TV licence question

Ms.Moxy

Hi all , so I got a renewal notice today, rang the number on it and told them I got rid of the TV back in December. They are going to send out a statutary declaration form for me to sign saying I got rid of the TV ( Oh the bureacracy of it all :rolleyes:) I was also told that even if I send that back legally stating that I have no TV the inspector can still call. So if he does call can I just say I got the TV literally that day from a relative and that I was intending getting the licence the next day??? or would I still be caught ??

Dublin_Gunner

In that case, when the inspector called, you would still be in possession of a TV without a licence = fine.

Just get a licence for your own sake. Its not gonna break the bank.

Ms.Moxy

I see what your saying and I have always paid my tv licence but I genuinely can not afford it this year so I thought this would be a way of avoiding it for a few months till I can afford to pay it.

chamlis

Yeah you'll be fine. If you get caught just go and pay the license fee. That negates any fines (at least in my experience). The fee will then be once a year from that date on.

Dublin_Gunner

chamlis wrote: »

Yeah you'll be fine. If you get caught just go and pay the license fee. That negates any fines (at least in my experience). The fee will then be once a year from that date on.

Ah, I didn't know that, my bad

Ms Moxy - in that case, don't worry about it.

Its funny I looked like I came from the moral high ground there - I haven't had a licence in 2 years lol (I do live in a gated estate though, and never seen an inspector!)

Ms.Moxy

Thanks Chamilis. No Worries Dublin _ Gunner I did'nt think you were on the moral high ground at all all advice is gratefully received. I have been in my current house for 3 years and always had a licence and Never once been visited by the inspector so I reckon its not going to break them if I avoid it for a few months.. Lord knows they get enough revenue from ads on TV and other taxes I pay so why the hell I should have to pay €160 for a licence to watch the likes of the "all Ireland Talent show " and other poor replicas of successful foreign programs is beyond me :mad:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

nipplenuts wrote: »

It has nothing to do with RTE (as a rule for what you must receive), it is a license to receive TV signals. So, no, your plan wouldn't work. In fact, there's already a move to license your PC also.

Well I wish them luck with that one. What is the license for exactly?

They can fcuk right off, I will never ever purchase a license for my PC... Our government are the thickest of the thick. Do they honestly expect everyone to splash out on a PC License?

Alun

Jazmin Millions Jacket wrote: »

They can fcuk right off, I will never ever purchase a license for my PC... Our government are the thickest of the thick. Do they honestly expect everyone to splash out on a PC License?

They already have this in Germany, so not a case of 'only in ireland' this time I'm afraid.

Radharc na Sleibhte

rarnes1 wrote: »

pretend the telly is a microwave and have a recording of a chicken being cooked :pac:

Urgh, who microwaves a chicken?

mehmeh12

Jazmin Millions Jacket wrote: »

Well I wish them luck with that one. What is the license for exactly?

They can fcuk right off, I will never ever purchase a license for my PC... Our government are the thickest of the thick. Do they honestly expect everyone to splash out on a PC License?

A PC license-wtf? And how come people can be charged for rte services in advance-irregardless of whether you watch rte or dont you still have to pay for a tv license. So its not really a tv license at all, rather a unfair way for rte to remain in business despite the 'home grown' ****e they produce.

I love the way this government always tries to rip off the people via direct and indirect taxes yet does little else to improve the economy or wellbeing of the people.

Elevator

But if you have a sky box your name and address has already been passed on to an post so they know who you ate and where you are

Dublin_Gunner

Elevator wrote: »

But if you have a sky box your name and address has already been passed on to an post so they know who you ate and where you are

If they knew that, I doubt the inspector would be too pushed on calling in TBH...

o1s1n

coolabula wrote: »

have tv for kids to play the Wii and watch DVD,

Have you thought about just buying an LCD computer monitor for that purpose? They can't receive a broadcast signal at all.

I have one connected up to my xbox via few VGA adapters and it works great.

Haven't tried it yet with the Wii, but I'm sure it's possible.

Dublin_Gunner

o1s1n wrote: »

Have you thought about just buying an LCD computer monitor for that purpose? They can't receive a broadcast signal at all.

I have one connected up to my xbox via few VGA adapters and it works great.

Haven't tried it yet with the Wii, but I'm sure it's possible.

I'm pretty sure there is a VGA adapter for the Wii, just as there are for the xbox and PS3. (3rd party)

Or a simple component > vga adapter would work just fine.

biko

OP moved from an old thread.

If you are asking if you can get away with no licence even thought you still have a telly the official boards answer is No. We will not give any advice that is against the law.

AH answer: sure just use a videotape of fish and when inspector calls, claim it's an aquarium!

walshb

Ms.Moxy wrote: »

I see what your saying and I have always paid my tv licence but I genuinely can not afford it this year so I thought this would be a way of avoiding it for a few months till I can afford to pay it.

Simple, but brutal, if you can't afford the licence, don't get the tv!

Minstrel27

Ms.Moxy wrote: »

I genuinely can not afford it this year

Can you afford to go drinking?

o1s1n

walshb wrote: »

Simple, but brutal, if you can't afford the licence, don't get the tv!

But she already had the tv from the previous license. It's not like you have to buy a new tv every time your license comes around for renewal :P

walshb

o1s1n wrote: »

But she already had the tv from the previous license. It's not like you have to buy a new tv every time your license comes around for renewal :P

I am not going to make this any more complicated than it should be. Has the poster got a tv on her premises? And, if so, does she have a current licence for this tv. This is fairly simple I would imagine. If she does not have a licence, then she runs the risk.

Bloody Nipples

The inspector can't enter your house without a warrant anyway. You can just refuse him entry. He'd have to go get a warrant from the guards.

Stercus Accidit

Whats the story with receiving letters addressed to someone who doesn't live here any more, I'd like to let them know but don't want them asking my name.

Is it possible to send them a letter to that effect?

dvpower

Originally Posted by Ms.Moxy
I genuinely can not afford it this year

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Can you afford to go drinking?

Are you asking her out?

Wazdakka

walshb wrote: »

I am not going to make this any more complicated than it should be. Has the poster got a tv on her premises? And, if so, does she have a current licence for this tv.

Dont answer OP... It's a trick..
Those damn Licence hunters are everywhere..

walshb

Bloody Nipples wrote: »

The inspector can't enter your house without a warrant anyway. You can just refuse him entry. He'd have to go get a warrant from the guards.

For the freaking sake of 160 Euro, I'd give her the money myself. Really, is it worth all that hassle?

stovelid

Ms.Moxy wrote: »

I see what your saying and I have always paid my tv licence but I genuinely can not afford it this year so I thought this would be a way of avoiding it for a few months till I can afford to pay it.

Just stare at the wall and invent interesting TV programmes in your head.

ballsymchugh

stovelid wrote: »

Just stare at the wall and invent interesting TV programmes in your head.

and if you can't think of anything interesting, there's always the late late show!

Mona Lott

OP - you know we're talking about a mere 40 odd cent a week

gurramok

walshb wrote: »

For the freaking sake of 160 Euro, I'd give her the money myself. Really, is it worth all that hassle?

My TV tax is due for renewal too, will you pay mine as well?

walshb

gurramok wrote: »

My TV tax is due for renewal too, will you pay mine as well?

Only if I get the remote?

gurramok

Mona Lott wrote: »

OP - you know we're talking about a mere 40 odd cent a week

TV tax is only about 21quid??:eek:

gurramok

walshb wrote: »

Only if I get the remote?

I'd have no choice there with you been a boxer

walshb

gurramok wrote: »

I'd have no choice there with you been a boxer

Well, the remote would be **** all use to me with a pair of boxing gloves on....;)

gurramok

walshb wrote: »

Well, the remote would be **** all use to me with a pair of boxing gloves on....;)

You would come in handy for when Mr. Inspector comes around to the door

walshb

gurramok wrote: »

You would come in handy for when Mr. Inspector comes around to the door

Yeah, but you know, "They've heard all the excuses before."

aidan24326

Ms.Moxy wrote: »

I see what your saying and I have always paid my tv licence but I genuinely can not afford it this year so I thought this would be a way of avoiding it for a few months till I can afford to pay it.

Just don't pay it then. And don't answer the door unless you're expecting someone, hence avoiding tv license man. I have never had a tv license and have no intention of getting one any time soon either.

Minstrel27

dvpower wrote: »

Are you asking her out?

Sure, why not.

walshb

aidan24326 wrote: »

Just don't pay it then. And don't answer the door unless you're expecting someone, hence avoiding tv license man. I have never had a tv license and have no intention of getting one any time soon either.

The part I agree with is the NOT answering the door unless you (know/expect/want to let in) exactly who it is.

sbsquarepants

aidan24326 wrote: »

Just don't pay it then. And don't answer the door unless you're expecting someone, hence avoiding tv license man. I have never had a tv license and have no intention of getting one any time soon either.

Same here, they send reminders all the time followed by registered letters, but i live in an apartment, no one to accept registered post during the day, so they leave a note to collect it at the post office. if i'm not expecting anything i just leave it there, no good news ever comes by unsolicited registered letter!
€160 for joe duffy, gerry ryan, ryan tubridy etc.....No, just No

walshb

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Same here, they send reminders all the time followed by registered letters, but i live in an apartment, no one to accept registered post during the day, so they leave a note to collect it at the post office. if i'm not expecting anything i just leave it there, no good news ever comes by unsolicited registered letter!
€160 for joe duffy, gerry ryan, ryan tubridy etc.....No, just No

Exactly, I never accept registered letters because of why you say. If the people really want to get you, they will. Why make it easy for them and receive and open a letter that may well harm you....

General Zod

Elevator wrote: »

But if you have a sky box your name and address has already been passed on to an post so they know who you ate and where you are

No it's not, Data protection act prevents them doing that without your consent.

dvpower

Originally Posted by Ms.Moxy
I genuinely can not afford it this year

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Can you afford to go drinking?

dvpower wrote: »

Are you asking her out?

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Sure, why not.

@Ms.Moxy. Looks like you won't be needing that TV after all.:D

faceman

Dear AH,

I dont want to pay my tv license anymore cos I, er, *cough*, cant afford it. So i would like to say to all of you fellow AH's who do pay your license, "Up yours!".

Now Im off to the pub now buy pints of beer. No wait, I mean, my ma is going to buy me pints cos i have no money.

Yours lovingly etc.

o1s1n

walshb wrote: »

I am not going to make this any more complicated than it should be. Has the poster got a tv on her premises? And, if so, does she have a current licence for this tv. This is fairly simple I would imagine. If she does not have a licence, then she runs the risk.

Seems you missed my attempt at making a funny.

walshb wrote: »

For the freaking sake of 160 Euro, I'd give her the money myself. Really, is it worth all that hassle?

I'd rather the 160 tbh.

To come into contact with a TV license inspector you have to answer the door. They're not going to beat it down with a battering ram.

Simple solution - Don't answer the door unless you're expecting someone.

It's actually LESS hassle as you don't have to get off the couch as much.

Plus you also save yourself the risk of opening the door to other annoyances such as -

salespeople/charity collectors/beggars/religious fantatics

sbsquarepants

I like the cut of your jib, walshb.
Outlaws like us don't need no stinking licences!

You too OP, join our gang!

Bill-e

I'm renting a gaff. and It came with a huge 42" TV wall mounted in the front room.

Personally I'm never there to watch TV (too much work )
Is it the landlord who is to pay the licence or what?

Dublin_Gunner

Bill-e wrote: »

I'm renting a gaff. and It came with a huge 42" TV wall mounted in the front room.

Personally I'm never there to watch TV (too much work )
Is it the landlord who is to pay the licence or what?

That could be a tricky one.

IMO if its the landlords TV, then they should pay the licence.

General Zod

It's the residents responsibility actually, you're renting the TV as well. If you don't use it, either come to an agreement with your landlord about sharing the cost of the licence or ask for it to be removed.

msg11

Is it not a license for Radio too ? How do they get around the car radio problem.

As said just don't open the door. Or, open the door. And run out screaming, he has a gun.

Dublin_Gunner

msg11 wrote: »

Is it not a license for Radio too ? How do they get around the car radio problem.

As said just don't open the door. Or, open the door. And run out screaming, he has a gun.

This was touched upon in this thread already - you don't need a licence for radio (i.e a standard, consumer radio for listening to AM/FM etc radio broadcasts).

patwicklow

stovelid wrote: »

Just stare at the wall and invent interesting TV programmes in your head.

WELL THAT WOULD BE ALOT MORE INTERESTING THEN WATCHING THE CRAP RTE DISHES OUT.. I THINK THEY HAVE A BIG SKIP SOME WERE, LIKE WHO THE FECK WANTS TO WATCH MURDER SHE WROTE OR ALL THE OTHER CRAP REPEATS THEY SHOW AND THEY HAVE A BARE FACED CHEEK TO GET €160 OFF US?? AND THE BEST OF IT THE LATE LATE THAT TALENT SHOW, JUST MAKES ME LAUGH, THE SET UP. OVER PAID TWITS ON EM ALL......

aidan24326

General Zod wrote: »

It's the residents responsibility actually, you're renting the TV as well. If you don't use it, either come to an agreement with your landlord about sharing the cost of the licence or ask for it to be removed.

That's correct, it is the tenant's responsibility, not the landlord's.

I got a letter recently from them but it was addressed to 'The Occupier'. Hence why it's important not to answer the door and get collared by big bad* license inspector, as they can't send a court summons to Mr.Occupier. They need your name.

*In saying 'big bad', to be fair I have spoken to tv license guys a couple of times in the past and found them to be sound enough. Still didn't get one though.