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Lvl 60+ really slow leveling

  • 17-02-2010 12:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭


    the speed at which I was leveling dropped when I hit 60. Does anyone have tips on leveling fast in outland??

    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    Sit in the LFG queue for random dungeons. Better obviously if you're a tank, or even if you're a healer (you'll get groups faster), but even as dps it's still worth it.

    If you're in the middle of a gather quest or kill quest, or on your way somewhere, when you're done you'll end up right back where you were.

    Outside of that, head down, get some good tunes on, and *edit* start the grind *edit*

    Note - I also recommend trying to do random dungeons as soon as you can hitting 60 (outland), and try to stay about 1 level above the quests you're doing. You get slightly less XP, but you mostly complete them faster (kill quests take up the majority of the ones in outland).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ' wrote:
    [cEMAN**;64505935']Sit in the LFG queue for random dungeons. Better obviously if you're a tank, or even if you're a healer (you'll get groups faster), but even as dps it's still worth it.

    If you're in the middle of a gather quest or kill quest, or on your way somewhere, when you're done you'll end up right back where you were.

    Outside of that, head down, get some good tunes on, and start grinding.

    Note - I also recommend trying to do random dungeons as soon as you can hitting 60 (outland), and try to stay about 1 level above the quests you're doing. You get slightly less XP, but you mostly complete them faster (kill quests take up the majority of the ones in outland).
    Grinding? Killing Trash Mobs? Not Questing?

    Maybe that works for you but to each their own. Theres way more exp. to gain from the quests in each zone.

    I did all or most of Hellfire, all or most of Zangamarsh, and most of Terrokar. By the time I had gotten more than halfway through Terrokar, I was already 69 and ready to hit Borean Tundra where I shot up to 71 and Howling Fjord to 72.

    I spent less than 2 weeks in outland and barely did any dungeons. though there was a healthy obsession with Alterac Valley BG.

    The times I've leveled the fastest OP are when I picked one zone I liked and cleared it. Azuremyst, Bloodymyst [with the tab to show for it!], Duskwood, Stranglethorn, Hinterlands, Tanaris, Plaguelands, etc. this wowwiki page was the only leveling guide I used: http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    I meant grinding through quests. Either way, killing mobs or doing quests, becomes a necessary repetition (unless you're interested in the quest story lines).

    Therefore it becomes the grind.

    I guess most people have just gotten used to wow terms, so the sentence on its own would have multiple meanings. That's why I made multiple references to questing.

    I should have said to 'start the grind'.

    By the way, you don't have to do every quest in an area to move past it. If you're in the queue for dungeons while questing, you should be getting a nice boost. As I mentioned about trying to stay about 1 level above the quests you're doing, when you move a few levels above them, unless they're parts to a larger quest chain with massive amounts of XP and nice end rewards, feel free to abandon some.

    Questhelper is handy, including the directional arrow, but I would also suggest Lightheaded - it's shows you the full quest line of the quests you're on. That way if you see a quest is a stand alone (it also has comments to say if it links onto quests outside of the chain), and it's green, you can feel comfortable dumping it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Columc


    Quest helper is a life saver in outland I think. I think the best places for quick quests and easy kills would be hellfire, zangermarsh and Nagrand and then netherstorm. I just never liked terrok forest, blades edge or shadowmoon valley questing.

    Always be in the que for LFG dungeons they alway give a good xp boost for the time doing them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    i always make sure to pick up the quests for dungeons too. probably more beneficial for loot than for direct xp, but then decent gear will let you level faster anyway.
    i always park my toon in an inn, and almost always have the double xp bonus going as a result
    then again i'm not even level 60 yet so what do i know eh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Noxin


    Last time I did 60-70 I remember it being extremely fast and that was without any heirloom items.
    As others said, try to get into random instances. Those especially in Hellfire. They are very quick to run through and provide a good amount of XP.
    Running these a few times each at the beginning will get you nice gear and put you a bit ahead of the current quest levels for when you cant get a group (which should be rare now anyway)
    I know I did all quests in Hellfire before moving anywhere. After this I went to Zangamarsh and did the same here (until I got the achi in both places)
    Tried to get any Zanga instances out of the way also.
    After Zanga I hit Terrok and again finished all or as many quests as I could (think some were a bit high or tough elites that I couldn't solo).
    Then finished up in Nagrand.
    By the time I was done in Nagrand I was 70 or very close. If needed, hit BE mountains for some easy kill quests for XP.

    Leveling a mage atm. Only 38 atm but will basically be following my own advice above when I hit 60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    I used this guide the first time i did a char to 80 (started two weeks before WOTLK)

    http://www.wow-pro.com/leveling_guides/james_horde_leveling_guide

    There is an addon version too now. All free.

    I enjoyed the guide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    Big +1 for the LFG queue. The OL dungeons aren't as long as the later Vanilla instances, you can run through the Hellfire Ramparts and Blood Furnace a few times in an evening.


    I think once the excitment of dinging 58 and getting to Hellfire has worn off, then it is quite a grind. I cleared all the quests in HP on the first char I sent through the Blasted Portal, and I was absolutely sick of it by the time I handed in the last one. There's a burst of good quest rewards once you start, and getting the flying mount at 60 is a good motivator, but after that it gets a bit lame.

    Most of the OL zones are for similar levels, Zangarmarsh an Nagrand are both mid 60s, and Terokkar/Auchindon are about the same as well, so if you don't like a zone there are alternatives. I prefer Nagrand to Zangarmarsh for questing. I haven't done much in Blade's Edge/Silvermoon yet.

    You'll only be in Outland till 68, I reckon by the time I've complete the quests in Nagrand I should be ready to go. Nagradn also has the Nesingwary quests, which seem to be much easier than the STV quest chain.

    It's also worthwhile to level up your skinning/mining/herbing in Nagrand as well, so you can hit the ground runnig in Borean Tundra or Howling Fjord (whichever is for 68s)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Columc wrote: »
    Quest helper is a life saver in outland I think. I think the best places for quick quests and easy kills would be hellfire, zangermarsh and Nagrand and then netherstorm. I just never liked terrok forest, blades edge or shadowmoon valley questing.
    Hellfire and Zangermarsh are definitely pretty good. Nagrand though seems to have a much higher proportion of 'kill x mobs' quests which take longer than others and also group quests, which these days it'll be tough enough to find a group for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    you can do 60-70 in a couple of days playing easily (not /played days).

    Im terrible at leveling, so i use zygors guide with the built in quest helper(sincce cartographer doesnt work).

    Its the best guide imo. Its mindless wow, it tells you what to do and you do it, you buy stuff 5 levels in advance in one zone, then end up handing it in later to get great xp for 2 seconds work.

    as iceman said tho, dungeons. If you go out of sync with zygors, its a pain in the arse. You should be a certain level by the time you pick up other quests, and dungeons with the new dungeon finder is the way to go to catch up on it.

    and eh, the sure fire way to make leveling easy.... GET A FLYinG MOUnt1!11

    srs bsns.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Keep questing, there is no faster way.

    Get yourself though hellfire, then zangarmarsh, and then a little through nagrand and you should be 68.

    Took me about 4 days really casually to do it.

    There is literally no faster way. GEt yourself into the LFG only when you pick up the dungeon quests as they are monster xp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    and eh, the sure fire way to make leveling easy.... GET A FLYinG MOUnt1!11
    +67


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Overheal wrote: »
    +67

    You can get a flying mount at 60....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    TheDoc wrote: »
    You can get a flying mount at 60....

    And you can get cold weather flying at 70 now too (or is it 73?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I was saying +1....but....- you know what, nevermind.

    72 for your alts red ice. else its 78.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    It's OK Overheal, some of us got it! :)

    You know what costs a load of time? Group quests. Nothing ruins a nice optimised QH route around a map like having to find someone else to help you complete a 2 or 3 person task. Sure, you can go back later, but it's time better spent elsewhere...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    red_ice wrote: »
    And you can get cold weather flying at 70 now too (or is it 73?)

    I have cold weather flying on my mage alt.

    Who is level 68 in northrend.

    Buy the boa tome and pass it on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2 Espressi wrote: »
    It's OK Overheal, some of us got it! :)

    You know what costs a load of time? Group quests. Nothing ruins a nice optimised QH route around a map like having to find someone else to help you complete a 2 or 3 person task. Sure, you can go back later, but it's time better spent elsewhere...
    I can handle 2 player quests as a tank easy :cool: or at least i could as late as TBC.

    Else its easy to Pug it with someone you find in general chat.

    Stupid Guild rookie asked us for group help so I go Yes Im on my way! Lets get this 80 buddy of mine to help! But we get there, the guy DC, pops back in, goes Waaaagh my Questhelper addon isnt working, what do I do now?!

    So yeah, if you want someone's help on a group quest at least attempt it yourself so you at least know what youre meant to be doing. I can at least sometimes say "Yeah I could almost do this myself but a Healer/DPS/Tank would be great."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭dyl10


    Get quest helper + gather up all available quests in each quest hub + do those quests = success + lots and lots of gold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Rested Exp ftw. But if your in a hurry forget about that.

    Always do the seasonal dailies, max exp for little effort, plus the pots/buffs you get make lvling easier.

    Get friends to boost you in Hellfire in the dungeons, this again is max exp for little or no effort. Same go's for the other area dungeons. Also make sure to get the quests for the dungeon's. The lower lvl you are doing the dungeon's the better when getting a boost.

    Bg's are great, Alterac especially. 2 Alterac is pretty much 1/2 lvl's.

    As stated grinding for 2-3 hours doing quests will get you a couple of lvl's.

    I'm lvling a rogue atm purely for Enchanting/Tailoring (he is 63 from 60, after 2 nights boosting with rested exp, total of about 4 hours). Soon as he hits 65 its off the Northrend to max both profs with mats ive collected with other toons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    In regards addons to help, Carbonite, without a doubt, just go and get it.
    http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12965-Carbonite.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭HereticPrincess


    Definitly worth queing for randoms. Great XP to be had in those.
    While in the queue, try do all of the group quests in Nagrand.

    Like the Talbuk, Rhino & Windroc Mastery quests are sure to be quite helpful. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    Solo'd the three of these last night, took a couple of tries, some tracking and some tactical use of totems to get each one, but I managed it in the end. Tried Tusker a few times, but not having much luck with her, and I had to bail before one of the lads was free to give me a hand.

    I've discovered there's a slow fall cape I can get in Terokkar that requires a bit of rep grinding so I think I'll have a crack at that as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Shamanhattan

    Give me a holler when ever im online, and ill come help with grp quests. I genereally log on in the evenings, do my dailies and then just muck about doing something comletely pointless anyways.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    Nice one Shou, thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Shougeki wrote: »
    Shamanhattan

    then just muck about doing something comletely pointless anyways.....

    Example. 172 qs from loremaster. Why? No f'ing clue. :P

    Ill be online anyways from 6:30ish tonight till late. havent played much in recent days due to other ..... issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    Got this last night, by accident. Logged in, and a random L65 DK happened to be in the same spot as I was, looking for aged Clefthoofs or something, and we killed Tusker in no time at all!

    I'm mid-Level67 now, so I got the blimp to Northrend. Looks like I can handle the mobs, they're all 68-69, and the skinning seems good, so I think I'll farm scraps/leathers till I'm 68 and pick up a few quests then (Quest "!"s are all greyed out at the moment). I'm guessing there's an introductory quest chain in Warsong Hold, similar to the Hellfire quests in TBC?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭hk797


    2 Espressi wrote: »
    I'm guessing there's an introductory quest chain in Warsong Hold, similar to the Hellfire quests in TBC?

    When you ding 68 go back to where the zep arrives in Warsong Hold and pickup the feeder quest from the NPC - this sends you downstairs and opens up 2 quest chains all soloable which ultimately leads to these rewards - checkout the comments for quests required to be completed - this weapon will do you until lvl 75 and the Ring of Blood style event chain in Zul Drak - this weapon will serve you til 80.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I remember absolutly flying up from 68 as my Rogue. Got some sweet fist weapons (one from Nexus, other from quest) and looked like a badass for quite a few levels. Definitely a major improvement over the Outland area's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 irishstu


    I find the heirloom items pretty useful - got the two leather ones for my hunter and druid alts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    I think they are great. Used the leather for leveling my druid.

    Started a warlock, and have both cloths, the staff and two trinkets, which make leveling 20% faster, less downtime (he is currently using the health and spellpower trinkets as i forgot to buy a second SP one). They do scale quite well with level.

    Started a shaman too, and im just going to use the shadowcraft shoulders and tunic for now, with a hammer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Your talking as if its a new discovery.

    If you have an 80 char, and your levelling a new alt wihtout the heirlooms, your an absolute lunatic?!??!?!!?!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    No everyone has time to farm 300+ badges to get the heirlooms though. And other people just cant stand leveling alts, like me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Yeah I wouldn't be bothered at all levelling another alt but I just always wanted a Druid so I'll stick with it. God awful tedious though, I've been through the levelling area's so many times it just get's so boring. I break the monotany up with levelling herbalism and mining on the Druid and playing the AH every now and again (currently 4k gold on the Druid) to help with getting the gold for the Artisan riding skill for the improved flight form at 70.

    Read something somewhere that you can get it (level 70 flight form and artisan riding) on the Druid via an instance, thereby saving the gold needed but I'd be feckin years waiting for a pug.

    Would love to break up the questing crap with AV but there's just maybe 1 or 2 AV's a day at this level (61-70) and I'm hearing it's the same now for 71+ AV so I guess I'll be banging my head against the wall a lot more in the days to come going through the same quests I did so many times before on other alts :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Nehaxak wrote: »
    Read something somewhere that you can get it (level 70 flight form and artisan riding) on the Druid via an instance, thereby saving the gold needed but I'd be feckin years waiting for a pug.
    I'd be up for it on my druid who's 69. The final part of the quest is in heroic Shattered Halls, so it'd be easy enough if we hijack a level 80 with the key to come.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Cool, I'll hold you to that so and hit you up for a group once I've levelled that far myself :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    I'm guessing that's for Druids only?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    The quest is yeah but the group would more than welcome any others for sure :)

    If I'm right also, there's some deadly mount that drops from the last boss also, which of course all will roll on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2 Espressi wrote: »
    I'm guessing that's for Druids only?
    Druid Flight Morph, yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11001

    ^^ Posting for reference later when required :)

    Mount the boss drops...

    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32768


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Actually, arse to it, turns out you still need to pay for the Artisan riding skill no matter what :( This quest was just the requirement you had to do for the 280% swift flight form in the past, now you can just learn it from a trainer either way.

    That's a pity, guess I'll have to keep saving up gold for the riding skill regardless.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I really want to level a Druid too, but i'm gonna hold off till Cata and roll one then to try the new zones. Will be decked out in Heirlooms as well :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Kiith wrote: »
    I really want to level a Druid too, but i'm gonna hold off till Cata and roll one then to try the new zones. Will be decked out in Heirlooms as well :P
    There may be better looms in Cataclysm :p


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Overheal wrote: »
    There may be better looms in Cataclysm :p
    Lego Loom!

    lego-loom.jpg


    Ahh Google, is there anything you can't do :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Im gonna make a goblin priest when Cataclysm comes along. And maybe a Tauren(?) paladin.

    Always wanted to play a pala but cant stand blood elves.

    Im really looking forward to the entire place being shook up for cataclysm. will make leveling fun again. I personally wanna play different classes, not even just at 80, and end game, but atm, having leveled 5 or 6 toons through vanilla, and 4 through TBC, and then 3 through WOTLK, it gets very repetitive...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Nehaxak wrote: »
    Actually, arse to it, turns out you still need to pay for the Artisan riding skill no matter what :( This quest was just the requirement you had to do for the 280% swift flight form in the past, now you can just learn it from a trainer either way.

    That's a pity, guess I'll have to keep saving up gold for the riding skill regardless.
    True, but it's worth it for a shot at the mount, and it's probably soloable with decent gear at 80.

    As for levelling in general, I find it's better to make it a bit more interesting yourself by changing the way you do it. e.g. I had a BM hunter which (though easy) was incredibly boring while levelling. I respecced to survival and ditched the pet completely and now it's a lot more interesting. Same goes for when I was levelling my mage. Switched to only killing things by AoE grinding them which made it a lot more fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    Never though of doing that with my hunter, though it's something I do with the shaman all the time, healing pugs, and Rdpsing through quests...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Thing I did with my DK for a load of levels was just constantly farm for the captured firefly pets from the bogflare needler mobs in Zangamarsh.

    http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20197

    If I remember rightly, 4 of them dropped in total, which payed for the artisan flying skill.

    Not sure what they sell for these days though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    There's a quest in BT where you get [Pouch of Crushed Bloodspore] which allows you to fight L71 elites as regular L69s, though you still get the XP at the L71E rate. I managed half a level after just a couple of runs through the cave.


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