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Is it ok to strike anymore?

  • 20-03-2010 3:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering with all the strikes/work to rule action thats going on.
    Taxi drivers, Passport workers and even across in the Uk with BA.

    Seen a clip on Sky News where a man was hoping to be yatching around
    Thailand but the BA strike might effect this, the News didn't go in for
    how the strike was effecting the workers who feel backed into a corner
    and taking theses measures.

    Is our media slanted towards the goverments
    and employers and the strikers now being shown in a bad light.
    Does the man in the street ever feel a strike is now warranted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    I think people are just pissed at the public servents acting out.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I think people are just pissed at the public servents acting out.
    And the taxi drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    That 'strike' where a load of civil servants went shopping in Newry is still fresh in a lot of people's minds I'd say, so striking is not a very popular action at the moment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Strikes are passé. Dirty protests are where it's at nowadays.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It´s the human element of it. Joe Public must always be seen as the good guy, no matter what.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    phasers wrote: »
    That 'strike' where a load of civil servants went shopping in Newry is still fresh in a lot of people's minds I'd say, so striking is not a very popular action at the moment

    Just because you and the agenda driven media are prepared to state this ad nauseum doesn't make it true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    With modern labour laws, I would say there is very little need for strikes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Just because you and the agenda driven media are prepared to state this ad nauseum doesn't make it true.

    +1

    Will you ever stop going on endlessly about that strike, phasers? The dude's like a broken record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    I've no problem with people striking for things like poor working conditions, safety, discrimination, and things like that. But I do have a problem with people striking because they think they should be immune from this recession. The idiots who think they deserve to strike because they got a pay cut when all they're doing is causing their employer to suffer from even worse financial difficulties, and therefore will lead them to have to make even bigger cuts in the future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    phasers wrote: »
    That 'strike' where a load of civil servants went shopping in Newry is still fresh in a lot of people's minds I'd say, so striking is not a very popular action at the moment


    Don't forget the teachers in coppers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    +1

    Will you ever stop going on endlessly about that strike, phasers? The dude's like a broken record.
    Never! I was stuck in traffic for over 4 hours because of those bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Yes it is ok to strike. The problem with them is that there is no cohesion or support and each group strikes individually while other groups complain about them. When a group strikes it should be supported by every other group that feel mistreated* and think they will have to strike in future. Maybe then the government will take notice.

    *except taxi drivers, pr*cks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Muckie wrote: »
    Just wondering with all the strikes/work to rule action thats going on.
    Taxi drivers, Passport workers and even across in the Uk with BA.

    Seen a clip on Sky News where a man was hoping to be yatching around
    Thailand but the BA strike might effect this, the News didn't go in for
    how the strike was effecting the workers who feel backed into a corner
    and taking theses measures.

    Is our media slanted towards the goverments
    and employers and the strikers now being shown in a bad light.
    Does the man in the street ever feel a strike is now warranted.

    Well you were watching Sky News... Best thing you could ever do is never watch the news and read newspapers... sensationlist bullshítters, the lot of them. The news doesn't matter anymore, ratings do, ratings control what is being viewed and how it is viewed. They can report on what they want and alter the perception of said party.

    People should be able to strike, but it depends on what the strikes are about. Some civil servants are on strike because they were told they need to make cutbacks, take pay cuts etc etc while their managers take massive pay rises and bonuses. How the fcuk is that fair? Of course they should strike for that. Now if the managers took cuts also then that would be fair game, but those thick gobshítes thought it would be ok to take that massive bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    phasers wrote: »
    Never! I was stuck in traffic for over 4 hours because of those bastards!

    Were you going anywhere nice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    strikes are fine its the unions that are the problem

    they cant see past their own noses and if they had any sense they would advise their workers to put up with a year or two of hardship so that the company/country can be saved and they can keep their jobs. then when thigs recover in a year or two the unions can start trying to improve the conditions for their members and spend other peoples money again

    striking in this job climate is unpopular because there are hundreds of thousands of people who would take your job in a heartbeat and you should be thankfull to have one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    Of course they should strike for that. Now if the managers took cuts also then that would be fair game, but those thick gobshítes thought it would be ok to take that massive bonus.

    link please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    phasers wrote: »
    Never! I was stuck in traffic for over 4 hours because of those bastards!
    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Were you going anywhere nice?

    Probably shopping in Newry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    If you bowl ,striking is ok!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    phasers wrote: »
    That 'strike' where a load of civil servants went shopping in Newry is still fresh in a lot of people's minds I'd say, so striking is not a very popular action at the moment
    PeakOutput wrote: »
    strikes are fine its the unions that are the problem

    they cant see past their own noses and if they had any sense they would advise their workers to put up with a year or two of hardship so that the company/country can be saved and they can keep their jobs. then when thigs recover in a year or two the unions can start trying to improve the conditions for their members and spend other peoples money again

    striking in this job climate is unpopular because there are hundreds of thousands of people who would take your job in a heartbeat and you should be thankfull to have one


    Summed it up in one really! spot on post


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    dresden8 wrote: »
    Probably shopping in Newry.

    Could have been rushing a heart to a transplant patient, or "deceased" as he's now called.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Were you going anywhere nice?
    I was rushing my pet snake whiskers to her knee surgery.

    ... she didn't make it ;-;


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    link please

    Have you been living under a rock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    phasers wrote: »
    I was rushing my pet snake whiskers to her knee surgery.

    ... she didn't make it ;-;

    They killed whiskers, the bastards!


    I think that you're perfectly within your rights to bring this traumatic incident to the forefront of any discussion on Boards, even if it's completely off topic. RIP Whiskers.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    phasers wrote: »
    I was rushing my pet snake whiskers to her knee surgery.

    ... she didn't make it ;-;

    Moments silence for whiskers...such a little trooper:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    I call boards moderator sympathy strike on behalf of Whiskers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    the green isle foods strikers in naas should be ashamed of themselfs, they had 700 porn images in work which is a disgrace and i agree they should have being sacked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    james finn wrote: »
    the green isle foods strikers in naas should be ashamed of themselfs, they had 700 porn images in work which is a disgrace and i agree they should have being sacked

    Unofficial strike = sack the lot of them imo. Its probably just an excuse to spend more time on redtube at home now that they have no porn in work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    Grimes wrote: »
    Unofficial strike = sack the lot of them imo. Its probably just an excuse to spend more time on redtube at home now that they have no porn in work.

    these scumbags were outside green isle with their kids shouting shame on green isle foods, i think its sick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Lemegeton


    as a rule i take a dim view of people striking in a recession. everyone is suffering these days. the public sector action annoys me. even with their cuts they still have it much much better than workers in the private sector.
    i hate the taxi strikes but they do have a point with the amount of licenses that are granted. even at xmas time the ranks were still full


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    Have you been living under a rock?

    so have you a link or not?

    as far as i remember the pay cuts in the public service were to all grades is this wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    so have you a link or not?

    as far as i remember the pay cuts in the public service were to all grades is this wrong?

    Oh lol... Seriously, do your own research, I won't be doing it for you ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    Oh lol... Seriously, do your own research, I won't be doing it for you ;)

    so your not going to provide any back up to what you said? so its really not worth the screen its displayed on is it? im not being smart i am genuinely interested in what managers in the public service have gotten huge pay rises and bonuses because its a disgrace if it happened

    but i dont believe it happened and a quick google dosnt show any such scandal either so what exactly are you spouting on about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    so your not going to provide any back up to what you said? so its really not worth the screen its displayed on is it? im not being smart i am genuinely interested in what managers in the public service have gotten huge pay rises and bonuses because its a disgrace if it happened

    but i dont believe it happened and a quick google dosnt show any such scandal either so what exactly are you spouting on about?

    You definately haven't been around much in the past year or so, have you? You dismiss it because you haven't heard of it? Not everything comes from the internetz ;)

    I'll give you a clue... Fas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    You definately haven't been around much in the past year or so, have you? You dismiss it because you haven't heard of it? Not everything comes from the internetz ;)

    I'll give you a clue... Fas.

    so they are striking over a pay scandal that was effectively concluded in september?

    were are the press releases and statements from the public sector unions saying that this is what the problem is? how many fas (or for that manner any public service managers) have gotten a pay rise or a bonus since the last budget?

    edit; by the way i ask because anything that happened before the budget is irrelevant


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    so they are striking over a pay scandal that was effectively concluded in september?

    were are the press releases and statements from the public sector unions saying that this is what the problem is? how many fas (or for that manner any public service managers) have gotten a pay rise or a bonus since the last budget?

    edit; by the way i ask because anything that happened before the budget is irrelevant

    You might want to check out the central bank too ;) Some shít going on there with managers preaching one thing and doing another, in other words, making serious cuts and taking big pay rises at the same time. Go google it, you won't find a link on it.

    Not everyone is going to hear about that either... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    strikes are fine its the unions that are the problem

    they cant see past their own noses and if they had any sense they would advise their workers to put up with a year or two of hardship so that the company/country can be saved and they can keep their jobs. then when thigs recover in a year or two the unions can start trying to improve the conditions for their members and spend other peoples money again

    striking in this job climate is unpopular because there are hundreds of thousands of people who would take your job in a heartbeat and you should be thankfull to have one

    Yes i somewhat agree with this. Personally I would be on the side of the public sector workers but I think their unions do a terrible job of representing them (at least....I think the union brass have motives that are not always in the interests of their members). I also think the pre-emptive strike in december was wrong and I profoundly disagree with any go slow.

    Take health care. I don't think they should be out striking about money. But if they feel patients suffer due to cutbacks then I think thats a legitimate strike reason - but the unions never strike on that basis. Also I think there is merit in teachers striking say because special needs teachers and teachers aids were axed - both teachers and students suffer from that. I don't think there is merit in them striking on account of the public sector paycut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    You might want to check out the central bank too ;) Some shít going on there with managers preaching one thing and doing another, in other words, making serious cuts and taking big pay rises at the same time. Go google it, you won't find a link on it.

    Not everyone is going to hear about that either... ;)

    so there are no press releases or statements from the unions saying this is the reason for the strike then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    so there are no press releases or statements from the unions saying this is the reason for the strike then?

    Beats me, I didn't get my information from some third party.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Pete4779


    I think people are just pissed at the public servents acting out.

    They are only acting out because the bankers started acting out first, at that emegrency meeting demanding that our leader use the country to bailout the banker's bad debts.

    That's you, the useless clerk at the front of the bank.

    That's you, the accountant for the bank.

    That's you the MBA guy hired to audit the bank.

    That's all you ****ers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Pete4779 wrote: »
    That's you, the useless clerk at the front of the bank.

    You might want to explain this part ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    Beats me, I didn't get my information from some third party.

    oh well in that case ill take your word for it :rolleyes:

    or i might actually take the unions word for their reasons for the strike(that wouldnt be a third party now that would be unions) and judge them on those and those my friend are BULL****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    Summed it up in one really! spot on post

    it was actually two posts. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    it was actually two posts. ;)

    when i bought my home the banker forced me to sign the forms with a gun to my head, this is why i hate bankers, i had no part to play in buying my home and im not responsible at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭dermot_sheehan


    People are pissed with strikes, as strikes are inherently selfish, it's saying to the rest of society that the we the workers will not do what we've agreed and are paid to do but instead hold the rest of society to ransom.

    It especially annoys people when the strikers are in a sector which is a monopoly (no one has a choice to not use the government), whose employer raises money to pay these workers by taxation of the private sector's diminishing earnings.

    I heard recently that some public sector workers themselves are annoyed with the work to rule and are leaving their union, the reason? Because of the work to rule their fellow civil servants are not processing requests for holidays or flexitime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    james finn wrote: »
    when i bought my home the banker forced me to sign the forms with a gun to my head, this is why i hate bankers, i had no part to play in buying my home and im not responsible at all

    um, i'm sure that made sense in your head...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I love laughing at taxi drivers on strike, complaining about how little work they having but wilfully choosing not to work for a while at the same time


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I wonder what would hhappen if the unemployed went on strike and refused to collect thier dole money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    Degsy wrote: »
    I wonder what would hhappen if the unemployed went on strike and refused to collect thier dole money.

    lol the lads who were unemployed since they left school wouldnt get out of bed to strike, we be in trouble if they could.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    james finn wrote: »
    lol the lads who were unemployed since they left school wouldnt get out of bed to strike, we be in trouble if they could.


    OR we'd be better off if they did!


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