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Steroid use in MMA **No allegations, just discussion**

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    #32
    John Ferguson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭John Ferguson


    Chris89 wrote: »
    even if it is cooking oil.

    Lol :D


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    #33
    NG-DOC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭NG-DOC


    Chris89 wrote: »

    Im upset that you are even allowed to have a computer.

    Chris89 you obviously don't even know that he's a jiujitsublack


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    #34
    RustyBeanTin
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭RustyBeanTin


    cowzerp wrote: »
    In Ireland there is no money in MMA so i doubt anyone would take steroids for mma competition as there expensive, in saying that I'm sure some mma fighters do them but they probably would even if not competing in MMA..

    Vanity more than performance id guess.
    steroids are as cheap as chips, a quick search on google will prove that, i personally would like to see them become more acceptable in certain sports such as mma, boxing etc like the way they are in bodybuilding, you could still have the drug tested side to the sport but i cant help but think that they would become even more exciting than they already are


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    #35
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    RustyBeanTin wrote: »
    steroids are as cheap as chips, a quick search on google will prove that, i personally would like to see them become more acceptable in certain sports such as mma, boxing etc like the way they are in bodybuilding, you could still have the drug tested side to the sport but i cant help but think that they would become even more exciting than they already are
    You are clearly not someone who competes. Bodybuilding is to look good. MMA and boxing are a skilled sport.


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    #36
    vasch_ro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭vasch_ro


    especially for Roper;)


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    #37
    Martin Walker
    Registered Users Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Martin Walker


    Chris89 wrote: »
    roper, ill think of a witty rebuttle to your post in a minute.

    But jesus christ almighty on a unicycle... what is this ****e even meant to mean?? Cooking oil?? Im actually lost for words, what do you even mean by any of this muck?

    How exactly were you involved in shows? Paying in doesnt count as being involved.

    I think every1 wants to be number 1, the top dog, and this holds everyone else back from becoming part off a proffesional sport in Ireland

    ..... yeah like that makes perfect sense, what we should do, is take away the competive aspect of the sport and really give it the chance to flourish.

    Thats what they did with soccer in the early 1900's, just told everybody to stop wanting to win, stop wanting to be number 1, and now its a professional sport.

    Im upset that you are even allowed to have a computer.


    This is without a doubt the best post ive read on this board in a long time! Bravo:D


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    #38
    John Ferguson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭John Ferguson


    Martin Walker wrote: »
    This is without a doubt the best post ive read on this board in a long time! Bravo:D

    Here here!!! Bravo


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    #39
    ScottStorm
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭ScottStorm


    juijitsu black wrote: »
    Its a discrace if any1 takes roids to compete in Irish MMA, Its the same (well similar as taking them to compete in the Mosney games in dublin) .......... Its an Amature sport here! At the end of the day, most roids in Ireland are fake! Just cooking oil! And the silly people who take them arent getting any benifit at all. But some guys in the know are on real gear and it aint fair, But what can we do? Unless we get rid off every club in Ireland trying to hold shows and saying they are the best this problem wont stop. I was involved in a couple of shows a few year ago and we set up a big organisation but only a few clus wer interested so the whole thing fell threw. I think every1 wants to be number 1, the top dog, and this holds everyone else back from becoming part off a proffesional sport in Ireland.:mad:

    People wanting to be the best they can be is preventing MMA from becoming a professional sport in Ireland? It has nothing to do with Ireland being a very small country then?
    You mention most steroids in Ireland being cooking oil? do you mean synthol? If so the grotesque cosmetic benefits would be obvious to the user and they would be aware of no strength gains.

    Oh and Mosney is in Meath not Dublin.


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    #40
    RustyBeanTin
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    Raze_them_all wrote: »
    You are clearly not someone who competes. Bodybuilding is to look good. MMA and boxing are a skilled sport.
    well if that is the case, then why are there so many cases of steroid abuse within MMA and so many other 'skilled' sports if they were only designed to make u look good


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    #41
    Roper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Raze_them_all wrote: »
    You are clearly not someone who competes. Bodybuilding is to look good. MMA and boxing are a skilled sport.
    I don't see why skills or appearance have any relevance to a steroids debate.


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    #42
    Sid_Justice
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    Using steroids and other PEDs that are banned in all regulated sports is cheating. There is just a technicality in MMA in which there is no organisation banning their usage in most jurisdictions.

    But, I grow more and more indifferent to their usage. Some people would lead you to believe that any professional athlete, with sensible supervised usage (specialist doctor etc.) can only benefit from their usage. Ultimately making them less injury prone etc.

    Others will tell you that without an outright ban and serious consequences for usage, naive athletes will abuse PEDs and **** them selves up in the short/long term.

    I certainly don't know enough about the various performance enhancers to cast judgement on their legitimacy.


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    #43
    HammerHeadGym
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    Menace2Society wrote: »
    I can put my hand on my heart and say I've never taken gear... I took a testosterone booster once ...

    What do you think steroids are mate?


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    #44
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    HammerHeadGym wrote: »
    What do you think steroids are mate?


    They are a synthetic testosterone, AAS suppresses your natural testo production it doesn't boost it.


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    #45
    juijitsu black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭juijitsu black


    Oh and Mosney is in Meath not Dublin.[/quote]

    Thanks for the geography lesson.;)

    Oh and is sesamee seed oil ( obviovsly wrong spelling) not a type off cooking oil:eek::eek: As per usual I am correct!!! A quuick google search will confirm it.:cool: Oh yeah!!! And yup, the holy jesus on a bike thing was one off best comebacks I have read on this board, lol. :)


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