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You never see a priest in the pub anymore

  • 15-03-2010 6:56pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭


    When I was a nipper, the local priest would be sipping whiskey in the evening with the rest of the community down in the local. You never see that anymore.
    Well, maybe after a funeral.

    upcoming threads of a similar nature:
    Also, do priests pay tax on their earnings?
    Can they vote in general elections?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    You'll find them hanging around in the sweetshop now :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    When I was a nipper, the local priest would be sipping whiskey in the evening with the rest of the community down in the local. You never see that anymore.

    Maybe they've given it up for lent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I have drank with young priests and guys who were training to be priests, in the past. They are just like regular people.

    They don't have "earnings" per se. They live lives of poverty *pssh, yeah right* so no taxes are payed AFAIK.

    Yes, they can vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    there are no priests anymore usually just 1 or 2 for a parish when this generation of church goers dies, there will be no more Catholic Church in Ireland and good riddance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Don't see as much underage drinking either. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    A lot of priests would be very old now. They'd also have more work to do as less people are joining. Would also suspect the more normal priests are leaving it now.

    Perhaps there's been some bad happenings, getting called paedos by drunks etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    They probably avoid pubs since the medical world established a connection between alcohol and struggling to get it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Don't see as much underage drinking either. :confused:

    this post is made of win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    The only local you'll see them at these days is the local Crèche.









    bah dum tish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Insert failure of a "Creche" joke here.

    The priests in Ringsend are always in the pub.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    there are no priests anymore usually just 1 or 2 for a parish when this generation of church goers dies, there will be no more Catholic Church in Ireland and good riddance

    Will probably end up with immigrant priests to keep the church francise going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Stephentlig


    I think it could be a case of ...the less priests there are, the more busy they become, so they wouldnt have to time to get down to the local much.

    Pax Christi
    Stephen <3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Back then they could still find someone who'd be willing to buy them a drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Fago! wrote: »
    Insert failure of a "Creche" joke here.

    The priests in Ringsend are always in the pub.

    I think the penance for that is one penis and three Hail Marys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Despite some of them being Pedros - there are some very good Priests out there who have been a great help to many families. They are usually always invited for a drink after a funeral or a wedding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    They don't have "earnings" per se. They live lives of poverty *pssh, yeah right* so no taxes are payed AFAIK.

    Yes, they can vote.

    They're considered public service workers, so they're paid by the government and pay tax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    It's just that they don't put playgrounds near pubs anymore...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Ya and let them stay out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    They're probably hitting the offy like anyone else who hasn't got cash to burn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    I have drank with young priests and guys who were training to be priests, in the past. They are just like regular people

    I was drinking with one last Saturday night actually (a trainee, first year). Sound guy too.
    Crosáidí wrote: »
    there are no priests anymore usually just 1 or 2 for a parish when this generation of church goers dies, there will be no more Catholic Church in Ireland and good riddance

    This year in Maynooth actually had a huge increase in new recruits or trainees, or whatever the right term is..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Afraid of being lynched I'd imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    They can't trust themselves with the lounge-boys after a few pints.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 muppet26


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    there are no priests anymore usually just 1 or 2 for a parish when this generation of church goers dies, there will be no more Catholic Church in Ireland and good riddance
    what a stupid comment? no priests anymore but wait there are actually 1 or 2 for per parish, says he who seems to know all about the church. church will still be around when your long dead and gone my dear boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭ilovemybrick


    They're considered public service workers, so they're paid by the government and pay tax.

    Sorry WHAT? No they're not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    dlofnep wrote: »
    They are usually always invited for a drink after a funeral or a wedding.

    Before driving off to the next one..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Despite some of them being Pedros - there are some very good Priests out there who have been a great help to many families. They are usually always invited for a drink after a funeral or a wedding.

    +1.

    I've met and served with some wonderful priests, and I'd sing my parish priests praises until the cow's come home - he's a brilliant bloke.

    They're not all child abuser's and predators waiting to pounce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    muppet26 wrote: »
    what a stupid comment? no priests anymore but wait there are actually 1 or 2 for per parish, says he who seems to know all about the church. church will still be around when your long dead and gone my dear boy.

    When did I say I knew all about the church,
    Fact is the Novena is just finished, 10 years ago the church was packed to the rafters, this years novena, there was no more than 50 people and no one under 40 attending them, my church you could easily fit 1,000 people in it. Catholicism at a practising level is dying and they only have themselves to blame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    +1.

    I've met and served with some wonderful priests, and I'd sing my parish priests praises until the cow's come home - he's a brilliant bloke.

    They're not all child abuser's and predators waiting to pounce.
    Not to turn it into a anti-cleric bash, but the one's that didn't actively abuse, were involved in a conspiracy of silence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Nevore wrote: »
    the one's that didn't actively abuse, were involved in a conspiracy of silence.

    Would you cop yourself on ffs, what qualifies you to say that?.


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have drank with young priests and guys who were training to be priests, in the past. They are just like regular people.

    I've not seen a young (<40 years old) priest for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Would you cop yourself on ffs, what qualifies you to say that?.
    Uhh, any of a number of reports that slammed the guards, the judiciary, the civil service, legal profession and the clergy for their inaction over decades?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Nevore wrote: »
    Uhh, any of a number of reports that slammed the guards, the judiciary, the civil service, legal profession and the clergy for their inaction over decades?

    That doesn't qualify you to label all priests as being involved in a conspiracy of silence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭grizzly


    In times past they would have gotten respect from everyone down the local – even those who wouldn't be regular church-goers. Now some people view them as pariahs and they mustn't feel as welcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭MarchDub


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Despite some of them being Pedros - there are some very good Priests out there who have been a great help to many families. They are usually always invited for a drink after a funeral or a wedding.
    +1.

    I've met and served with some wonderful priests, and I'd sing my parish priests praises until the cow's come home - he's a brilliant bloke.

    They're not all child abuser's and predators waiting to pounce.

    +2
    Well said both of you. It's both sad and tragic that they all get counted together. I can remember some really good priests who were enormous help to families in times of stress and need. Not to mention those who taught in the schools, were paid a pittance and lived almost in poverty compared to lay teachers of equal education.

    Nowadays many of them are reluctant to wear their collars in public because of the ignorance and taunts they encounter.

    I will add that the same goes for the wider Catholic Church - no one ever talks now about the amount of cash that was paid out on a weekly basis by Catholic charities including the St Vincent de Paul folk to the people in Dublin slums. I know, I used to go with my father and grandfather on these mission trips - and they did it with great discretion. The money was passed on by lay people and without any notion of restitution - it was a gift.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    Sorry WHAT? No they're not.

    They're public sector.

    Although, it does depend on denomination.

    Some get the proceeds from the collection box, donations from the congregation as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Sure you can't bring your kids to the pub after nine anymore can you? It's just not the same without the kids for padre. Fussy lot they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    They're public sector.

    Although, it does depend on denomination.

    Some get the proceeds from the collection box, donations from the congregation as well.

    That's completely false. Priests do not get paid from the public purse.
    Some religious work in schools and hospitals and draw a public salary, but they're few and far between these days.

    In some other European countries, churches are funded from the public purse, but not in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    'Priest' and 'Pub' in the title and no mention of this man?? :eek:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    lonad wrote: »
    I didn't want to start a thread on this but something has been annoying me about religious vocations. Isn't it a calling from God that you get that brings you to the priesthood and Nunnery (?). If this is the case then there has been percieved direct contact with God , so how in the fcuk can they then turn into evil bastards ....... what with God being the utimate good etc. I must remember to ask a priest when I meet one

    Off topic , sorry

    Psst, it's because there is no god, now don't let the secret get out.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    That doesn't qualify you to label all priests as being involved in a conspiracy of silence.
    I think every priest must have heard the rumours, it's bound to leak down through and I do believe the church as a whole did, if not do see themselves as something beyond or above the ordinary people. Maybe not all but enough, and too many of the higher ups knew all to well and they're the people the other priests follow. They still take orders from those that are still trying to cover up what happened.

    It's not fair perhaps to label the younger priests that weren't around when the catholic church was at it's worst but the fact is they're now part of that church and will have to assume the sins of the priests that went before them. Or they could find a new way to worship god that isn't tainted with the abuse of children.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    ScumLord wrote: »
    It's not fair perhaps to label the younger priests that weren't around when the catholic church was at it's worst but the fact is they're now part of that church and will have to assume the sins of the priests that went before them.

    Now let me tell you something, if we in this country were all to be tried for the sin's of our father's we'd all be pretty well fucked from a height!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Now let me tell you something, if we in this country were all to be tried for the sin's of our father's we'd all be pretty well fucked from a height!.
    It's not really the same, we where born into our history's we didn't actively sign up to an organisation. By signing up, and continuing to support it after the fact it's almost as good as condoning it.

    The Roman Catholic church is an organisation that can be judged by the actions of it's members, if you disagree with the actions of the organisation leave, if you agree with what they've done continue to support them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Never see any Publicans in church either...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    When I was a nipper, the local priest would be sipping whiskey in the evening with the rest of the community down in the local. You never see that anymore.
    Well, maybe after a funeral.

    upcoming threads of a similar nature:
    Also, do priests pay tax on their earnings?
    Can they vote in general elections?

    Of course they can vote, no one else is taking the blame for FF getting in again.
    We have to blame someone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Apanachi


    When I was a nipper, the local priest would be sipping whiskey in the evening with the rest of the community down in the local. You never see that anymore.
    Well, maybe after a funeral.

    Our parish priest back home is always down i the pub on a Saturday night, he's a riot, one of the few priests i actually like (don't like the fact that he drives home drunk every time though :()


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    <Ollie> wrote: »
    I was drinking with one last Saturday night actually (a trainee, first year). Sound guy too.



    This year in Maynooth actually had a huge increase in new recruits or trainees, or whatever the right term is..

    They're called "seminarians".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Apanachi wrote: »
    Our parish priest back home is always down i the pub on a Saturday night, he's a riot, one of the few priests i actually like (don't like the fact that he drives home drunk every time though :()

    You should say it to the bollix then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    They don't have "earnings" per se. They live lives of poverty *pssh, yeah right* so no taxes are payed AFAIK.

    Yes, they can vote.

    Yes they have earnings, earnings that must be declared and tax paid when due. No the average parish priest does not live a life of poverty, vows of poverty are restricted to some congregations within the Church but not every priest has taken one. That said they are instructed to life modestly.
    They're considered public service workers, so they're paid by the government and pay tax.
    They're public sector....

    Unless a priest is working as a teacher / hospital chaplain etc he is not considered a "public service" and is not paid anything by the government. The government does not pay your average Fr Joe Soap parish priest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭star.chaser


    alcohol+priest=violence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Apanachi


    bonerm wrote: »
    You should say it to the bollix then.

    Well, seeing as I don't live there anymore, I very rarely see him, I did mention it to him once though (not directly given out to him as such, but questioned whether he felt he was fit to drive) his answer was, "sure the car knows it's own way home, it drives me :( The police turn a blind eye to him too, ah yes, catholic Ireland, still ruled by the clergy.... :(


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