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stephen_n

It's not a capitalist country either!

Meesared

stephen_n wrote: »

It's not a capitalist country either!

Eh yeah it kinda is

stephen_n

Meesared wrote: »

Eh yeah it kinda is

Capitalism requires a free market economy, how does socializing upwards of 70bn in bank debt fit into that model?

Meesared

So on that, according to you the largest Capitalist country in the world (the US) isn't capitalist?

stephen_n

Meesared wrote: »

So on that, according to you the largest Capitalist country in the world (the US) isn't capitalist?

Capitalism requires a free market economy so no, capitalism as it existed is dead. Capitalism is built on demand and greed. If a business is not viable it will fail, that's exactly what happened but instead of letting them fail we socialized the debt. Now we have socialism for corporate entities and a form of capitalism for the people. The problem being that as its all driven by the need for profit and no longer sustainability, the whole system is doomed to failure. As the Chinese tweaked communism, the west is going to have to radically rethink capitalism. If a corporation is required to increase profits year on year to satisfy its stockholders, at twice the rate of inflation, that is not sustainable. America can no longer be classed a free market economy no, so therefore it is not a capitalist society anymore!

Annasopra

No.

I don't begrudge anyone anything. I'm not jealous of success. To be honest accusations of begrudgery and jealousy are frankly a cheap argument.

This budget hit the lowest earners in thid country the hardest. It is increasing income inequality and is actually a transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest. That to me is deeply deeply unfair.

But the word fairness gets thrown way too much for my liking.

Professor Kathleen Lynch discussed the issue of fairness 2 years ago

http://vimeo.com/m/12744396

L1011

mango salsa wrote: »

It is increasing income inequality and is actually a transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest. That to me is deeply deeply unfair.

This is patently untrue.

Increasing income inequality would have required not hitting those on high incomes whilst hitting those on lower - this didn't happen

Transferring wealth would have required actually giving more benefits to those on higher incomes - this didn't happen either.

Meesared

mango salsa wrote: »

No.
This budget hit the lowest earners in thid country the hardest. It is increasing income inequality and is actually a transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest. That to me is deeply deeply unfair.

Sorry I'm really going to have to disagree with you here, its just not the case, I'm a low earner and the most I'm going to lose is around is around €50 a month, money I could easily save with being more sensible with my money.

stephen_n

Meesared wrote: »

Sorry I'm really going to have to disagree with you here, its just not the case, I'm a low earner and the most I'm going to lose is around is around €50 a month, money I could easily save with being more sensible with my money.

Do you have dependants?

KDII

Watching Mishel Roux Jr on MasterChef is a confusing experience for this raging lesbian.

He just described a nice goats cheese using the word "goaty". Delicious.

baby and crumble

Everyone all set for Christmas? I'm just finishing up the last of my present cooking- chilli jam, maple fudge and oreo cookie bark. NOM NOM.

KDII

That all sounds ridiculously amazing... We're going away for Christmas this year so ill miss all the Christmassy food!

fillefatale

The girl I had a brief thing with a few months ago changed her relationship status on fb recently. My stomach sank, but I'm happy for her. It was more the envy of her finding someone and being happy whereas I'm living at home and feeling like the spinster aunt. Oh well, maybe by Xmas 2013 I'll have found some happiness too!

ItAintMeBabe

fillefatale wrote: »

The girl I had a brief thing with a few months ago changed her relationship status on fb recently. My stomach sank, but I'm happy for her. It was more the envy of her finding someone and being happy whereas I'm living at home and feeling like the spinster aunt. Oh well, maybe by Xmas 2013 I'll have found some happiness too!

That sucks about the girl you liked, I hate that sinking feeling! But everything happens for a reason 2013 will be a lucky year I think, the girl for you is prob just around the corner

ashers22

The very hot italian lesbian working next door gave me a free lunch on Friday. She speeka lika dis. too. cute

jaffacakesyum

fillefatale wrote: »

The girl I had a brief thing with a few months ago changed her relationship status on fb recently. My stomach sank, but I'm happy for her. It was more the envy of her finding someone and being happy whereas I'm living at home and feeling like the spinster aunt. Oh well, maybe by Xmas 2013 I'll have found some happiness too!

I know the feeling pal! Girl I was seeing for a little while recently told me she just got into a relationship with a guy. It's a killer

On the upside had a nice date with a girl before Christmas but she hasn't really been in touch. I hate the way I'm so bloody straight forward with these things that people always know where they stand with me, or I should think so! I think I'm just one of those people that's 'good' at texting wheras maybe she isn't...or maybe she's not interested anymore!

Annasopra

The RTE classics on the RTE Player are really enjoyable

Investigative journalism on Today Tonight
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10044248/

The Granard tragedy with Marian Finucane
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/1147800/

Italia 90 homecoming
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10044461/

Eurovision at the point
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10044252/

Mailbag
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/1147801/

Portarit of James Connolly
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/1149726/

Faces and Places Wicklow
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10038722/

Where in the world
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10038719/

L1011

The entry round questions on Where In The World are EXTREMELY complicated for a quiz show these days, they really didn't want to hand out prizes did they....

stephen_n

RTE's quiz shows were always rediculously hard compared to their UK counterparts, I vaguely remember Murphy's micro quizem [sp] and it was probably harder than mastermind but RTE's budget didn't really stretch to good prizes after building the fancy sets lol

DazMarz

Yet another thread in AH about LGBT issues.... and it's going to descend into a pissing contest, as usual. Those threads are usually started with good intentions but just give the bigots a forum and a platform.

But the video in it (promoting views putting down gay marriage; made by that wonderful cancer on this society The Iona Institute) would be quite hilarious, but for the fact that they're being serious about it. It's not tongue in cheek. And they have the brass neck to say that they're NOT discriminating.

LoveBiscuits

Just finished the "The walking dead" game. Damn the last episode is so depressing.

L.Jenkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xOGVw3KJE

I see this is doing the rounds on Facebook. Brought to you be http://www.ionainstitute.ie/

wonderfulname

That would be the topic of discussion on the aforementioned AH thread, bit of a headwreck of a read...

mr.anonymous

The problem is that "Mum and Dad" keep having gay kids to discriminate against.

I'd say a similar argument was made when men and women of different colours wanted to marry in the US. Those kind of videos always remind of the Civil Rights history I did in school.

Awkward moment when you're on the wrong side of history:

Annasopra

wonderfulname wrote: »

That would be the topic of discussion on the aforementioned AH thread, bit of a headwreck of a read...

I've read way way worse on AH. It's actually not that bad at all.

wonderfulname

mango salsa wrote: »

I've read way way worse on AH. It's actually not that bad at all.

Oh I agree, headwreck isn't a strong description at all in my book, just these circular threads of ill considered opinions, well, wreck my head slightly.

Lyaiera

I don't know where I read this first...

It's New Year's Eve not New Years Steve.

So much for having a gay old time during the festive period. :P

L1011

Lyaiera wrote: »

I don't know where I read this first...



So much for having a gay old time during the festive period. :P

Its not NYE anymore by the end of the night

Daith

wonderfulname wrote: »

That would be the topic of discussion on the aforementioned AH thread, bit of a headwreck of a read...

Yes. Kind of sad I spent so much time posting Need to conserve the energy for when it actually counts.

Off to see the lads for some quiet pints. Have a good New Years everyone.

wonderfulname

Happy new year all!