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Peugeot 501 frame from 1988
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16-03-2010 10:46pm#1This is my original 'good' bike, bought in 1988 in the bike shop in Maynooth.
It was originally a Peugeot Triathalon model, but was (framewise) identical to all the other Peugeot 501 Steel frames in the market. The spec on the bike was fairly average for a sports bike back in the late 80's - Weinman brakes, Stronglight chainset, sachs gears.
I had slowly but surely upgraded the bits to Shimano 600 Front mech, suntour Sprint rear mech, MKS clipless pedals and even by early 90's Shimano 105 aero brakes and calipers!
A good buddy had the Shimano 105 equipped bike, and that was a lot nicer than mine:o
It had sat in the shed at home for many a year, only being taken out now and then for a bit of general maintenance and what not.
About 6 or 7 years ago, I had it resprayed and gave it to the aul man, who used it once!
So a few months ago, someone popped up on the FS section, looking for an old steel frame bike, so pm sent - offering the bike for a song, but no reply
so then I ahd the idea, why not do it up again, and get the old bike back on the road myself!
(Mrs. Gman2k was not too happy hearing about bike no 7 - but I explained that it was actually my own old bike and sentimentality and what not.)
So, as I always admired the Carrera bikes from mid to late eighties for some reason (thanks Stephen Roche), I decided to get it resprayed in Carrera colours of the time.
Whilst peugeot did actually have bikes in the Carrera colours of the time and were raced professionally, they were probably 531 pro, or SLX or some other exotica of the era:)
So, after strypit paint stripping, sanding, Jenolite rust killing and priming myself, I handed it over to a professional sprayer and I got it back today
I'm gonna build it up over the next few weeks, but be warned it won't be a NOS build, as I've decided to go relatively modern. (I'm on a budget here folks)
There will be a black Rolls saddle, but it's now going to be an 8 speed, with Shimano rear mech and down tube shifters. The almost original 105 brakes are going back on, as will the Shimano 600 front mech, Campag Mirage chainset (bargain £20 from Graham Weigh cycles) and new set of Wheels from CRC will just about complete the mix!17
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In one way its good as it preserves some really quality steel frames that would otherwise end up in a skip and if and when the fixie fashion wanes they may be built up with new road components. Those 753 frames mated to quality new components would make seriously nice road bikes. Light too. I'd reckon 16 lbs if you went mad on the components. I'm estimating that on the basis of a guy I knew in the 80's with a 753 frame with so so components of the time that was 17 and a bit lbs(we were all :eek: at the time), so it may actually go lighter again with new stuff.
But yea it drives the price up. Auction sites have done that across the board in lots of areas of collection and interest. Where once bargains could be had, now you have to look a lot harder.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 59045
Ive seen a fair few for around the 100-200 mark in the last year. The 753 bit isnt as recognisable to many of the younger types I suspect. Columbus tubing much more known, especially in the US, where the italian steel stuff is highly prized. In my memory, columbus stuff was v rare in ireland in the mid 80's. Mostly reynolds stuff. The italian stuff was mad money and the only marque I ever saw for sale here was Rossin in hardings on the quays. It was near double the cost of the reynolds based stuff.yeah but a 753 going for 92 squid is a rare beast!
753 was well known for being a bit delicate though. Strong, but dont get a dent in it kinda thing. Wouldnt want to be a heavy rider either. Have an old typed reynolds info sheet on the various grades and 753 was described for race use by a lighter rider. Interestingly they advise seat stays mounted to the side of the lugs not shot in ones for better service life. The lightest of all was 753T for trialling. But you would want to be kate moss wearing helium knickers on a smoooooth road for that
They seem to come along a fair bit. They had a really bad rep for failing though. the glue(yep glue) at the lugs would let go and game over. The bottom bracket being a common place for failure. I seem to recall they werent the stiffest in the world either. Very floppy. Like a lot of the early TI stuff. The really early aluminium stuff from Vitus etc was even worse. Didnt stop Sean Kelly though...I know, i have spent many an hours trawling through ebay for such a deal,
I have come across this unlikely find though. Ti raleigh dyna tech, is it my ignorance showing or does that seem unlikelyRejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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A lot of the better riders I knew back in the day were on the Columbus drug, SL and SLX in particular.
I remember Philip Casssidy's Tomassini, and a good few Paganinis - one in particular was a pink SL
. There was also a lot of Gazelles around them days and Batavus was known also.
The Raparee frame builder guy used to stick to Reynolds IIRC, and and remember a lovely 531c in particular he made for a guy in Donadea I used to ride with.
I only knew one guy (sadly he died a few years ago) on a Vitus, and he kept that purely for race days.
There was also a Peugeot aluminium frame that was in the shops, but you could completely dissamble the frame, as it was some allen key type construction at the lugs, they didi not last long in Ireland due to the poor roads :rolleyes:
You can be guaranteed that a lot of the above exotica is still lying at the back of sheds somewhere......0 -
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You musta hung around with a better class of characterA lot of the better riders I knew back in the day were on the Columbus drug, SL and SLX in particular.. Or after my time. Early mid 80's the columbus stuff was something you would look twice at.
and they were like rubber too. I sat on one for about half a mile and couldnt believe the flex. Apparently the walls were too thin and the tube size was pretty much the same as steel. hence blancmange. Then they had the first carbon frames. did the same thing. same diameter as steel. Remember reading about lots of sudden failures. Maybe thats were the notion of carbon being a bad plan took root?There was also a Peugeot aluminium frame that was in the shops, but you could completely dissamble the frame, as it was some allen key type construction at the lugs, they didi not last long in Ireland due to the poor roads :rolleyes:
+100 You may need to sit down.... I know of a guy who cleared out his shed and broke up and threw in a skip, a raleigh road ace(shimano AX aerodynamic yoke) and a raleigh team 753 bike, full campagnolo super record groupset(the latter was pretty mint I gather)*. :eek::eek::eek: They belonged to his brother who had long gone off the cycling, figured they were "just old bikes" and off they went. He was sickened when I typed vintage campagnolo into ebay.You can be guaranteed that a lot of the above exotica is still lying at the back of sheds somewhere......
* they were sooooo stable downhill.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Is 501 a good frame then? I dont really have a clue about them, I ask because I got one of these for cheap the other day:
And Im fixing it up, it has the same badge as the one in this pic:
Is it some kind of timeless good design like certain cars or was it just good for the eighties and poor by todays standards? Im guessing they were made by the same company and bought by different bike manufacturers?0 -
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