Lads we MIGHT be getting this UFC card!

rovert

Listening to Dave Meltzer talking on a members only audio show talking about the location UFC 112 (April 10th) and Dublin is in the running with three other cities including Newcastle, Manchester and Abu Dhabi.

Going by Wikipedia the rumoured card looks like this:

According to Vitor Belfort's manager (Fabiano Farah). A bout between Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort has been confirmed for this event.

A bout between Matt Hughes and Renzo Gracie is likely to take place at this event after Gracie confirmed the fight. As of yet, no agreement has been signed.

A Lightweight Championship bout between BJ Penn and Frank Edgar has been confirmed by Penn.

Kendall Grove is expected to compete at this event, with an opponent to be determined.

Imagine as unlikely as it may be. :eek:

JoeyJJ

That card looks like a Las Vegas card, wonder would Silva have a problem travelling to these places for a title fight.

Locomotion

They announced that on mmajunkie too but announced that it would definitely be in Abu Dhabi

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17538/vitor-belforts-manager-confirms-ufc-112-abu-dhabi-title-fight-with-anderson-silva.mma

It's a great card but an small venue like the O2 would never play host to such a big UFC event. I'd say we were lucky getting Franklin Vs. Henderson when we did

rovert

Locomotion wrote: »

They announced that on mmajunkie too but announced that it would definitely be in Abu Dhabi

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17538/vitor-belforts-manager-confirms-ufc-112-abu-dhabi-title-fight-with-anderson-silva.mma

It's a great card but an small venue like the O2 would never play host to such a big UFC event. I'd say we were lucky getting Franklin Vs. Henderson when we did

Dana's changed his mind on Abu Dhabi it is less of a dead cert and more of a possibility now for some undisclosed reason according to Dave. All very weird.

I agreed with your other point btw.

scudzilla

If Dana has changed his mind about Abu Dhabi then Dublin will get the event over Newcastle and Manchester, Newcastle is too small and Manchester recently had an event.

Fromvert

The reason Dana gave for the doubt over Abu Dhabi is that there is nowhere to hold it. It would have to be outdoor which the UFC aren't to pushed on. Dana also said that they want to build an arena in Abu Dhabi for the UFC. Thats Flash want to build the arena. He talks about it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lha3Ls8-YKs

As well as saying there will be a press conference about Lesnar next week.
Very much doubt we would get that card.

Dancor

Would there be enough time to announce Dublin or anywhere outside of Vegas if Abu Dabai doesnt go ahead? Although id imagine a card like that would sell out very quickly regardless of where it is.

Plus WWE is on the night before in the o2, which id imagine would be UFC's first preferance for a show.

scudzilla

Just been checking out a few other sites, this card has Abu Dhabi written all over it and if it's gonna get moved anywhere then it'll be Vegas (Minus BJ of course who said he'll never fight there again)

rovert

Fromvert wrote: »

The reason Dana gave for the doubt over Abu Dhabi is that there is nowhere to hold it. It would have to be outdoor which the UFC aren't to pushed on. Dana also said that they want to build an arena in Abu Dhabi for the UFC. Thats Flash want to build the arena.

They could do it in a tent. :pac:

Thanks for the info.

Dancor wrote: »

Plus WWE is on the night before in the o2, which id imagine would be UFC's first preferance for a show.

Dont follow

scudzilla

rovert wrote: »

They could do it in a tent. :pac:

Thanks for the info.



Dont follow

I think he's on about the weigh ins for the Friday, couldn't have them at the O2 as WWE is there, Olympia's free and they did the weigh ins at a seperate site for 85 i think

We're all gettin ahead of ourselves here though, it's gonna be Abu Dhabi (95%) or Vegas (5%)

Mossy Monk

If Dublin got that I think I would do a sex wee in my pants.

Devastator

Locomotion wrote: »

They announced that on mmajunkie too but announced that it would definitely be in Abu Dhabi

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17538/vitor-belforts-manager-confirms-ufc-112-abu-dhabi-title-fight-with-anderson-silva.mma

It's a great card but an small venue like the O2 would never play host to such a big UFC event. I'd say we were lucky getting Franklin Vs. Henderson when we did

Well Renzo Gracis is The Abu Dabi prince(or whoever they sold chunk of UFC to) trainer. Renzo was present when Dana meet them...so I reckon its more of a foregone conclusion that Renzo's fight will be in Abu Dabi.

Think BJ already said thats where his next fight was aswell.

scudzilla wrote: »

Just been checking out a few other sites, this card has Abu Dhabi written all over it and if it's gonna get moved anywhere then it'll be Vegas (Minus BJ of course who said he'll never fight there again)

Can't see too much to argue with

Dancor

rovert wrote: »

Dont follow

Could UFC get the place set up in less than 24 hours for a PPV?

Perfect fit

Dancor wrote: »

Could UFC get the place set up in less than 24 hours for a PPV?

they were complaining in dublin they only had 3 days to set up instead of there usual 4

Maldini2706

I'm sure they have a conference centre or something they can re-jig in Abu Dhabi. I just found one with a 5,500 capacity. I'm sure they'd rather have it there in a small venue than here in a bigger one given the line-up and the recent deal with Flash.

unknown13

scudzilla wrote:

I think he's on about the weigh ins for the Friday, couldn't have them at the O2 as WWE is there, Olympia's free and they did the weigh ins at a seperate site for 85 i thinkWe're all gettin ahead of ourselves here though, it's gonna be Abu Dhabi (95%) or Vegas (5%)

The new theatre in the Docklands near the IFSC would be the venue, it has just over two thousand capacity. 95 103 and 104 were in other venues

Dancor wrote:

Could UFC get the place set up in less than 24 hours for a PPV?

104 and 107 they had 24 hours because there were basketball games on the night before.

Mossy Monk

The wrestling layout isn't that much different in the O2?

unknown13

Mossy Monk wrote: »

The wrestling layout isn't that much different in the O2?

The big worry will be the titrathron how long it will take to take it down. I seriously hope they don't bring the event a week before which will mean the weigh ins are on good friday.

mooeire

There ain't a hope it'll happen!!!

calex71

Sorry but I LOL at the suggestion that Anderson Silva fights @ a non PPV event which Dublin would be

bret69

Well to give it just a little more hope:

Anderson fought on free tv only 18 months ago, so that's not too hard to believe.

If it can't be in Abu Dhabi as speculated, we just MIGHT be lucky enough...

The Mandalay Bay is booked that night for a Muse concert so that's out. MGM Grand is booked out the night before for AC/DC, so the weight in's at least couldn't be held there (even though Dublin would have the same issue).

And we'd prob get the nod above Manchester & Newcastle.

"Best pound for pound crowd". Dana White

COME ON!!!

John Ferguson

Dont forget that the UFC isnt making their money from bums on seats, their reason for taking it around the globe is for pushing brand UFC into countries in order to get TV deals there. So the size of venue isnt always their no1 concern.

Mark

General Zod

unknown13 wrote: »

The big worry will be the titrathron how long it will take to take it down. I seriously hope they don't bring the event a week before which will mean the weigh ins are on good friday.

They don't use the titantron at house shows.

Mossy Monk

bret69 wrote: »

The Mandalay Bay is booked that night for a Muse concert so that's out. MGM Grand is booked out the night before for AC/DC,

Good two days to be in Vegas.

scudzilla

bret69 wrote: »

The Mandalay Bay is booked that night for a Muse concert so that's out. MGM Grand is booked out the night before for AC/DC

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Good two days to be in Vegas.

Yeah, first night on the lash, second night AC/DC ;)

Pride Fighter

calex71 wrote: »

Sorry but I LOL at the suggestion that Anderson Silva fights @ a non PPV event which Dublin would be

Anderson is one of the worst PPV draws in the UFC. It would not surprise me to him on free TV.

callaway92

calex71 wrote: »

Sorry but I LOL at the suggestion that Anderson Silva fights @ a non PPV event which Dublin would be

when did you start watching UFC/MMA?You do know UFC were in Dublin for UFC 93 January 2009 and it was PPV

Sid_Justice

Was the irish show actually a PPV in the states? I thought i read something saying, because it was on tape delay it wasn't ppv. maybe i'm completely wrong, im sure our mma scholar rovert will know

rovert

Sid_Justice wrote: »

Was the irish show actually a PPV in the states? I thought i read something saying, because it was on tape delay it wasn't ppv. maybe i'm completely wrong, im sure our mma scholar rovert will know

I hope that wasnt a dig.

Anyway UFC 93 was originally a TV special but it got upgraded to a PPV.

Sid_Justice

See I knew you'd know

Diabhal_Glas

I read somewhere about a month ago that Renzo was fighting for the first time in the UFC in Abu Dhabi

rovert

Diabhal_Glas wrote: »

I read somewhere about a month ago that Renzo was fighting for the first time in the UFC in Abu Dhabi

To capitalise on his god like status there was the reason. That he is buddies with UFC's new investor.

Mossy Monk

Sid_Justice wrote: »

because it was on tape delay it wasn't ppv.

I am pretty sure it was shown live at 3pm ET

callaway92

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I am pretty sure it was shown live at 3pm ET

if you are talking about UFC 93 you are right, it was shown live on PPV in America, no tape delay etc

Maldini2706

...and they still got 350,000 buys

scudzilla

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Anderson is one of the worst PPV draws in the UFC. It would not surprise me to him on free TV.

Until he gets some quality opposition who will test him then that will always be the case

callaway92

Maldini2706 wrote: »

...and they still got 350,000 buys

yes, and that was a number the UFC were very happy with especially since the card was pretty weak. UFC 108 a couple of weeks ago supposedly did in the region of 250,000 - 280,000 buys

Maldini2706

callaway92 wrote: »

yes, and that was a number the UFC were very happy with especially since the card was pretty weak. UFC 108 a couple of weeks ago supposedly did in the region of 250,000 - 280,000 buys

Yeah I meant that as a good thing. A card with no title, a headline that wasn't really that interesting, on at 3pm and they still got 350,000 buys. That's a really big deal.

scudzilla

Maldini2706 wrote: »

Yeah I meant that as a good thing. A card with no title, a headline that wasn't really that interesting, on at 3pm and they still got 350,000 buys. That's a really big deal.

I'd hardly call Franklin v Hendo not interesting!!

callaway92

scudzilla wrote: »

I'd hardly call Franklin v Hendo not interesting!!

It had no bearing on any title at the time and also was a pretty dull fight if I recall correctly

scudzilla

callaway92 wrote: »

It had no bearing on any title at the time and also was a pretty dull fight if I recall correctly

True it didn't have any bearing on a title shot, as for being a dull fight i've seen a lot duller headline fights (Evans v Bisping, Recent Silva fights). On paper it was an awesome match up that a lot of peeps had been wanting for a long time, it could have been better but was far from uninteresting

Maldini2706

I meant uninteresting in that it didn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Neither were going to get a title shot off the back of it or anything like that.

Mossy Monk

Dan Henderson become coach on TUF from it. Nothing is bigger than that. :pac:

unknown13

callaway92 wrote: »

It had no bearing on any title at the time and also was a pretty dull fight if I recall correctly

It wasn't that dull and it was a pritty good even fight. I can recall alot more main events which were worse [GSP / BJ, Silva / Leites, Machida / Evans, BJ / Florian].

callaway92

unknown13 wrote: »

It wasn't that dull and it was a pritty good even fight. I can recall alot more main events which were worse [GSP / BJ, Silva / Leites, Machida / Evans, BJ / Florian].

what?

scudzilla

callaway92 wrote: »

what?

yeah, they were 2 awesome fights!!

unknown13

callaway92 wrote: »

what?

Evans / Machida wasn't that good, first round Machida get the better of him then second round he stopped him.

BJ / Florian wasn't good at all Kenny tried to take him down from the clinch all the time and wouldn't stand with him then BJ had enough and took care of him in the fourth round.

Fracture

this is goin away off topic.

ahh any news on this event? if it came to dublin id love to get my hands on some tickets.

Blazher

Fracture wrote: »

this is goin away off topic.

ahh any news on this event? if it came to dublin id love to get my hands on some tickets.

You and everyone else!

Adjogranty

This aint going to happen guys. Next UFC we get is probably going to be a much lower caliber something like a wandi vs franklin rematch and its not going to be for ages, especially if the Hardy, Bisping and Daley runs keep going. BJ, Anderson on the same card is a vegas ppv or a first abu dhabi ppv.

Not excited about BJ / Edgar its going to be a rape, BJ needs to go to 170.

Maldini2706

BJ-Gomi might be a competitive fight if he can rediscover his forum of a few years back. Apart from that there's not many in the UFC that deserve to be in the cage with him. It's time for the UFC to up their recruitment drive. 155, 170 and 185 are all dominated at the moment.