RAM as a hangover preventer/cure

ShoulderChip

Hi lately I have been drinking some RAM when I come home from a night out if I need to get to work the next day and so far it has been fantastic

I really notice a huge different and have a very feint hangover at best the next day, I take it with lots of water as usual and no food after a night out.

Has anyone else any experience of this?

amazingemmet

Yeah this has been mentioned a few times alright.

AARRRGH

I've found regular binge drinking and bodybuilding/weight lifting don't really mix, so you should consider giving up the booze. I did, and it has made a major positive impact in my life. More motivation, loads of energy, feel great, clear skin, no more excess carbs due to all those pints, etc.

Ciaran500

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Hi lately I have been drinking some RAM when I come home from a night out if I need to get to work the next day and so far it has been fantastic

I really notice a huge different and have a very feint hangover at best the next day, I take it with lots of water as usual and no food after a night out.

Has anyone else any experience of this?

Large amounts of water on its own will have a great effect on preventing a hangover and the electrolytes in RAM will help even more.

ShoulderChip

Cheers thanks guys,

I think it will be brilliant for festivals and that sort of thing so,
Don't worry I don't drink/use it that much but its great to have when needed

jeff lebowski

What's this stuff? Never heard of it. Might have to invest in some.

ShoulderChip

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jeff lebowski

Cheers. How does it compare to Viper....are they similar enough?

ShoulderChip

someone else will have to answer that I don't know the ins and outs and haven't tried viper

corkcomp

+1 to the water, a pint or two of water after a heavy drinking session works wonders for preventing de-hydration next morning.

does anyone have any personal experience of RAM being good for hangovers?

knird evol

In addition to dehydration the vitamin destroying effects of booze gives to the hangover. So take a vitamin supplement with your ram. Go for a five mile jog while your at it.

I used to have a theory that the reason why you felt better the morning after drinking water before sleeping is that if you were capable of coming up with the idea and plan to drink a pint of water before sleep then you really didn't have all that much to drink in the first place. Whereas when you wake up fully dressed curled up underneath someones kitchen table and think "I have a bad hangover because I forgot to hydrate last night"

BobbyOLeary

knird evol wrote: »

In addition to dehydration the vitamin destroying effects of booze gives to the hangover. So take a vitamin supplement with your ram. Go for a five mile jog while your at it.

I used to have a theory that the reason why you felt better the morning after drinking water before sleeping is that if you were capable of coming up with the idea and plan to drink a pint of water before sleep then you really didn't have all that much to drink in the first place. Whereas when you wake up fully dressed curled up underneath someones kitchen table and think "I have a bad hangover because I forgot to hydrate last night"

I think that's it really. If you're of sound mind to mix up some RAM when you get in you should be okay. For me I've yet to find something that works every single time, some days I horse the water into me and wake up worse than mornings that I didn't. Only times I've been hangoverless have been when I'm still drunk.

itsallaboutheL

I found N.O Explode to be fcuking amazing, but it's probably a terrible idea!!

corkcomp

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I found N.O Explode to be fcuking amazing, but it's probably a terrible idea!!

can you still buy that in Ireland? does it work? actually, discussing hangover cures in a fitness forum looks very bad

Khannie

corkcomp wrote: »

can you still buy that in Ireland? does it work? actually, discussing hangover cures in a fitness forum looks very bad

Not really fitness related, except that it's a fitness related product. No major problems with it myself though (one of the other mods may).

corkcomp

Khannie wrote: »

Not really fitness related, except that it's a fitness related product. No major problems with it myself though (one of the other mods may).

LOL, it was more the alcohol than the supp I was thinking of

brianthebard

knird evol wrote: »

I used to have a theory that the reason why you felt better the morning after drinking water before sleeping is that if you were capable of coming up with the idea and plan to drink a pint of water before sleep then you really didn't have all that much to drink in the first place. Whereas when you wake up fully dressed curled up underneath someones kitchen table and think "I have a bad hangover because I forgot to hydrate last night"

I think this is the case. For my bday I had a number of drinks throughout the afternoon (slowed down in the evening) and despite having 3 pints of water and some 'soakage' over the few hours before bed I still had a hangover the next day. So I'd agree that its the amount you drink not the water you finish with.

corkcomp

the water makes a big difference to me, in terms of whether I can function properly the next morning.

metamorphosis

Water makes sweet **** all of a difference for me. Sometimes i go through 1.5ltr botle or 2ltr bottle at home after a night out and still fecking dying the next day

corkcomp

ULstudent wrote: »

Water makes sweet **** all of a difference for me. Sometimes i go through 1.5ltr botle or 2ltr bottle at home after a night out and still fecking dying the next day

your not drinking enough so:D:pac:

BraziliaNZ

yes the problem with skulling a load of water is that you wake up really early busting for a piss, and personally I can't go back asleep after that as I feel so bad and uncomfortable. Saline drip ftw.

Parsley

Depends on what you drink too! I find rum is very kind when it comes to hangovers, as is stout, but whiskey kills me the next day. Jaeger's grand enough!

mindaugelis

did anybody tried universal nutrition shock therapy?

WalterMitty

Water alone wont work. Add in some orange OR lemon OR lime juice and a pinch of salt to a pint of water or two and drink it. I find waiting till you are relatively sober, rehydrating and then having a small meal is the best course of action to avoid bad hangover.

corkcomp

True, something with salt will help also. I always feel hungry after a few pints but after a major piss up I can't look at food tbh! Like parsley mentioned your choice of poison counts too, and some combinations are not good! Wine and bulmers should never be mixed with anything!

rubadub

Hangovers are mainly down to 2 things, dehydration can cause severe headaches and feeling run down etc, the second is the crap in your alcohol AKA congeners

Congeners are toxic chemicals that are formed during fermentation, some liquors have more of them than others. These congeners are widely responsible for headaches. Simple digest: The clearer your drinks, the less problems you will have the next morning. (Correct only for brandy. Non filtered beer for example can be very good, specially because they contain a large vitamin b complex, which is important to protect you from brain pickling)

For instance:
* Vodka has less congeners than gin.
* Most scotch whiskey has about four times more congeners than gin.
* Brandy, rum and single-malt scotch have about six times more than gin.
* Bourbon drinkers ingest eight times the amount of congeners as do gin drinkers, and 30 times as much as vodka.
* Red wine has more congeners than white wine does.

What causes hangovers?

Dehydration
Alcohol is a diuretic, ie a drug that increases urination and flushes fluids from the body. Drinking coffee the next morning only increases this problem as coffee is also a diuretic.

Mild poisons in the drink
Complex organic molecules such as methanol and acetone are found in some drinks and are said to be responsible for hangovers rather than ethanol (alcohol). This view is by researcher Dr Ian Calder of the London based National Hospital for Neurosurgery.

Which Alcohol is worse?
Brandy is worst for hangovers, then in descending order are: red wine, rum, whisky, white wine, gin and vodka. The British Medical Journal did tests that showed drinking bourbon whiskey is twice as likely to cause a hangover than the same amount of vodka.

Too much alcohol
Too much alcohol depletes the body of necessary substances required to stay healthy, these include blood sugar, vitamins and minerals.

Wine - a bad harvest
If you are drinking wine that comes from a country where a small change in the climate can make a big difference to the quality of wine, eg France, Germany, New Zealand, then in a bad season the wine contains many more substances that cause hangovers.

Wine - drinking it too young
Almost all red wines and chardonnay are matured in oak barrels so that they will keep and improve. If you drink this wine younger than three years there will be a higher level of nasties that can cause hangovers. If left to mature these nasties change to neutral substances and don't cause hangovers. As a rule of thumb wine stored in oak barrels for six months should be acceptable to drink within the first year. If the wine is stored for twelve months or more in oak barrels it should then be left for at least four years. Some winemakers have been known to add oak chips directly into the wine to enhance flavors, especially in a bad season, and this can take years to become neutral.

Parsley wrote: »

Depends on what you drink too! I find rum is very kind when it comes to hangovers

Rum is well known for this amongst distillers. I designed my own still and used to distil my own rum, a recognised test/verification that your still is running correctly is the lack of hangover! Rum is made from a sugar based brew which contains only bare traces of methanol when brewed. Cider is probably the worst for methanol content. Come vodkas are very pure e.g. skyy vodka, while some of the "scottish vodkas" or cheap irish ones are probably really the waste left over from whiskey distilling, so they can be even more loaded with congeners than the whiskey itself. In marketing ads they brag about carbon filtering, which is really admitting they made a ballls of the distillation and have to clean it up.

http://homedistiller.org/bad.htm

How to Avoid Hangovers

Try this, next time you have a "session".

For EVERY 50 ml of spirit at 40% alc/vol or equivalent, you drink (regardless of amount of ice, water or whatever added), drink 200 ml of water before AND another 200 ml after. Also refrain from overeating eight hours before, during, and eight hours after. Radical Stuff?? Well you may enjoy a "wee dram" instead of pain and suffering next day.

Now the next bit is as important as the water, as not only do they work in conjunction with each other, they also work independently. Take copius quantities of the Vitamin B Group, before, during and after the session. Why I hear you cry???

1. Alcohol depletes vitamin B group
2. B group is a major metaboliser of carbohydrates, protein and fats.
3. Lack of B group, glocose to the brain.
4. B group helps maintain fluid levels

Brewers yeast has B vitamins so drinking bottle conditioned beers (i.e. cloudy yeasty beers) might help. I do not agree with the noneating, I would include a upset stomach in my idea of a hangover, I find eating foods like beans or peas at night will give your stomach something to digest, instead of the stomach acid just eating your stomach lining. Also fatty foods seem to neutralise the acid & bile. Keep a 2L of water by the bed so if you are so bad you forget to drink you can wake up and not have to move far to get it, you can skull it and go back to sleep.

corkcomp

that last post should be stickied:D

edit: I just saw the bit about the "still" - legend:) Ive only seen a still once before, in the garage of an 80 something year old woman who looks like butter wouldnt melt:pac: used for potcheen :eek:

thirdmantackle

we should all move to belgium. drink as much as you want, with minimal headaches the next day. the beer is just that good

on another note, best place to buy RAM? cheapest?

corkcomp

thirdmantackle wrote: »

we should all move to belgium. drink as much as you want, with minimal headaches the next day. the beer is just that good

on another note, best place to buy RAM? cheapest?

you might be onto something there:D 10 pints in a busy city pub = very little hangover the next day where as 3 or 4 pints in a quiet pub where the barrel hasnt been changed in a week and tastes crap = major sore head the next day:(

BraziliaNZ

thirdmantackle wrote: »

we should all move to belgium. drink as much as you want, with minimal headaches the next day. the beer is just that good

on another note, best place to buy RAM? cheapest?

nonsense. I've heard this rubbish about Bavarian beers etc, drank myself silly many times down there, hangovers just as bad as ever. For every high there is a low.

discus

I'm telling yous lads. Go down to the Pharmacy. Ask for a sachet of Diaoralyte. Buy it, and leave it in the kitchen when ya go out. When ya come home, throw it into a glass of water, mix and drink. It's the *ahem* only solution...