Honestly

Fink Goddie

Seems like pretty much every celeb male has cheated, examples being Tiger Woods, David Beckham, good looking girls throwing themselves at them all the time.

Would you cheat if you thought you would get away with it and your OH would never find out and noone would ever know.


The guy/girl is really hot and mad after you, would you??

hobochris

Nope, would never cheat.

If a really wanted to go off with someone else I would end my current relationship rather then cheat.

Imagine being in the other persons shoes and being cheated on, would never do that to anyone. Even If they would never know, I would know and in turn the guilt would effect the current relationship.

I'm happy with my OH so don't have to worry about this sort of decision anyway.

Fink Goddie

hobochris wrote: »

Nope, would never cheat.

If a really wanted to go off with someone else I would end my current relationship rather then cheat.

Imagine being in the other persons shoes and being cheated on, would never do that to anyone. Even If they would never know, I would know.

I'm happy with my OH so don't have to worry about this sort of decision.

I reckon any man with the amount of opportunities as lets say david Beckham has would give in eventually.

battser

Apologies for being blunt Fink but saying we'd eventually give in is pure BS and ignorant!

Not every guy is a d!ck - If every guy got as many chances as beckham like you say and eventually would give in your making one serious generalisation!

So Honestly - A very Pointless thread!! :rolleyes:

Ickle Magoo

No, I'd never cheat. I've been cheated on in the past and it stinks plus my relationship means far too much to risk even if I thought I could get away with it - added to the fact that my relationship isn't missing anything that warrants getting it from a third party.

Fink Goddie wrote:

I reckon any man with the amount of opportunities as lets say david Beckham has would give in eventually.

I agree to a point. If a rich, handsome man spends swathes of time apart from his wife & surrounded by women throwing themselves at him then the conclusion seems to be fairly inevitable.

DancingDaisy

I would never cheat, and I think that if the idea of being caught is needed as a deterrent to cheating, then there's a problem that needs to be addressed.

A relationship should be built on trust and honesty, and cheating is breaking both of those.

NothingMan

I've had chances to cheat. Once with an extremely hot girl who is apparently filthy. And was basically molested last Paddys day by some drunk chick and I haven't cheated.

I have looked at the hot girl and thought "mmm hmm, that'd be hot", but that's as far as it went. All guys aren't predisposed to cheating. Although having model after model fling themselves at you would require some will power and a lot of self control.

Fink Goddie

battser wrote: »

Apologies for being blunt Fink but saying we'd eventually give in is pure BS and ignorant!

Not every guy is a d!ck - If every guy got as many chances as beckham like you say and eventually would give in your making one serious generalisation!

So Honestly - A very Pointless thread!! :rolleyes:

Dont reply then if you think its so pointless, why dont you set up one that you think is!

Well if you havent been in that situation then you cant really say. Name a hot celebrity man that hasnt cheated?? Wouldnt say there's many!

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I agree to a point. If a rich, handsome man spends swathes of time apart from his wife & surrounded by women throwing themselves at him then the conclusion seems to be fairly inevitable.

NothingMan wrote: »

Although having model after model fling themselves at you would require some will power and a lot of self control.

Agreed

amacachi

For guys to go cheating they have to be cheating with someone. So either both sexes cheat roughly the same amount or else single women get a lot more sex than single men.

Would I cheat? Nah, cba.

extra-ordinary_

It wouldn't matter if nobody found out - I'd know.

It would ruin the honest relationship I was having with my partner.

Fink Goddie

amacachi wrote: »

For guys to go cheating they have to be cheating with someone. So either both sexes cheat roughly the same amount or else single women get a lot more sex than single men.

Would I cheat? Nah, cba.

I'd say single women do get a lot more sex than single men.

Wibbs

Looking at rich and famous types you do notice they divorce more and have rolling monogamous relationships more. I think they do because they can, they have more opportunities and less downsides as money does protect you a lot and gives you more freedom. IMHO I would say more people would move on at the 4 year mark if they had more freedom. Not even a conscious thing as such.

Cheating would plug into that too. more opportunities.

Plus many performers it could be argued are more emotionally needy and performing feeds back into that gap they may feel in themsleves. George Michael has talked about this.He reckons most perormers have that hole in them that the audience fills. I would reckon that type of personality is more likely to cheat full stop. People I know who are cheaters tend to be like that. The "is this it? I need more" types.

sorrywhat

What about the females, Meg Ryan, Tori Spelling, Pricella Presly,Zoe Ball, Amanda Holden, Kelly Brook, Ulrika Johnson.

Its not just guys.

The woman can be just as sh!tty too.

Fink Goddie

sorrywhat wrote: »

What about the females, Meg Ryan, Tori Spelling, Pricella Presly,Zoe Ball, Amanda Holden, Kelly Brook, Ulrika Johnson.

Its not just guys.

The woman can be just as sh!tty too.

But i'm sure you could name 20 times more men that do it than women.
Dont get me wrong i'm not saying i blame them or that i wouldnt do the same i mean if Ryan Reynolds, Josh Hartnett, Justin Trousersnake, or even Rob Kearney came after me while i was in a relationship i dont think i could resist the temptation.

Raze_them_all

Fink Goddie wrote: »

I'd say single women do get a lot more sex than single men.

I'd say it's fairly even.



Would I cheat if nobody found out? Yes.
Has somebody found out that I cheated before? Yes.
Have I cheated since? Yes.

I never feel bad when I go off with someone else, obviously I don't wanna be with the person I cheated on

sorrywhat

Fink Goddie wrote: »

But i'm sure you could name 20 times more men that do it than women.
Dont get me wrong i'm not saying i blame them or that i wouldnt do the same i mean if Ryan Reynolds, Josh Hartnett, Justin Trousersnake, or even Rob Kearney came after me while i was in a relationship i dont think i could resist the temptation.

That only counts if they are on your wish list. If they aint on the list you cant bang them!

jellie

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Seems like pretty much every celeb male has cheated, examples being Tiger Woods, David Beckham, good looking girls throwing themselves at them all the time.

Would you cheat if you thought you would get away with it and your OH would never find out and noone would ever know.


The guy/girl is really hot and mad after you, would you??

Just to balance it up - i just read a piece in Now magazine* about Angelina Jolie cheating on Brad Pitt. He is one of the hottest men in the world.

But.. he cheated on Jennifer Aniston who is - or at least was at the time - one of the hottest women in the world.

So yeah. people cheat. not everyone, but you cant confine it to celebs or to men or to women. its everywhere.

& in response to the question - no i wouldnt. ive had it done to me & its one of the most horrible feelings ive ever gone through. i dont see the point in being with someone if you want to be with other people.


(yes i know its not necessarily reliable & yes i love to read gossipy mags on my lunch )

Fink Goddie

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I'd say it's fairly even.



Would I cheat if nobody found out? Yes.
Has somebody found out that I cheated before? Yes.
Have I cheated since? Yes.

I never feel bad when I go off with someone else, obviously I don't wanna be with the person I cheated on

So do you believe once i cheater always a cheater??

Raze_them_all

Everyone cheats at some stage. People not like to think it but they do.

Fink Goddie

sorrywhat wrote: »

That only counts if they are on your wish list. If they aint on the list you cant bang them!

I'll make my wishlist very long so

jellie wrote: »

Just to balance it up - i just read a piece in Now magazine* about Angelina Jolie cheating on Brad Pitt. He is one of the hottest men in the world.

But.. he cheated on Jennifer Aniston who is - or at least was at the time - one of the hottest women in the world.

So yeah. people cheat. not everyone, but you cant confine it to celebs or to men or to women. its everywhere.

& in response to the question - no i wouldnt. ive had it done to me & its one of the most horrible feelings ive ever gone through. i dont see the point in being with someone if you want to be with other people.


(yes i know its not necessarily reliable & yes i love to read gossipy mags on my lunch )

Oooh did she, Ah he's getting a bit old now though i'd do the dirt on him too LOL

I'm not really confining it to celebs, i'm saying that most men maybe women would cheat if they had the same opportunities that celebs have.

sorrywhat

Fink Goddie wrote: »

So do you believe once i cheater always a cheater??

Yes.

If you cheated on current boyfriend/girlfriend with some guy/girl and then dumped current boyfriend/girlfriend for said guy/girl look at they way that relationship started. As a lie.

Fink Goddie

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Everyone cheats at some stage. People not like to think it but they do.

Yeh i'd agree, and i dont believe that once a cheater always a cheater for most people too, there are some exceptions obviously.

Fink Goddie

sorrywhat wrote: »

Yes.

If you cheated on current boyfriend/girlfriend with some guy/girl and then dumped current boyfriend/girlfriend for said guy/girl look at they way that relationship started. As a lie.

I'd say more a timing difference than a lie!

sorrywhat

Fink Goddie wrote: »

I'd say more a timing difference than a lie!

Nah I wouldnt look at it like that.

If the cheater started the new relationship like that who's not to say they will do the exact same thing with the new partner.

panda100

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Seems like pretty much every celeb male has cheated, examples being Tiger Woods, David Beckham, good looking girls throwing themselves at them all the time.

Would you cheat if you thought you would get away with it and your OH would never find out and noone would ever know.


The guy/girl is really hot and mad after you, would you??

Yes definately. Im not a big believer in monogomy and its natural wanting to shag someone your sexually attracted to.
I would cheat If it was purely about sex,but If I was in love with the person I was cheating with then I would break off my current relationship.

I think Wibbs is pretty spot on when it comes to celebs and cheating.

Fink Goddie

sorrywhat wrote: »

Nah I wouldnt look at it like that.

If the cheater started the new relationship like that who's not to say they will do the exact same thing with the new partner.

Whos to say they wont, who's to say they just liked you better than the person they were with before they met you.
If they cheated with you and then left the partner straight away i'd say fair enough, if they were two timing then thats another story altogether.

Cheating isn't in my personality.
I only have relationships with people I care about, and respect. I couldn't **** over some I felt like that about.
If I felt a strong desire to cheat, I would take that as indication that my relationship was past its sell by date. And bail before I started something else.

Tar.Aldarion

No, it's not something I could do to somebody I love, it's a disgusting thing to hurt somebody like that. Break up with them if you are going to do that.

Fink Goddie

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

No, it's not something I could do to somebody I love, it's a disgusting thing to hurt somebody like that. Break up with them if you are going to do that.

Its not always intended though, just happens. A lot of the times drink is involved too

NothingMan

Panda110 wrote: »

I would cheat If it was purely about sex

That's horrible, I can almost understand cheating if it was a spur of the moment thing. But to say that you would cheat in advance of having the opportunity is pretty cold hearted.

If you are currently in a relationship then you obviously shouldn't be.

Wibbs

sorrywhat wrote: »

Yes.

If you cheated on current boyfriend/girlfriend with some guy/girl and then dumped current boyfriend/girlfriend for said guy/girl look at they way that relationship started. As a lie.

You know, I would have felt that way too a few years back and emotionally I would still do so, but I have seen a large percentage of couples who start in exactly that way. Id nearly go so far as to say 1/3 do to some degree.

I think it plugs into the notion of unfairness and karma for some. The idea that this will come back to haunt the couple. Yes it may. Mostly because of the personality quirk that may operate like that cant sustain a long termer or if they do it'll be a crap one when the honeymoon ends. BUt objectively I think thats about it.

One of the longest running couples I know started with serious incredibly hurtful and nasty cheating on both sides with ex partners(one of which was a broken woman after it for many years). Of course now they downplay it. not the sort of thing to tell your grandkids. "oh yes your grannie was a cheating bitch and I was a immoral weak manwhore and here we are 50yrs later".

People's memories are short and selective and everyone writes their own legends, agendas and history. Or maybe Im being particularly cynical today

extra-ordinary_

Panda110 wrote: »

If I was in love with the person I was cheating with then I would break off my current relationship.

Is it taken from this that you're currently in a relationship with someone you don't love?

Tar.Aldarion

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Its not always intended though, just happens. A lot of the times drink is involved too

What's not intended...a kiss...sex?
BS to me, people control themselves. If I thought I would cheat when drinking I wouldn't drink. During my last relationship, 3 years, there was so many people I turned down flat and my god I didn't want to (: , gf wouldn't have known, she lived across teh country. Just don't think it's fair to do that to somebody, and I should have control over what I do. I'm not saying I couldn't forgive somebody for it, just there is no excuse to do it in my mind.

Fink Goddie

extra-ordinary_ wrote: »

Is it taken from this that you're currently in a relationship with someone you don't love?

I'm sure loads of people are in relationships with people they dont love.
Not everyone gets into relationships for the same reasons.

It may be because your lonely, bored, money reasons, sex, for fun, its not always about marriage and spening the rest of your life with the person.

Novella

Would I cheat if no one was ever gonna find out? Nope, that isn't something that'd motivate me to cheat on a partner at all. In fact, I am one of those people who is highly likely to cave under guilt and admit that I've been unfaithful.

I have cheated before, on a serious boyfriend and I did end up telling him. He was upset, obviously but we did continue the relationship. However, a few months later, I ended things with him because it was never the same for me.

I also don't believe that everyone cheats. Maybe I live in some kinda fantasy world but imo, that is BS. It's like saying, "Oh, everyone skydives at some point". No, they don't. I think to cheat, you have to have the personality trait to be able to close off the fact that you are hurting another person and I honestly believe not everyone is capable of that.

As for celebs, Wibbs has that one all summed up.

sorrywhat

Fink Goddie wrote: »

its not always about marriage and spening the rest of your life with the person.

Thats such a sh!t outlook on life. If a person thinks like that they shouldnt be in a relationship full stop.

Lia_lia

No. Absolutely no way I could ever cheat. Even if my partner (or anyone) would 100% never find out.

I think it's because my parents broke up because my Dad was having an affair for a few years, and that had on big impact on my childhood or whatever. Plus the whole conscience/karma thing.

And this whole "drunken kiss that just happens" thing is bs! You can still regain some amount of self control when you are hammered drunk.

Fink Goddie

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

What's not intended...a kiss...sex?
BS to me, people control themselves. If I thought I would cheat when drinking I wouldn't drink. During my last relationship, 3 years, there was so many people I turned down flat and my god I didn't want to (: , gf wouldn't have known, she lived across teh country. Just don't think it's fair to do that to somebody, and I should have control over what I do. I'm not saying I couldn't forgive somebody for it, just there is no excuse to do it in my mind.

But sometimes you get drunker than you should or than you intended and drink does alter things. Makes you not really think of the consequences as much, thats my experience of it.

sorrywhat wrote: »

Thats such a sh!t outlook on life. If a person thinks like that they shouldnt be in a relationship full stop.

So every relationship you've ever had was with a view to staying with that person forever, you never went out with someone for a bit of fun no??

Novella

Fink Goddie wrote: »

So every relationship you've ever had was with a view to staying with that person forever, you never went out with someone for a bit of fun no??

I've never went out with someone for a bit of fun anyway. If I want a bit of fun, I have a FWB. When I go out with someone, it's not really that I think "til death do us part" or whatever, just take each day as it comes, but it does mean that I'm in for more than the fun.

Fink Goddie

Lia_lia wrote: »

And this whole "drunken kiss that just happens" thing is bs! You can still regain some amount of self control when you are hammered drunk.

Depends on how hammered you are, drink effects different people in different ways.

If you feel bad for doing it next morning when you're sober then obviously the drink effected your decision in the first place

panda100

NothingMan wrote: »

That's horrible, I can almost understand cheating if it was a spur of the moment thing. But to say that you would cheat in advance of having the opportunity is pretty cold hearted.

If you are currently in a relationship then you obviously shouldn't be.

Eeeek,Im not a cold hearted person at all!Im very loving,warm and affectionate, I swear! I guess everyone just has differnet opinions on what is a healthy relationships or what constiutes cheating.

My last boyfriend I was head over heels in love with and the opportunity arose once or twice for me to sleep with an aquaintance who I always had great sex with. I was still head over heels for my boyfriend but I enjoyed an hour of two of physical pleasure with someone I was very sexualy attracted too,thats all.

If I was going out with Tar.Aldrion for example then I would not do this as I know he/she would have strong feeligns towards cheating. I would talk openly with my patner about what the boundaries are.
Personally, I have a very liberal approach to relationships and my patners would be aware of this.

sorrywhat

Fink Goddie wrote: »

So every relationship you've ever had was with a view to staying with that person forever, you never went out with someone for a bit of fun no??

Ive never been in a relationship for a bit of fun. Ive had casual flings but I wouldnt have called them my boyfriend.

If its just a bit of fun, its not a relationship. Its casual,its sex, no responsabilities. When you start feeling more and wanting more then its a relationship.

Fink Goddie

Novella wrote: »

I've never went out with someone for a bit of fun anyway. If I want a bit of fun, I have a FWB. When I go out with someone, it's not really that I think "til death do us part" or whatever, just take each day as it comes, but it does mean that I'm in for more than the fun.

Not everyone does that though. It might turn into something serious after a while but a lot of people just go out with each other for fun at the start.

NothingMan

Panda110 wrote: »

Eeeek,Im not a cold hearted person at all!Im very loving,warm and affectionate, I swear! I guess everyone just has differnet opinions on what is a healthy relationships or what constiutes cheating.

My last boyfriend I was head over heels in love with and the opportunity arose once or twice for me to sleep with an aquaintance who I always had great sex with. I was still head over heels for my boyfriend but I enjoyed an hour of two of physical pleasure with someone I was very sexualy attracted too,thats all.

If I was going out with Tar.Aldrion for example then I would not do this as I know he/she would have strong feeligns towards cheating. I would talk openly with my patner about what the boundaries are.
Personally, I have a very liberal approach to relationships and my patners would be aware of this.

Well if you had previously decided with your boyfriend that it was ok to have sex with other people then it's not really cheating, as it's in the boundaries of the relationship.

Obviously I would hope these weren't ideals that you held and expected your partner to be 100% faithful. Out of curiousity would you discuss your other sexual encounters with your bf who you are in love with?

Fink Goddie

Panda110 wrote: »

My last boyfriend I was head over heels in love with and the opportunity arose once or twice for me to sleep with an aquaintance who I always had great sex with. I was still head over heels for my boyfriend but I enjoyed an hour of two of physical pleasure with someone I was very sexualy attracted too,thats all.

Ooh best of both worlds, i like your style girl LOL

jellie

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Everyone cheats at some stage. People not like to think it but they do.

eh. what?

Raze_them_all

jellie wrote: »

eh. what?

Everybody cheats on somebody at some stage. I thought that was pretty clear from that post.

Lia_lia

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Depends on how hammered you are, drink effects different people in different ways.

If you feel bad for doing it next morning when you're sober then obviously the drink effected your decision in the first place

Well, therefore you shouldn't drink and get really hammered if you are in serious relationship where someone trusts you not to cheat.

manofmagic31

Panda110 wrote: »

Eeeek,Im not a cold hearted person at all!Im very loving,warm and affectionate, I swear! I guess everyone just has differnet opinions on what is a healthy relationships or what constiutes cheating.

My last boyfriend I was head over heels in love with and the opportunity arose once or twice for me to sleep with an aquaintance who I always had great sex with. I was still head over heels for my boyfriend but I enjoyed an hour of two of physical pleasure with someone I was very sexualy attracted too,thats all.

If I was going out with Tar.Aldrion for example then I would not do this as I know he/she would have strong feeligns towards cheating. I would talk openly with my patner about what the boundaries are.
Personally, I have a very liberal approach to relationships and my patners would be aware of this.

ok a few quesions here

if you were head over heels why did you cheat?

or maybe your boyfriend was ok with it? you guys had consented to an open relationship? if not did you tell him and would you be ok if he did same?

you see i am fascinated with the whole notion of open or "liberal" relationships, they strike me as self-destructive and in my view would only appeal to thoe who fear intimacy, have been seriously badly hurt in the past or are just selfish and want to have their cake and eat it. i don't think these people are suited to relationships, instead i think this behaviour is more suited to flings and one-nighters. nothing wrong with that but let's not dress that up as something it isn't.

A relationship is based on trust, intimacy, love, getting to know and understand another deeply beyond mere casual urges....not just sex and hanging out occassionally

sorrywhat

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Ooh best of both worlds, i like your style girl LOL

I cant repspond to that the way I'd like to for fear of been banned.

Raze_them_all

manofmagic31 wrote: »

ok a few quesions here

if you were head over heels why did you cheat?

or maybe your boyfriend was ok with it? you guys had consented to an open relationship? if not did you tell him and would you be ok if he did same?

you see i am fascinated with the whole notion of open or "liberal" relationships, they strike me as self-destructive and in my view would only appeal to thoe who fear intimacy, have been seriously badly hurt in the past or are just selfish and want to have their cake and eat it. i don't think these people are suited to relationships, instead i think this behaviour is more suited to flings and one-nighters. nothing wrong with that but let's not dress that up as something it isn't.

A relationship is based on trust, intimacy, love, getting to know and understand another deeply beyond mere casual urges....not just sex and hanging out occassionally

Thats a **** buddy/friend with benefits. Open relationships are great, you can't actually judge what they're like unless you were in one. I prefer open ones, I actually find I sleep with less people when I'm in an open relationship than an exclusive one as the temptation isn't there as much