Play TV on TV3 "misleading, dishonest and unfair"

alex73

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THE broadcasting watchdog has upheld a string of complaints from angry viewers who claimed that a late-night quiz show on TV3 was "misleading, dishonest and unfair".

Among the complaints made against 'Play TV' were that viewers were misled that there was a €32,000 jackpot up for grabs, when the eventual winner won a prize of only €1,000.

The complaints committee of the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (BAI) upheld 10 complaints against 'Play TV' but rejected a further three.

One viewer, Mark Nagle, told how he spent nearly €20 calling the show -- at €1.50 a time -- to answer a riddle correctly, but was never given the chance to answer the puzzle on screen.

Each time, he was informed by a recorded voice that he was "very close" to having his call answered by the studio and to "please try again". The call was then disconnected.

Misleading

Mr Nagle said that during the 15 minutes he was repeatedly calling the show, not one call was answered on air, so his calls were not being blocked by others. A winner was only heard on air in the show's last seconds.

In its response, TV3 said an on-screen ticker made it clear to viewers that more than one call might be required to get through to the presenter live on air.

It added that since May 2009 the programme had given out €400,000 in prize money.

The station also claimed that the format of using a premium-rate telephone line and answering a question was used by a large number of other shows and cited RTE's 'The Late Late Show' as an example.

However, the BAI found that there was a "fundamental difference" between the two as on the 'Late Late' a winner was selected at random, whereas on 'Play TV' a random selection determined whether a viewer got to participate or not.

Another viewer, Gerry Brennan, told how he entered a quiz in which a photo was shown of the Irish soccer team and the audience was asked to "add all the numbers in the picture".

However, the right answer, 389, was achieved through counting Roman and Arabic numerals, which were also visible. The BAI said the presentation of the quiz was misleading.

Meanwhile, three complaints were upheld against Newstalk's 'The Wide Angle' over its biased coverage of the Lisbon Treaty referendum on September 13.

It was found to have given a "one-sided viewpoint" and prominence to the 'Yes' side after it failed to include a 'No' campaigner on its discussion panel

I had a little too much to drink one night and watched Play TV on TV3, I thought I knew the riddle so I called, but I was not one of the lucky ones. Anyone else been been a victim of their "misleading, disonest and unfair" quizshow?

OutlawPete

Was in the news today actually..

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0127/1224263210685.html

starbelgrade

alex73 wrote: »

I had a little too much to drink one night and watched Play TV on TV3, I thought I knew the riddle so I called, but I was not one of the lucky ones. Anyone else been been a victim of their "misleading, disonest and unfair" quizshow?

No - no more than I have not been daft enough to ring up Psyhics Live to discover my future. The only apt word in the above quote, is "victim".

Sharpshooter

There is no discussion of Play TV allowed in After Hours.

This is the only thread where you can discuss this subject.

Please read the opening post.

Thanks.

TheZohanS

Folks please bear with us, I would imagine that this is only a temporary closing of the thread given the fact that the BCI have published their results and they themselves have found that "Play TV" have acted in a "misleading, dishonest and unfair" manner and could face fines of up to €250,000.

TheZohanS

Thread re-opened.

stepbar

krustydoyle wrote: »

preys on people who less fortunate than others.. it needs to be shut down cos with the country in a bad way people are stuck for money so the ***** are making a profit out of peoples misery.. :mad::mad:

whats worse is why are they allowed to operate when its clear that its all a scam?????

Are people being forced to play the game against their will?

Would you cop yourself on. People who enter those shows deserve to get ripped off, especially when they state not every call will get through to the studio!!!!!!!!!!

What the fcuk is wrong with people? Are they devoid of taking any responcibility for their actions anymore?

Fair enough if the games themselves are misleading, as in you'd never be able to get the right answer. That's not fair. But anything else is fair game. It's a form of competition not a charity.

bonerm

I hate the bit of the "show" where the bitchy looking redhead starts shouting at the producer that a particular question is too hard and that they should drop it for something else.

First time I saw it I thought it might be real but then the next night I noticed she was doing the exact same thing for a different question. Clearly the whole nights run must be scripted and paced down to the last detail (eg when the shows opening question always gets a cash prize in the fist minute). Therefore I can't believe that anyone watching it regularily could fail to spot what's going on?

On another note I think I might actually have had sympathy for the show if the women on it didn't all look like such skanks.

ball

That show was kinda like Quizmania on C4

Ah memories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzJotjN2imQ

mikom

TheZohan wrote: »

and could face fines of up to €250,000.

A weeks takings for them I bet.

Ann22

This programme annoys me beyond reason! See the black haired one? This is the way she goes on...Say there's an easy spot the difference..

'right guys, production are out of order here, this is far too hard. I can't see it myself, production..do you hear me, this is not on. Ok guys, this just me and you, we'll work it out together..they look exactly the same to me guys, it's so unfair, production you have to change it, give us a clue or something. Guys, concentrate on each part of the picture.'
Then someone eventually gets through and gets it right and your one goes..'oh yeah it's the flower on the left, that's right and the fence, yeah..well done'..

Does she think we're all total tits? F**K she's sooo irritating!!
Recently I see they have the number of calls on the bottom of the screen..but only within the last minute. Good to see it..a while back the hosts were saying stuff like 'c'mon I can't believe no one's rung while hundreds are frantically screaming at the tv...'WE ARE...WE'RE RINGING FFS!!!!':rolleyes:

baalthor

However, the right answer, 389, was achieved through counting Roman and Arabic numerals, which were also visible

I heard Matt Cooper joking about the Arabic numerals yesterday.

These are "Arabic" numerals: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

It's the Roman numerals that made the problem hard

There's an identical program on UTV, presumably run by the same company. I like the red haired girl on it, I think she's a former Miss Northern Ireland.

Mars Bar

alex73 wrote: »

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I had a little too much to drink one night and watched Play TV on TV3, I thought I knew the riddle so I called, but I was not one of the lucky ones. Anyone else been been a victim of their "misleading, disonest and unfair" quizshow?

My Dad won €300 on it and I got through and had my name and my answer up on the board for one of the quizzes. Some guy called Craig was closer to the answer so he won the €4000...bastard.

wylo

I had to laugh when I was listening to Matt Cooper the other day, he had a representative on his show trying to defend play TV, he insisted there was a limit on the amount of times you can enter. Cooper asked him what was the limit, I was honestly expecting it be 5 or something like that, yourman said 50!!! I reckon Matt Cooper was actually trying to hold in his laugh.

bonerm

ball wrote: »

That show was kinda like Quizmania on C4

Ah memories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzJotjN2imQ

Speccy-Goon : "You're in this studio in my shoes in this at this precise moment. What would you say?"

How about ... "Oh god, what am I doing? I'm a spawny cúnt. Everyone who works on this show is a cúnt. I'm gonna go backstage now, put a shotgun in my mouth and blow a large hole through the top of my head in order to make the world a slightly better place for 5 seconds."

jd007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEj19KUVzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7NeuzP81Ks

lol

Our man in Havana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYzBPv7G84

Compare the written text to the voiceover.

The voiceover did not read out the words "dishonest" and "unfair" in paragraph 1. Also "And Quizzes were conducted unfairly" was omitted from the last paragraph by the voiceover.

Draw your own conclusions.

JONJO THE MISER

Is it Ghostbusters 2:D.

Smcgie

I wish this would happen to that ginger'un on Play TV! :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0iDBGtVoaU

Degag

stepbar wrote: »

Are people being forced to play the game against their will?

Would you cop yourself on. People who enter those shows deserve to get ripped off, especially when they state not every call will get through to the studio!!!!!!!!!!

What the fcuk is wrong with people? Are they devoid of taking any responcibility for their actions anymore?

Fair enough if the games themselves are misleading, as in you'd never be able to get the right answer. That's not fair. But anything else is fair game. It's a form of competition not a charity.

Thats very unfair imo. There are people out there with legitimate problems when it comes to gambling, and this would be classified as gambling. Most people who ring in have answers which are plausable. Often the answers Play Tv have are not. Just have a read through the thread in Gameshows and Quizzes to see. If people lost their money in a transparent way, nobody could have a problem. If the quizzes were fair and had plausable answers whose solutions were posted on the website, there would not be a problem.

ProjectColossus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve2-2Aeclxk

Barrel Roll.

Degag

I forgot to mention that Eamon Ryan was on Matt Cooper tonight discussing this and he admitted to ringing up Play TV 15 times on one night without ever getting through cueing much pisstaking from Cooper such as "What does your Wife think of it?" and "Are you putting it on your expenses account?" etc.

parasite

so, when does it become fraud ?

AlmightyCushion

Guys, leave the libellous remarks out of this thread or it will get locked. I won't rule out bans either. I really hate to be a cúnt about it but when ever these threads come up they always bring libellous crap that could land boards in trouble.

phasers

They regularly have games that say "Find the only difference" and there'll be like 15 differences in the bloody picture! Ridiculous carry on all round, another retarded game is where people have to ring in and guess a thing that the presenter thinks of. Bit broad like?

stepbar

Degag_ wrote: »

Thats very unfair imo. There are people out there with legitimate problems when it comes to gambling, and this would be classified as gambling. Most people who ring in have answers which are plausable. Often the answers Play Tv have are not. Just have a read through the thread in Gameshows and Quizzes to see. If people lost their money in a transparent way, nobody could have a problem. If the quizzes were fair and had plausable answers whose solutions were posted on the website, there would not be a problem.

You might want to read my post again. Look gamblers are gamblers. What ever avenue they take they still have a problem. They need help. Its up to the person to get that help. If the game is unfair or misleading i have a prob. Otherwise its fair game.

oppenheimer1

Bond-007 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYzBPv7G84

Compare the written text to the voiceover.

The voiceover did not read out the words "dishonest" and "unfair" in paragraph 1. Also "And Quizzes were conducted unfairly" was omitted from the last paragraph by the voiceover.

Draw your own conclusions.

Not good enough, They should be made rebroadcast that properly before their main news bulletin and before their show for a week.

billy the squid

Their caller numbers has taken a serious hit in the last two days.

Degag

stepbar wrote: »

You might want to read my post again. Look gamblers are gamblers. What ever avenue they take they still have a problem. They need help. Its up to the person to get that help. If the game is unfair or misleading i have a prob. Otherwise its fair game.

Problem is, in most other avenues, gamblers have a chance to win. In this, they don't.

Forest Master

phasers wrote: »

They regularly have games that say "Find the only difference" and there'll be like 15 differences in the bloody picture! Ridiculous carry on all round, another retarded game is where people have to ring in and guess a thing that the presenter thinks of. Bit broad like?

Except you exaggerated & embellished both of those examples.

1) I've seen some of those 'spot the difference' puzzles, and there's only ever one difference. There were no BCC complaints about that particular game either.
2) It's never just something that the presenter is "thinking of" - it's always written down in a white envelope that's on display behind him/her.

I'm not defending the show, even though a do believe people should be responsible for their own stupidity & actions, BUT there's no need to just make stuff up either.

happyfriday

I hate this show not only do they rip you off (which now even the BAI have ruled) but this is not TV it's just lazy and greedy. Is there no such thing as good programs on TV anymore, it's either reality bulls**t or now this kind of crap. It really is time to get rid of the TV now!!

phasers

Forest Master wrote: »

Except you exaggerated & embellished both of those examples.

1) I've seen some of those 'spot the difference' puzzles, and there's only ever one difference. There were no BCC complaints about that particular game either.

If you check the Playtv thread, you'll see that there has been a few occasions where there has been more than one difference. I'm talking about those pictures of 16 ladybirds or whatever.

2) It's never just something that the presenter is "thinking of" - it's always written down in a white envelope that's on display behind him/her.

Fair enough, the callers have to think of a thing written in a white envelope that is on display behind the presenter. Not seeing a big difference here.

By the way are you JG Murphy? I miss him, stopped watching when he left.

The Master

The black haired presenter Lauren Bannon is fooking gorgeous.

Show is a joke though

coup1917

Degag_ wrote: »

I forgot to mention that Eamon Ryan was on Matt Cooper tonight discussing this and he admitted to ringing up Play TV 15 times on one night without ever getting through cueing much pisstaking from Cooper such as "What does your Wife think of it?" and "Are you putting it on your expenses account?" etc.

Some goverment minister Eamon Ryan is...........!!
Heard him on Matt Cooper alright, ringing Play TV 15 times.....He said he was asked who the lead singer of U2 was...When he was told Bono was incorrect he kept ringing in..........Took I while for the penny to drop Eamo.......:rolleyes: When people are gonna ring in like this, of course they'll get ripped off.........Shows like this have been on late nite ITV for years.
Win a few grand for solving a simple puzzle..........Money for nothing.....What could be wrong with that...........Some people are there for the taking..

JimDean

alex73 wrote: »

Anyone else been been a victim of their "misleading, disonest and unfair" quizshow?

NO, because it was clearly obvious that the show was "misleading, dishonest and unfair".

Here, do PLAY TV make you pick up the phone and ring in??

Mimikyu

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Our man in Havana

Some interesting stuff up on Wiki about some of the games. Don't know how true they are but interesting if they are.

100% true.

Dymo

coup1917 wrote: »

Some goverment minister Eamon Ryan is...........!!
Heard him on Matt Cooper alright, ringing Play TV 15 times.....He said he was asked who the lead singer of U2 was...When he was told Bono was incorrect he kept ringing in..........Took I while for the penny to drop Eamo.......:rolleyes:

Why so many dots and does it make you feel you get your false information across better? and NO Eamon Ryan was not told he was incorrect he was told he didn't make it through to the presenter and to try again.:rolleyes:

omahaid

From wikipedia

"Derval Mellett, from north-south Dublin but for the past few years she has been splitting her time between London and Dublin. She received her education at Dun Laoghaire Institute of Art, Design & Technology and the Royal Welsh College of Music & Drama in Cardiff. Due to being a ginger, Mellett is often ridiculed by the other presenters of the programme."

thomond2006

Brilliant quote from George Hook on his twitter page:

http://twitter.com/ghook

Play TV - after watching more episodes of the Shield last night I looked at TV3 - only neandertals could telephone and think they could win

bryaner

I must say it's the best sleeping tablet ever, 8 mins approx and I'm out

for the count..

Forest Master

Whatever happened to "A fool and his money are easily parted" and "Let the buyer beware"?
Why do we always have to cater to the lowest common denominator?

Dudess

There was a consumer piece about this on the radio the other day - the quiz answers are hilarious. Example:

Name an item commonly found in a kitchen.

Answer: a marshmallow

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

thomond2006 wrote: »

Brilliant quote from George Hook on his twitter page:

http://twitter.com/ghook

I disagree with Mr Hook on this one. In fact, I challenge him to find one genuine Neanderthal who phoned in thinking he could win.

Donny5

Dudess wrote: »

There was a consumer piece about this on the radio the other day - the quiz answers are hilarious. Example:

Name an item commonly found in a kitchen.

Answer: a marshmallow

The best I've seen so far was a puzzle where the number 2185 was spelt out with matches. The goal was to arrive at the highest number by moving exactly two matches, which turned out to be 2^1E5, or 2^100000, or approximately 9.99002093014384507944032764330033590980429139054181 x 10^30102. In decimal, the number is 30103 digits long.

That, m'lady, is a puzzle.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Donny5 wrote: »

The best I've seen so far was a puzzle where the number 2185 was spelt out with matches. The goal was to arrive at the highest number by moving exactly two matches, which turned out to be 2^1E5, or 2^100000, or approximately 9.99002093014384507944032764330033590980429139054181 x 10^30102. In decimal, the number is 30103 digits long.

That, m'lady, is a puzzle.

There is a certain element of genius in that, to be fair!

thomond2006

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I disagree with Mr Hook on this one. In fact, I challenge him to find one genuine Neanderthal who phoned in thinking he could win.

Hooky did a Q&A session a few weeks ago on the rugby forum: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055817876

Maybe you can challenge him when he comes on again.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hooky did a Q&A session a few weeks ago on the rugby forum: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055817876

Maybe you can challenge him when he comes on again.

I did not know that! Although I'd probably have been banned for going OT if I had asked.

grrrrrrrrrr

ye do realise theres an extremely long thread in quizes and gameshows in television on this very matter!!
over 1000 pages, fact!!

check it out

Sharpshooter

grrrrrrrrrr wrote: »

ye do realise theres an extremely long thread in quizes and gameshows in television on this very matter!!
over 1000 pages, fact!!

check it out

I did.

You have 51 posts in there since the 16th of this month, out of 214 overall since you joined 11 days ago.;)

OutlawPete

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I did.

You have 51 posts in there since the 16th of this month, out of 214 overall since you joined 11 days ago.;)

Is there away to be able to find out how many After Hours posts that a poster has made?