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  • 28-12-2009 5:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭


    alright lads and lasses,
    hope everyone had a good xmas,
    quick question, im going to be buying a bulk amount of cartridges on wed. '7 1/2s' but they are 'eleys' are these a good cartridge, will be using the for game birds and rabbits, and clays off season. dont want to be stuck with a load of crap though. . .
    thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Irish Springer


    eleys are a good cartridges for what you want them for, which specific eley cartridge are they?
    Do you mind me asking how much you getting them for, PM if you like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Would 7.5's not be a bit on the light side for game? I don't shoot game now in fairness, but shot rabbits before and used 6's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Irish Springer


    I mostly shoot woodcock and snipe and always use 7.5's. they would be a tad light for pheasants, you would get away with them on a odd close rabbit. And for clays there spot on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    I mostly shoot woodcock and snipe and always use 7.5's. they would be a tad light for pheasants, you would get away with them on a odd close rabbit. And for clays there spot on.

    7.5s in 32-34 or 36 gr ok for game but if they are 28s a bit light for game shooting I would not be over the moon using them on anything more than clays, snipe, I might push to woodcock reluctantly but nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    I swear by remingtons, great cartridge in all sizes...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭greenpeter


    +1 on the remingtons a super cartridge


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    dicky82 wrote: »
    alright lads and lasses,
    hope everyone had a good xmas,
    quick question, im going to be buying a bulk amount of cartridges on wed. '7 1/2s' but they are 'eleys' are these a good cartridge, will be using the for game birds and rabbits, and clays off season. dont want to be stuck with a load of crap though. . .
    thanks

    eley are a spent force in shot gun shells , they make a vip for competition shooting . i have yet to meet any one that was not sponsored using them.

    also they make a superb ,they are a good shell but way over priced.

    the rest are made in spain along with many cheap shells like ,GBs.

    iv shot GBs for some years and cant fault them at one point most of the top men in the irish sporting team were using them .
    why you might ask ., there are cheap. get to know a shell and fire many.

    7/5 is to small for rabbits and game birds in my opinion,. i dont care what you hear .

    no less than 32 , 6s for pigeon/pheasants and 34 /5s for wabbits.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I use the Eley for all my shooting. I do alot more clay shooting than game recently but i use 36gr 6's for game and 28gr 7.5's for clays. Eley Olympic are grand for clays and run at usually €40 - €42 per 250.

    I did use Express 36gr 6's (or 5's) but cannot find many dealers stocking them for the last while.
    jwshooter wrote: »
    also they make a superb ,they are a good shell but way over priced.

    I always have a case or two of these but only for competitions. The price is about €55 per 250 so too dear to use regularly. Still a great shell though
    the rest are made in spain along with many cheap shells like ,GBs.

    iv shot GBs for some years and cant fault them at one point most of the top men in the irish sporting team were using them .
    why you might ask ., there are cheap.........

    I've have met a few lads shooting these and find them to be an unreliable piece of crap of a shell. Between misfires (up to 2 or 3 per box of 25) the dirt of the barrel after each shot, etc i cannot see why people are still using them. Plus the lads i spoke to had paid €50 per 250 for them. Thats almost as dear as the Eley superb without the results.

    Maybe the shop had big windows but i would not buy the GB's for a start and i sure as s**t would not be paying €50 per 250 for them.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    ezridax wrote: »
    I use the Eley for all my shooting. I do alot more clay shooting than game recently but i use 36gr 6's for game and 28gr 7.5's for clays. Eley Olympic are grand for clays and run at usually €40 - €42 per 250.

    I did use Express 36gr 6's (or 5's) but cannot find many dealers stocking them for the last while.



    I always have a case or two of these but only for competitions. The price is about €55 per 250 so too dear to use regularly. Still a great shell though



    I've have met a few lads shooting these and find them to be an unreliable piece of crap of a shell. Between misfires (up to 2 or 3 per box of 25) the dirt of the barrel after each shot, etc i cannot see why people are still using them. Plus the lads i spoke to had paid €50 per 250 for them. Thats almost as dear as the Eley superb without the results.

    Maybe the shop had big windows but i would not buy the GB's for a start and i sure as s**t would not be paying €50 per 250 for them.

    A , iv won more high guns than a little using GBs . nationally and internationally .
    i have and more As after my name on the icpsa calendar than most if not all one year using them .

    iv shot a 97s in sporting and many scores over 90, was the only AAA shooter in ireland one year.
    in the top few in DTL using GB s . my point !

    if your a crap shot you have to blame some thing.

    not saying you are of coures.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I like the way you added the "not saying you are of course" as an after thought.

    I did not, have not and will not use GBs after what i've seen with them. I don't care how many medals or letters people have the proof is in the pudding, and when i see three lads standing beside me and having more than an average few misfires and problems with the cartridges i won't chance them. Plus if i'm hitting with the Eley and they are working for me i don't see the need to change.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭mossfort


    ive used gamebore 7.5 for clays and never had any of them misfire where as i used eley 7.5 olympics a lot of them have misfired about 2 per hundred.
    the gamebore are no dirtier in the barrel than eleys so i think the guy who had 2 to 3 missfires in 25 gamebores must have a problem with his gun.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    And i've never had a misfire with the Eley so where does that leave it.

    I'm not getting into a big debate or argument over which is dirtier, has more misfires, etc. I don't really care either way. I don't shoot on a national competitive level with the clays. I take part in club shoots and enjoy the clays as a hobby/pastime, so i don't need to worry about the cartridges and their performances as its not going to effect my shooting in any serious way.

    I was, like the rest of you, offering the OP my suggestion on a cartridge for clays and game. If you don't agree thats fine. If we all thought the same the world would be a boring place.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    ezridax wrote: »
    I like the way you added the "not saying you are of course" as an after thought.

    I did not, have not and will not use GBs after what i've seen with them. I don't care how many medals or letters people have the proof is in the pudding, and when i see three lads standing beside me and having more than an average few misfires and problems with the cartridges i won't chance them. Plus if i'm hitting with the Eley and they are working for me i don't see the need to change.

    funny you mention misfires , my shooting buddy and sporting team member WAS a eley fan ,until a Bach of superbs were loaded with low primers .

    eley ireland ,****ed him and his dealer about so much there using RC now .

    i shot the guts of 10,000 GBs a year for seasons at clay and game i have never had a miss fire .

    also i never payed any thing close to 200 euro a 1000 for them


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Thats kinda my point. The lads i speak off all bought their shells from the same person. It must have been a bad batch of GBs if you say they are so good. But to add insult to injury they not only got a crap batch but got stung with the price aswell.

    So look at it from my point of view. I have never used GBs. someone suggests i do. I then see these lads using them with the afore mentioned results and price. You can see my reason for doubting their ability, and my reluctance in using them.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    jwshooter wrote: »
    A , iv won more high guns than a little using GBs . nationally and internationally .
    i have and more As after my name on the icpsa calendar than most if not all one year using them .
    iv shot a 97s in sporting and many scores over 90, was the only AAA shooter in ireland one year.
    in the top few in DTL using GB s
    What are Derek Burnett and Philip Murphy shooting these days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Sparks wrote: »
    What are Derek Burnett and Philip Murphy shooting these days?

    Baschieri&Pellagri F2 flashes i used them my self on OT and DT .


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