Michael Murray - Allowed To Live Where He Wants?

OutlawPete

Michael Murray was hounded out of Temple Bar and now another town again last night.

Callers on Joe Duffy (as they were two weeks ago) now saying they are having vigils and got him moved again last night.

Do you think he should be allowed to live where he wants?

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/serial-rapistrsquos-release-sparks-security-alert-1824984.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCiqb1m1I

petes

To be honest I don't know who he is.

petes

OutlawPete wrote: »

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/serial-rapistrsquos-release-sparks-security-alert-1824984.html

Fcuk.

connundrum

Surely not Conrad Michael Murray?

Alleged killer of Michael Jackson?!

walshb

Hate to make a prediction, but this dog will strike again and again and again....
He is diseased....

Conundrum: Living in your area, would you take him out, and I don't mean on a date....

sorrywhat

Michael Murray (49), who was released from Castlerea Prison this morning, has been described by senior gardai as "extremely dangerous".

If the gardai are saying that..... em no.

WindSock

It's not that he isn't allowed live where he wants, it's that no one wants him living near them.

Squiggle

Consecutive sentences = problem solved. Concurrent sentences are a fúckin joke.:mad:

OutlawPete

WindSock wrote: »

It's not that he isn't allowed live where he wants, it's that no one wants him living near them.

Yes, but the authorities are moving him on the back of this.

SV

He shouldn't be allowed to live, let alone where he wants.

Wazdakka

sorrywhat wrote: »

Michael Murray (49), who was released from Castlerea Prison this morning, has been described by senior gardai as "extremely dangerous".

Why the hell are they letting him out then?

With a history like that this guys only chance is to change his name and maybe leave the country.

Trashbat

Is he being electronically tagged?

To be honest, if the police believe he is such a threat, I'm sure there will be extensive presence dedicated to his every move.

I think i'm safe enough where i am though, the teenagers would stab him before he got a chance to reoffend.

Nodin

OutlawPete wrote: »

Michael Murray was hounded out of Temple Bar and now another town again last night.

Callers on Joe Duffy (as they were two weeks ago) now saying they are having vigils and got him moved again last night.

Do you think he should be allowed to live where he wants?

No.

I'd rather have that decided by Judicial review than a mob and joe poxy duffy though.

walshb

Wazdakka wrote: »

Why the hell are they letting him out then?

With a history like that this guys only chance is to change his name and maybe leave the country.

Because most of the time the Justice system favours the criminal and not society.
It's not at all unusual this. It's commonplace.

sorrywhat

Its just plain fcuking stupid leaving him out again in the first place.

The last time he raped 4 girls in 6 days.

NothingMan

We should organise a linch mob and give him the kind of justice his first ever victim deserved 25 years ago. Scum like him don't deserve jail time. A quick bullet to the head would have been more appropriate. We do it to a rabid dog without thinking twice. This guy's way worse.

OutlawPete

Nodin wrote: »

and joe poxy duffy though.

Joe Duffy was actually not joining the Mob for once. He said:

"Where will this stop though, the guy has to live somewhere".

Auvers

http://www.studentsmart.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/news.jpg

just in case you get a new neighbour

alwaysadub

I wouldn't want him living anywhere near me anyway.
Its for people like him we should be able to know if a sex offender is living beside us like they do in America and England.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Said it before, saying it again. Judges should have an option to grant that the criminal, if still deemed to be a dangerous risk upon completion of a sentence, be held in a secure mental facility indefinitely if he is still deemed a danger to society.

He has a plce to live, women are safe(r), everyone wins.

Biggins

"Concurrent terms" are a friggin' twisted joke of a sentence.

bonerm

Perhaps he could rent a room above a Dublin head-shop (are there any left? ). I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.

Peglegged wrote: »

http://www.studentsmart.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/news.jpg

just in case you get a new neighbour

Thanks! As a bonus he'll be easy to spot with all the Herald tatoos on his face. I have my own favourite newspaper but I don't think I could make such a public demonstration of my loyalty.

Auvers

bonerm wrote: »

Thanks! As a bonus he'll be easy to spot with all the Herald tatoos on his face. I have my own favourite newspaper but I don't think I could make such a public demonstration of my loyalty.

who give a sh1te what watermark is on the image at least people will be able to ID the pr1ck

I dont think I have looked at the Herald in the past 10 years never mind bought the rag

OutlawPete

bonerm wrote: »

Thanks! As a bonus he'll be easy to spot with all the Herald tatoos on his face. I have my own favourite newspaper but I don't think I could make such a public demonstration of my loyalty.

Wonder if he received any fan mail from women.

There is quite a phenomena of killers like this getting tons of female admirers writing to them.

Remember an interview with Ted Bundy's warden years ago where he said that Ted received sack loads of letters from women sending him photos and their panties.

Too weird.

OutlawPete

Peglegged wrote: »

who give a sh1te what watermark is on the image

It was a joke.

My name is URL

I wonder how much Garda protection he'll be granted because of our fcuked up judiciary system..

Tmeos

No

I doubt many will agree with me but I think he's served his time, he's been judged to no longer be a threat to society and will be supervised closely by the gardai and probation. I think he should be left alone.

I have huge sympathy for the victims of this guy but I cant get on board with this tabloid vigilante mentality.

beans

No

If he no longer presents a danger to the public, then yes he should be able to live wherever he pleases.

If he's still considered to be a danger to the public, then why is he not still in prison?

So yes, let him live wherever - but if and when he rapes someone again, we can all use the case to ensure that prisoners who are deemed to be a risk not be released, or that sentences act as a valid deterrent. Some of the jail-terms for rapists would make one despair.

My name is URL

Tmeos wrote: »

I doubt many will agree with me but I think he's served his time, he's been judged to no longer be a threat to society and will be supervised closely by the gardai and probation. I think he should be left alone.

I have huge sympathy for the victims of this guy but I cant get on board with this tabloid vigilante mentality.

Did you read the article linked to in an earlier post? He's a recidivist, he was not judged to be no longer a threat.. Even the Gardai acknowledge how dangerous he still is

bonerm

OutlawPete wrote: »

Wonder if he received any fan mail from women.

There is quite a phenomena of killers like this getting tons of female admirers writing to them.

Remember an interview with Ted Bundy's warden years ago where he said that Ted received sack loads of letters from women sending him photos and their panties.

Yeah but Ted Bundy was an eloquent, good looking man. He also defended himself in court and put on a good performance by all accounts.

FYI Charles Manson is the most written-to man in America. Once again a very eloquent fella with clear intelligence on display. Had a harem of of women following and killing for him.

Same again with guys like Jim Jones and David Koresh.

Once you have the gift of the gab you really have a tool in your arsenal with the ladies, doesn't matter what kind of psycho or sick fúck you are.

Auvers

OutlawPete wrote: »

It was a joke.

oh right I get it now

must be all the solpadeine I have taken today, a bit slow on the uptake :pac:

Hank_Jones

They should just let him and the rest of those kinds live in a rocket.

And then they can fire that rocket into the sun.

Tmeos

No

My name is URL wrote: »

Did you read the article linked to in an earlier post? He's a recidivist, he was not judged to be no longer a threat.. Even the Gardai acknowledge how dangerous he still is

I did read it and regardless of how the herald want to sensationalise it he would not be released and certainly not released early if he was seen as someone who will re-offend. I'm not saying its impossible he will re-offend, Im just saying that professionals with a lot more experience of the criminal psyche than you have obviously decided he is not a threat.

bazmaiden

Hey Outlaw pete maybe you should write in the original post that he is a SERIAL RAPIST!!!

I thought it was the guy who used to present Winning Streak

Nodin

OutlawPete wrote: »

Joe Duffy was actually not joining the Mob for once. He said:

"Where will this stop though, the guy has to live somewhere".

Fair enough, never let it be said. The comment about "mob" and rathering judicial review stands though.

Biggins

Tmeos wrote: »

I did read it and regardless of how the herald want to sensationalise it he would not be released and certainly not released early if he was seen as someone who will re-offend. I'm not saying its impossible he will re-offend, Im just saying that professionals with a lot more experience of the criminal psyche than you have obviously decided he is not a threat.

Someone will correct me if I am wrong but he was sent to a prison - not a treatment centre?
So he served out his time?
He could be still bark raving mad for all we know but according to the letter of the law, he has to be released?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

OutlawPete wrote: »

Joe Duffy was actually not joining the Mob for once. He said:

"Where will this stop though, the guy has to live somewhere".

You're kidding...?! First AH becomes politically left/libertarian and now Joe Duffy stand up for a serial rapist? ****, there'll be naked gay marraiges at the end of the year by this rate!!

tracey turnblad

Ok...Micheal Murray was living across the road from me in Smithfield...not temple bar. the residents wanted him out...and if you want to use the word 'hounded' so be it. If you want to invite him to your area and wrap him up in cotton wool go ahead...or maybe Joe duffy might buy the house next door to him for Micheal? Anyways...as far as I know he is still there and the locla residents including myself will be standing out again trying to get rid of him.

Mr. Presentable

I think that someone who has offended against society as this guy has done relinquishes the right to be a member of said society. Spike Island ftw

Hank_Jones

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You're kidding...?! First AH becomes politically left/libertarian and now Joe Duffy stand up for a serial rapist? ****, there'll be naked gay marraiges at the end of the year by this rate!!

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :cool:

Kess73

So basically an individual that senior gardai have described as extremely dangerous and likely to re-offend, was released 5 years early on an 18 year sentence.

A man who has been charged of multiple cases of raping people, assaulting people, exposing himself to young children, plus a number of other violent and sexual crimes.


A man who when last released, after being locked up for rape and assaualt, raped four women and attacked two others, all within a six days period.

And all that is only what he is known to have done.

His track record suggest that he will strike again, and most likely over and over. Maybe this time around he will have learned not to leave his victims alive and to be smarter in covering his tracks.

phasers

He should be sent to live in a seminary

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :cool:

Oh, I agree - I meant that in a positive way. About time the country grew up!

OutlawPete

bazmaiden wrote: »

Hey Outlaw pete maybe you should write in the original post that he is a SERIAL RAPIST!!!

Link added to OP.

Dempo1

No

Theres a lot of justified hysteria about this subject in the media at the moment, just this afternoon that Buffoon Joe Duffy entertained further debate on the subject. Michael Murray is clearly a danger to the Public and i have little sympathy for him, however i can't agree at the way he has been hounded in the media and society in General, i was particularly appalled at the recent press photographs of Gardai entering his apartment, this was staged and completely wrong. My opinion for what it is worth would be such criminals should have restrictions placed on them and perhaps centers or shelters should be provided for such offenders for a period of time after release. Its no good releasing these offenders into society without follow up monitoring, no one gains from this. He like other released prisoners have to live somewhere but equally communities need to be assured of safety. I am absolutely not defending this animal, but something has to be sorted out, he can't continue to be moved from house to house, location to location, it will never end with the state ultimately footing the bill.

WindSock

phasers wrote: »

He should be sent to live in a seminary

True that. Keep him with the rest of the lads.

He was working in a hospital garden recently too. But quit himself.

But of course men never change, do they?

meditraitor

He should be monitored 24/7, if he moved to my area I would have no problem doing whatever it takes to move him on/out. Animals like that should be in a cage and not near any potential victims which in his case is half the population..... Spike island could be reopened just for him

OutlawPete

phasers wrote: »

He should be sent to live in a seminary

Phasers, that sounds like a great idea for the plot of a movie.

I reckon you put pen to paper and get this screenplay written.

I'll help fund it.

Who'll we get to play Murray though?? ....Hhhmmmmm.

bazmaiden

meditraitor wrote: »

Spike island could be reopened just for him

Peodo Paradise?

OutlawPete

WindSock wrote: »

But of course men never change, do they?

:eek:

...

WindSock

OutlawPete wrote: »

:eek:

...

Well...do they? (not just men btw, people)