Potentially cheap DTT/SAT HD Combo €129

STB

Edision argus mini 2in1´ HD PVR DVB-S2 / DVB-T

Looks too good to be true. €129


Someone may wish to look further into this. I dont speak German. I did notice that there is a line saying

"Note: Some features of the Argus VIP only work with an Internet connection."
??????

Potentially the cheapest DTT/SAT HD Combo I have seen in a while.

(in silver or black)

€129 from a rake of german sites.




DO NOT BUY UNTIL IT IS CONFIRMED HERE AS WORKING IN IRELAND

Slegs may have seen one or tested one.

When someone looks into it further I'll stick up the URL to a site that charges €20 for delivery to Ireland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pwUdVQ2B4 at about 1:50

slegs

Good find STB, hadnt seen this one yet.

stanley1

Technical Data Edision 'argus mini 2in1' HD DVB-S2 / DVB-T silber

Jetzt bestellen und vielleicht schon morgen haben.

Mit dem Argus Mini 2in1 bietet Edision einen HDTV-Receiver und einen DVB-T Receiver für wenig Geld, aber dafür im Top-Design und mit unglaublichen Austattungsmerkmalen.
Denn der argus mini 2in1 schont nicht nur Ihren Geldbeutel, sondern auch die Umwelt. Standby Stromverbrauch nur 0,8 Watt. Überzeugen sie sich selbst.

Technische Daten:

- digitaler Satelliten-Receiver (DVB-S2 und DVB-T)
- empfängt HDTV und normales digitales TV und Radio
- empfängt DVBT, TV und Radio
- 6000 Programmspeicherplätze
- MPEG-2, MPEG-4 und H.264 kompatibel
- Programmumschaltung in weniger als 1 Sekunde
- 2x CI Schächte
- 2x Conax Kartenleser integriert
- mehrsprachiges TrueColor OnScreenDisplay & Menü
- EDIVISION elektronische Programmzeitung
- DiSEqC 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 und USALS
- LNB Control:13/18V, 0/22K, 0/12V
- Kanaleditierung mit Favoriten-Listen
- RS-232 Software Schnittstelle
- 2x Scart (TV, VCR)
- Untertitel Unterstützung
- Videotext (VBI & Software-Emulation)
- Übertragung von Kanälen und Programminformationen von Receiver zu Receiver
- PVR-Funktionen (Video Aufnahme, Wiedergabe, MP3)
- zeitversetzte Aufnahme (TimeShift)
- Aufnahme von 2 Kanälen zur gleichen Zeit (bei gleichem Transponder)
- spannende Spiele vorinstalliert
- programmierbarer Timer
- automatische Sicherung des letzten Kanals
- Software-Update per USB möglich
- S/PDIF für Digital Audio o. Dolby AC-3 Bitstream Ausgang
- USB 2.0 Port für USB-Festplatten und -Sticks
- HDMI HD-Video-/ Audio-Ausgang
- Auflösung 1920x1080 Pixel
- 4:3 / 16:9 Bildwiedergabe
- VFD-Display
- IR-Fernbedienung
- 100~250V Netzspannung, 50Hz/60Hz
- Netzschalter
- 3 Jahre Garantie

fat-tony

For those of you without German, here is Google's attempt at a translation:

Technical Data Edision 'argus mini 2in1' HD DVB-S2 / DVB-T Silver

Order now and maybe tomorrow have.

The Argus Edision Mini 2in1 offers an HDTV receiver and a DVB-T receiver for little money, but for the top design and incredible Austattungsmerkmalen.
For the argus mini 2in1 not only saves your money, but also the environment. Standby power consumption is just 0.8 watts. Convince them yourself

Specifications:

- Digital satellite receiver (DVB-S2 and DVB-T)
- Receives digital HDTV and regular TV and radio
- Receives DVBT, TV and radio
- 6000 channel storage locations
- MPEG-2, MPEG-4 and H.264 compliant
- Program results in less than 1 seconds
- 2 x CI slots
- 2 x Common Interface Conax embedded
- Multilingual TrueColor-Screen & Menu
- Electronic Program Edivision Newspapers
- DiSEqC 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and USALS
- LNB Control: 13/18V, 0/22K, 0/12V
- Channeledit with favorites lists
- RS-232 Software Interface
- 2 x Scart (TV, VCR)
- Subtitle support
- Teletext (VBI and software emulation)
- Transfer of channels and program information from receiver to receiver
- PVR features (video recording, playback, MP3)
- Time-shift recording (TimeShift)
- Addition of 2 channels at the same time (for the same transponder)
- Exciting games preinstalled
- Programmable Timer
- Automatic backup of the last channel
- Software update via USB possible
- S / PDIF for digital audio without a Dolby AC-3 Bitstream Output
- USB 2.0 port for USB hard drives and memory sticks
- HDMI HD video / audio output
- Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
- 4:3 / 16:9
- VFD display
- IR remote control
- 100 ~ 250V Voltage, 50Hz/60Hz
- Power switch
- 3 years warranty

Apogee

Dr Dish review in German:
http://www.drdish-tv.com/Play_314_2009-10-02%2B-%2BKAUF-Tipps_WebTV.102.0.html

Paul Kiernan

Anyone got any updates on this?

How does it compare it with, say, Mvision HD200/300?

snaps

It will have to be good to compare to the Mvision 300. The best thing i love about the Mvision 300 is that it will play avi files from a usb flash drive.

Have to admit, for the specs its a cracking price.

GerardKeating

slegs wrote: »

Good find STB, hadnt seen this one yet.

What do you think of it now, i assume you have had a chance to play with one by now?

Tony

I stocked Edision satellite boxes many years ago and the failure rate was appalling, hopefully they are better now.

STB

Tony wrote: »

I stocked Edision satellite boxes many years ago and the failure rate was appalling, hopefully they are better now.

Dont tell slegs that as he has 50 to sell.:)

In all fairness the hardware on sale these days comes from a handful of OEMs so its the same chipset/build rebadged.

slegs

STB wrote: »

Dont tell slegs that as he has 50 to sell.:)

In all fairness the hardware on sale these days comes from a handful of OEMs so its the same chipset/build rebadged.

I have been playing with it over the last week and its got everything the Mvision has and even a little more (USB key speed test for recording, games, backup of software and channel lists together in one file, Aplhanumeric VFD display). In fact recording seems to work better than the MVision. Very high quality remote also for a unit in this price range. Cant fault it so far and the build seems of a good quality. Time will tell but I am very happy with it.

Tony

STB wrote: »

Dont tell slegs that as he has 50 to sell.:)

Sorry Slegs, i'm sure they are fine

snaps

slegs wrote: »

I have been playing with it over the last week and its got everything the Mvision has and even a little more (USB key speed test for recording, games, backup of software and channel lists together in one file, Aplhanumeric VFD display). In fact recording seems to work better than the MVision. Very high quality remote also for a unit in this price range. Cant fault it so far and the build seems of a good quality. Time will tell but I am very happy with it.

Does it play avi files and will it read a white FTV card?

slegs

snaps wrote: »

Does it play avi files and will it read a white FTV card?

Dont think AVI but it does MP3. There is unofficial EMU software out since November and multiple releases (much like MVision Speedy). Havent tried Sky FTV cards yet as I havent activated my white card but will do at the weekend.

This box is the real deal. Has received very good reviews and good feedback on forums. Has the feel of a much more expensive receiver especiallty in the menus and quick scanning / channel changing. Has all the output ports and CAM/CI you could need. I have tried over 15 different combo box models and this is well up there.

slegs

Tony wrote: »

Sorry Slegs, i'm sure they are fine

No bother Tony!

channelsurfer2

any discount for boards members slegs??:D also not too techy but can you explain what i need the usb key for and a hard drive or will just the usb key do for the pvr function. ( thinking of buying it for my ma and she aint too technical minded all she wants is something that will get her rte and bbc without having 2 boxes and remotes)

slegs

No problem with giving a discount to Boardsies just drop me a note before you order and I will give a discount code

The USB Key or external USB hard drive is used for two things.

1. Upgrading and backing up software and channel lists
2. PVR recording, live pause and instant rewind functionality.

An external powered USB hard drive will be quicker and have more space. Generally you would need an external drive to record HD for example as HD uses 3-4 times more memory than SD channels for the same amount of time recorded.

You can also use a USB key to record and pause etc but generally you would only be able to record a few programs on say a 2GB USB Key. They are getting cheaper though and have more memory than before.

I have used a 4GB key on the Edision over the last week and live pause and rewind works perfectly for SD.

MBSnr

slegs wrote: »

I have been playing with it over the last week and its got everything the Mvision has and even a little more (USB key speed test for recording, games, backup of software and channel lists together in one file, Aplhanumeric VFD display). In fact recording seems to work better than the MVision. Very high quality remote also for a unit in this price range. Cant fault it so far and the build seems of a good quality. Time will tell but I am very happy with it.

Oh...typical! I buy a HD300 and a week later a cheaper and better box appears! I did notice from the screenshots that the menus look more professional esp the recording banner info. Can't fault the Mvision TBH but the Edision recording list/preview looks better than the Mvision.... Seems you can rename and preview from within the recorded programs list.

galtee boy

I've never used an external harddrive or usb for PVR functions, so can I ask :

a. If this box has a seven day epg for Irish DTT, I presume you can program a recording for up to 7 days ahead using the hard drive or usb ?

b. If the satellite function has no epg as such, only now and next, I presume you can only record the sat channel you are watching ? and cannot record in advance,say a programme say on BBC 1, in two days time ?

c.Can you watch Sat channels while recording DTT ?

d.Is presume it doesn't have any series link function ?

e.Is the pause and playback "live tv" function, instant as it is on a Sky+box, ie one press of a button ?

Forgive all the questions, but it seems like a fantastic piece of kit for the price, I'm just wondering how close it is to a Sky+ box using the external hard drive or usb.

slegs wrote: »

No problem with giving a discount to Boardsies just drop me a note before you order and I will give a discount code

The USB Key or external USB hard drive is used for two things.

1. Upgrading and backing up software and channel lists
2. PVR recording, live pause and instant rewind functionality.

An external powered USB hard drive will be quicker and have more space. Generally you would need an external drive to record HD for example as HD uses 3-4 times more memory than SD channels for the same amount of time recorded.

You can also use a USB key to record and pause etc but generally you would only be able to record a few programs on say a 2GB USB Key. They are getting cheaper though and have more memory than before.

I have used a 4GB key on the Edision over the last week and live pause and rewind works perfectly for SD.

slegs

galtee boy wrote: »

I've never used an external harddrive or usb for PVR functions, so can I ask :

a. If this box has a seven day epg for Irish DTT, I presume you can program a recording for up to 7 days ahead using the hard drive or usb ?

Yes, you can schedule via EPG

b. If the satellite function has no epg as such, only now and next, I presume you can only record the sat channel you are watching ? and cannot record in advance,say a programme say on BBC 1, in two days time ?

You can schedule via a timer in this scenario much like a VCR would do in the past

c.Can you watch Sat channels while recording DTT ?

You can

1. Watch one terrestrial channel and record another terrestrial channel on same MUX (all Irish FTA channels are on the same MUX).
2. Watch one satellite channel and record another satellite channel on the same transponder e.g. E4 UK and More4 UK
3. You can live pause or rewind the channel you are watching while the other channel continues to record

You cant

1. Watch a terrestrial channel and record a satellite channel
2. Watch a satellite channel from one transponder and record another satellite channel from a different transponder

d.Is presume it doesn't have any series link function ?

No series link

e.Is the pause and playback "live tv" function, instant as it is on a Sky+box, ie one press of a button ?

Yes, very similar. You enable timeshift in the menu once and after that you can press rewind, pause or play to enact the required feature with one button press

Forgive all the questions, but it seems like a fantastic piece of kit for the price, I'm just wondering how close it is to a Sky+ box using the external hard drive or usb.

To be fair Sky+ is a great piece of kit and it has dual inputs for watch one record another. Series link is integrated from the EPG broadcast by Sky which is specifically aimed at the Sky+ box. So a combo box will not be its equal but considering you have no subscription most people who go this route are very happy with the feature set it offers even if it is not a like for like replacement.

GerardKeating

slegs wrote: »

To be fair Sky+ is a great piece of kit and it has dual inputs for watch one record another. Series link is integrated from the EPG broadcast by Sky which is specifically aimed at the Sky+ box. So a combo box will not be its equal but considering you have no subscription most people who go this route are very happy with the feature set it offers even if it is not a like for like replacement.

It is likely/possible that a future firmware update would include a freesat epg ?

slegs

GerardKeating wrote: »

It is likely/possible that a future firmware update would include a freesat epg ?

Anything is possible but its unlikely as it would have to be done either without consent and in unofficial firmware which would be copyright infringement or else with the cooperation of freesat which is very unlikely.

galtee boy

slegs wrote: »

Anything is possible but its unlikely as it would have to be done either without consent and in unofficial firmware which would be copyright infringement or else with the cooperation of freesat which is very inlikely.

Thanks for the detailed reply. It might not have the bells and whistles of a Sky+ box, but for that price and no subscription, it is excellent value for what it does.
Is there any box out there, that has a seven day epg for satellite and Mpeg4 Irish Dtt tuner in it aswell ?

slegs

galtee boy wrote: »

Thanks for the detailed reply. It might not have the bells and whistles of a Sky+ box, but for that price and no subscription, it is excellent value for what it does.
Is there any box out there, that has a seven day epg for satellite and Mpeg4 Irish Dtt tuner in it aswell ?

Not really or at least not in an official clean seamless manner.

There are some more expensive units that have alternative ways around this like downloading EPG via internet from XMLTV or some that access the freesat EPG unofficially as described before (Dreambox, AZBox etc).

Most freesat enabled TVs have can receive both EPGs but its not integrated in a single guide so thats not ideal.

The only official/legal seamless way I have seen to do this is via Windows Media Center on a home theatre PC which after a bit of setup effort actually works very well. But again this can be pricey..

zbluebirdz

Will this box record and play-back subtitles?

mickeyboymel

Does it display the new type digital teletext on DTV?

Apogee

slegs wrote: »

No, you watch what you are recordingNo series linkYes, very similar.

I'm suprised at this. I assumed it was only the Linux receivers which had this issue of not being able to record on one tuner and watch on the other.

What about the other combo boxes on the market (e.g ClarkeTech, Mvision etc) - have they the same problem?

slegs wrote: »

Anything is possible but its unlikely as it would have to be done either without consent and in unofficial firmware which would be copyright infringement or else with the cooperation of freesat which is very unlikely.

Fortec have had a Freesat EPG enabled firmware for the Passion receivers with months and Freesat have taken no action. I doubt you can copyright Huffman tables anyway. As long as the manufacturers doesn't use the Freesat logo, they should be fine.

snaps

Apogee wrote: »

I'm suprised at this. I assumed it was only the Linux receivers which had this issue of not being able to record on one tuner and watch on the other.

What about the other combo boxes on the market (e.g ClarkeTech, Mvision etc) - have they the same problem?



Fortec have had a Freesat EPG enabled firmware for the Passion receivers with months and Freesat have taken no action. I doubt you can copyright Huffman tables anyway. As long as the manufacturers doesn't use the Freesat logo, they should be fine.

Combo boxes only have one cpu for both dvb-s and dvb-t tuners. You can watch a channel on the same transponder that you are recording.

Fortec have done nothing wrong. As far as i know they are in the process of launching a rival freesat/Pay satellite platform under the name of real digital.

Apogee

Is it a CPU issue? The dreamboxes (7025 and 8000) both have a single CPU afaik. And there isn't a huge amount of processing involved in taking the demodulated stream from the tuner and writing it to disc.

slegs

mickeyboymel wrote: »

Does it display the new type digital teletext on DTV?

No not MHEG5

slegs

Apogee wrote: »

I'm suprised at this. I assumed it was only the Linux receivers which had this issue of not being able to record on one tuner and watch on the other.

What about the other combo boxes on the market (e.g ClarkeTech, Mvision etc) - have they the same problem?



Fortec have had a Freesat EPG enabled firmware for the Passion receivers with months and Freesat have taken no action. I doubt you can copyright Huffman tables anyway. As long as the manufacturers doesn't use the Freesat logo, they should be fine.

Its the content that is copyrighted not access to the stream of data. You need permission to use it. But if noone challenges it then maybe all combos will start doing it.

slegs

zbluebirdz wrote: »

Will this box record and play-back subtitles?

Just tested there and YES it does record digital subtitles in both timeshift and regular record/playback mode

Also did some recording tests and you can

1. Watch one terrestrial channel and record another terrestrial channel on same MUX (all Irish FTA channels are on the same MUX).
2. Watch one satellite channel and record another satellite channel on the same transponder e.g. E4 UK and More4 UK
3. You can live pause or rewind the channel you are watching while the other channel continues to record

This all worked on a regular 4GB USB2 stick

rurs

That all sounds very good.

A couple of other questions, if you don't mind.

Can you watch a programme you've previously recorded while recording another?

When you hit record during a programme, does it record til the end , and then stop, or do you have to manually stop recording?

How smooth/controllable is the FFD/RWD of recordings?

Thanks

slegs

rurs wrote: »

That all sounds very good.

A couple of other questions, if you don't mind.

Can you watch a programme you've previously recorded while recording another?

When you hit record during a programme, does it record til the end , and then stop, or do you have to manually stop recording?

How smooth/controllable is the FFD/RWD of recordings?

Thanks

Yes, playing back a recording from the Record Manager works while another recording is ongoing. You can can navigate around the menus as long as you dont change to a channel that is on a different transponder. Havent seen this feature on too many boxes so a welcome addition.

When you hit record while watching a program it starts recording with a default of 2 hrs. Press record again and you can adjust this timer up or down. Again implemented very well compared to other boxes.
Obviously if you schedule from EPG it sets the duration of the program.

FF/RW is smooth enough with x2 x4 x8 x16 x24 values, not quite as smooth as Sky+

Sponge Bob

slegs wrote: »

I have used a 4GB key on the Edision over the last week and live pause and rewind works perfectly for SD.

Will it support the larger capacity SDHC cards Slegs ....and will it recognise all the card or only say 4gb of it. These are potentially faster than SD if the interface is implemented properly and worth the upgrade for the zip factor .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SD_and_SDHC_compatibility_issues

STB

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Will it support the larger capacity SDHC cards Slegs ....and will it recognise all the card or only say 4gb of it. These are potentially faster than SD if the interface is implemented properly and worth the upgrade for the zip factor .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SD_and_SDHC_compatibility_issues

SD as in Standard Definition......

Sponge Bob

STB wrote: »

SD as in Standard Definition......

Oh my apologies , I meant SD Card not USB and it does not support an SD card does it ???, scratch that question Slegs. Eamon Ryan was annoying me the lying sleeveen.

njburke

Hi,
I just got one of these receivers from SaorTV at the weekend and have been using over the weekend and wanted to share my first impressions of the receiver.

I had been using a cheap FTA box and with analogue TV from an attic installed Yagi, my TV is a Sony 37" with MPG-2 DTT decoder:(
What appealed to me most about the Argus was the integration of mpeg4 DVB-T and the FTA DVB-S

• single box
• single EPG
• single remote
• PVR functionality
• 150 euro price point

It would have cost me 50 euros for an MPG-4 module for the TV just to receive DTT.

Physical appearance and build quality are quite good, a decent set of interface connectors at the rear including optical audio, the VFD display is very clear, a bit like the displays on early Philips/marantz hifi, channel ID is readable from the couch but the small icons on can be hard to read from a distance. There are a couple of doors on the front for the CAM and card slots, theres are also a few manual control buttons for when you can't find the remote or the dog turns it into a chew toy. The remote is also well built and can be used to control two of the argus receivers, which is a nice feature.

In use, picture and audio quality are good, the DVB-T is naturally a huge leap over analogue broadcast, TG4 in particular, alas TV3 is just a testcard at the moment. I tricked around with video format and eventually settled on 720P50 over HDMI, the analogue YUV from the SCART socket was a little soft but I suspect that was my cheap and nasty SCART lead. EPG and menus are easy to use, which is just as well as I haven't found a manual yet. The firmware (dated 28/1/10) seems stable and it has several little gnick features, (auto power off for example, configuration backup/restore etc).

The record and timeshift (TMS) is possibly the best feature. I had to hunt around to find a USB stick that was fast enough to record and Timeshift, 2GB was too small for record but TMS was OK, I eventually settled on a WD passport 250 GB drive I had .
The expensive multi headed VCR we had died a couple of years ago and we never replaced it, so we're very pleased the record/timeshift capability . My wife reckons she'll never miss a soap again, the ability to pause live tv and then go answer the door or chastise a child is great. I recorded 'To kill a mocking bird' last night as it was on too late to watch.

In short, I think its a excellent deal for the money, I'll give it a month or so and if I'm still as pleased with it as I am now I'll buy a second unit for another room, this gets over the recording and multi-room constraints, and I get a spare remote to into the bargain.

BTW, excellent service and value from SaorTV.
NJ

Sponge Bob

Couple of quick qs,

1. It does not support MHEG5, hence no teletext. Is that on a roadmap?
2. Does it support the Sky active button type teletext/multiscreen over satellite?
3. Does it have full 7 day integrated EPG for all sat and dtt channels including ITV HD and Channel4 HD and BBC HD?
4. Is the EPG customisable so that you could select ITV HD into a prominent position and send ITV SD down the list.
5. Are all ITV regions visible? What are teh default regions for ITV and BBC ?


Looks like slegs will do rather Ok with these at that price point

TIA for all and any of those.

SB

snaps

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Couple of quick qs,

1. It does not support MHEG5, hence no teletext. Is that on a roadmap?
2. Does it support the Sky active button type teletext/multiscreen over satellite?
3. Does it have full 7 day integrated EPG for all sat and dtt channels including ITV HD and Channel4 HD and BBC HD?
4. Is the EPG customisable so that you could select ITV HD into a prominent position and send ITV SD down the list.
5. Are all ITV regions visible? What are teh default regions for ITV and BBC ?


Looks like slegs will do rather Ok with these at that price point

TIA for all and any of those.

SB

Its a FTA box not a Freesat box so no 7 day epg on satellite. 7 day epg is on the DTT test channels. You can have the channel list however you want it, all ITV regions are available apart from a few of the encrypted ones (A FTV card will decode these though)

It will be interesting to see if any firmware update will come to allow a white FTV card to be read in the card slot. I have a mvision 300 and the latest firmware update allows me to read a white FTV card. Ideal for channel 4 HD.

slegs

There are already 2 unofficial versions of software out there with EMU capability each of which has had multiple releases over the last few months (very like the MVision Speedy GXMAX firmware). I have tried the FTV card in both and it does not work yet. Comes up as Card Error. It did have Mediaguard as one of the EMU options on one of the FW so I presume it is only a matter of time.

slegs

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Couple of quick qs,

1. It does not support MHEG5, hence no teletext. Is that on a roadmap?
2. Does it support the Sky active button type teletext/multiscreen over satellite?
3. Does it have full 7 day integrated EPG for all sat and dtt channels including ITV HD and Channel4 HD and BBC HD?
4. Is the EPG customisable so that you could select ITV HD into a prominent position and send ITV SD down the list.
5. Are all ITV regions visible? What are teh default regions for ITV and BBC ?


Looks like slegs will do rather Ok with these at that price point

TIA for all and any of those.

SB

Hi sponge bob.

As snaps said this is a combo FTA receiver and not a freesat receiver. All of these type of receivers share the same attributes with regard to
- UK EPG (now and next EPG only not 7 day)
- Irish DTT (7 day EPG as its broadcast in open standard format)
- No MHEG5 digital teletext as the box is aimed at Europe generally (this feature is only available on UK specific freesat boxes). Note that regular Aertel analogue text works fine even though broadcast in digital. This box or any generic Europe wide combo receiver will never have MHEG5.
- Sky active is only supported on Sky boxes as this is an even more proprietry piece of application software than MHEG5
- Channel 4 HD is not an FTA channel
- You can organise the FTA channels however you wish (it comes presetup in the Irish/NI order when bought from me)

regards
Slegs

mickeyboymel

It will be interesting to see if any firmware update will come to allow a white FTV card to be read in the card slot. I have a mvision 300 and the latest firmware update allows me to read a white FTV card. Ideal for channel 4 HD.

Lets hope so! Will definitley invest in 2 of these if this can be confirmed to work.

Sponge Bob

slegs wrote: »

- Channel 4 HD is not an FTA channel

Thanks slegs, very comprehensive.

I mentioned 'ingenious' ways to get an FTV card here if anyone is interested. Be interesting if one of the ingenious methods gets Channel 4 HD working for someone ....and likely Channel 5 and 5 USA in time.

theShire

i'm having problems picking up DTT channels with this box. Paul sent me a replacemememt unit on friday cos of a power problem wit the 1st but i haven't been able to pick up DTT on d new box. i briefly had some audio this morning but neither audio or video this evening. my signal is at 90 and quality is 70 percent but rescanning doesn't find anything. any ideas?

slegs

theShire wrote: »

i'm having problems picking up DTT channels with this box. Paul sent me a replacemememt unit on friday cos of a power problem wit the 1st but i haven't been able to pick up DTT on d new box. i briefly had some audio this morning but neither audio or video this evening. my signal is at 90 and quality is 70 percent but rescanning doesn't find anything. any ideas?

Are you getting 70% quality on the channel that isnt showing or in the Terrestrial Installation screen. To do a full scan you need to press the white button (Blind Scan) to scan all channels and not just the one highlighted.

People have commented that Maghera is down on power in the last couple fo days. Are you using an internal aerial?

theShire

Hi Slegs,
Yep I'm using an internal aeriel in my loft and the DTT channels worked fine on the first box you sent me out. Then with the new box the DTT channels went from 'No Signal' to a black screen. The 90% and 70% were showing for the individual channels (press info then red button).
The same 90% & 70% were showing when I went into the Terestrial Installation menu (on chan48) but when I scanned no channels were found.

I checked the box this morning again and some broken video has started appearing and the signal is showing 90% and 71% so hopefully it was an issue with Maghera.

Any suggestions to help with my signal? Should I use a signal booster or should I move my aeriel outside?

slegs

theShire wrote: »

Hi Slegs,
Yep I'm using an internal aeriel in my loft and the DTT channels worked fine on the first box you sent me out. Then with the new box the DTT channels went from 'No Signal' to a black screen. The 90% and 70% were showing for the individual channels (press info then red button).
The same 90% & 70% were showing when I went into the Terestrial Installation menu (on chan48) but when I scanned no channels were found.

I checked the box this morning again and some broken video has started appearing and the signal is showing 90% and 71% so hopefully it was an issue with Maghera.

Any suggestions to help with my signal? Should I use a signal booster or should I move my aeriel outside?

It sounds very much like interference of some sort if you are geting strength/quality that high. Are you sure the connection is solid on the aerial lead?

theShire

I came home this evening and my DTT channels were showing up again. I'll take a look at my aeriel connections in the loft over the next few days and maybe move the aeriel if needed.
The signals seem to be ok bar the odd glitch or pause every couple of minutes.
Strange thing is that my signal details are now 86% & 73%.

bigdogbarking

hi, long time reader, first time poster
I just purschased one of these boxes as a replacement for my skybox which i cancelled.( thanks slegs for the speedy delivery by the way). absolutely idiot proof to set up, just plug and play so to speak. my only problem is the now and next function doesn't seem to update when you call up the endvision screen until you actually select the channel, some channels don't show any information at all, and some just list whatever program you were last watching on the channel. its actually quite annoying. is there an explanation for this and can it be fixed or is it just a case of having to get used to it?

also slightly veering from the topic, are there any sport channels available to freeview without subscription eg eurosport?

Thanks
BDB

slegs

bigdogbarking wrote: »

Hi, long time reader, first time poster
I just purschased one of these boxes as a replacement for my skybox which i cancelled.( thanks slegs for the speedy delivery by the way). absolutely idiot proof to set up, just plug and play so to speak. my only problem is the now and next function doesn't seem to update when you call up the endvision screen until you actually select the channel, some channels don't show any information at all, and some just list whatever program you were last watching on the channel. its actually quite annoying. is there an explanation for this and can it be fixed or is it just a case of having to get used to it?

also slightly veering from the topic, are there any sport channels available to freeview without subscription eg eurosport?

Thanks
BDB

Thanks Big Dog. unfortunately this is the way now and next works in must if not all FTA boxes. In a regular full EPG the EPG info is downloaded from one satellite transponder for all channels. Where there isnt an EPG the now/next info is picked up from each channel itself. The guide can only do this when the transponder is tuned in. The guide will remember though if you have visited the channel recently and keep the now/next info in the guide.