E&S and the SU

lithiumoxide · 13-02-2010 8:31pm #1

I hear E&S have been disbanded by the SPC, yet people are complaining to the SU, and don't seem to be listening when they are being told that the SU has nothing to do with it.

If a society breaks the rules, they will be reprimanded, no matter how much people liked them. And if the rules were broken, maybe the members should direct complaints and requests for explanations to the (former?) committee?

Conor

Hauk · 13-02-2010 8:49pm

Failsoc tbh.

Landa2 · 13-02-2010 8:54pm

I have to agree, this is all pretty hilarious, they are mounting some kind of mini revolt on Facebook atm.. Against the Students Union of all bodies.. They have nothing to do with societies on campus.

You cant break the rules and expect to be let off with a slap on the wrist, whatever about the small rules but what is effectively embezzlement of SPC funding..

barnacle · 13-02-2010 8:57pm

Missing: Capitation funds. Last seen in Budapest. If found please return to SPC.

doylema3 · 13-02-2010 9:10pm

so what exactly did they do? it says on fb they stole money. any extra details?

TheChrisD · 13-02-2010 9:14pm

About time the SPC found a reason to get rid of that drinking soc in disguise...

I presume everyone who's complaining about it were only ever in E&S and never joined any other real proper societies.

barnacle · 13-02-2010 9:16pm

doylema3 wrote: »

so what exactly did they do? it says on fb they stole money. any extra details?

They stole money. And they seem to be complaining about being punished for this.

Hauk · 13-02-2010 9:18pm

They stole a JCB and jacked the ATM in the hub. Fecking feral gangs running the country into the ground.

barnacle · 13-02-2010 9:19pm

They stole all the marshmallows from the inter-faith center.

damo darko · 13-02-2010 9:24pm

doylema3 wrote: »

so what exactly did they do? it says on fb they stole money. any extra details?

LOTs but boards is not the time or place for
such a public conversation about how certain people have behaved
it is not respectful of them to ask such a hainous cry to divulge
damaging private details of those i assume you are trying to
stand up for and do right by.....you sir....are an idiot

gizmo · 13-02-2010 11:42pm

Unless I can get some proof of this announcement I'm afraid I'll have to lock this thread shortly folks.

Cy_Revenant · 13-02-2010 11:43pm

damo darko wrote: »

LOTs but boards is not the time or place for
such a public conversation about how certain people have behaved
it is not respectful of them to ask such a hainous cry to divulge
damaging private details of those i assume you are trying to
stand up for and do right by.....you sir....are an idiot

Green Hand Guy · 13-02-2010 11:47pm

damo darko wrote: »

LOTs but boards is not the time or place for
such a public conversation about how certain people have behaved
it is not respectful of them to ask such a hainous cry to divulge
damaging private details of those i assume you are trying to
stand up for and do right by.....you sir....are an idiot

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like?

phasers · 13-02-2010 11:48pm

Is there any way to confirm this? I want details!

Urizen · 14-02-2010 12:10am

lithiumoxide wrote: »

I hear E&S have been disbanded by the SPC

Disproving this statement will make baby Jesus cry. You don't want to do that now, do you?

gizmo · 14-02-2010 12:19am

Well here's the link to the College View article on the initial suspension by the SPC.

http://www.thecollegeview.com/2010/02/10/es-suspended-over-funds/

I assume info regarding the SPC's decision will surface soon too.

carlowboy · 14-02-2010 12:24am

gizmo wrote: »

Well here's the link to the College View article on the initial suspension by the SPC.

http://www.thecollegeview.com/2010/02/10/es-suspended-over-funds/

I assume info regarding the SPC's decision will surface soon too.

Finally, some info!

lithiumoxide · 14-02-2010 1:37am

gizmo wrote: »

Well here's the link to the College View article on the initial suspension by the SPC.

http://www.thecollegeview.com/2010/02/10/es-suspended-over-funds/

I assume info regarding the SPC's decision will surface soon too.

Nice, thanks. The only info abot the whole thing I could see was some uninformed comments on Facebook. This clears things up a bit more.

What was the conference they were meant to go on? Was it just committee? Or was it a members' trip?

Conor

Hauk · 14-02-2010 2:07am

Thanks gizmo.

In light of this, my initial post in this thread still stands.

phantom_lord · 14-02-2010 11:25am

TheChrisD wrote: »

About time the SPC found a reason to get rid of that drinking soc in disguise...

I presume everyone who's complaining about it were only ever in E&S and never joined any other real proper societies.

real proper society? what's wrong with having a drinking soc?

robby^5 · 14-02-2010 1:59pm

phantom_lord wrote: »

real proper society? what's wrong with having a drinking soc?

SPC actively promoting and funding the drinking of alcohol as a past time. Hmmmmmmm, that could only end badly. Also I'm pretty sure it's against the rules or some such.

Also I applaud the SPC's decision because it's actually sickening to think that other students paid for E&S to have a holiday under totally false pretences.

carlowboy · 14-02-2010 2:01pm

phantom_lord wrote: »

real proper society? what's wrong with having a drinking soc?

+1

If a so called "drinking soc" isn't a real proper society, how would the likes of games soc (who won soc of the year iirc) be considered a real proper society?

For the record, I think it was a stupid mistake by E&S and they deserved a punishment but a lot of people have a chip on their shoulder regarding E&S which I don't really understand.

phantom_lord · 14-02-2010 3:46pm

carlowboy89 wrote: »

For the record, I think it was a stupid mistake by E&S and they deserved a punishment but a lot of people have a chip on their shoulder regarding E&S which I don't really understand.

+1. people are probably just annoyed it takes money away from drama and all those other ghey societies.

lil_cain · 14-02-2010 3:57pm

carlowboy89 wrote: »

+1

If a so called "drinking soc" isn't a real proper society, how would the likes of games soc (who won soc of the year iirc) be considered a real proper society?

For the record, I think it was a stupid mistake by E&S and they deserved a punishment but a lot of people have a chip on their shoulder regarding E&S which I don't really understand.

Because societies are supposed to be a about a core interest. And 'getting really drunk' isn't a core interest I think the SPC can really endorse (Drinking, in terms of say a society dedicated to wine tasting, or brewing or the like might be, but I know the SPC has decided differently in the past). 'Socialising' isn't really a core interest either. It's something every society does (as is drinking, for the most part). E&S was approved as a society on the basis of a claim that would be dedicated to the 'entreupenerial' part of their name. While they've done a lot on that part of their mandate, but I always felt that there were an awful lot of very transparent attempts to get the SPC to fund things with little or no relevance to that. Granted most societies try that every now and again, but E&S just seemed to be trying a bit harder.

As for people having a chip on their shoulder, it's somewhat understandable. In my dealings with E&S, they've always seemed more than a little arrogant (it must be pointed out that they're far from the only society like that though, and I've dealt with a tiny minority of the committee). That seemed to be the experience amongst many of the other society people I knew as well. Plus, E&S have ignored the SPC on multiple occasions in the past. And every time, they've gotten away with it, because the SPC have very little they can do in the way of slaps on the wrist, and were always extremely reluctant to disband, or suspend them, on the basis that that that punished all their members, rather than merely the group that were misbehaving. That kinds of thing will always annoy other societies, and pretty reasonably so.

Cian (Who thankfully isn't on the SPC anymore, so doesn't have to listen to any bitching)

lithiumoxide · 14-02-2010 8:18pm

So what was the granted money actually for? How much was it?

I can imagine quite a few people getting annoyed that their capitation fee gets embezzled for a piss up.

Conor

Hauk · 15-02-2010 12:36am

Mod Edit: Speculation of the particulars of this issue is not permitted.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 15-02-2010 12:41am

Abercrombie & Fitch society....

Einstein? · 15-02-2010 9:51am

Laughter..

public_enemy · 19-02-2010 2:43am

*speculates*

milkwine · 04-04-2010 8:02pm

Hauk wrote: »

Failsoc tbh.

you must be a member or n.e.r.d SOC

robby^5 · 04-04-2010 8:34pm

milkwine wrote: »

you must be a member of n.e.r.d SOC

Fixed your post.

Also yes they are a great band, there should be a soc setup for their appreciation. Great idea!

Green Hand Guy · 04-04-2010 8:59pm

robby^5 wrote: »

Fixed your post.

Also yes they are a great band, there should be a soc setup for their appreciation. Great idea!

Here, here! And I bet this new n.e.r.d. soc won't steal money for a piss up abroad either

MightyMighty737 · 13-05-2010 4:28pm

Just got an e-mail from them. Now the content of the email I couldn't care less about. But surely they shouldn't still be allowed keep our emails/a DCU address after being struck off?

Attol · 13-05-2010 4:40pm

MightyMighty737 wrote: »

Just got an e-mail from them. Now the content of the email I couldn't care less about. But surely they shouldn't still be allowed keep our emails/a DCU address after being struck off?

What did it say?

MightyMighty737 · 13-05-2010 4:43pm

Trying to get votes for Bill Cullen's book to be voted Book of the Decade.

Not to bothered either way by getting the mail, just surprised they were still allowed use the function.

douglashyde · 13-05-2010 4:51pm

If the E&S was disbanded - so to should have been the ability of it's commitee members to send group emails to their list.

I'd imagine that somebody forgot to take away their mailing abilities.

Opps a daizy doo.

Attol · 13-05-2010 7:16pm

If they've kept a record of the list it's kinda hard for anyone to prevent that. They could have saved the details somewhere.

lil_cain · 13-05-2010 9:11pm

Attol wrote: »

If they've kept a record of the list it's kinda hard for anyone to prevent that. They could have saved the details somewhere.

Have they actually done that though? Or is it just a case of no one having bothered to delete the society from the system? I know societies were normally dead for several years before we got around to deleting them in my day.

Hauk · 13-05-2010 9:14pm

milkwine wrote: »

you must be a member or n.e.r.d SOC

I am neither a member of E&S or n.e.r.d SOC.

13-05-2010 9:35pm

milkwine wrote: »

you must be a member or n.e.r.d SOC

LMAO

fun · 14-05-2010 1:23pm

milkwine wrote: »

you must be a member or n.e.r.d SOC

You must have been a member of fake-tan-and-ugg-boots soc. AMIRITE?

14-05-2010 1:38pm

fun wrote: »

You must have been a member of fake-tan-and-ugg-boots soc. AMIRITE?

At least F.T.U.B. Soc's acroynm means something.

Is "n.e.r.d" a clever recursive acronym like PHP or GNU? If so, what does it stand for? Why does no fullstop follow the "d"? What is the significance of eschewing conformist linguistic standards such as capitalisation? Are you trying to make a statement against post-modern pop-culture? milkwine, I need to know!

E&S and the SU

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