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Totally hypothetical question

  • 22-12-2009 3:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭


    This really is a hypothetical question, but I would like an answer, or a good guess, if you can manage one.

    Okay, a 250lb bodybuilder, with bodyfat of 5%. What would be a good average squat and bench press for him?

    And if he happened to have a home gym, what is the heaviest kettlebell he is likely to be able to swing at the head of a nasty alien?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭gabgab


    Bearing in mind he is beyond lean at 5% he presumably has more than a few years training behind him,

    I would say bench 140kg, squat 190kg, I have no idea on a kettlebell though. Say he can clean 110kg, so maybe a 65kg bell,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    EileenG wrote: »
    This really is a hypothetical question, but I would like an answer, or a good guess, if you can manage one.

    Okay, a 250lb bodybuilder, with bodyfat of 5%. What would be a good average squat and bench press for him?

    And if he happened to have a home gym, what is the heaviest kettlebell he is likely to be able to swing at the head of a nasty alien?

    Writing a book are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    gabgab wrote: »
    Bearing in mind he is beyond lean at 5% he presumably has more than a few years training behind him,

    I would say bench 140kg, squat 190kg, I have no idea on a kettlebell though. Say he can clean 110kg, so maybe a 65kg bell,

    id say a hell of alot more, id say more along the lines of a 160-170 bench and a 250+ squat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    id say 250lbs at 5% hes gotta be hitting over the 200kg squat 160 bench...is he able to use kettle bells correctly?........wait a minute....and alien?


    we all know its not the size of the bell that counts...its how you use it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    we also need to know does he <3 brad?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭gabgab


    I was kind of working off these to be fair,

    http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/WLSTANDARDS.pdf

    I am fairly sure he loves Brad also, but not as much as you do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    EileenG wrote: »
    This really is a hypothetical question, but I would like an answer, or a good guess, if you can manage one.

    Okay, a 250lb bodybuilder, with bodyfat of 5%. What would be a good average squat and bench press for him?

    And if he happened to have a home gym, what is the heaviest kettlebell he is likely to be able to swing at the head of a nasty alien?

    For a single, it'd have to be 220kg+ squat and 180kg bench imo. The squat's unlikely for most BB's I've seen, bench is more realistic.

    I know a 230lh bodybuilder with a bf% of 12ish % hitting a 210kg bench for example. I know another of around the same weight, but near competition leaness at that weight he was incline benching 75kg 'bells for sets of 5, which translates to well over a 180kg bench.

    So definitely a 180kg bench at the minimum, and a 220kg squat (cos I'm thinking in plates today!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    at 5 % bodyfat and 250lb he would be in competition condition and would probably be unable to lift anything without cramping up from dehydration lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    What if he was 7" tall?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    What if he was 7" tall?

    With a mustache?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    z_topaz wrote: »
    With a mustache?

    Maybe, depends on the size of the moustache.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Procasinator


    What did he have for breakfast?

    Can we see a photo of him holding a shoe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    When did he last....y'know.....go to the toilet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    He's five foot ten, he's a computer geek who lifts obsessively and does swing dancing for fun. He's popular as a dance partner, as he can lift ALL his partners! He lost a fair bit of bodyfat when he got kidnapped by aliens, and he now has an alien girlfriend. He eats steak and broccoli with olive oil and loves Irish cream flavour whey shakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    EileenG wrote: »
    He's five foot ten, he's a computer geek who lifts obsessively and does swing dancing for fun. He's popular as a dance partner, as he can lift ALL his partners! He lost a fair bit of bodyfat when he got kidnapped by aliens, and he now has an alien girlfriend. He eats steak and broccoli with olive oil and loves Irish cream flavour whey shakes.

    Bench 150
    Squat 207.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Bench 150
    Squat 207.5

    I'm glad you are so precise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    By the way, if anyone knows what weapons a nuclear submarine carries, I'd be very happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    EileenG wrote: »
    By the way, if anyone knows what weapons a nuclear submarine carries, I'd be very happy.

    Generally Supersoakers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Generally Supersoakers.

    What are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Adequate and sustainable source of ammo.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Adequate and sustainable source of ammo.;)

    OOOoooh, don't know about that. That might necessitate opening the top hatch :eek: as most of the ammo is on the outside

    Probably not such a good idea on a submarine of any kind :p


    M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    EileenG wrote: »
    By the way, if anyone knows what weapons a nuclear submarine carries, I'd be very happy.

    myself Halnley L and kevpants have just signed a contract to let the USA of a use or guns....

    Cardio is in the reserves....

    there not to impressed hanleys were built by the russians though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,232 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    gabgab wrote: »
    I was kind of working off these to be fair,

    http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/WLSTANDARDS.pdf

    I am fairly sure he loves Brad also, but not as much as you do.

    Is it just me or are those numbers way off??

    Somebody 181lbs, is class as advanced when they lift 164lbs (1RM?).
    I'd consider that to be novice to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    EileenG wrote: »
    This really is a hypothetical question, but I would like an answer, or a good guess, if you can manage one.

    Okay, a 250lb bodybuilder, with bodyfat of 5%. What would be a good average squat and bench press for him?

    And if he happened to have a home gym, what is the heaviest kettlebell he is likely to be able to swing at the head of a nasty alien?

    He's a bodybuilder... it doesn't matter a **** what he's lifting, it's what he looks like he's lifting!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    EileenG wrote: »
    By the way, if anyone knows what weapons a nuclear submarine carries, I'd be very happy.

    Nuclear ones....

    what do i win?

    EDIT: i feel the need to point out that this is an attempt at humour and that i'm not totally devoid of intelligence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    Nuclear ones....

    what do i win?

    EDIT: i feel the need to point out that this is an attempt at humour and that i'm not totally devoid of intelligence

    seriously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    He's a bodybuilder... it doesn't matter a **** what he's lifting, it's what he looks like he's lifting!!

    In this case it does. I need him to swing a kettlebell at a nasty alien with enough force to bash its skull in. I'd like the kettlebell to be heavy enough to do serious damage, but not so heavy it's unlikely he could swing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    myself Halnley L and kevpants have just signed a contract to let the USA of a use or guns....

    Cardio is in the reserves....

    there not to impressed hanleys were built by the russians though...
    why must you drag me into these, ive got like no arms whatsoever, L is fat, your getting on in years and the other two are just show offs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    EileenG wrote: »
    In this case it does. I need him to swing a kettlebell at a nasty alien with enough force to bash its skull in. I'd like the kettlebell to be heavy enough to do serious damage, but not so heavy it's unlikely he could swing it.

    60kg kettlebell ftw...

    depends how he swings it tho!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    60kg kettlebell ftw...

    depends how he swings it tho!!

    Grabs it and swings up. But he's moving at the same time, so that might help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    EileenG wrote: »
    Grabs it and swings up. But he's moving at the same time, so that might help.

    To your audience anything over 30 is gonna seem heavy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    EileenG wrote: »
    He's five foot ten, he's a computer geek who lifts obsessively and does swing dancing for fun. He's popular as a dance partner, as he can lift ALL his partners! He lost a fair bit of bodyfat when he got kidnapped by aliens, and he now has an alien girlfriend. He eats steak and broccoli with olive oil and loves Irish cream flavour whey shakes.

    Mariuz???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    EileenG wrote: »
    He's five foot ten, he's a computer geek who lifts obsessively and does swing dancing for fun. He's popular as a dance partner, as he can lift ALL his partners! He lost a fair bit of bodyfat when he got kidnapped by aliens, and he now has an alien girlfriend. He eats steak and broccoli with Olive Oil and loves Irish cream flavour whey shakes.

    Don't let this guy find out - there'll be hair n teeth everywhere!

    46704.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    why must you drag me into these, ive got like no arms whatsoever, L is fat, your getting on in years and the other two are just show offs.

    im actually younger than kevpants....and that the last time i true to include you in the fun :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    EileenG wrote: »
    He lost a fair bit of bodyfat when he got kidnapped by aliens, and he now has an alien girlfriend.


    Was he violated?.

    This might effect his squat :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Was he violated?.

    This might effect his squat :o

    No, but the aliens really love eating humans, so he spent a lot of time trying not to look too tasty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    EileenG wrote: »
    No, but the aliens really love eating humans, so he spent a lot of time trying not to look too tasty.

    ok wtf happened EileenG???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Glad someone asked!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    wtf is this thread on. Who hacked your boards account Eileen?!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭gnolan


    ok wtf happened EileenG???

    This is irrefutable evidence of mental degredation caused by long-term carbohydrate depletion....that b!tch be gone crazy yo!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    gnolan wrote: »
    This is irrefutable evidence of mental degredation caused by long-term carbohydrate depletion....that b!tch be gone crazy yo!

    Sig!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Carbicide ftw

    3987052181_5c781aa580_o.jpg


    image001.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    Some pros who weigh in around that at that BF have 220kg presses for reps. Squats of 300ish too.

    I guess there are so many factors involved though, it's hard to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭gabgab


    Mellor wrote: »
    Is it just me or are those numbers way off??

    Somebody 181lbs, is class as advanced when they lift 164lbs (1RM?).
    I'd consider that to be novice to be honest.

    For a standing strict press? I dunno there is always lots of chat about these and how accurate they are but I think a 75kg press at 82kg is good going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    In case anyone is interested, I FINISHED MY BOOK TODAY!!!

    Of course, that means that in a couple of weeks, I'll be doing rewrites, so I'll have lots of questions about what sort of exercises you could do to stay strong on an Alien ship with less than earth gravity, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    Hi There

    Didn't know you were writing a book (fairly newbie), but congrats on finishing.

    So you have probably earned a few days to put your feet up, kick back and enjoy the festive season :) Time enough for rewrites in the new year.

    Not sure that I can be much help with exercises on an alien ship with zero gravity, having never been abducted myself :D

    P.S. The recipe for the cottage cheese mousses rocks, Thanks a bunch.

    Best Regards & Seasons Greetings,

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Thanks!

    Not a zero gravity ship, just less than earth gravity. And since they are tasty, they are kept away from the ship's crew, so no access to gym. Of course, on an alien ship, there are no cheat meals...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    EileenG wrote: »
    Thanks!

    Not a zero gravity ship, just less than earth gravity. And since they are tasty, they are kept away from the ship's crew, so no access to gym. Of course, on an alien ship, there are no cheat meals...

    Congrats on finishing....

    Just wondering

    Are you on acid by any chance??:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    No. Anything stronger than coffee makes it really tough to write.


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