New foxing rifle

declan1980

i'm thinking of buying a tikka t3 varmint in .223 to use as a dedicated fox rifle. i was wondering could any body tell me what would be a good scope to use with this rifle

foxshooter243

declan1980 wrote: »

i'm thinking of buying a tikka t3 varmint in .223 to use as a dedicated fox rifle. i was wondering could any body tell me what would be a good scope to use with this rifle

what price range are you looking at?, this will help lads give you an answer

Cass

Bushnell or Burris are good scopes with a max price range (for your needs) of about €650 - €700. There are more expensive models of these scopes but they usually come with the higher magnification models which for hunting wouldn't be necessary.

You then have the high cost scopes of Nightforce and S&B, etc. All top quality scopes but personally a bit too much money to be putting on a foxing rifle. You are looking at prices in excess of €1300+.

There is always the second hand route. A friend recently picked up Zeiss, that new cost just over €1000, for the tidy sum of €400. Deals are there to be gotten.

Windigo

Ive got a nikon buckmaster 6-18 x 40 on my .223. Im very happy with it. Its clear has nice magnification and holds zero and its a lot cheaper than nightforce s&b or zeiss. All of which are great, but overkill for fox.

It would be similar to the bushnell 3200 in my opinion, but not as good as the more expensive options above. It will do the same job though for shooting fox.

You get what you pay for with scopes but after a certain point there are diminishing returns for the amount you spend. For shooting fox I think nikon are good value for money. Bushnell and burris are also good.

Loads of good deals on them on ebay. Just watch out for crap copys from china.

declan1980

i was looking at a swift 4-12x50 illuminated reticle for 360euro, but i'm wondering if this is good value. i'd probably spend around 400euro max.
sean in thurles quoted around 1700 euro for the whole package of gun, scope, scope rings, and suppressor.
i'd be happy to spend this if i thought it was a good deal, because i know i'm gonna get a lot of use out of it

Tackleberrywho

declan1980 wrote: »

i'm thinking of buying a tikka t3 varmint in .223 to use as a dedicated fox rifle. i was wondering could any body tell me what would be a good scope to use with this rifle

Foxes are semi nocturnal.
So light gathering ability is required
50mm objective lens min I use a 56mm. And an illum reticle.Illuminated ret makes seeing the ret in relation to the target easier
However a heavy reticle will also work. Foxes rarely stay put for long so you might need a longer shot 16mag higher mag becomes blurred.

However summer is almost upon us, Then a 6-24 might be the best choice.
A lot of second hand scopes on the market these days. I was offered Nikon Schmitt and bender and Zeiss recently for ~800 or less

Cass

declan1980 wrote: »

.........sean in thurles quoted around 1700 euro for the whole package of gun, scope, scope rings, and suppressor.
.........

Thats a good enough deal. You'd be saving around €200 on the package if its a T8 supressor or €250 if its a Jet-Z. Was looking at a very similar package myself a month or so ago.

declan1980

i think he was saying about 270euro for a night star(?) suppressor, not sure if i have the right brand name but its stainless steel like the rifle, so no worries about rust. i'm not sure when i'd be buying the rifle, maybe around august, have to see how the funds work out, but i'll definitely be getting it. i'm sick of lamping with the hmr, it just doesn't cut it for that job

clivej

I paid €275 for my ASE Northstar mod in 30 cal and 5/8" thread.

Tackleberrywho

clivej wrote: »

I paid €275 for my ASE Northstar mod in 30 cal and 5/8" thread.

Smallest supressor on the market SS and it's a few mil longer than my nokia phone around 4/5 inches
100-125mm approx
Oh Hornady 55grn Moly are a savage accurate round and drop a fox on the spot

declan1980

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Oh Hornady 55grn Moly are a savage accurate round and drop a fox on the spot

i'll have to give them a shot (pardon the pun) when i get the gun
forgive my ignorance but what does Moly mean, i see that the bullet is a different colour but what is the benefit

bigdogfox

swift 6-24x50 can be bought new for €300 in or around and are great in low light...

foxshooter243

This scope warrants serious consideration;

http://www.snipercentral.com/ior1056.htm

I have a swarovski and a nightforce also and for the money this is quite a buy-cost me 555 sterling-the glass is fantastic;)

declan1980

cool scope but i'd go for the variable power one myself. a fixed 10 power just wouldn't suit me

Tackleberrywho

declan1980 wrote: »

i'll have to give them a shot (pardon the pun) when i get the gun
forgive my ignorance but what does Moly mean, i see that the bullet is a different colour but what is the benefit

Moly Questions & Answers

Molybdenum Disulfide (Moly Ultra-Coat)
Molybdenum disulfide or "Moly", as it is commonly called, is a lubricant used in extreme pressure conditions due to its high degree of lubricity and high melting point. Moly has been found to reduce bore fouling when applied to bullet surfaces. It will decrease bore cleaning effort and time. Published reports have shown an increase in Ballistic Coefficient, longer barrel life, and an increase in accuracy.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the above statement!
Several people I know had problems with copper fouling on .223 and .220swift rounds

Cass

I always keep a tub of this in my box. Useful for comps and makes cleaning that bit easier.

yog1

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Moly Questions & Answers

Molybdenum Disulfide (Moly Ultra-Coat)
Molybdenum disulfide or "Moly", as it is commonly called, is a lubricant used in extreme pressure conditions due to its high degree of lubricity and high melting point. Moly has been found to reduce bore fouling when applied to bullet surfaces. It will decrease bore cleaning effort and time. Published reports have shown an increase in Ballistic Coefficient, longer barrel life, and an increase in accuracy.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the above statement!
Several people I know had problems with copper fouling on .223 and .220swift rounds

more questions:D,,
what is the recomended method of applying molly (no dirty jokes:p)
and how much molly is recomended (again no jokes)

Cass

yog1 wrote: »

more questions:D,,
what is the recomended method of applying molly (no dirty jokes:p)
and how much molly is recomended (again no jokes)

The tub of Moly paste i have is easy enough applied but a bit time consuming.

First and formost, make sure the barrel is spotless clean. If necessary use a bore gel/solvent to remove all copper deposits. Clean through with gun oil after the cleaning and run patches through until they are clean and dry.

You open the tub and put a patch into it to soak. Once the patch is sufficently soaked you put it on the jag of your cleaning rod and run it through the bore/barrel. Taking the same patch run it back through the bore up to 25 times. Get another patch and repeat the process. 2 or 3 times is enough, i usually do it 3 times. This ensures that all areas, lands, grooves are evenly and well coated with the moly. You then get a clean dry patch and run it through the bore. This wipes up excess without removing any of the moly. The rifle can now be shot.

I usually do this the evening/night before i intend to shoot. As the barrel is now coated mzzle velocity may be slightly increased so your current scope adjustents may be out, but only by a few clicks depending on the distance you intend to shoot.