Buy me a 2010 estate, diesel.

kyote00

my requirements

- Emissions category B (i.e. tax about 156 per annum)
- strong safety features (abs,ebd,vehicle stability)
- estate
- diesel
- bullet proof reliabilty
- low service cost
- space for 2 adults and 2 kids (sub 5 => lots of stuff to carry)
- budget max 30k

meercat

Check out skoda superb. Great reviews in motor section of boards

bungler

meercat wrote: »

Check out skoda superb. Great reviews in motor section of boards

Ditto

kyote00

thanks. Can't seem to find a 'estate' version of the superb on carzone ???

EPM

Not for sale yet

Casati

Superb estate is not launched yet, but will not fall into Band B, Greenline with miserable 105 bhp tractor engine will manage Band C, and the better common rail engines only band D

New Avensis fits the bill completely as described while not being underpowered unlike some of the green competition- C5 1.6 HDI, Laguna 1.5 DCI, Passat 1.6 TDI.

meercat

Have a look under skoda superb wow thread here on boards. Some pics. New car out march I think. Looks great as an estate.

CharlieCroker

€8000 under budget
€156 road tax
7 year warranty

http://www.carzone.ie/search/KIA/Ceed/SW-EX-1./200945195733978/advert?channel=CARS



or


a new good spec 1.6tdi is approx €25k

kyote00

Thanks. Interesting choices.

The KIA only has ABS and EBD (and not stability control) and the airbag quota seems less than others (6ish??). Also the load capacity of the boot is only 340litres....

Skoda is NCAP 4. Nice big load space. Looks interesting -- onto the list...is 1.6 a bit asmatic ?

Berty

How about you buy it yourself OP??????

Berty

meercat wrote: »

Have a look under skoda superb wow thread here on boards. Some pics. New car out march I think. Looks great as an estate.

Superb Estate Elegance will be around €27,900 for a 1.9TDi. Rumour is you see they will be around €1500 more than the Saloon and the best price I got for a 1.9TDi was €26,400 and a few cents.

The 2.0TDi 170BHP Elgeance is around €2,200 more so just in on budget. They are talking about being available from Late Feb but expect it to be delivered around March or so.

kyote00

Berty, Consider it a test of your intelligence - so far you are bottom of the pile with no suggestions....:D ( only joking of course...)

Berty wrote: »

How about you buy it yourself OP??????

kyote00

Thanks.

Whats the emissions of this 170Bhp version --- I'm trying to keep the annual car tax down to Cat B as I will probably keep the car for a good few years....

Berty wrote: »

Superb Estate Elegance will be around €27,900 for a 1.9TDi. Rumour is you see they will be around €1500 more than the Saloon and the best price I got for a 1.9TDi was €26,400 and a few cents.

The 2.0TDi 170BHP Elgeance is around €2,200 more so just in on budget. They are talking about being available from Late Feb but expect it to be delivered around March or so.

Berty

€302 P/A

See here

http://new.skoda-auto.com/IRL/Documents/New_Superb/Superb%20Price%20Spec.pdf

Not the DSG Version which is the Auto.

knifey_spoonie

The Avensis tourer 2.0 diesel band B 130 bhp, and it aint bad looking for an estate


or

The insigna, bit more expensive tho'

ninty9er

Breaking 2 rules here:

Cold you stretch to €302 [band c] motor tax and €31k for a Mazda 6 2.2D 185Bhp:D:D

Skoda Octavia Combi Elegance 1.6 TDI 105 Bhp - €24k

Seat Exeo ST - 2.0 TDI 143 Bhp - €30k [ Band C - sorry ]

Citroen C5 Tourer 1.6 HDi 110 Bhp - €31k - easily get it for €30k

Renault Laguna Tourer 1.5 dCi 110 Bhp - €30k

Jag X-Type 2.0d estate - €31k [ Band C ]

Toyota Avensis (Aura base spec only) 2.0 D4-D 125 Bhp - €26.5k

Opel Insignia is over budget and Mondeo is in band C and over €32k but not as "special" as any of the above

kyote00

thanks.

So far, I see the Skoda Superb and Toyota Avensis as the leaders based on my criteria....

kyote00

I will elimnate the Jag for reliability and taste reasons/
I will eliminatre Renualt and Citroen because of Thierry Henry:P

ninty9er wrote: »

Breaking 2 rules here:

Cold you stretch to €302 [band c] motor tax and €31k for a Mazda 6 2.2D 185Bhp:D:D

Skoda Octavia Combi Elegance 1.6 TDI 105 Bhp - €24k

Seat Exeo ST - 2.0 TDI 143 Bhp - €30k [ Band C - sorry ]

Citroen C5 Tourer 1.6 HDi 110 Bhp - €31k - easily get it for €30k

Renault Laguna Tourer 1.5 dCi 110 Bhp - €30k

Jag X-Type 2.0d estate - €31k [ Band C ]

Toyota Avensis (Aura base spec only) 2.0 D4-D 125 Bhp - €26.5k

Opel Insignia is over budget and Mondeo is in band C and over €32k but not as "special" as any of the above

groupb

ninty9er wrote: »

Breaking 2 rules here:

Cold you stretch to €302 [band c] motor tax and €31k for a Mazda 6 2.2D 185Bhp:D:D

Skoda Octavia Combi Elegance 1.6 TDI 105 Bhp - €24k

Seat Exeo ST - 2.0 TDI 143 Bhp - €30k [ Band C - sorry ]

Citroen C5 Tourer 1.6 HDi 110 Bhp - €31k - easily get it for €30k

Renault Laguna Tourer 1.5 dCi 110 Bhp - €30k

Jag X-Type 2.0d estate - €31k [ Band C ]

Toyota Avensis (Aura base spec only) 2.0 D4-D 125 Bhp - €26.5k

Opel Insignia is over budget and Mondeo is in band C and over €32k but not as "special" as any of the above

But a much better car than all of the above;)

kyote00

hi groupb,

which car are you talking about and why is it better?

groupb wrote: »

But a much better car than all of the above;)

Seweryn

kyote00 wrote: »

my requirements

- Emissions category B (i.e. tax about 156 per annum)
- strong safety features (abs,ebd,vehicle stability)
- estate
- diesel
- bullet proof reliabilty
- low service cost
- space for 2 adults and 2 kids (sub 5 => lots of stuff to carry)
- budget max 30k

I would go for the Subaru Legacy Estate. Best car for the money.

blackiebest

Big Subaru fan but can you get a legacy for 30k? And surely not in Cat B

kyote00

Seems to be about €36995 for bogo spec....seems to be cat d also on efficiency label also ?

blackiebest wrote: »

Big Subaru fan but can you get a legacy for 30k? And surely not in Cat B

Seweryn

blackiebest wrote: »

Big Subaru fan but can you get a legacy for 30k? And surely not in Cat B

Yes, you can - there are some demo models advertised for less than 30k. Not sure about the tax band, but should be in the low range and even if it is a bit higher, it is a lot better car than anything for that kind of money.

groupb

kyote00 wrote: »

hi groupb,

which car are you talking about and why is it better?

The mondeo. Read any motoring journal to find out why its better.
Or better still , test drive one.

Casati

The Superb is band D, co2 on the estate is 160 g co2. The difference with this and say a car in Band B producing 130 g co2 will equate to almost 20% more fuel in real life

Insignia Ecoflex is a good option, 160 bhp and still in band B. With cash discount €30k is realistic too

Why is it that so many mainstream car manufacturers cant produce a 2.0 diesel with circa 150 bhp in Band B? Maybe the premium Audi/ BMW and now Mercedes makes really do offer premium engineering - between them they have lots of Band B options, BMW have the 320d with 161 bhp in Band A???

Berty

Insignia Elite 130ps €28,500.

EPM

kyote00 wrote: »

I will elimnate the Jag for reliability and taste reasons

It's actually a good un and surely you could swing a good price on a run out example.

TheColl

maybe slightly over budget, and not sure about tax band but...

http://www.carzone.ie/new-cars/Alfa-Romeo/159/1.9-JTDM-8V-TURISMO-SPORTWAGON/742169220090112/

P.C.

Seweryn wrote: »

I would go for the Subaru Legacy Estate. Best car for the money.

blackiebest wrote: »

Big Subaru fan but can you get a legacy for 30k? And surely not in Cat B

The only thing wrong with this one is the tax.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Subaru/Legacy/ESTATE-D/200840190233141/advert?channel=CARS

kyote00

It also have 13000km's on it so not really fair to compare it price wise....

Its a nice car, is it the boxer diesel I wonder ?

P.C. wrote: »

The only thing wrong with this one is the tax.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Subaru/Legacy/ESTATE-D/200840190233141/advert?channel=CARS