Another Hill Climb? Cruagh - March 30th

blorg

Lumen wrote: »

Perhaps it's worth going a bit harder on the first half, where you're not fighting the wind, then just hanging on into the wind as it flattens out. Average power would be lower, but overall time probably better.

Even disregarding the wind you generally get a better time from pushing it on steeper inclines as there is less air resistance (which increases as the square of velocity.) This would apply even on a completely still day. The problem here as you recognise is that the steep bit is right at the start.

levitronix

Originally Posted by DirkVoodoo
I'm not sure was it Tom who said it, but you are definitely the cycling equivalent of Ivan Drago.

Lumen wrote: »

Yeah, apart from the doping!

Drago "He's not human. He's like a piece of iron. "

Lumen

19:27 @ 281W for me this morning with a bit of a tailwind.

Lap 1: 5:04, 294W, HR 159bpm (170bpm for 95% of it).
Lap 2: 5:09, 279W, HR 172bpm
Lap 3: 5:00, 274W, HR 174bpm
Lap 4: 4:14, 277W, HR 179bpm

Graph.

Went a bit harder early on then faded, but overall felt better paced than last time - putting the power down on the steeper early sections where gains are more proportional.

It took 52s (4%) less time but 15kJ (4%) less effort than my last attempt, which shows the effect of the wind (head last time, tail this time) and to a lesser degree the pacing strategy.

I think this proves that times are definitely not comparable between days due to conditions.

For Tuesday we could really use a marshall at the viewing point to allow people to safely take a wide line. I had to brake for that corner and it was early so not much traffic. If we don't have a volunteer I don't mind going up a few minutes before then heading back down to marshall.

Beasty

Lumen wrote: »

For Tuesday we could really use a marshall at the viewing point to allow people to safely take a wide line. I had to brake for that corner and it was early so not much traffic. If we don't have a volunteer I don't mind going up a few minutes before then heading back down to marshall.

I'm still on for timing or marshalling - if we still have 2 others it should be fine

DirkVoodoo

Beasty wrote: »

I'm still on for timing or marshalling - if we still have 2 others it should be fine

I might have to do this instead, I seem to have developed a cold after last night and don't think I would have the energy to try and match Lumen.

I knew I shouldn't have posted a time

ROK ON

Forecast for Tues evening is very poor. Freezing and rain.
Depending on he weather I may or may not turn up. Someone else can have the lanterne rouge.

Lumen

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I might have to do this instead, I seem to have developed a cold after last night and don't think I would have the energy to try and match Lumen.

I knew I shouldn't have posted a time

Ah, come on now. You can't back out now. If it makes a difference I'll even go full retard.

Beasty

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I might have to do this instead, I seem to have developed a cold after last night and don't think I would have the energy to try and match Lumen.

I knew I shouldn't have posted a time

Any wimping out should require medical evidence - I'll bring my X-rays, Dirk what do you have? A snotty tissue?

Nietzschean

Ahhh peer pressure, wonderful stuff! don't forget ROK_ON there and his it might be a bit wet!

levitronix

Just checked the weather forcast for tuesday and it says snow is due !!

Snow and a snotty nose ! im still in

DirkVoodoo

Beasty wrote: »

Any wimping out should require medical evidence - I'll bring my X-rays, Dirk what do you have? A snotty tissue?

Two snotty tissues and my Zoolander "black lung" impression. Sorted.

Beasty

A bit of rain to cool you down, and a nice northerly tailwind to push you along - what more could you ask for:)

Lumen

I'm out, tonsillitis. Probably two weeks off the bike (last time I ignored medical advice on this I was almost hospitalised, so HTFU won't cut it). Feck.

Beasty

Lumen wrote: »

I'm out, tonsillitis. Probably two weeks off the bike (last time I ignored medical advice on this I was almost hospitalised, so HTFU won't cut it). Feck.

Sorry to hear that Lumen - hopefully you will get over it quickly

Beasty

Where are we up to on timekeepers/marshal on this. Based on Lumen's post yesterday, we ideally need 2 timekeepers and 1 marshal. I am happy to take one of these roles on. There were a couple of others who put their hands up earlier in the thread - are you still available? If not do some of the other "sickies" want to get involved?

Caroline_ie

if I turn up I will help marshalling - Took a fall last friday and my bike requires some work so I might be on the old bike with standard double which might not be great for a hill TT knowing I am such a loser when it comes to climbing in general. If it rains however I might just go to yoga class ...

Idleater

As odd as it sounds, if that "snow" materialises, I'm not driving the bike up the mountains. I'll volunteer to time-keep marshal if that is any use still though (bearing the obvious statement above).

Beasty

nereid wrote: »

As odd as it sounds, if that "snow" materialises, I'm not driving the bike up the mountains. I'll volunteer to time-keep marshal if that is any use still though (bearing the obvious statement above).

Thanks

I suspect that if it's that bad we will have to postpone it. However I have a 4x4 anyway, so if a bike can get up, hopefully I can!

Idleater

Beasty wrote: »

I suspect that if it's that bad we will have to postpone it. However I have a 4x4 anyway, so if a bike can get up, hopefully I can!

Indeed and sure worst case, all those energetic cyclists can help push you out of the ditch

Raam

I'm out. Good luck to those taking part. Remember to post results up immediately, and we only want to hear from the winner. No one wants to read paragraphs about people who tried but ultimately failed.

Beasty

Raam wrote: »

I'm out. Good luck to those taking part. Remember to post results up immediately, and we only want to hear from the winner. No one wants to read paragraphs about people who tried but ultimately failed.

I'll post Ryan's victory speech from the finishing line:)

petethedrummer

Also out, on antibiotics.

zzzzzzzz

Is there anyone still doing this?

maybe we should re-schedule

blorg

I am recovering from a cold so I'm out.

met.ie wrote:

Tomorrow Tuesday will be bitterly cold and mostly overcast again. Rain will be heavy and quite continuous across Ulster and Leinster, with a risk of snow falls inland - and especially over high ground. ... Highest temperatures 1 to 5 degrees.

3 degrees, heavy rain and 42km/h wind indicated for around Dublin. With the windchill -4C. Colder up the hills. Maybe rescheduling would be a good idea.

niceonetom

I'd still do it tomorrow if a quorum agrees, but, for the sake of a decent turnout I think we should reschedule. Not much point in doing it if there's only a couple of riders.

Do we want to just wait a few days for the weather to clear a bit? Or give it a bit longer to let the sickies heal?

Greyspoke

It'd suit me to leave it a week (or so) - I ventured into the hills for the first time this year on Saturday and rode the proposed tt route - it nearly killed me despite telling myself not to go too hard. I need more training! (lots!)

levitronix

Hope weather doesnt hit to bad, but if does why not push it till thursday that way its a good warm up for the league starting on the following thursday, also good chance to get to know faces before the club league starts

ryan_sherlock

I was away for the weekend so not been online.

Weather looks, ehh, not so nice. High winds, cold temperatures and snow - not usually what I want when I do a maximal effort. I have a person to do time keeping (at the top - he can drive up clothes etc... too) but I don't know if it should go ahead. Maybe put back a week or two? What do people think - I have seen that lots are already opting out.

I race and train in almost any conditions - and I'll still be training outside tomorrow but just with conditions like that, and a bunch of people hanging around before and after - I think it is best to delay a week or two...

Caroline_ie

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

I think it is best to delay a week or two...

Here

Greyspoke

RTE traffic news just reported 3 inches of snow in the Glencree area! 700c snow chains anyone?!

ROK ON

I am presuming that given that this has not been officiall cancelled that it is still going ahead.
If anyone wants to join me heading out from Dundrum just to warm up the I will probably head up Barnaculla and down Pinefirest Road.

Obviously if no one shows I win by defaultm anyway if I do win I will post it. If I do t I won't offend certain people by posting and will stay schtum.

Chips Lovell

Dude, right now it's lashing snow. I'm leaving my bike at home today.

ROK ON

el tonto wrote: »

Dude, right now it's lashing snow. I'm leaving my bike at home today.

I cycled in 90mins ago.
Wasn't that bad.
Throw on a pair of leggings, gloves, hat and a base layer and you'll be grand.
With RAAM and Blorg out this is my chance at glory. I wouldn't miss it for all the tea in China.

Beasty

ROK ON wrote: »

I am presuming that given that this has not been officiall cancelled that it is still going ahead.


Obviously if no one shows I win by defaultm anyway if I do win I will post it.

you didn't vote to keep it today, and you will not have an "official" timekeeper, as I'll now be watching the match.

mfdc

ROK ON wrote: »

I cycled in 90mins ago.
Wasn't that bad.
Throw on a pair of leggings, gloves, hat and a base layer and you'll be grand.
With RAAM and Blorg out this is my chance at glory. I wouldn't miss it for all the tea in China.

We were meant to head down to 3 rock for a few ascents this morning before work, as we usually do on a Tuesday. Got just past Dundrum and had to turn back - couldn't feel my feet or fingers, even with full winter gear, and was having difficulty seeing in the blizzard (seriously). 90 mins later and my hands are still cold.

This was in the city center. It's meant to get worse later on. Seriously doubt ye'll get up the mountains unless the met are wrong and the sun comes out for the rest of the day.

Ryaner

ROK ON wrote: »

I cycled in 90mins ago.
Wasn't that bad.
Throw on a pair of leggings, gloves, hat and a base layer and you'll be grand.
With RAAM and Blorg out this is my chance at glory. I wouldn't miss it for all the tea in China.

I was out for almost two hours this morning. Assuming you don't need to see, or use your hands afterwards, it should be fine. Snow wasn't sticking to the ground, just to everything else.

If you live in Dundrum, you'd probably get out, do the climb and back before the gear started weighting down too much.

ROK ON

Thanks for heads up folks.
But was out for 1hr this morning. Sure its cold but I was prepared. Wore Assos winterjacket and a rain cape. Merino hat.
Worst thing was visibility but glasses helped.
I'll keep an eye on weather and make a call at 4.

If I head time from work it will be just all NAMA on the news. Frankly I would prefer to freeze my ass of on the bike.

ryan_sherlock

I think I'll be training on my mountain bike today... jeez - I thought by spending 2.5 months outside of Ireland this winter I would miss this sorta thing. Ahh well.

cdaly_

Ryaner wrote: »

I was out for almost two hours this morning. Assuming you don't need to see, or use your hands afterwards, it should be fine.

Ditto. Though not so much hands as toes...

Ryaner

ROK ON wrote: »

Thanks for heads up folks.
But was out for 1hr this morning. Sure its cold but I was prepared. Wore Assos winterjacket and a rain cape. Merino hat.
Worst thing was visibility but glasses helped.
I'll keep an eye on weather and make a call at 4.

If I head time from work it will be just all NAMA on the news. Frankly I would prefer to freeze my ass of on the bike.

After 1 hour this morning, I was pretty ok. Little wet in places but pretty warm and ok.
Roll forward 20 minutes and it was starting to get cold.
40 Minutes later and I had to bite my gloves to get them off as my fingers couldn't grip them.

It is now about two hours since I came in and showered. My hands are *still* cold and sore.

If you do go out and do the TT then you are crazier than I.

RobFowl

From the AA

"*WICKLOW* Reports of 3 inches of snow covering roads in the Glencree area. Gardai tell us that the Sally Gap and Wicklow Gap should both be avoided. A lot of snow is falling around Roundwood, with slushy conditions on the Kilmacanogue Rd (R755). *"

Edit just noted my post count is now the same as my DOB !

Raam

RobFowl wrote: »

From the AA

"*WICKLOW* Reports of 3 inches of snow covering roads in the Glencree area. Gardai tell us that the Sally Gap and Wicklow Gap should both be avoided. A lot of snow is falling around Roundwood, with slushy conditions on the Kilmacanogue Rd (R755). *"

Edit just noted my post count is now the same as my DOB !

1st September 0070?!

niceonetom

So can we declare this event to be officially postponed?

Next Tuesday seems like a popular date for another go.

Caroline_ie

and it's snowing again in D15 right now - I will help w/ marshalling next tuesday no prob.

Beasty

Raam wrote: »

1st September 0070?!

He's just got 3 years younger. At this rate he'll be back to school by the time they go back after Easter:)

ryan_sherlock

Not being run tonight - just back from an MTB session I cut shorter due to the weather. Really really bad.

oflahero

Had a go of this earlier today, 22' 20". And there was me thinking I could go sub-20, so much for that. Cooked myself on the early bit despite all the warnings, so was still stuck in 39x21 for the final third. 193 bpm nearly all the way, wheezing and groaning.

Very few out today, which was a shame, lovely day after a poor start.

Beasty

So who's giving this a go tomorrow evening? - weather looks OK (there may be the odd shower, but the wind should have died down a lot.

Ryan's original post suggested first off at 6.30, so I'll aim at being there 20-30 mins before that so we can sort out timekeeping and marshalling responsibilities

Caroline_ie

Beasty wrote: »

So who's giving this a go tomorrow evening? - weather looks OK (there may be the odd shower, but the wind should have died down a lot.

Ryan's original post suggested first off at 6.30, so I'll aim at being there 20-30 mins before that so we can sort out timekeeping and marshalling responsibilities

I will help you with the time keeping i will try to make it as quick as I can after work.

Lumen

I'm out, can't shake the tonsillitis.