Would you ever admit another man is attractive?

krudler

Well? I'm not gay, have no desire to be with another man, but why is seen as so wrong that men cant say another guy is attractive? women can say another woman is beautiful without being labelled a lesbian, but say you thought some celebrity was a good looking guy and your average group of males would instantly call you gay, there's plenty of actors or whoever that I could look at and think "christ thats a good looking man" without feeling threatened in my own sexuality, so lads, are you man enough to say you'd find another man attractive?

MagicMarker

Yes.

sam34

i'm a girl, and i've only ever heard one straight man admit he thought another fella was attractive. the guy he was on about is f*cking gorgeous, and my mate said "now, i'm not gay, but if i was..." followed by a wistful sigh


women say it all the time, and i've often heard women have conversations about which female celeb theyd sleep with if they had to pick one- cant imagine lads having that conversation

Dr Galen

i have no issue with it and have said it about normal blokes on occasion, not just the actors etc that your talking about.

I'm comfortable in my own sexuality and really don't feel threatened by this sort of thing. Some people (both male and female) just don't notice these things though, so I don't think we could label every guy/girl who doesn't do this necesarily out of touch or phobic.

minidazzler

I would and I do. I can see the attraction.

Kaizer Sosa

I can definitely appreciate if a man is good looking or not but I'd be wary of expressing it because of that whole "are you gay or what" thing. I'd often phrase things like "He doesn't have problems with the women cos he's a handsome fu*ker". It almost sounds like I'm begrudging his handsomness therefore hopefully not leaving myself open for the gay jibes.

I hear ridiculous things sometimes like girls asking guys is Joe Bloggs "a good looking guy" etc etc and guys replying "I wouldn't know". Of course they know. They just can't admit to it for fear.

m83

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Have you read the charter? Less of the nonsense posting please

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MM

humberklog

No problem, I was even giving the young buck Kirk Mccamberly (?) the second look the other night and I'm straight. Very handsome chap.

krudler

Kaizer Sosa wrote: »

I can definitely appreciate if a man is good looking or not but I'd be wary of expressing it because of that whole "are you gay or what" thing. I'd often phrase things like "He doesn't have problems with the women cos he's a handsome fu*ker". It almost sounds like I'm begrudging his handsomness therefore hopefully not leaving myself open for the gay jibes.

I hear ridiculous things sometimes like girls asking guys is Joe Bloggs "a good looking guy" etc etc and guys replying "I wouldn't know". Of course they know. They just can't admit to it for fear.

Thats exactly what I mean, "sure i wouldnt know what a good lookin fella is" is something I've heard friends of mine say, its not hard surely?

Monkeybonkers

Of course. Probably only if I was asked though or to my friends. I wouldn't go around all the time pointing out handsome fellows willy nilly (as the saying goes)

Wibbs

It depends on the guy too. I mean I can tell if a man is good looking if he's an extreme. I think I can tell with everyday men, but from what I gather from women, I really can't. Apparently Ive no taste . But regardless I wouldnt have any issue saying I think x or y bloke is a handsome man.

BumbleB

I mean what the big deal about it ?.Its from an aesthetic point of view, rather than an emotional p.o.v .

Mackman

I wouldnt just say it out of the blue. It wouldnt even occur to me to say "he's a handsome chap!", because its not something i notice. but if someone asked me if i thought a guy was handsome, i would give an honest answer

Teferi

Yep. Absolutely no problem with it. I can appreciate if a man is attractive and discuss it with my girlfriend, female mates and gay mates. For some reason my straight mates don't regularly discuss attractive males (go figure...) but I wouldn't be afraid to discuss it with them.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Can tell most of the time. I think men have evolved to know what's attractive to a woman so they can tell who's competition and who isn't

CDfm

I dont see why not, I told a male friend recently that he is good looking as he was nervous about asking someone out. He is.

c - 13

No problem admitting if a man is attractive or not, this has shocked a few female friends when I chimed in with my opinion when they're discussing a celebrity or something.

I dont see any problem with it either, seems to disturb a lot of lads though, as if they think if you admit a lad is handsome you'll immediately feel compelled to try jump his bones.

OldGoat

Like the majority here I've no problem pointing out attractive men. I've long since grow out of the schoolyard mentality of 'teh ghay'.
I'm constantly amused at the doubletakes I get for doing it.

Otis Driftwood

Same as the rest.Just because you can appreciate that a person is attractive doesnt mean you fancy them.I know alot of attractive women but dont fancy em,pretty much the same difference IMO.

scoopmine

Yep not a problem saying she a chap is good looking any1 who goes thats gay is abit childish I think!

The_Kew_Tour

I have no problem with saying that another bloke is good looking one bit.

Lucky for me my mates are open enough about it too. Yes soemtimes we might say few joke remarks about "I bet you do with a " but its all good nature and no offensive is taken as we know that in all our minds must guys we say are attractive must my mates agree.

I have even said it too few my mates and one or two have mentioned it back.

I think slowly it is becoming acceptable. it should never have to be issue in first place but thats strange world we live in.

DazMarz

Mystik Monkey wrote: »

i have no issue with it and have said it about normal blokes on occasion, not just the actors etc that your talking about.

I'm comfortable in my own sexuality and really don't feel threatened by this sort of thing. Some people (both male and female) just don't notice these things though, so I don't think we could label every guy/girl who doesn't do this necesarily out of touch or phobic.

Yep, same here. I've no problem saying whether I think a certain bloke is good looking.

Even if this leads to shouts of ''Whoooooaaa, ya big queer/quare ya!'':mad:

This shout would also come from a bunch of lads that I hang out with, who when they are on drunken nights out cannot seem to help but deeply kiss and hug each other. I have never partaken of this, and don't intend to either!!!:D

Johnny Utah

Tbh, I'd only class a tiny percentage of people (either men or women) as 'good-looking'. Even a lot of actors/celebrities wouldn't be considered good looking imo.

LD 50

Used to do it the whole time around when 300 came out. Now, I'm not gay(just to clarify) but they were some perfectly formed man abs.
Don't do it as much these days. I think its fairly normal for someone who's comfortable with the people they're with to say it, and comfortable with themselves sexually.

grenache

i have no issue whatsoever with admitting that another man is good-looking. I've done it before in front of male friends/work colleagues and if they come out with something retarded like ''that's so gay'', i just say no its just a guy who's comfortable in his own sexuality, unlike others who are obviously insecure.

gamblitis

grenache wrote: »

I've done it before in front of male friends/work colleagues and if they come out with something retarded like ''that's so gay'',

That is so childish! Its been suggested and tested that "homophobes" actually show a higher arousal reaction than open minded people who do not judge people by their sexual orientation when shown images of homosexual porn. I think they are trying to hide something. :P

i just say no its just a guy who's comfortable in his own sexuality, unlike others who are obviously insecure.

This I completely agree with.

I digress, back on topic. Yes if they guy is good looking I would def complement him on it. I do very often in fact as I seem to have found myself surrounded by a lot of good looking male friends! Pity it didn't rub off. :pac:

It shows maturity, open mindedness and comfort with ones sexuality to be able to say such things. And everyone loves being complemented. I think we should do it more often.

You're all cracking!

OldGoat

gamblitis wrote: »

Its been suggested and tested that "homophobes" actually show a higher arousal reaction than open minded people who do not judge people by their sexual orientation when shown images of homosexual porn.

I've heard this type of thing being bandied about for as long as I can remember - If you protest against homosexuality you must be Gay. Balderdash and hogwash as far as I'm concerned.
If anyone does have access or a link to a study of where this has been tested I'd be really interested.
Kinda back on thread but the other side of the coin, does anyone get a tad uneasy when a bloke complements you on how you look?

gamblitis

OldGoat wrote: »

I've heard this type of thing being bandied about for as long as I can remember - If you protest against homosexuality you must be Gay. Balderdash and hogwash as far as I'm concerned.
If anyone does have access or a link to a study of where this has been tested I'd be really interested.

Just did a little browsing there and found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-7AoxFEJA

Seems to suggest it's a little more than hogwash. Worth looking into. Wouldn't mind finding more info on it.

OldGoat wrote: »

Kinda back on thread but the other side of the coin, does anyone get a tad uneasy when a bloke complements you on how you look?

I'm open to compliments from anyone. I would have been a little uneasy in my early teen years but I've grown up and my maturity levels have shot through the roof!

Columbia

No problem with it. My girlfriend and I have very different tastes in guys

cowzerp

If i was asked did i think a lad was good looking and he was i'd say yes, if he was'nt i would'nt-Does not make a man gay!!!

Funny that people might think it does..

Dr Galen

OldGoat wrote: »

Kinda back on thread but the other side of the coin, does anyone get a tad uneasy when a bloke complements you on how you look?

absolutely not.

I've several gay men as mates, and have been in many a "gay-bar" in my time. I've had men chat me up (unsuccessfully - sorry lads ) and been compliemented by either my mates, or their mates etc etc. I nearly find it a higher form of compliment than one from a lady. I'm not sure why I think like that though, maybe its because I've seen/hung out with a group of gay men who could at times be very bitchy, and who I know are picky so and so's

From a straight mate point of view, I have one mate, who has more than average man interest in fashion, looking good etc. He'll often pass comment on things. Mainly items of clothing etc.

Either way, I'll take compliments from anyone! More the merrier!

Nervous Wreck

People used to look at me funny when I'd say lads were handsome or whatever. Thankfully, most people I know have copped on. I often tell my mates that they look well on a night out or whatever. Some lads find it a bit scary cos they're not used to it but most get really chuffed that someone has genuinely said they look well.

titan18

Ya,I do it a good bit actually.Get the jokes about being gay and stuff but meh,i'm just honest.Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Davidius

Not quite sure I follow.

I suppose I can tell if a man has features that I think women would be looking for to a certain degree. I always assumed that was supposed to be the case for the sake of knowing the competition. I don't really see the point in admitting that to people though, seems like an awfully weird thing to bring up.

Definitely wouldn't compliment somebody on it or else they'd have more confidence and would try to steal my women. :pac:

However I don't think I can really appreciate a male body at all. Somebody mentioned something about 'perfectly formed abs', I don't think I could see anything like that. To me it'd just be 'abs'. I think I'm just considered terrible at noticing subtle things in everything though.

dillo2k10

Yea I would

deadhead13

Appreciate another bloke is good looking, yes. Being physically attracted to another man, no.

fryup

the best looking man ever

he could have had any woman he wanted but stayed faithful to just one for over 50 years

DundalkDuffman

I would have no bother saying a fella is good looking within my own company, I wouldn't think of complimenting someone directly though, that'd be weird for everyone I think!

Handsome Bob

I don't get the mentality of women pointing to some randomer and saying to me "He's good looking isn't he?" I mean what's the point of asking me? I think it's a mistake to assume that you're going to go up in someone's estimation if you can say that members of the same sex are good looking. When someone asks me something like that I just say don't ask me pointless questions.

We

Most of my mates dont believe me when I say this but I really can't tell if another guy is good looking or not..
All I can do is assume that he may by comparing him to guys I know to be good looking(CK models etc :P ).. but even then, I might say to a girl that I would think a certain guy is good looking and they'll flat out tell me I'm wrong :F

I think one of the reasons I'm ****e at judging lads looks is that personality is too much a part of how women judge a man's looks.. eg. celebrities; a certain actor may have had several lead roles and is already hugely famous, but once he plays the role of an attractive guy, suddenly he's new dream boat on the hollywood scene.. Despite the fact that this actor has always looked the way he does, and has been lurking for years, he's now perceived in a whole new way..

If you even look at the 'male form appreciation' thread in the ladies lounge, you'll notice pretty quickly that all the guys that have their pics posted are from recent enough films or programs that are on tv at the moment ;o whereas lads are a lot more consistent in threads regarding hot wimminz with the same recurring chicks being posted in every thread..

Monkeybonkers

LD 50 wrote: »

Used to do it the whole time around when 300 came out.
they were some perfectly formed man abs.

Indeed they were perfectly formed....on a computer. I was watching a documentary on the making of the film shortly after its release and most of the abs on the warriors were in fact computer generated. Only a few of the main characters had to go to the gym!

frimmers

ok to boil this down..

there's more of a stigma attached to male homosexuality that's true, whereas lesbians won't get such a hard time from other females, that explains part of it but truthfully I believe that, at least in Ireland, and credit to Irish girls here, attractiveness for a lot of them is based on more than the look or style of the guy, but also his attitude/banter/confidence/interactions/sense of humour etc., many times I see guys who are far from male models and indeed much less conventionally attractive than, ummm...for example me, walking around with stunners and it really is a great thing, a lot of Irish women (not all) look beyond the superficial and thus my conclusion is

Irish women = less superficially judgemental than gay man

disclaimer: I am neither gay nor a woman, I just happen to know a lot of both groups

meteora

frimmers wrote: »

ok to boil this down..

there's more of a stigma attached to male homosexuality that's true, whereas lesbians won't get such a hard time from other females, that explains part of it but truthfully I believe that, at least in Ireland, and credit to Irish girls here, attractiveness for a lot of them is based on more than the look or style of the guy, but also his attitude/banter/confidence/interactions/sense of humour etc., many times I see guys who are far from male models and indeed much less conventionally attractive than, ummm...for example me, walking around with stunners and it really is a great thing, a lot of Irish women (not all) look beyond the superficial and thus my conclusion is

Irish women = less superficially judgemental than gay man

disclaimer: I am neither gay nor a woman, I just happen to know a lot of both groups

So what exactly are you insinuating about gay men? That their attraction is based only on looks? I would disagree..I have several friends who are dating and in a few cases married to men whom they chose for personality over looks.

Irish women are as judgemental as everyone else IMO I remember one night a group of us went out with a gay friend for his birthday in dublin..his friends and collegues from dublin where there also including a lesbian couple. The couple got up and went to the bar, and straight away the girls, who are my friends close group started bitch about the lesbians...it was pretty sickening actually..I just mention that as an example of my experiences. Now dont get me wrong, I am not branding all irish lassies..just an example of what I have seen.

norrie rugger

sam34 wrote: »

i'm a girl, and i've only ever heard one straight man admit he thought another fella was attractive. the guy he was on about is f*cking gorgeous, and my mate said "now, i'm not gay, but if i was..." followed by a wistful sigh


women say it all the time, and i've often heard women have conversations about which female celeb theyd sleep with if they had to pick one- cant imagine lads having that conversation

I was in a mixed group on a night out (of course alcohol was needed), where we had to give our answers.
Girls chose Angelina Jolie
Guys chose Johnny Depp

Pepe LeFrits

If they're cool.

Ryan Reynolds, now that is a good looking fella.

Doc

I would have no problem saying that I think a guy is good looking but I would have a problem using the word attractive to describe a guy. I mean I’m not actually attracted to men so I wouldn’t call them attractive.

embracingLife

ooooohh, come on now.........Daniel Craig in the Casino Royale.........nice suit! Nice shirt too.........wait a minute,they were made for him for the film.

But I really don't see why the swim trucks were so........ahem,terribly tight on him........I could feel my balls shrink when he got out of the water ......in solidarity of him being portrayed as a sex object for the gratification of women..........but it probably had nothing to do with my decision to join a gym either. :rolleyes:

No,I'm not gay..............just had to put that disclaimer down.

Jezzington

I'm your (stereo)typical red blooded, booze guzzling 101% red meat chewing male (that's my disclaimer) But damn it, anyone watching Alias Smith and Jones on TG4 recently? The late and very great Pete Duel sure was one damn fine sexy dude

kisaragi

Well there's a difference between finding someone attractive and realizing how someone COULD be attractive. I mean I don't fancy most of my friend's boyfriend's/hook ups but I can usually see why they would like them :P. It's pretty much the same thing with women, I can see how they're really beautiful etc but am not attracted to them per se...

Kind of a semantics issue haha... if you find the person attractive that makes you a little bit gay (or straight depending what angle you're coming from), but if you just realise how they could be attractive then that's a different story.

I think a lot of people just like to categorize themselves as either gay or straight, and in a way, it undermines your sense of self if you admit that you find the opposite/same sex attractive. Although I identify as 100% homosexual there have been times when I kind of questioned if I was attracted to certain women, which was a little unsettling. In the end though, as amazing as Cheryl Cole looks I'd still never want to sleep with her :cool:.

So yeah, as much as it is difficult to admit to your peer group that you think someone of the same/opposite is attractive, it can be even scarier to admit it to yourself.

G-Money

I don't really have any problem with saying if a fella is good looking, except for the typical Irish begrudging attitude to complimenting people and seeing them do well

Seriously though. I can usually tell if a guy would be popular with women or good looking and I don't mind saying that. I don't see what the problem is. I guess some guys would be uncomfortable saying that, as if it somehow labels them as gay or something.

There's a big difference between saying "He's a good looking guy" and saying "I fancy him". Some guys seem to think if you say the former, you really mean the latter.

lukasbasic

I have my own theory here
A guy can only admit another guy is attractive if the guy matches his own level of attraction. (attractive men 'recognize' other attractive men)

But he will say it in rather seldom. Unless specifically asked by a girl 'is this guy attractive?' - she might asked about a person you know she didn't see....