UL Students against UL RAG Week

streetsweeper

For some, rag week is a week of fun, a week where students can do as they choose, but to a small minority of students it represents something far more sinister.
The very mention of RAG week makes me cringe. I dread it every year it ruins all the momentum I try to build leading up to my summer exams. Not many people have the moral courage to stand up and speak about what they think is right. But I refuse to be bullied into following the ‘stat quo’ Some of the things I saw from my living room window during last years RAG week isn’t fit for print. I’m a serious student and I tried to go to lectures during the whole week. While walking with my books through the campus I was faced with all types of drunken debauchary and general lawlessness. I just thought to myself- ‘this isn’t about charity, RAG week has lost his way.’ I will be boycotting this years event.
Walking through the student estates during "DRAB" (oh Im sorry I meant RAG) week is like seeing a vision of a post-apocalyptic Ireland. I saw students getting sick several times during my evening stroll around the campus. Well I’ll tell you one thing, I’m also sick- sick of RAG Week.
I enjoy a laugh and a joke as much as the next person but I do not tolerate vandalism of public property, some of which happened far too close to home for my liking. Yeah. I go out the odd night and I enjoy a few drinks. So what? Big deal but you won’t see me bungling some young-one half cut into a taxi. That’s not my style.
Do you even know what RAG week stands for? Raise and Give Week. It’s meant to be a charity event. I think some students in this university think it stands for Rum and Gin Week. I don’t have a problem with people who drink but don’t pretend something is about charity when its clearly not.
College Court last year was filled with allsorts of sinful behaviour. Bottles lay abandoned on doorsteps, cars were vandalised and men shouted sexist comments at women who happened to pass themI can’t and I will not tolerate sexist remarks.I’m a man of principle. It was like my house had been landed in the middle of the Biblical cities of Sodom and Gommorah. I hope I never have to face the likes of it as long as I live.
When I was in his first year in college and part-took wholeheartedly in the RAG week mantra that was “shoved down my throat” by his first year housemates. Had to go on medication for two weeks after I got internal bleeding in my liver so the next time you think DRAB Week is gonna be a laugh, think of me and the harm it has done to my self esteem.

Opinions are welcome.

Berty

Sound's to me like you are simply growing up.

ninty9er

If you were actually a serious student who spends some time on campus and keeps abreast of campus issues you would have noticed that it isn't RAG Week anymore, it's Charity Week, so come down from your high horse, as those of us who organise the events (which take place solely on campus and in town. No official events took place in College Court last year apart from the clean up) have invested a lot of time, effort and research into rebranding to bring it back to the true meaning.

Target students by all means, but from the complaints we get regularly, the same thing goes on throughout the year, residents just chose to pick RAG week in the past as it is a big event, when the reality is that RAG week never took place in College Court or Elm Park. If you want to contend that it did, there is no basis.

If you want to complain about behaviour in the estates there are proper channels in Community Forum, VPARs Office, SU Campaigns and Services Office which houses the Community Relations Officer and Henry Street Garda Station.

Moaning without base on a web forum is only going to get people's back up, like this post.

This post, BTW, does represent ULSU.

TestTransmission

Fancy a pint OP?

RachPie

I'm a student in UL, not neceessarily a big drinker or anything either - but it really doesn't bother me. It's one week in the year, lots of money is raised for charity and this year the focus seems to be more on doing just that.

Besides, even "serious students" need to lighten up and have fun every once in a while..

Paulegend

wow op wow.

listen mate rag week yes has gone out of control but thats more to do with the idiots who are out for it and act like its their first time out drinking. thats the problem.

boycotting rag week is kinda ridiculous. rag week is a chance for you to unwind and socialise(which is important) and more importantly a chance for you to forget about exams for a week. you can be a serious student and still go out during rag week.

rag week isnt about turning over cars or breaking into houses or wrecking supermacs or any stupid chilish criminal behaviour. people who are found to have broken the law during rag week while partaking(and after partaking) in any organised college function should be dealt with by the police and also by the college. its the only way to stop it.

i agree that its become a joke to some people but to others rag week is a nice break from the stress of college.

dont boycott it just dont join the scum who are causing harm. if you dont want to partake in rag week fair enough thats your choice. but DO NOT try to force such a thing on people who are well behaved and deserve to go out and let their hair down.

streetsweeper

ninty9er wrote: »

If you were actually a serious student who spends some time on campus and keeps abreast of campus issues you would have noticed that it isn't RAG Week anymore, it's Charity Week, so come down from your high horse, as those of us who organise the events (which take place solely on campus and in town. No official events took place in College Court last year apart from the clean up) have invested a lot of time, effort and research into rebranding to bring it back to the true meaning.

Target students by all means, but from the complaints we get regularly, the same thing goes on throughout the year, residents just chose to pick RAG week in the past as it is a big event, when the reality is that RAG week never took place in College Court or Elm Park. If you want to contend that it did, there is no basis.

If you want to complain about behaviour in the estates there are proper channels in Community Forum, VPARs Office, SU Campaigns and Services Office which houses the Community Relations Officer and Henry Street Garda Station.

Moaning without base on a web forum is only going to get people's back up, like this post.

This post, BTW, does represent ULSU.

I respect this and Im glad that you are doing work to change things. I have not made any cliams against the ULSU itself but I think some students get out of hand during the week. this was not an attck on the ULSU..

ninty9er

Just to stress and hammer home the point, as it's cost me €1 every time I mention RAG week in a meeting, it's now called CHARITY WEEK .

I don't expect that to solve all the problems of the world, but over €2k has already been raised and we're a month out from Charity Week.

We have gone to great pains to stress this rebrand to off-licences and licenced premises.

wylo

OP, serious question, are you suggesting there shouldnt be a rag week, or have you an alternative idea?

Paulegend

i get the feeling that this "serious student" isnt very social

having a few years back been involved in lit rag week prep myself i know that alot of planning does go into charity events. cash raised alone by the bugee jump make it worth while.

while yes there are students who mess. it could as easily happen any time of the year. while most students are not thinking about charity during the rag wee(good idea by ul to rebrand it by the way) at least cvash is raised for worthy causes. all that thrown in with having a bit of fun...........

or maybe the OP can recomend someone who can teach us how to play world of war craft that week:D

streetsweeper

wylo wrote: »

OP, serious question, are you suggesting there shouldnt be a rag week, or have you an alternative idea?

never said that.

streetsweeper

everyones entitled to an opinion. I would consider taking part in a WoW event if one was to be organised.

its a debate thats well worth having no matter what your opnion.

Paulegend

i do admire your courage though OP. its an opinion which has made you very unpopular very fast:D

Itsdacraic

streetsweeper wrote: »

everyones entitled to an opinion. I would consider taking part in a WoW event if one was to be organised.

its a debate thats well worth having no matter what your opnion.

streetsweeper

Paulegend wrote: »

i do admire your courage though OP. its an opinion which has made you very unpopular very fast:D

I have no desire to be popular Paulegend :cool:

wylo

streetsweeper wrote: »

never said that.

never said what? Im asking you for a reason, just wondering is it a rant or do you have an alternative idea of any sort?
Thats why I said "serious question", im not having a go im just curious

PeakOutput

pretty much 90% of your post is complaining about things that you can simply ignore

the rest that mentions vandalism etc no1 advocates and supports

so grow up live your own life let everyone else live theirs and report any illegal activity you see affecting you or your property

RachPie

I catch the drift what you're saying - shouldnt be all based around alcohol and people making a mess of themselves. But surely no one can force you to drink so much that you get a lacerated liver...?!

streetsweeper

wylo wrote: »

never said what? Im asking you for a reason, just wondering is it a rant or do you have an alternative idea of any sort?
Thats why I said "serious question", im not having a go im just curious

its a moral problem in this coun try that goes far deeper then the week in question.

drinking culture in this country is out of control.

wylo

streetsweeper wrote: »

its a moral problem in this coun try that goes far deeper then the week in question.

drinking culture in this country is out of control.

so the answer is no you dont have alternative suggestions, and it is a rant. Thats grand, was just wondering.
My point is, that when you go to college, in Ireland, and in most other countries for that matter, drinking is a part of the culture. Drinking too much is almost a part of that culture. Its the one place where people finally come out of their shell and learn about drink. Its a part of being in college, but to you , its a nuisance that gets in the way of your studies etc.
It leaves with the point that college may not be for you, and that you will just have to grin and bear until you get your degree.

billy the squid

UL students against rag week?

be gone to the UL forum with ye

streetsweeper

wylo wrote: »

so the answer is no you dont have alternative suggestions, and it is a rant. Thats grand, was just wondering.
My point is, that when you go to college, in Ireland, and in most other countries for that matter, drinking is a part of the culture. Drinking too much is almost a part of that culture. Its the one place where people finally come out of their shell and learn about drink. Its a part of being in college, but to you , its a nuisance that gets in the way of your studies etc.
It leaves with the point that college may not be for you, and that you will just have to grin and bear until you get your degree.

I have a few questions of you:

are you suggesting that students should spend their grant money on drink?

are you suggesting that students need drink to come out of their shells. Are you reccommending that people should drink so they can be confident? what do you think that leads to?

Im a student thats serious about student but according to you collegee is a place for drinkers and not the studious..

hope that works out for you mate

wylo

lol, your jumping to alot of conclusions there tbh, I dont know where you are getting those questions but the answer to them is no. All im saying is that you are in wrong place , as its a part of student culture to drink. You cannot deny that, you can dislike it but you cant deny it.
And im just saying that you are gonna have to grin and bear it because thats the environment you are in. You would find the same things in the likes of Harvard

RachPie

http://theulcollective.blogspot.com/2010/02/inebriation-of-society.html

DingosAteMyBaby

Itsdacraic wrote: »

i thought the exact same thing:P

pervertedcoffee

streetsweeper wrote: »

something far more sinister.

the moral courage to stand up and speak about what they think is right. Some of the things I saw from my living room window during last years RAG week isn’t fit for print.

a vision of a post-apocalyptic Ireland.

allsorts of sinful behaviour.

It was like my house had been landed in the middle of the Biblical cities of Sodom and Gommorah. I hope I never have to face the likes of it as long as I live.

Hyper-bole much? If you want people to take your argument seriously, please be realistic about it. I'm not arguing that anything you concretely described didn't happen but the above are really unnecessary and make you look like the infamous McCarthy of the 'Red Scare'.

But I refuse to be bullied into following the ‘stat quo’

Who is bullying you and what is the 'status quo' in relation to Charity Week'? The idea of a 'status quo' and bullying surrounding a student run event is more 'hyper-bole'.

When I was in his first year in college

Please be careful of the use of the word 'his'. Also try to re-read your posts before posting, some of it made no sense and while I appreciate this is an online forum; if you are making an argument please put some effort into it.

"DRAB" (oh Im sorry I meant RAG)
I’m also sick- sick of RAG Week.

I'm not usually one to give out about peoples' writing but please don't try word play again, especially considering that the last thing you wanted to convey previous Charity Weeks as was 'drab'.

I can’t and I will not tolerate sexist remarks.

First of all, this is an example of what the organisers of Charity week have no control over and is a result of some individuals' bad taste. It happens all year round, although because these people exist there may be a slight increase in these incidents during Charity week. How it can be tackled is difficult to say because even if Charity week was made an alcohol free event those types of characters would still use the week to have house parties and cause disturbances - they would find ways and means around and preventative measure. The problem lies in peoples' attitudes.

Secondly, this is another problem with your argument. You say you "will not" yet fail to follow through with any action, or fail even to suggest a course of action or make clear that you would like suggestions. Instead you take a challenging stance yet direct it at no one or towards no end. If you just wanted a rant then the 'bitchin' thread would have been more appropriate. If you just wanted students to debate the issue then you might have been less abrasive and defined the topic a little more. If you wanted action to be taken then you might have tried suggesting something.

Had to go on medication for two weeks after I got internal bleeding in my liver so the next time you think DRAB Week is gonna be a laugh, think of me and the harm it has done to my self esteem.

What? Could you please be more coherent! What has liver damage got to do with your self-esteem? If you're going to make that point, at least make it clear. This seems to be the major flaw with your post: you are making rash and incoherent connections between thing that - to other people, have no connection at all (see my discussion on the previous quote for another example of this).
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My opinion is as follows:

I too am apprehensive about the conduct of students during Charity week as opposed to Charity week itself.

Charity week is a wonderful opportunity for the students of UL to show the wider Limerick community that we do care about them and our place in society. Ironically, so far it seems to be having the opposite effect.

Again, its all down to the students, but it seems that trying to get them to care about anything other than drinking is an impossible feat. Only the other day I saw two students with the sponsor cards for the sleep out (an idea I'm in love with btw) when one said: "Oh, it's an alcohol-free event..." The other replied in the most disappointed and disgusted tone I've heard in a while: "Are you serious?"
The sleep out could be an amazing opportunity for an outdoor, fun, diverse, alternative cultural event but instead they just want the same ol' piss-up they have week in and week out... :pac:

zuroph

was impressed with Corks approach this year (saying that I havent heard of its success rate).
They ran a long campaign along the lines of "don't be a wanker and be seen drinking in public" and did their utmost todiscourage day-time drinking. They also had a very heavy security prescence along college road, the visibility of which was designed to discourage vandalism, anti-social behaviour etc.
While the union here are at pains to point out that no official RAG week events took place in college court/elm park/etc., one would have to be very naive to claim that the two events had nothing to do with each other. While people have said the same stuff happens week in week out; a) It doesnt make it right, and b) It was clearly much worse that week.
I wish Charity week all the best, and hope it does help UL students win some respect from a cynical Limerick population, but instead of just avoiding the subjects of the off campus anti-social behaviour, it should be the first thing to be examined and planned against.

spume

pervertedcoffee wrote: »

Only the other day I saw two students with the sponsor cards for the sleep out (an idea I'm in love with btw) when one said: "Oh, it's an alcohol-free event..." The other replied in the most disappointed and disgusted tone I've heard in a while: "Are you serious?"
The sleep out could be an amazing opportunity for an outdoor, fun, diverse, alternative cultural event but instead they just want the same ol' piss-up they have week in and week out... :pac:

I intend on joining in on the sleep out myself. Bought a proper sleeping bag the other day in elvery's. When I was in there, there were a few other UL students buying sleeping bags as well but they asked one of the workers to direct them to the "lush bags". The poor girl was genuinely confused. Didn't know what they were on about.

When they finally found the sleeping bags, they called her down again and asked how many naggins they could fit in a sleeping bag. She said she didn't know. One of them replied "Well then why don't you eff off and find out for us?". Another snotted himself from the force of trying to contain his laughter.

I'll have campus security's number at the ready if those louts are attending the sleep out.

Mrmoe

The central point of the problem is that a minority of people are assholes. You will see more of it during Charity week simply because there are more people about. Drinking does not make you turn into an asshole it merely releases the asshole from within. All you need are 2 or 3 people acting the muppet and this is what catches your attention. You do not see the 100 other people doing this. This is a problem with society in general not just Charity week.

zuroph

true this, but the assholes seem to be one-upping each other lately! take a look at the vandalised cars outside Mollys on any weeknight drinking session. Or just last week, when my mate witnessed them running up and down over the roofs and bonnets of cars along Ellen street.
Regardless of whether they're a minority or not, the Union needs to realise that these are the primary reason residents give out about these events, and then stereotype all students, tarring them with the same brush. Swift, decisive action would sort this out. instilling a culture among the others to speak out about anti-social behaviour, to report crime, to stop letting these scum drag their reputations through the mud.
Rat out the marauding idiots, get them suspended/expelled and the copycats would think twice about following their lead.

PeakOutput

streetsweeper wrote: »

I have a few questions of you:

are you suggesting that students should spend their grant money on drink?

students can spend it on whatever they want its their money once the goverment gives it to them

are you suggesting that students need drink to come out of their shells.

most do in fact most people in ireland need to drink to come out of their shells, in fact id argue that most people in westernised culture do especially people under a certain age because the vast majority of people are insecure and alcohol helps with that. here more than in other places but in other places all the same

Are you reccommending that people should drink so they can be confident? what do you think that leads to?

again most people do need to drink to be confident its one of the big problems with the country not rag week

Im a student thats serious about student but according to you collegee is a place for drinkers and not the studious..

its a place for both no1 but you can stop you from being studious college is about far more than lectures and exams if you havnt realised that by now then your missing out on at least half of what college has to offer. this year im taking the more studious approach that dosnt entitle me to look down on the people who go lodging 3 nights a week you said yourself you went mad for rag week in first year so your no different to anyone else just because you were unfortunate enough to have a bad experience with your liver threw drink dosnt make you any difference accept you know your bodies limitations now. most people will never have such a problem

no1 is making you do anything. you are letting drunk people annoy you during this one particular week if you dont like how the campus is that week then dnt go to the campus study at home or go to the lectures and go straight home its one week out of the year. i dont drink that much in fact i can count on one hand the amount of times iv been drinking since halloween but i dont get bent when i see other people doing it im sure i do things that annoy them and they see as beneath them.

dont presume yourself to be better than anyone regardless of what you have seen them do because at the end of the day you dont know **** about them.

bazkennedy

I totally agree with PeakOutput on this one

Mossin

OP I understand where you are coming from, really I do, but ......

I am a serious student as well, as most of the people who post on this forum are [CSON excluded perhaps - kidding], but I know how to go out and drink up to 6 days a week, and still make all my lectures. Dont patronise people here by saying that you cant have a balance or that you cant drink and make lectures and be studious.

I have been in UL 5 years now, and each year this debate comes up. There are always people who have witnessed drunked debauchery during what used to be called RAG week. This is, as has been mentioned by others already, usually caused by the minority who dont have a fecking clue. They drink themselves stupid, and cannot remember anything that happened. If thats what they want to do, then, imo, let them at it! Thats their choice, and the rest of us can just ignore them, or let it annoy you, the latter of which appears to apply to you.

Just get on with things. You can still enjoy Charity Week, and be a good student, and you do appear to have morals, so stick to them, but dont boycott Charity Week entirely. Get involved with the Union and volunteer to collect money or something, then you may be less likely to see the unsightly things you were reluctant to speak of in your first post.

streetsweeper

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Thats it Ive had it.

I was in the library and a guy told me that he and his friends were going out to the slodge in rag week in nappies cause "if you haven't shat yourself you haven't had a good night."

This is ******* disgusting..

PeakOutput

streetsweeper wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Thats it Ive had it.

I was in the library and I guy told me that he and his friends were going out to the slodge in rag week in nappies cause "if you haven't shat yourself you haven't had a good night."

Another girl told me that her and her friends are having a "gatch-athon" and seeing (there words not mine) " who can take the most loads in one night with out it all spillin' out"..

This is ******* disgusting..

now i just think your trolling g'luck

ergonomics

streetsweeper wrote: »

Another girl told me that her and her friends are having a "gatch-athon" and seeing (there words not mine) " who can take the most loads in one night with out getting pure sore or letting it spill out"..

This is ******* disgusting..

Well it sounds to me like you need to get new friends. Especially if these friends are the ones who didn't stop you from drinking the amount you did in 1st year.

streetsweeper

PeakOutput wrote: »

now i just think your trolling g'luck

people wanted to know what instances I was referring to. and when I tell people I get accused of "trolling" whatever that means

PeakOutput

streetsweeper wrote: »

people wanted to know what instances I was referring to. and when I tell people I get accused of "trolling" whatever that means

because i dont believe you believe they were serious

and you said you saw debauched things not that you heard people talking **** about debauched instances which is what actually happened according to your own post

edit; and now you have deleted the second part of your post due to 'spelling'

pholman

Hi can i just touch on something from streetsweeper, i am irish and black in ul and certainly notice an increase in unpleasant "events" during rag week. the odd night out i might get a snide remark....but during rag week when alot of drink is consumed the levels of abuse in my eperience, certainly go up. Last year while kicking football with a few mates, i had a group of idiots drive past and throw a bananna at me screaming "juggle that...not the football monkey". Furthermore from talking to other non white students, reporting the matter to the s.u. is useless as one was told he was being too "sensitive" by an official...

streetsweeper

PeakOutput wrote: »

because i dont believe you believe they were serious

and you said you saw debauched things not that you heard people talking **** about debauched instances which is what actually happened according to your own post

edit; and now you have deleted the second part of your post due to 'spelling'

spumes post about students calling sleeping bags lush bags. is that evidence enough for you numbskull?

heres a story for you- everyone is claiming that people are calling this years event "CHARITY WEEK" well I've heard students referring to this years event as "DRINK TILL WE GET SICK WEEK", "VODKA WEEK" and "LUSHAPOLOOZA"

PeakOutput

streetsweeper wrote: »

spumes post about students calling sleeping bags lush bags. is that evidence enough for you numbskull?

evidence of what exactly? students talking ****e and you taking it overboard? yes

heres a story for you- everyone is claiming that people are calling this years event "CHARITY WEEK" well I've heard students referring to this years event as "DRINK TILL WE GET SICK WEEK", "VODKA WEEK" and "LUSHAPOLOOZA"

no thats not what people are claiming the su are not running a 'rag week' they are running a 'charity week' people can call it whatever they want its going to take the su more than a semester to rebrand rag week.

again how does anyone elses drinking during this week affect you? leaving out illegal behaviour because no1 agrees with that. you can still go to lectures and go to the library and study in your room.

streetsweeper

pholman wrote: »

Hi can i just touch on something from streetsweeper, i am irish and black in ul and certainly notice an increase in unpleasant "events" during rag week. the odd night out i might get a snide remark....but during rag week when alot of drink is consumed the levels of abuse in my eperience, certainly go up. Last year while kicking football with a few mates, i had a group of idiots drive past and throw a bananna at me screaming "juggle that...not the football monkey". Furthermore from talking to other non white students, reporting the matter to the s.u. is useless as one was told he was being too "sensitive" by an official...

try and defend THIS all of you who seem to think that drinking in excess is acceptable. i hope your all proud of yourselves. why dont we just change the name to "racist week" altogether?? I dont like the right wing direction that "charity week" seems to be going in.

streetsweeper

streetsweeper wrote: »

try and defend THIS all of you who seem to think that drinking in excess is acceptable. i hope your all proud of yourselves. why dont we just change the name to "racist week" altogether?? I dont like the right wing direction that "charity week" seems to be going in.

it seems that somebodies "PEAK OUTPUT" isn't loud enough to drown out the voices of the oppressed and the undermined who are only asking for others peoples freedoms not to enfringe on their own personal freedoms.

entropic

Hahaha EPIC Thread,

But seriously streetsweeper does bring up valid points that should be addressed, this Charity Week (RAG Week to the rest of the student population no matter what you thing SU) I will go into lectures and be forced to sit there with one other person who was sober the night before. Then for the rest of the day we will have to put up with the god awful smell of last nights escapades that I can only assume ended in some form of giant garbage hold.

Then of course will come the back lash, for the next few weeks we will here about how yet again a few students have marred the name of the college with some drunken antics like setting some cars on fire or waling into families houses at 5am and scaring the sh*t out of children. Maybe this year if there are events similar to last years then it's time to cancel RAG week for a year to try and teach students that their actions have consequences(you'd think they would know that already). Maybe then there could be talk of a Charity or RAG week where we wont fear the **** who ruin the week for everyone else.

PeakOutput

streetsweeper wrote: »

i hope your all proud of yourselves.

im very proud of myself individuals racism has nothing to do with me and it is indefensible we have already gone over this

it seems that somebodies "PEAK OUTPUT" isn't loud enough to drown out the voices of the oppressed and the undermined who are only asking for others peoples freedoms not to enfringe on their own personal freedoms.

you have absolutely got to be taking the piss im not trying to drown out anyone, not even you im jsut disagreeing with your over the top reaction and broad tarring brush

rmacm

streetsweeper wrote: »

spumes post about students calling sleeping bags lush bags. is that evidence enough for you numbskull?

It says a lot about someone when they aren't capable of making an argument without resorting to name calling. spume also stated he'd have a phone number for campus security in case people like that show up, pretty responsible behaviour in my book.

streetsweeper wrote: »

heres a story for you- everyone is claiming that people are calling this years event "CHARITY WEEK" well I've heard students referring to this years event as "DRINK TILL WE GET SICK WEEK", "VODKA WEEK" and "LUSHAPOLOOZA"

Who cares what other people are calling it. You claim you that you won't be bullied into following a "status quo" for Charity/Rag week (whatever it's called) so why should it bother you what other people are calling it. If you want to go to your lectures, tutorials and labs and not drink during rag week then go ahead and do that. If you feel like going out for a few pints then go and do that. If you see something you don't like then report it to the proper people e.g. police, SU etc.

To be blunt there's **** all point complaining about it on here because you're pretty much preaching to the converted.

PeakOutput

entropic wrote: »

I will go into lectures and be forced to sit there with one other person who was sober the night before.

seriously i dont get this attitude who,exactly now i want a name, is forcing you to do anything you dont want to do.

teach students that their actions have consequences

thats the gardais jobs though any student doing anything like you described should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no1 is arguing otherwise.

Mossin

streetsweeper wrote: »

try and defend THIS all of you who seem to think that drinking in excess is acceptable. i hope your all proud of yourselves. why dont we just change the name to "racist week" altogether?? I dont like the right wing direction that "charity week" seems to be going in.

Nobody here has defended drinking in excess! I think you need to calm down, take a breath, count to ten or something, before you start replying in haste each time!

The ridiculous actions of some fool who made racist comments does not give you the right to say we are all racists!!

You have made some good and valid points, but you are quickly making people lose interest in what you have to say, as the validity of what you say appears to be exaggerated each time you post.

And as for those who are forced to go to classes and sit beside the person who is hungover... you can move you know!! Sit away from the person. At least that person is trying to enjoy themselves and also make as much college as they can. This type of behaviour happens everyday of the week, and is not confined to RAG week, so get real here.

entropic

PeakOutput wrote: »

seriously i dont get this attitude who,exactly now i want a name, is forcing you to do anything you dont want to do.

MS4404 Lecturer who insists on holding important lectures during RAG week. By all means I would love for you to go to my lecturers who have 5-15% for attendance and have habits for giving tips out during RAG week and get them to stop.
While your at it would you mind getting my Labs rescheduled too because thats always been a bitch at least in lectures you get out after an hours and can get some fresh air. Labs I'm stuck in for 3-4 hours.

PeakOutput wrote: »

thats the gardais jobs though any student doing anything like you described should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no1 is arguing otherwise.

Well then I would like to see them prosecuted but that doesn't seem to happen, every year there are new stories about how people who wreck the place get slaps on the wrist and have to write a most insincere apology note. There is a knowledge around that if you get caught doing anything untoward during RAG week that a quick I'm sorry and I won't do it again Garda will get you off the hook.

pholman

I think maybe if the su took some of complaints my friends have made onboard people might be made aware that racism is unacceptable, despite it being rag week and as one member of the su was heard saying "only a bit of craic" . well if thats what students are calling craic 4 rag week i think il have to agree with streetsweeper and disagree with output and say i wish the hell of rag week gets cancelled...

ergonomics

pholman wrote: »

I think maybe if the su took some of complaints my friends have made onboard people might be made aware that racism is unacceptable, despite it being rag week and as one member of the su was heard saying "only a bit of craic" . well if thats what students are calling craic 4 rag week i think il have to agree with streetsweeper and disagree with output and say i wish the hell of rag week gets cancelled...

I don't think everyone realises that the officers in the Union change pretty much every year. If someone made a complaint last year and it wasn't dealt with, it doesn't mean the same thing will happen this year. People change and people have different attitudes. That said, I refuse to believe that such a serious issue was dealt with so dismissively.