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WOMEN Cage fighters on BBC.

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    #32
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Roper wrote: »
    Are you a real person or some debate generating robot boards have planted in the system?

    If *topic* THEN *disagree* OR *spout pro wrestling*= annoyance

    Stop. K1 have been having MMA shows for donkey's years. Just stop.

    K1 is primarily a kick boxing promotion I know they have been running MMA shows for years.

    MMA in terms of popularity in Japan was a fad sorry dude. It is only an annoyance if you let it be.


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    #33
    Sid_Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    markfightie wrote: »
    have to disagree there, i think the Japanesse treat their fighters with a lot more respect than the Europeans or Americans.

    What do you mean by this? Like respect is a fairly ambiguous term, I've no idea what you actually mean. Maybe you've been reading too many Rickson Gracie interviews.

    I'm not even disagreeing with you. The Japanese look as good as everyone else at treating their fighters to me. I mean, it's really only in Japan you'd have two guys fighting with a weight mismatch of over 50lbs, only in Japan you'd get a guy with 20 fights fighting a debutant, only really in Japan you'll get people who indiscreetly use steroids (debatable).


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    #34
    wingnut4
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭wingnut4


    was i the only one that though lisas trainer/husband was abit too rough when she lost? Or is the way most coaches are...


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    #35
    markfightie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭markfightie


    Sid_Justice wrote: »
    What do you mean by this? Like respect is a fairly ambiguous term, I've no idea what you actually mean. Maybe you've been reading too many Rickson Gracie interviews.

    I'm not even disagreeing with you. The Japanese look as good as everyone else at treating their fighters to me. I mean, it's really only in Japan you'd have two guys fighting with a weight mismatch of over 50lbs, only in Japan you'd get a guy with 20 fights fighting a debutant, only really in Japan you'll get people who indiscreetly use steroids (debatable).

    as i already said i retracted said statement, i was reading 2 different posts on 2 different forums and combined my opinions into one post, what i said is completly irrelevant to the discussion taking place.


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    #36
    John Ferguson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭John Ferguson


    markfightie wrote: »
    what i said is completly irrelevant to the discussion taking place.

    LOL:)

    Sounds like most days in our office!!!!


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    #37
    Jason Mc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Jason Mc


    I would argue that it would be seen as important for promoters to educate the public away from the term "Cage Fighting"

    For all the reasons mentioned already.

    It negates the short term gain of getting a few brain deads looking for blood versus a better class of public attending the event.

    It is primarily seen as a blue collar sport. Boxing managed to get rid of that sort of tag no reason why that can't happen in MMA circles


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    #38
    markfightie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭markfightie


    I think that it's hard to get away from the term cage fighting when the fights take place in a cage, perhaps we should do away the cage aspect and then you can be called ring fighters!

    I'm just playing devils advocate here btw


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    #39
    Jason Mc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Jason Mc


    I would also point out that as a coach lets just say "little johnny" goes home and says to his mummy.

    "Mum can I go down and train at Evolve, they do MMA?" He may get a very different reaction than.

    "Mum can I go down and train at Evolve, they do Cage Fighting?"

    We need these little johnny's joining the clubs to fight at the shows.


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    #40
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Jason Mc wrote: »
    I would also point out that as a coach lets just say "little johnny" goes home and says to his mummy.

    "Mum can I go down and train at Evolve, they do MMA?" He may get a very different reaction than.

    "Mum can I go down and train at Evolve, they do Cage Fighting?"

    We need these little johnny's joining the clubs to fight at the shows.
    I'd imagine if people want to train the sport they'd know it's mma not cage fighting.

    I got asked if I was a cage wrestler at the weekend, it made me think of the fake wrasslin!


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    #41
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Most people's frame of reference still seems to be that episode of Friends with Tank Abbot and Jon Favero:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMD-TWtY9lQ


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    #42
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    And we are BACK

    Finally watched this online bar all the aggro with the first couple at the beginning I really enjoyed it. Nice character study of some of the fighters and really well produced.


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