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Manny Pacquiao: The Most Overrated Fighter of All Time
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He beat, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Leon Spinks, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson and more decent opposition not even mentioned and beat 3 of the 5 opponents who he lost too in the rematch, The only 2 he did not rematch and beat where Berbick and Holmes in his last 2 fights when he was suffering from Alzheimers and finished in a boxing sense..
He is the greatest and saying he is overrated is madness!!!
Most felt Norton beat him in two of their 3 fights, and Ali was very lucky not to be 1-2 against Joe Frazier as he was ready to quit on his stool before the final round in Manilla as Frazier's corner pulled him out.
Had those results gone the other way history would look at him very differently.
Not to try and bring Ali down, but I'm just pointing out how any man's record can be scrutinised no matter how good.
You could also add things in like how an average fighter in Cooper floored him and had him out on his feet.
My only problem with some people in how they view Ali is that he's put on a pedestal and not treated like other boxers, where you can't criticise him in the same way. Many ignore the fact that a lot of the time he wasn't so glamorous 'floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee', he spoiled a lot and held other fighters behind the head with one hand for most of his career.
Despite his elusive defence, his low hands meant he ate more left hooks in his career than needed to, hence the Banks, Cooper and Frazier knockdowns.
If people are going to criticise Pacquiao for something other than their beliefs he's on drugs, then they should apply the same criticisms to Muhammed Ali, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Robinson and even Jim Rock. Standards should be kept the same for everyone and not let people away with something because they're constantly referred to as 'The Greatest' etc
From that point of view I think Ali is one of the most overrated fighters ever.
Not because he wasn't great, he was. He's one of the greatest fighters and Heavyweights ever and I've no problem with people who call him the greatest Heavyweight ever even if I'm not sure myself. But the fact he's almost untouchable in terms of criticism and that many won't even think or allow themselves to look at his weaknesses mean he's overrated. The fact that many people just regard him as the greatest fighter ever without allowing any question of it means he's overrated to some degree, even as amazing as he was.
Pacquiao's record is amazing aswell, and up there with pretty much anyone.
Beating Clottey will be a good addition to it too.
Mayweather has beaten Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Ricky Hatton and Juan Manuel Marquez at Welterweight.
Pacquiao has beaten De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and now has the opportunity to beat Joshua Clottey. Now De La Hoya was drained so you can scratch that if you wish but Cotto and Clottey are better Welterweights than all of the guys on Floyd's list.
Question if the guy is on drugs if you wish, but the guys record is amazing imo, the same way Ray Leonard's is, the same way Ali's is and the same way Louis' is. Jim Rock.........well Jim may need a few more big wins to get to that level but who knows
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Most felt Norton beat him in two of their 3 fights, and Ali was very lucky not to be 1-2 against Joe Frazier as he was ready to quit on his stool before the final round in Manilla as Frazier's corner pulled him out.
Had those results gone the other way history would look at him very differently.
Not to try and bring Ali down, but I'm just pointing out how any man's record can be scrutinised no matter how good.
You could also add things in like how an average fighter in Cooper floored him and had him out on his feet.
My only problem with some people in how they view Ali is that he's put on a pedestal and not treated like other boxers, where you can't criticise him in the same way. Many ignore the fact that a lot of the time he wasn't so glamorous 'floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee', he spoiled a lot and held other fighters behind the head with one hand for most of his career.
Despite his elusive defence, his low hands meant he ate more left hooks in his career than needed to, hence the Banks, Cooper and Frazier knockdowns.
If people are going to criticise Pacquiao for something other than their beliefs he's on drugs, then they should apply the same criticisms to Muhammed Ali, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Robinson and even Jim Rock. Standards should be kept the same for everyone and not let people away with something because they're constantly referred to as 'The Greatest' etc
From that point of view I think Ali is one of the most overrated fighters ever.
Not because he wasn't great, he was. He's one of the greatest fighters and Heavyweights ever and I've no problem with people who call him the greatest Heavyweight ever even if I'm not sure myself. But the fact he's almost untouchable in terms of criticism and that many won't even think or allow themselves to look at his weaknesses mean he's overrated. The fact that many people just regard him as the greatest fighter ever without allowing any question of it means he's overrated to some degree, even as amazing as he was.
Pacquiao's record is amazing aswell, and up there with pretty much anyone.
Beating Clottey will be a good addition to it too.
Mayweather has beaten Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Ricky Hatton and Juan Manuel Marquez at Welterweight.
Pacquiao has beaten De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and now has the opportunity to beat Joshua Clottey. Now De La Hoya was drained so you can scratch that if you wish but Cotto and Clottey are better Welterweights than all of the guys on Floyd's list.
Question if the guy is on drugs if you wish, but the guys record is amazing imo, the same way Ray Leonard's is, the same way Ali's is and the same way Louis' is. Jim Rock.........well Jim may need a few more big wins to get to that level but who knows
i agree you cant seem to question ali without being attacked but i am especially biased cos i hate racists like ali.
but prob was best fighter ever but if you wanted to talk rubbish like the original poster said bout pacman. you could call him a cheat cos of what his corner did against cooper and go even as far to believe foreman very late admittting that he was ?drugged? before the rumble in the jungle, and another bout a deflated glove vs frazier. (by the way i dont actually believe these are ali cheating as glove icident was his corner and others bull like the first post).
i think pacman is a top fighter but would not be suprised bout the drug thing after all jones and mosley were both definitely on drugs so who knows how many top fighters have been0 -
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