Woman loses house and children to husband!

caseyann

I heard something from a lady i know tis morning and it is disgraceful.
This woman has three children married like 15 years.Children between ages of 6 and 11.Her husband became abusive and was cheating on her.She asked for a divorce,First he wouldn't give it to her and wouldn't leave the home.Through all of this he wouldn't help with food or bills.She was scrimping and scraping even though he was in the house.
So it went to court for divorce.And the courts awarded him the house and the children and ordered her to leave making her homeless:eek: Then to make things worse.The Judge only gave her an hour a week to see her children :eek: She is devastated She is living luckily with a friend who put her up.Through the stress and upset of it all she lost her job:( What is the world coming to.

Cookie_Monster

if it was the other way around though you (& everyone else) wouldn't bat an eyelid

m@cc@

caseyann wrote: »

I heard something from a lady i know tis morning and it is disgraceful.
This woman has three children married like 15 years.Children between ages of 6 and 11.Her husband became abusive and was cheating on her.She asked for a divorce,First he wouldn't give it to her and wouldn't leave the home.Through all of this he wouldn't help with food or bills.She was scrimping and scraping even though he was in the house.
So it went to court for divorce.And the courts awarded him the house and the children and ordered her to leave making her homeless:eek: Then to make things worse.The Judge only gave her an hour a week to see her children :eek: She is devastated She is living luckily with a friend who put her up.Through the stress and upset of it all she lost her job:( What is the world coming to.

Methinks theres more to the story than this lady is letting on. Don't worry yourself about it.

brianthebard

Link? This doesn't happen in Ireland even if the father is clearly the better parent to keep the children, so I find this exceedingly unlikely.

pickarooney

That's got to be the world's worst lawyer if (s)he could lose a case like that in Ireland. I, for one, refuse to believe any of this at face value.

caseyann

pickarooney wrote: »

That's got to be the world's worst lawyer if (s)he could lose a case like that in Ireland. I, for one, refuse to believe any of this at face value.

She didnt have one,couldnt afford it and legal aid was a years waiting list.

brianthebard

brianthebard wrote: »

Link? This doesn't happen in Ireland even if the father is clearly the better parent to keep the children, so I find this exceedingly unlikely.

A friend of mine kept the house and kids when he divorced the wife! It does happen, just not very often.

caseyann

brianthebard wrote: »

Link? This doesn't happen in Ireland even if the father is clearly the better parent to keep the children, so I find this exceedingly unlikely.

There is no link its true story from someone i know Lovely quiet girl to.

seamus

What we're probably missing here is her alcoholism and gambling problem which is why the husband refused to give her any money for food, etc.

Without a link, this hearsay is useless.

brianthebard

caseyann wrote: »

There is no link its true story from someone i know Lovely quiet girl to.

I don't believe any of it for a second.

pickarooney

caseyann wrote: »

She didnt have one,couldnt afford it and legal aid was a years waiting list.

Hang on... she started legal proceedings without a lawyer and without waiting until she could get a free one? Swing and a miss. I still doubt the story is in any way true.

DonJose

Look at it from the mans point of view, "The sex is the same but the dishes are piling up."

bonerm

caseyann wrote: »

I heard something from a lady i know tis morning

Nothing like a bit of unbiased news.

m@cc@

caseyann wrote: »

I heard something from a lady i know tis morning and it is disgraceful.
This woman has three children married like 15 years.Children between ages of 6 and 11.Her husband became abusive and was cheating on her.She asked for a divorce,First he wouldn't give it to her and wouldn't leave the home.Through all of this he wouldn't help with food or bills.She was scrimping and scraping even though he was in the house.
So it went to court for divorce.And the courts awarded him the house and the children and ordered her to leave making her homeless:eek: Then to make things worse.The Judge only gave her an hour a week to see her children :eek: She is devastated She is living luckily with a friend who put her up.Through the stress and upset of it all she lost her job:( What is the world coming to.

Wait I know...........is it?

http://ctrlshiftrtn.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kerrykatona_468x385.jpg

caseyann

m@cc@ wrote: »

Methinks theres more to the story than this lady is letting on. Don't worry yourself about it.

Trust me there is not i know him he is a complete bastard,he made her life hell for last 4 years.She paid half of that house and she now has nothing.:(

kodute

Fictional story is fictional :pac:

Biggins

Unless a link and/or more accurate detail, I'll take this "tale" as pure useless gossip.

Fathers rights in this country are an EXTREME joke so even IF this story was true - there would have to be some EXTREME circumstances as to why such a thing would happen!

IF true - there is more to this "tale" than is being told.

bonerm

m@cc@ wrote: »

Wait I know...........is it?

http://ctrlshiftrtn.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kerrykatona_468x385.jpg

Yeah but remember when she used to be hot? No, me either.

caseyann

pickarooney wrote: »

Hang on... she started legal proceedings without a lawyer and without waiting until she could get a free one? Swing and a miss. I still doubt the story is in any way true.

Trust me they got a court date brought her in and she hadn't got a lawyer and the judge let it go ahead.

biko

Sorry for your friend if this is true OP but right now it just sounds too far fetched. The court usually has more facts than us.

Nodin

caseyann wrote:

(............;).

Somebody told you something? Fascinating.

Is this like the whole 'Russian Mafia' thing?

caseyann

Biggins wrote: »

Unless a link and/or more accurate detail, I'll take this "tale" as pure useless gossip.

Fathers rights in this country are an EXTREME joke so even IF this story was true - there would have to be some EXTREME circumstances as to why such a thing would happen!

IF true - there is more to this "tale" than is being told.

They said because she hadnt got money.

This isnt even about the house its about the kids.They took her kids from her and have only given her access an hour a week.If this was a man who got only that amount of access to his kids i would be saying same thing.

pickarooney

caseyann wrote: »

Trust me there is not i know him he is a complete bastard,he made her life hell for last 4 years.She paid half of that house and she now has nothing.:(

Joe Duffy... although I doubt even he would swallow this mess of half-truths.

seanybiker

well if she could keep her man happy at home then he wouldnt have to go somewhere else, *clicks fingers* you know its true girlfriend.

"jerry, jerry, jerry "

TheZohanS

Was her husband a black taxi driver by any chance? :rolleyes:

Nodin

caseyann wrote: »

Trust me (......).

And why wouldn't we trust a multi-linguist such as yourself. Sure aren't you as good as the News at one.

Mr. Presentable

caseyann wrote: »

I heard something from a lady i know tis morning and it is disgraceful.
This woman has three children married like 15 years.Children between ages of 6 and 11.Her husband became abusive and was cheating on her.She asked for a divorce,First he wouldn't give it to her and wouldn't leave the home.Through all of this he wouldn't help with food or bills.She was scrimping and scraping even though he was in the house.
So it went to court for divorce.And the courts awarded him the house and the children and ordered her to leave making her homeless:eek: Then to make things worse.The Judge only gave her an hour a week to see her children :eek: She is devastated She is living luckily with a friend who put her up.Through the stress and upset of it all she lost her job:( What is the world coming to.

She must be a right baxtard for the house and kids to be given to a man. Or has she had a gender change operation? That'd explain it.

kodute

pickarooney wrote: »

Joe Duffy... although I doubt even he would swallow this mess of half-truths.

If that fails Gerry Ryan always loves a good 'men are b*stards' story without letting facts get in the way.

Tordelback

caseyann wrote: »

She didnt have one,couldnt afford it and legal aid was a years waiting list.

It seems incredible to me that a judge in what I assume was the Circuit Court would not have adjourned the case until a mother who was obviously incompetent to represent herself (she lost her kids - in Ireland) was able to secure either a solicitor or legal aid. I understand all too well the 'absolutely no money' situation, but when your kids and your home are on the line you need to get help. I'd really worry about the mental competence of someone who would ask for a divorce without taking some legal advice and getting her ducks in a line - this wasn't done to her.

This of course is taking the story at face value, and assuming that the woman isn't a closet monster and the judge unusually perceptive, but that's only fair.

Nodin

caseyann wrote: »

They said because she hadnt got money.

And they didn't make an order for maintenance against the husband?

Biggins

caseyann wrote: »

They said because she hadnt got money.

Please! We are a social welfare state - and before the debate goes down that route also - there has to be more to this story than is being told!

Q. Where is the girls parents on this matter,
Q. Why are they not helping?
Q. Husband/Partner - maintenance?
Q. Who side is this version of events coming from? (A friends side? Biased? Friends of the woman involved conveniently leaving out certain details not advantageous to a possible fuller story?)
Q. What mother would be so stupid as to not fight for her children by every means possible? And that includes allowing a state free appointed solicitor?

seanybiker

Nodin wrote: »

And they didn't make an order for maintenance against the husband?

why should the husband have to do all the DIY?

caseyann

Nodin wrote: »

And they didn't make an order for maintenance against the husband?

No it went totally wrong for her.I guess she was at fault for not been prepared but you dont think you are going to lose everything and the kids.
And she is a lovely woman.She endured alot and even tried to make things work with counselling.
My whole problem is they took her access from the children she was with all the time.

seanybiker

is she hot? A few kids so she is obviously riding. brummytom could be her rebound ride if he hurries.

we'llallhavetea_old

if this is true, we're quite obviously missing alot of the story. kids are not just taken from their mothers in this country, unless something is seriously wrong.

i smell BS.

Mr. Presentable

caseyann wrote: »

No it went totally wrong for her.I guess she was at fault for not been prepared but you dont think you are going to lose everything and the kids.
And she is a lovely woman.She endured alot and even tried to make things work with counselling.
My whole problem is they took her access from the children she was with all the time.

This suggests a lot. They only reduce access like you describe when there is a risk to the children.

caseyann

Biggins wrote: »

Please! We are a social welfare state - and before the debate goes down that route also - there has to be more to this story than is being told!

Q. Where is the girls parents on this matter,
Q. Why are they not helping?
Q. Husband/Partner - maintenance?
Q. Who side is this version of events coming from? (A friends side? Biased? Leaving out certain details not advantageous to a possible fuller story?)
Q. What mother would be so stupid as to not fight for her children by every means possible? And that includes allowing a state free appointed solicitor?

She was earning money as she did work while children were in school.She lost her job applied for legal aid and there is year waiting list.They went ahead without lawyers.Any judge should not have let happen.
Her parents are dead.
He lied and said he had been paying.But now no longer as he has the house and kids so she gets nothing.

Nodin

caseyann wrote: »

No it(.....) time.

I believe you.

Honestly.

caseyann

nipplenuts wrote: »

This suggests a lot. They only reduce access like you describe when there is a risk to the children.

They took access of the kids away from her because she has no home now!

AnonoBoy

Wow, tough break.

How is the ficitious woman coping on the breadline in the land of make believe?

caseyann

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

if this is true, we're quite obviously missing alot of the story. kids are not just taken from their mothers in this country, unless something is seriously wrong.

i smell BS.

No bull**** its honest to god truth. But what ever entitled to opinion.Hope never happens to you.

brianthebard

caseyann wrote: »

No it went totally wrong for her.I guess she was at fault for not been prepared but you dont think you are going to lose everything and the kids.

What she didn't know that she shouldn't mention the crack cocaine she sells and that she lets people use her house as a brothel? Those are about the only reasons a judge would take the kids and house from a woman in an Irish divorce case.

pickarooney

caseyann wrote: »

But now no longer as he has the house and kids so she gets nothing.

At least she hasn't to worry about negative equity. Or Power Rangers.

Bolag_the_2nd

as a trained Citizens Information Officer, this would never happen, there must be a lot more to this, even if she was a walking header, she would still have a better chance of keeping the family home, and the one hour a week with the children, nah this is poppycock.

AnonoBoy

caseyann wrote: »

They took access of the kids away from her because she has no home now!

So if you're renting or staying with friends or relatives you're unfit to see your children?

Nonsense.

In fact more than nonsense.

Aboslute rubbish.

I call the biggest shenanigans possible on this story.

pickarooney

Was the woman a banker? In that case it all makes sense.

we'llallhavetea_old

caseyann wrote: »

No bull**** its honest to god truth. But what ever entitled to opinion.Hope never happens to you.

well it won't, because tbh i would never be stupid enough to go to court without legal representation. also, there would be no reason for my child to be taken off me.

Danbo!

OP, when you heard this story, were the last 3 words "Purple Monkey Dishwasher"??

caseyann

Biggins wrote: »

Unless a link and/or more accurate detail, I'll take this "tale" as pure useless gossip.

Fathers rights in this country are an EXTREME joke so even IF this story was true - there would have to be some EXTREME circumstances as to why such a thing would happen!

IF true - there is more to this "tale" than is being told.

Never heard of a good liar turning it all around on the innocent.Never happened ever in world.Or the good liar who gets off with murder.

caseyann

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

well it won't, because tbh i would never be stupid enough to go to court without legal representation. also, there would be no reason for my child to be taken off me.

How do you know.Not like has to be good reason for your child to be taken off you just the better liar

Biggins

caseyann wrote: »

Never heard of a good liar turning it all around on the innocent.Never happened ever in world.Or the good liar who gets off with murder.

Those things happen but bear no evidential relationship to this so far "gossip" case.
Are we seriously to believe that the press wouldn't be all over this like a rash if there wasn't more to this story?
Are we seriously to believe that the case IF TRUE - hasn't been examined in detail by the judge, solicitors, social services checks and reports submitted (of father, mother and kids)?