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XBRebooted Advice Thread

  • 08-01-2010 12:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭


    There is(well was!) some real good information in Cisk And TV threads, So this thread will be for the information, while their threads will be left up as build Logs

    I'll revert back if its not working out

    Please PM me if i messed up any of the moving, i think i maintained conversation flow ok but if you spot something drop me a PM


    Users Build Logs:

    Cisk
    TouchingVirus
    EnterNow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Right, so here I am, seriously contemplating this hack :D

    I've got a Xenon with 2.0.7371, a refurb the nice folks at MS sent me. Build date is listed as 07-2009.

    What is my process here? I'm also going to take a list of parts, correct me if I'm wrong.

    1) Solder LPT to read nand
    - 100 Ohm resistors, five of them
    - 1 Switching Diode (Optional) - Type? 1N4148?
    - 1 DB-25
    - 1 roll of 30awg wire (for use throughout the process).

    I won't go through the solder points or anything, I'll be using this picture. Is it correct? Do I need to ground anything?. So then I take several dumps of my nand using nandpro2.0b. I compare them with a file comparer, even the DOS/Command Prompt based one will do. Do I require power to the console to take the dump?

    Once I'm happy I've got two dumps (or more) that are the exact same I then use Degraded to investigate the NAND dump and ensure I've got an exploitable BIOS. This may require hex editing the dump to say © 2004 - 2005 Microsoft.... instead of whatever other year appears in the bolded bit. I'm looking for a CB version of <= 1921 or 8192 (Xenon MB).

    If I don't, it's all over for me. Remove JTAG hack and seal up box :)

    If I do get the right CB version then happy days.

    2) Solder the JTAG hack
    - Wire
    - 2 1N4148 switching diodes

    Do I need to remove RT63? Do I need to replace it with a similar, fresh resistor? Why do I need to remove it? What happens when I don't (E80 RROD, but when?).

    From there is gets slightly hazy, the tutorial above involves using lflash and Gentoo, yet other ones don't..what is the story there?

    If you kind folks could fill the blanks I just might be able to get this show on the road and either brick my console or have MEGAFUN :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    so many questions mate. ok lets start with the answers then:
    1. the picture is ok, but remember to install switching diode on mobo side, with black ring facing the mobo; resistors on lpt plug side.
    2. Get kynar wire from radionics, they call it packing wire.
    3. you don't have to ground anything, ground is on the red point - pin no18 on lpt. (I think)
    4. Use kynar wire to solder the hack (2 diodes and jumper) but for the lpt use the cat 5 cable, 50cm max.
    5. get three dumps, there is a tool to do one image out of three dumps.
    6. Remove the resistor, don't worry about putting anything else. This will protect efuses in the cpu from burning, in simple words - you wont feck the hack by accidental updating it. (or you can do this)
    7. When you have full dump you can prepare the XBR image yourself on the pc and flash it using nandrpo, or flash only xell and do as in the tut which cisk cited (prefered).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    docentore wrote: »
    so many questions mate. ok lets start with the answers then:
    1. the picture is ok, but remember to install switching diode on mobo side, with black ring facing the mobo; resistors on lpt plug side.
    2. Get kynar wire from radionics, they call it packing wire.
    3. you don't have to ground anything, ground is on the red point - pin no18 on lpt. (I think)
    4. Use kynar wire to solder the hack (2 diodes and jumper) but for the lpt use the cat 5 cable, 50cm max.
    5. get three dumps, there is a tool to do one image out of three dumps.
    6. Remove the resistor, don't worry about putting anything else. This will protect efuses in the cpu from burning, in simple words - you wont feck the hack by accidental updating it. (or you can do this)
    7. When you have full dump you can prepare the XBR image yourself on the pc and flash it using nandrpo, or flash only xell and do as in the tut which cisk cited (prefered).

    Thanks docentore, much appreciated. As for the so many questions, guess it's the scientist in me, want to fully understand this process fully before heating the iron :D To take the dump does the console have to be powered on? Any idea of the name of tool to do an image out of 3 dumps? I think I'll follow cisk's tutorial because it's prefered :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    Thanks docentore, much appreciated. As for the so many questions, guess it's the scientist in me, want to fully understand this process fully before heating the iron :D To take the dump does the console have to be powered on? Any idea of the name of tool to do an image out of 3 dumps? I think I'll follow cisk's tutorial because it's prefered :)

    It has to be connected to power brick, but turned off. Also don't turn it on between dumps, take about 1 minute break between them.

    The tool is called NAND Compare and Reconstruction Tool v1.2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Hey Mr Virus :)

    Im going to get the stuff for this too if you want we could go splitsies on postage for stuff? Unless you really want the kenyar for again i have some your welcome to have some. Its purple though :) (i thought it could kinda be like my trade mark :P )

    Oh and im sure you'll have closer options but your welcome to use my parrallel ported computer too :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Hey Mr Virus :)

    Im going to get the stuff for this too if you want we could go splitsies on postage for stuff? Unless you really want the kenyar for again i have some your welcome to have some. Its purple though :) (i thought it could kinda be like my trade mark :P )

    Oh and im sure you'll have closer options but your welcome to use my parrallel ported computer too :P

    Howdy witnessmenow, I'd be more than willing to go splits on the postage & product price for any of the required stuff. Modders meetup ftw :D I just want one of those nifty hacks cisk got, damn him for those pretty pictures, and docentore the enabler :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Ok well first things first we need to decide where we are getting the stuff!

    Resistors: I dont think we'd do any better than this for the resistors:

    LPT ports: are proving to be more allusive... I've found cables that could be hacked but not a regular head (maybe im searching wrong, but ive checked ebay, farnell and maplin). Work has a catalog that might have that kind of stuff in it, I'll enquire tomorrow. I know college used to have them.... might no someone who could..yeah you get the picture :) EDIT: Wait no i found them :), we apparantly call them DS25 (D-sub). My girlfriend is in scotland as is home next weekend, we could get them posted to her for £2.99 (i'll find out how much postgae is to here too)

    Diodes: Dont think there will be any problem getting, but i havent looked.

    Kenyar: I have

    CAT5: I buying a box very soon so shouldnt be a problem either.Worst worst case scenario i have 4 core telephone cable, we could just use two lengths of that with a bit of insulating tape holding them strong.

    Solder: I've plenty(although i really should put in an order for more now rather than waiting to run out :P)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Ok well first things first we need to decide where we are getting the stuff!

    Resistors: I dont think we'd do any better than this for the resistors:

    LPT ports: are proving to be more allusive... I've found cables that could be hacked but not a regular head (maybe im searching wrong, but ive checked ebay, farnell and maplin). Work has a catalog that might have that kind of stuff in it, I'll enquire tomorrow. I know college used to have them.... might no someone who could..yeah you get the picture :) EDIT: Wait no i found them :), we apparantly call them DS25 (D-sub). My girlfriend is in scotland as is home next weekend, we could get them posted to her for £2.99 (i'll find out how much postgae is to here too)

    Diodes: Dont think there will be any problem getting, but i havent looked.

    Kenyar: I have

    CAT5: I buying a box very soon so shouldnt be a problem either.Worst worst case scenario i have 4 core telephone cable, we could just use two lengths of that with a bit of insulating tape holding them strong.

    Solder: I've plenty(although i really should put in an order for more now rather than waiting to run out :P)

    Cat5: I've got about 50m of Cat 5 here in the house with me (along with jacks, crimps and that for wiring up this and that) so there's no need to worry about that.

    Solder: I've got quite a bit of 60/40 Tin/Lead X38 2 core residue flux solder myself so that's not a problem.

    Wire: Never had anything smaller than Cat 5 really, must consider getting some 30awg stuff off ebay for dirt cheap if I can

    Diodes - Pack of 80 here, I was gonna get my 30awg off the same guy but I see he's a bit expensive for the 5m considering the price of the stuff from Radionics *shrugs* There's a 100 pack here too.

    Resistors: Yep, probably won't do better :P

    LPT Ports: I'm happy to go with Maplins :)


    As an aside was gonna go with an MB->RJ45->LPT reader. It'd have Cat 5 soldered to the solder points running to an RJ45 header/jack that I'd place into a hole I cut into the case and use a glue gun to hold it in place (under the hard drive/in the hard drive slot). Then I'd crimp an RJ45 cable, leaving one end open and sticking the LPT/D-Sub 25 + Resistors on it.

    That way I won't have to open and close the case all the time if I want to read/write the nand. I'd just take out the hard drive and stick in the RJ45->LPT cable.

    Do you think I can find some RJ45 headers? Can I f*ck. I could revisit this idea at a later stage though, order from Digi-key.ie or whatever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Thats a great Idea.

    Not to be trying to steal your thunder or anything but i was thinking of something similar :) (great minds think alike huh, fools seldom differ though)

    I was thinking of maybe putting nothing but wires in at the nand and crimping it with Rj45, then have a a small matrix board with a RJ45 socket on it and have all the components on that.

    Did you ever use/hear of heat shrink tubing? I'd say it would be well worth getting some to make sure the joints stay away from each other.

    As for RJ45 header, didnt really find anythign either... This would get us out. Only a euro each if we post them to my missus. I think i might grab couple, may be even possible to crack them open and get proper sockets out of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    Lads, you will need lpt cable just for first three dumps and for Xell flashing (only 30 blocks). The rest can be done pretty simple in linux (5 minutes opposite to 40 with lpt). It would be good idea to leave cable in (with the rj45 couplers etc) but use linix to flash whenever you can - less errors and much quicker.

    I did the same what you're thinking of doing (with rj45 wall plug), but I'm going to change that, I've got myself olimex lpc2148 board :D

    EDIT: ohh, but if you're going to order those couplers can you grab 5 for me please? Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    yeah no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Thats a great Idea.

    Not to be trying to steal your thunder or anything but i was thinking of something similar :) (great minds think alike huh, fools seldom differ though)

    I was thinking of maybe putting nothing but wires in at the nand and crimping it with Rj45, then have a a small matrix board with a RJ45 socket on it and have all the components on that.

    Did you ever use/hear of heat shrink tubing? I'd say it would be well worth getting some to make sure the joints stay away from each other.

    As for RJ45 header, didnt really find anythign either... This would get us out. Only a euro each if we post them to my missus. I think i might grab couple, may be even possible to crack them open and get proper sockets out of them

    You stole my thunder :(

    Heatshrink would be good to use, I'm a bit of a neat freak :p.

    Those RJ45 Connectors are pretty bulky, I saw a tutorial over on xbox-scene that uses them, it ended up pretty large in the case. I'd be all for hacking one apart to see if we could salvage a proper port. I have a supply to older motherboards (at least I think I do) so I could potentially use a heatgun to heat up the solder on a port and rob it off the motherboard. Then I managed to find these over at Radionics. Looks like just what I was thinking, though I'd be inclined to go for unshielded myself. I just looked for D-Sub 25way as well, Radionics have none, only 9, 15 and 37 way D-subs so Maplin is the choice I think.

    Can I ask what the thinking behind the matrix board is? Sturdier base? Reduced soldering? Using one it would appear the cable process is like MB->RJ45->Maxtrix Board->LPT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    You stole my thunder :(

    Heatshrink would be good to use, I'm a bit of a neat freak :p.

    Those RJ45 Connectors are pretty bulky, I saw a tutorial over on xbox-scene that uses them, it ended up pretty large in the case. I'd be all for hacking one apart to see if we could salvage a proper port. I have a supply to older motherboards (at least I think I do) so I could potentially use a heatgun to heat up the solder on a port and rob it off the motherboard. Then I managed to find these over at Radionics. Looks like just what I was thinking, though I'd be inclined to go for unshielded myself. I just looked for D-Sub 25way as well, Radionics have none, only 9, 15 and 37 way D-subs so Maplin is the choice I think.

    Can I ask what the thinking behind the matrix board is? Sturdier base? Reduced soldering? Using one it would appear the cable process is like MB->RJ45->Maxtrix Board->LPT?

    Yeah they are exactly what i was looking for. These ones are even cheaper :) Its a pity I used to pass by that way quite often on my travels last year, ah well it couldnt be that dear for them to post.

    Matrix board just seems a bit more permanent to me, i dont particularly like having solder being the thing that is holding things together. My Idea was to MB -Rj45-> Matrix board -Rj45-> LPT

    Was even considering getting a small case for the matrix board.

    I have the matrix board already so i think it worth trying. Also we are going to have enough stuff to do more than one each, so we may aswell dick around with stuff and see what turns out the best!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Yeah they are exactly what i was looking for. These ones are even cheaper :) Its a pity I used to pass by that way quite often on my travels last year, ah well it couldnt be that dear for them to post.

    Matrix board just seems a bit more permanent to me, i dont particularly like having solder being the thing that is holding things together. My Idea was to MB -Rj45-> Matrix board -Rj45-> LPT

    Was even considering getting a small case for the matrix board.

    I have the matrix board already so i think it worth trying. Also we are going to have enough stuff to do more than one each, so we may aswell dick around with stuff and see what turns out the best!

    Heh, I figured there might be cheaper ones on Radionics, it's unfortunate I'm not in the Dublin area for a while or I'd stop by and pick them up myself.

    Incidentally, browsing the Radionics site I seem to have come across the D-Sub 25 Way too, there are loads of them ranging in price (Search Term: "25 Way D" without quotes). this one, this one and lots of others.
    You're right about having the materials to build several and there's more fun to be had trying new ways so yeah :)

    So this is the final inventory then?

    Stuff to buy
    1N4148 Switching Diodes (ebay)
    100 Ohm resistors (ebay)
    Heat Shrink (ebay)
    LPT/DB25/D-Sub 25 (maplin or radionics?)
    RJ45 PCB Ports (radionics)


    Other Hardware
    Soldering Iron
    Glue Gun
    Dremel? - for cutting the hole in the case? I've got a dremel 300
    Cat5e + Crimper + RJ45 Plugs
    Kenyar Wire
    Solder
    Matrix Board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Heh, I figured there might be cheaper ones on Radionics, it's unfortunate I'm not in the Dublin area for a while or I'd stop by and pick them up myself.

    Incidentally, browsing the Radionics site I seem to have come across the D-Sub 25 Way too, there are loads of them ranging in price (Search Term: "25 Way D" without quotes). this one, this one and lots of others.
    You're right about having the materials to build several and there's more fun to be had trying new ways so yeah :)

    So this is the final inventory then?

    Stuff to buy
    1N4148 Switching Diodes (ebay) - Yup
    100 Ohm resistors (ebay) - Yup
    Heat Shrink (ebay) - Yup same guy as the resistors
    LPT/DB25/D-Sub 25 (maplin or radionics?) - I'd be happy to give radionics the business
    RJ45 PCB Ports (radionics) - yup


    Other Hardware
    Soldering Iron - Have
    Glue Gun - Have
    Dremel? - for cutting the hole in the case? I've got a dremel 300 - Dont have a "dremel" but i have a rotary tool, might struggle a small bit with the metal casing, but will fly through the plastic. I loaned one to my uncle that i cut wire holes out of my pc with so that should do the job if we need it
    Cat5e + Crimper + RJ45 Plugs - Have all but the cat5
    Kenyar Wire - Have
    Solder - have
    Matrix Board - have


    Yup i think thats it alright, we need to make sure buy the right gender of Lpt (i think male is what we need)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Yup i think thats it alright, we need to make sure buy the right gender of Lpt (i think male is what we need)

    Yep, we need a male D-sub, the motherboards and PCI cards all have females.

    I'll bring the dremel just in case the chassis becomes a problem for your tool and the cat5 & stuff. I'll take down the soldering iron (the CIS 950+ you recommended as your next purchase) if you want to see it or try it out before you commit to it.

    I'm happy to give Radionics the business too, it's only a few cent in the difference for the products anyways.

    Do you wanna get the gear or will I? Makes no real difference to me to be honest. Should check with Docentore if he wants some of those RJ45 connectors we're getting or wants to leave it too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    Should check with Docentore if he wants some of those RJ45 connectors we're getting or wants to leave it too


    Nah, I can grab them from online myself.

    I can see that you have hell lot of a plan :D
    But I'm kind of sure that in a week time you're going to look for a usb solution, like i did.

    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Sure I'll get the stuff, Or at least I'll see what the credit card says about it :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Stuff to buy
    1N4148 Switching Diodes (ebay) - £2.50
    100 Ohm resistors (ebay) - €4.50 for both this and heat shrink
    Heat Shrink (ebay)
    LPT/DB25/D-Sub 25 (maplin or radionics?)
    RJ45 PCB Ports (radionics)



    How many of the rest do we want/need?

    I want to get minimum 2 Rj45 ports, but i'll probably get 4 to be safe, how many will i stick you down for?

    I think we should get 3 Lpt ( incase we make a bollox of it!, maybe more?)

    EDIT: I think I'll hold off untill monday to get the stuff from radionics, the guy who handles the buying of this sort of stuff wasnt in work today and the place they get the stuff off is local (no delivery charges) And sure its not like they are going to post anything at 7 on a friday anyways :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    You can stick me down for 5 RJ45's, I've got 3 consoles to do this one to, two banned that need the HDD re-enabled and the one I'm hoping to get XBR onto. And yeah, 3 LPT males sounds about right, if you don't want one to go into the bin then don't let me at them :P

    I've also just got my hands on an old crappy Dell laptop that runs XP and has a native LPT port, here's hoping it does the business

    @Docentore: USB flashing is quite a bit faster I'll agree, but I'm only doing this for me and not in any sort of commerical venture so I can put up with 2 hours of reading the nand. At least for the XBR box once I get XeLL onto it I can use lflash :)


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    Once you have got Xell on your nand, you can update from then on using lflash or xbrflash from within linux.

    I also hear Trancy from XBH is trying to port XBRflash to a Xex so you could flash your nand from within XBR.


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    Reline99 has just released Flash360 V1.0, which is a Xex that will alow your reflash/update your nand from within the Nxe dash, so once youve flashed over LPT once you will prob not need it again.

    Would be still usefull incase something went wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    XeX Menu released (formally known as XeXloader) with FTP support - copying games, writing to nand etc; temperature monitoring; skin support.

    Briliant. Can't waint for my exams to finish so I can start to play with this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Ok ordered off radionics.

    They really dont seem to deal with the general public so hopefully everything went ok!

    I bought 10 of the the cheap rj45 sockets
    and 5 of these (minimum order of 5, was cheaper than buyign 3 of the others)

    Came to €21 including shipping. Their prices do not include VAT so that was added at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Ok ordered off radionics.

    They really dont seem to deal with the general public so hopefully everything went ok!

    I bought 10 of the the cheap rj45 sockets
    and 5 of these (minimum order of 5, was cheaper than buyign 3 of the others)

    Came to €21 including shipping. Their prices do not include VAT so that was added at the end.

    They've been in business since my dad was a kid, and I don't see a reason why they wouldn't deal with the public - losing out on business if you ask me :D

    I'll sort you out with the cash when we meet up unless you'd like it in a bank transfer or over paypal :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    no rush, proably cant do it this weekedn though.

    1) need to bring a mobo from the dead first

    2) GF is home, and she would not be a happy camper if i spent half the weekend modding an xbox :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    no rush, proably cant do it this weekedn though.

    1) need to bring a mobo from the dead first

    2) GF is home, and she would not be a happy camper if i spent half the weekend modding an xbox :P

    Heh, I figured about #2 which is why I didn't mention I won't be here this weekend either. Free all next week & weekend though, I think *crosses fingers*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Sure we'll aim for next weekend, i'll be down in limerick during the week anyways.

    Diodes, resistors and heat shrink arrived at the house, I expect the radionics order to be in my dads office (i'll check later)

    Diodes came with a free fruit salad sweet, I'll make sure to save you half :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    make sure that you use the newest Xell (it is called xellous now) and XeXMenu.

    Transferring stuff over FTP is deadly, just like the old Xbox. I used transfer cable just once to drop the XeXmenu to the hdd and from then FTP only.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Sure we'll aim for next weekend, i'll be down in limerick during the week anyways.

    Diodes, resistors and heat shrink arrived at the house, I expect the radionics order to be in my dads office (i'll check later)

    Diodes came with a free fruit salad sweet, I'll make sure to save you half :pac:

    Hah :pac: :P


    And yeah, I'm around this weekend coming so I'd be up for a
    little modding :D

    @docentore: Thanks for all the advice thus far, and to you too cisk - I'm really looking forward to this :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I never said, i got the stuff from radionics at some stage last week. Seems to be the business. Stuff was couriered by interlink express.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I never said, i got the stuff from radionics at some stage last week. Seems to be the business. Stuff was couriered by interlink express.

    Courier? Very swish - I guess that's why they hate little orders then, much easier to get a courier out for 5000 of X, Y and Z :D

    Keep me posted about what's happening, I'll be online all week too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    new dashboard-like thingy is out there, IngeniouX.

    French and semi-english beta only for the moment but seems to be working.
    Nice 2 window file commander (like good old NC), ftp access, extracting game icons from games etc.

    Can't get my external hard drive to work though and the XexMenu stopped working when I connected the same hard drive. Strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I saw that there on xbins, decided against it because it was in an early beta from what I could see.

    I got NXE2GOD too, turns games into Games on Demand so you don't even need the disc to play. Can't argue with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Right so, list of software I've gotten - probably more than is needed but if I've not covered anything somebody might point it out:
    360 Flash Tool v0.91
    Flash360 v1.0
    HexEd v3.0F
    lflash
    Nandpro v2.0b
    NXE2GOD
    Soldering.jpg
    XBR (Xenon 8955_3)
    XeLLous v1.0
    XeXLoader v0.26
    XeXMenu v1.1
    gentoo-livecd-xenon-beta-v2.iso

    I've burned the Gentoo ISO to a CD, and I've burned XeXLoader v0.26 ISO too like cisk did.

    Good to go, I think. There's just so much conflicting info out there I ended up like a kid in a sweet shop over at Xbins :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    Right so, list of software I've gotten - probably more than is needed but if I've not covered anything somebody might point it out:



    I've burned the Gentoo ISO to a CD, and I've burned XeXLoader v0.26 ISO too like cisk did.

    Good to go, I think. There's just so much conflicting info out there I ended up like a kid in a sweet shop over at Xbins :D

    I'm, using two dash's at the moment. Xexmenu - because of nice FTP support, but prefer the Freestyle Dash for running games etc


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    Im running XeXmenu at the moment, its basically the next xexloader version after .26. The team changed a bit hence the name change.

    New pc app released yesterday called Iso2God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    *dusts off thread*

    Ohh...hey there :D

    So, yesterday didn't go so good. I blame my soldering, lack of a "system" so I crossed wires and did all sorts of n00b sh*t. On the other hand, I did manage to make my way over to meet witnessmenow who was an absolute gent, even providing me with some food to keep me going :)

    I got home pretty late last night but I was determined to figure out wtf went wrong, so I just unsoldered it all and started from scratch, going directly from board to DB25 using as short a wire as possible - and it actually worked.

    I got a first read of the whole nand with only 1 bad block. Then mid-read through the second read I started getting Error 280's on all blocks. So I rebooted and tried again to take the second dump. It worked, so I took the third dump. E280's again, so another reboot and I got my third dump.

    I compared them, every one of them was different, oh how I laughed (and cried :p). So today I checked the soldering again, looked fine to me, multimetered it and all's good. So I said I'd try a diode, even though the FlashConfig was correct without it. Sure enough, 3 full dumps, no E280's and always an E250 on block 42. HexCompare said the 3 dumps were the exact same. Using Flash Tool I discovered I've CB and CD version 8192, which is exploitable!

    So I JTAG'd up the other headers and removed the RT63 resistor - Wow, that resistor is small. I had to use a magnifying glass to get it, it was absolutely tiny.

    I'm going to clean up my soldering again and try getting the Motherboard->RJ45->DB25 working again, I really want it to do that one and besides, I'm learning all the time and my soldering is improving dramatically!

    So thanks to witnessmenow for the parts, the food, the company, the kenyar and general craic on Saturday, I'll have pics and stuff once I'm all done.

    Just one question though, do I need XeLL before I put on XeLLous? I can't find XeLL anywhere for my Xenon, not even on xbins (unless I didn't look hard enough).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    you got it working! You bastid!


    Must try it non fancy too, im to stupid to do it the fancy way :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    you got it working! You bastid!

    Must try it non fancy too, im to stupid to do it the fancy way :)

    It could just be my motherboard being fussy, but in order to get it to work properly I used as short a wire as I could (almost too short), soldered directly from board to DB25 plug. I used all resistors and the optional diode to get it working this way.

    Obviously I wasn't quite happy with that setup having bought the RJ45 headers so I set about doing what I tried to do on Saturday. I checked all wires at all points of the process (board -> RJ45, RJ45 -> DB-25) and triple checked the header making sure everything was wired like it should be. The soldering was correct this time, but it just wouldn't work with the resistors. In the end I took the resistors off, leaving the diode on, and it worked like a charm.

    I've flashed XBRebooted (it comes with a built in XeLL) and installed XeXMenu v1.1 (which only looks proper with the HDTV Composite cable enabled, not the SD cable).

    Much to my surprise and disappointment (:(), in order to read backups the DVD drive has to be flashed to iXtreme, other than that it'll be detected as a DVD. I thought XBR would have gotten rid of that but it is the firmware on the drive that's the security checker so oh well, need to figure out how to flash an 83850C drive from July 2009 tomorrow evening.

    Is there any other necessary homebrew apps I should get? I'm going to install Freestyle Dash tomorrow. How do I install XeLLous? Or is there even a point?

    Cheers for all the help so far, this was totally worth doing IMO - My first proper solder mod :D


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    XBR hasnt removed the Dvd checks, i would have a feeling these would be removed soon.

    Remember you now have Ftp capabilities, so you could use Iso2God on your pc and Ftp them suckers.

    If your into emus checkout snes360 and genisis360, pretty sweet.


    Well done on the soldering, i have been teaching myself over the ast week and am going to fix an old xenon and try the jtag wiring :D

    And them new pesky litons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I dont mean to sound like a kill joy, but the jtag soldering is actually as easy as soldering gets! (bar ground, as its hard to get the solder to melt)

    Do yourself a favour and get a decentish soldering iron (doesnt need to be adjustable, something like a 25w with a needle head should do the job, about €20 in maplin, only thing is not much more will get you the adjustable station from DX)

    get kynar cable (just ask TV about the difference!)


    I failed at the new liteon mod last night, was ragin! I'm pretty sure i had it soldered right but the damn status would not change to 0x72!

    I'm going to probably get myself a arcade to practise on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I dont mean to sound like a kill joy, but the jtag soldering is actually as easy as soldering gets! (bar ground, as its hard to get the solder to melt)

    KILLJOY! :D
    Do yourself a favour and get a decentish soldering iron (doesnt need to be adjustable, something like a 25w with a needle head should do the job, about €20 in maplin, only thing is not much more will get you the adjustable station from DX)

    get kynar cable (just ask TV about the difference!)

    +1 on these points - buying the new soldering iron with the proper tip was definitely a wise investment, it made things sooo much easier.

    As for the Kynar wire ..I spent 2 hours trying to solder Cat 5 cable to the motherboard (I was using it to run from the mobo to the RJ45 header), it's relative inflexibility and thickness meant I just couldn't do it. The slightest tug and it'd break the solder, it took absolutely ages to heat up to tin. It was an all around general pain. Switched to Kynar and I had both the RJ45 header and motherboard soldered within an hour.
    I failed at the new liteon mod last night, was ragin! I'm pretty sure i had it soldered right but the damn status would not change to 0x72!

    I'm going to probably get myself a arcade to practise on

    Recoverable fail? Or out and out fail? You might check out the Xecutor LT Switch (Install Notes)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    recoverable, its all packed away again now.

    Must have a look at the xecuter method, just looking at the board though there seems to be nothing to it!!


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    Yep i have the Lt switch, Gonna try it tmo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Jeez, not only did I get off lucky with a July 2009 refurb having CB/CD 8192, the console also had a LiteOn 83850C v1 so I didn't need to buy a CK3 or Solder the PCB to flash it so it's up to iX LT now :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Just ordered 5 switches, they better be good!

    If your sticking one of these onto every drive the days of €40 xbox drive flashing are over!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Just ordered 5 switches, they better be good!

    If your sticking one of these onto every drive the days of €40 xbox drive flashing are over!!

    The switch is not meant to be removed, you just switch it off. Easy for re-flashing. I'm sure you could take them off if you wanted to and bridge the traces with some solder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Thats what im saying, sure if this is costing you £5 + postage and it takes you time to install it your hardly going to still charge €40 for it!

    If you leave it in it leaves you shafted in some ways too:

    1: its +£5 wortth of hardware you cant use again

    2: Now any joe soap can mod/upgrade the drive while you had to do all the hard work! If you didnt leave it in they'd have to come back to you

    Im not really this ruthless about console modding , but the above points are true, its probably worth your while taking the thin back out when your done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Thats what im saying, sure if this is costing you £5 + postage and it takes you time to install it your hardly going to still charge €40 for it!

    If you leave it in it leaves you shafted in some ways too:

    1: its +£5 wortth of hardware you cant use again

    2: Now any joe soap can mod/upgrade the drive while you had to do all the hard work! If you didnt leave it in they'd have to come back to you

    Im not really this ruthless about console modding , but the above points are true, its probably worth your while taking the thin back out when your done.

    For point 1 - I'd add the cost onto the consumer :D

    For point 2 - I'd be of the opinion that if the person didn't have the know how to DIY it themselves the first time, they'll probably come back the second time :p


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