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Cold Spell Discussion: Widespread Snow Expected Overnight/Tuesday

  • 04-01-2010 7:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭


    New thread folks for the developing situation.

    Cold Front (Midnight)

    Situation at the moment is that a cold front is currently moving south through Scotland and is visible off the North coast of Ireland.

    It will track south over the coming hours and should reach the Northern NI by midnight, it will then track south reaching a line from Dublin to Galway by 3am.

    The precipitation will possibly fall as rain/sleet in the northwest and west at first before the cold air digs in behind the developing cold front.

    Further east the precip should stay as Snow with some decent fall across the Midlands, Leinster and East Munster.

    This front will clear the south coast by 9am.

    Accumulations of of between 3-10cm will occur during the passage of this front with highest accumulations in Leinster and the Midlands.

    Polar Low/ Comma Feature (Tuesday 0600)

    Heavy snow showers will feed into the north and northwest after the front clears with accumulations of snow here. Then a small low that will have travelled down the west coast of Scotland will approach the North coast of Ireland by 6am, its exact track southwards is still at this time unclear.

    It is likely at this moment to track down the centre of the country giving fresh falls of snow with >5cm and upto 15cm's in places.

    Irish Sea Showers (Tuesday 1500)

    As this feature clears winds will veer Northeasterly and a convergence zone will set up along the Irish sea with a band of snow showers forming, these showers will push onto the eastern coast from Dublin southwards from around 3/6pm with big accumulations in places as the showers are likely to be very heavy at times.

    Temperatures during Tuesday will range from -1c to 2c in a strong Northeasterly wind, feeling extremely cold.

    Will Discuss beyond tomorrow at another time, alot going on!

    todays.gif

    City Specific Snow Accumulations estimates during Tuesday.

    Dublin Airport: 8cm
    Belfast: 17cm
    Shannon: 8cm
    Birr: 15cm
    Derry: 15cm


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    New thread folks for the developing situation.

    is this guesswork or fact?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    is this guesswork or fact?

    Do you have to quote WC's whole post for a useless comment like that, cluttering the thread already?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Is that an eye i see forming


    100871.JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    You don't half ramp WC but i love it :P Great analysis.

    Same goes for you SA from the charts you posted at the end of the last thread southern england looks like it's in for a right pasting, As does wexford! lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Light sleet reported at Derry/Eglington at 1920

    METAR EGAE 041920Z 23005KT 9999 -SHRASN FEW011 BKN033 01/01 Q1014=


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Fear Sneachta


    is this guesswork or fact?



    Its called a forecast!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Snowaddict


    Just reposting the following ECMWF 12Z 04 Jan Precip Charts for the following few days, from the previous thread as it got closed:
    Overview

    Remember I said earlier that the T+36 Fax Chart was showing the (LP) - Low Pressure centred in the southern Irish Sea at T+36, well ECWMF 12Z is rather similar, albeit slightly further to our Southeast. In these situations, bands of precipitation (snow showers in this case), will often develop on the northwestern flank of such lows, which is exactly what ECMWF models this evening.

    If Met Eireann use the 12Z Output then I would expect them to highlight this risk on the 9.30PM Broadcast

    Tuesday Night

    100104_1200_36.png

    Wednesday 06.00

    100104_1200_42.png

    Wednesday 12.00

    100104_1200_48.png

    The above risk also continues into Wednesday evening. Also, western members should watch out for Thursday, there is a risk of a shallow feature running down the West Coast, with the risk of snowfall because of this. The evolution may be a bit marginal but this is also something to watch.

    From the above, it would appear that the Snowfall chances for the South & Southeast are relatively good, with many areas also at risk tomorrow as the Cold Front progresses southwards across the country.

    There is also a suggestion of light snow showers off the Irish Sea towards Friday onwards, as the winds back due Easterly.

    This extremely cold spell looks set to last another 5 Days at least.
    SA :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    redsunset wrote: »
    Is that an eye i see forming


    Yes i noticed that Redsunset:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    baraca wrote: »
    You don't half ramp WC but i love it :P Great analysis.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBCcY0nJao

    <3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    redsunset wrote: »
    Is that an eye i see forming

    Looks like the Faroe Islands gave it a little spin alright :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Midnight tonight.

    Area B
    Generally light, occasionally moderate rain or sleet. Occasional snow and isolated thunderstorms to the north of the front.

    Area E
    Generally dry or some light sleet showers. Occasional moderate showers of snow and small hail, with isolated heavy showers of snow and thunderstorms.

    100874.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    LookingFor wrote: »

    Are you saying WC works for her Majesty as a spy?? :p

    Temp seems to be creeping slowly upward here, was 0.5c and hour or so bak, its 0.9c now! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Snowaddict


    baraca wrote: »
    Same goes for you SA from the charts you posted at the end of the last thread southern england looks like it's in for a right pasting, As does wexford! lol

    Thanks Baraca,

    Again whilst it does indeed look favourable at the moment, we are still about T+24 or more out from the possible event so don't expect too much and then you won't be disappointed :)

    However, you are right, if those charts verified from today's ECMWF then Wexford & Wicklow could potentially see up to 10cm, with up to 20cm possible on much higher ground over the entire period. Other areas in the East and Southeast could expect up to 7CM total accumulation from those series of charts.

    However, I must stress once again that we are some way out yet & these charts should be viewed in light of a vast array of guidance. They could well change yet again unfortunately.

    You're right also about the UK - some lucky people there will see 30CM in the coming days, with up to 40CM or more on higher ground there!!

    SA :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,601 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Light snow/sleet here at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    If you look at the system to the north of Scotland it looks like a very large convective circulation, extends over a large area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Fear Sneachta


    Su Campu wrote: »
    Midnight tonight.

    Area B
    Generally light, occasionally moderate rain or sleet. Occasional snow and isolated thunderstorms to the north of the front.

    Area E
    Generally dry or some light sleet showers. Occasional moderate showers of snow and small hail, with isolated heavy showers of snow and thunderstorms.

    6034073


    For some reason, I cant see your images.. just a box with an "x" :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Rainfall chart for 10pm

    3hr-rain.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Rougies


    For some reason, I cant see your images.. just a box with an "x" :confused:

    No image for me either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    I just checked the forecast for Athens. It's sunny and 18 degrees. Off to the airport tomorrow then so I am. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Rougies wrote: »
    No image for me either

    Ditto


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Had 30 mins snow shower in Tullow with about 1cm fallen every surface is covered roads are lethal had a bad skid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭jenzz


    Well done WC on keeping us so informed. Camera is on charge lol. Just 1 thing - how come winds are exactly westerly. I thought we were in easterlies??

    WC for Taoiseach !!! ( still) :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Ditto

    Sorry lads, Copy 'n Paste error! Should be ok now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭mark_jmc


    just started to snow in castletroy in limerick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I hope we dont have to watch a polar low slide down the west coast and give the westies a dumping!:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    jenzz wrote: »
    Well done WC on keeping us so informed. Camera is on charge lol. Just 1 thing - how come winds are exactly westerly. I thought we were in easterlies??

    WC for Taoiseach !!! ( still) :D:D

    I cant explain the technical details, but this map might help:

    3hr-wind.gif


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    15cm were did you get that from or was that just made up..... would be good to have that!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭francosp


    Well lads, just back from Liverpool and I see that all our ice/snow is still on the ground. Liverpool is cold but no sign of snow.

    I'm again following this thread with great interest as I have to travel to work in the morning from D11 to the City Centre, not a long drive but going by what is forecast at the minute it could be quite difficult.

    Keep up the good work lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    I hope we dont have to watch a polar low slide down the west coast and give the westies a dumping!:o

    Why not, we wont object!! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭jenzz


    Ditto

    & me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Croppy you get anything lovely covering here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭typhooner


    I hope we dont have to watch a polar low slide down the west coast and give the westies a dumping!:o

    seems to be taking the right track for an eastie living in the west :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭PistolPete78


    i hope we see that... haha. this cold weather sure beats the wet miserable usual stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭rhonin


    -0.9C and clear at the minute. Our estate is like an ice rink after earlier rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Today FM News just said that "only Northern & North-Western counties are likely to have snowfall".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Villain wrote: »
    Croppy you get anything lovely covering here

    Had just a very light show shower at approx 5.30pm that gave a light sprinkling. Then some very light stuff blowing about approx and hour ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Today FM News just said that "only Northern & North-Western counties are likely to have snowfall".

    Sure what would they know? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Wibbler


    Further east the precip should stay as Snow with some decent fall across the Midlands, Leinster and East Munster.

    ...

    Accumulations of of between 3-10cm will occur during the passage of this front with highest accumulations in Leinster and the Midlands.

    ....

    Heavy snow showers will feed into the north and northwest after the front clears with accumulations of snow here.

    ....

    It is likely at this moment to track down the centre of the country giving fresh falls of snow with >5cm and upto 15cm's in places.

    ....

    As this feature clears winds will veer Northeasterly and a convergence zone will set up along the Irish sea with a band of snow showers forming, these showers will push onto the eastern coast from Dublin southwards from around 3/6pm with big accumulations in places as the showers are likely to be very heavy at times.

    ...

    Dublin Airport: 8cm
    Belfast: 17cm
    Shannon: 8cm
    Birr: 15cm
    Derry: 15cm

    I call Rampede!

    I admire your enthusiasm, WC, but I don't buy it at least for my location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Sure what would they know? :p

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Have ya noticed lads and lassies that the clump of cloud to the right of the possible forming eye is feeding it like what happens in a tornado


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Today FM News just said that "only Northern & North-Western counties are likely to have snowfall".

    MetO have 1 hours to plan its 930 forecast.

    If they don't warn of the possibility they will have serious egg on their faces tomorrow and have annoyed alot of people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Today FM News just said that "only Northern & North-Western counties are likely to have snowfall".

    Thats based on an early Met Eireann forecast. Jean Byrne after the 6 news didnt restrict accumulation to any region, she just said they were more likely in the N/NW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    redsunset wrote: »
    Have ya noticed lads and lassies that the clump of cloud to the right of the possible formong eye is feeding it like what happens in a tornado
    The feature is huge isn't it?

    I wonder what it will look like in 3 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭mark_jmc


    Today FM News just said that "only Northern & North-Western counties are likely to have snowfall".

    well its snowing it limerick at the moment so they're wrong!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    The feature is huge isn't it?

    I wonder what it will look like in 3 hours.

    YES WC we could be looking down the barrel of a loading gun,course seems central ireland track alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Wibbler


    redsunset wrote: »
    YES WC we could be looking down the barrel of a loading gun,course seems central ireland track alright

    No misfires, please. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Here are METARs for the past 6 hours at Vagar, Faroe Islands. They clearly show the passage of that minor circulation at 1821Z, where the wind became variable, the pressure was at its lowest, and the temperature rose after it. It don't thinkit's a developing polar low, however. I think if one does develop it will out of the large mass of cloud to its east, north of Scotland.

    EKVG 041951Z 02020KT 9999 SCT035CB 01/M01 Q1015 RMK WIND 850FT 02020G33KT 350V050
    EKVG 041852Z 01014KT 9999 -SHSN BKN025CB 01/M00 Q1014 RESN BLSN RMK WIND 850FT 35040G60KT 320V030

    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]EKVG 041821Z VRB15G25KT 0600 R13///// R31///// SHSN VV003 M01/M03 Q1014 REBLSN RMK WIND 850FT 31025G40KT[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]EKVG 041759Z 33026KT 4000 SHSN BLSN BKN020CB M01/M02 Q1016 RMK WIND 850FT 33022G47KT 310V030[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]EKVG 041725Z 34024G36KT 9999 BKN025CB M00/M03 Q1017 RMK WIND 850FT VRB21G46KT[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]EKVG 041652Z 35021G31KT 6000 -SHSN BLSN BKN030CB M01/M03 Q1017 RMK WIND 850FT 35029G48KT 310V020[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]EKVG 041550Z 36024G36KT 9999 VCSH BKN035CB M01/M05 Q1018 RMK WIND 850FT 35036G51KT[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]EKVG 041450Z 36017KT 9999 BLSN BKN035CB M02/M04 Q1018 RMK WIND 850FT 36025G36KT 330V040[/FONT]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I am gonna leave here until 11, i expect 100 pages of posts and an image of a monster polar low to the north of NI when i return:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Wibbler wrote: »
    No misfires, please. :)

    Or blanks for that matter! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Takeshi_Kovacs


    Temp is going up here currently at 0 C. Strangely dp was going up as well, but now going back down, currently -2.2 C


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