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Quiting New Years 2010

  • 21-12-2009 10:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I'm hoping to start my final ever quit on the 2nd of January. If there is anyone out there planning to give it a shot or anyone who has successfully quit i'd love to hear your suggestions that helped.

    After trying and failing 4 times in the last 18 months, the longest being 4 months of smokes i'm really determined to quit once and for all. I've been smoking since i was 13 (about 14 years), 20 a day for the last 10 of them.

    Cheers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭CityCentreMan


    I smoked fairly heavily from the age of 13 to 43 when I gave them up. I am 48 now and thankfully I see no temptation at all to go back.

    Before quitting, I tried unsuccessfully a number of times using various methods including willpower alone, hypnosis, nicotine chewing gum.

    The combination that worked for me was :
    a) Getting to the point of really really wanting to give them up;
    b) Going on Alan Carrs - Easyway to give Up Smoking course;
    c) Reading the Alan Carr book.
    d) introduction of the smoking ban in pubs.

    I asked my wife that year to enroll me on the Alan Carr course as my Christmas present.

    The course was good but it was'nt a "Magic bullet". But in conjunction with the book, I eventually gave them up.

    Having smoked for so long, I honestly had little memory of what it was like to spend a day without smoking. My memories of "Nicotine Deprivation" were limited to the agony of translantic flights & associated withdrawal that that entailed. My brain, both concious & subconcious were horrified at the prospect of never never being able to enjoy a cigerette ever again.

    What I liked about Alan Carr's method was that it gave me a different perspective in that smoking was'nt something that I was giving up but rather, it was a hell / prison from which I was escaping.

    Effectively it is almost like a "Positive Brain Washing" experience which counteracts all of the Negative Brainwashing that we recieve throughout our smoking career. By Negative Brainwashing I mean:
    a) Advertising;
    b) Sponsorship;
    c) Cool portrayal of smokers on TV, Media;
    d) The conflicting advice from other smokers who (to children & non-smokers) advise against smoking but still continue to do so themselves (and appear to enjoy themselves)
    e) The advice that giving up is very very difficult & that tremendous willpower is required.

    The approach starts off not by trying to persuade you to stop but rather it forces you to question why you ever started in the first place and what is it about smoking that could possibly cause you to want to continue.

    Does it make you live longer?
    Does it make you more attractive to the opposite sex?
    Does it make you smell better?
    Is it going to make you rich?
    In terms of enjoyment how does it compare with sex?
    etc etc etc

    It also makes you question your apparant "enjoyment" of those cigerettes that everyone really enjoys or thinks that they do...

    With coffee after a big meal;
    After sex;
    First thing in the morning;
    After a flight...

    But you are forced to realize that the reasons that these are enjoyable is simply and only because these follow a long period of "deprivation" and your body, in its nicotine addicted state, is screaming at you to give it some nicotine. As such the perceived enjoyment is'nt like sex it is just the relief felt by a junkie getting his / her fix.

    Having established that smoking is totally illogical & that the only reason that you smoke is because of the physical addiction he then moves on to outline and to get you to convince yourself of the benefits of stopping:

    1) I was spending about EU100 / week (which cost has now been offset by 2 kids so i am not any richer anyway!)
    2) Cheaper life insurance;
    3) Wheeze gone
    4) Fitter;
    5) Wife says I smell better;
    6) Hopefully will longer;
    7) Less likely to get cancer
    etc etc

    The AC method also goes a long way to addressing the myth that smoking is so so hard to "give up". The physical addiction, in reality lasts only about 3 - 4 weeks and effectively the stregth of it is further reduced each day.

    It is the mental addiction which I had always found hard to deal with and this is the part that Alan Carr addresses so well. When you have convinced yourself that:

    a) There are no good logical reasons to continue;
    b) Smoking has no benefits whatsoever;
    c) Giving up has loads & loads of benefits;
    d) Giving up is going to be a lot easier than everyone make out.

    Then your brain, both concious & subconcious, is faced with a dilemna that makes it difficult to continue. at that point, the only issue to be addressed is the physical addiction and to be honest - its not that bad.

    The Alan Carr book, "The Easy Way to Give Up smoking" will cost you less than the price of 2 packets of cigerettes. I would honestly recommend it to you as being a no-lose option.

    It is a sad reflection of the dangers of smoking that Alan Carr himself left it too late and he died of lung cancer. I hope that I did'nt leave it too late and that you dont either.

    I have been free from smoking now for 5 years and my most frequent nightmare is that I wake up all blocked up & back smoking again.

    I wish you all the best in your quest to escape from your smoking addiction. It is something that you wont ever regret doing.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭dollyk


    :D thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Evil-p


    wow city centre man! Fantastic post. Plenty of food for thought there. I have never tried alan carr but i think i'll give it a go. I hope to start me own family in the next couple of years and i want to be well clear of smokes before I start trying. My partner smokes and has no intention of quitting at the moment but i'm sure he will in the next while. I have no intention of pushing the issue with him as I think you have to get there on your own! Methinks Easons might be getting a visit on St Stephens day;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭CityCentreMan


    Thanks for the thanks & I wish both of you all the best in the new year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I smoked fairly heavily from the age of 13 to 43 when I gave them up. I am 48 now and thankfully I see no temptation at all to go back. :)

    Almost exactly my story except I started at 15 and quit Jan1st 2009.

    It'll be a year tomorrow since I had my last. Not a puff since.

    Health and nicotine gum did it. 6 months before quitting I started working out hard so by jan1st I was really feeling held back by cigs and was ready to quit, since then I've turned into mr.annoyinglyhealthy, but damn it feels good.

    Very best of luck to you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Dboy85


    Dont make the mistake of trying to do everything at once would be my advice! People tend to get ahead of themselves on new years trying to do it all like dieting, quitting the drink and excercising more. If you get bored of one your brain will go into overdrive and make cravings more heavy.
    Just focus on the fags!!

    Remember when you put your last one down your a non-smoker. You dont have to choose to be a smoker

    Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I used a lot of Carr's info but not the course.

    I really liked how he explodes the myth that cigs relax you and points out that the "relaxation" or calming you feel is simply the easing of nicotine withdrawl symptoms.

    Somehow that struck a chord with me, it made me realise I wasnt using cigs i was a slave to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭mjg


    Stopped for two days now, lost track of how many times I've stopped over the years. Stopping smoking was actually the reason that I joined boards.ie.

    This time though....

    Good luck to all who are planning on stopping, well done to all that have stopped already.

    Happy New Year Without Nicotine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    best of luck Mjg.

    You're on day two so tomorrow or the next day will be the worst, after that you could start to feel some improvement but it'll be slight and subtle.

    What I found was that after the initial 3day break the feelings eased really slightly and subtly.

    In other words day to day you may not feel improvement but when you're on Day Five you'll certainly be able to notice feeling better than on Day Two.

    So hang in there. It WILL get easier soon. And let us know how its going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭sqlpod


    Stopping New Years Day, heads in the right place , thanks to Saint allen Carr downloaded audio and just let him explain the stupidity of smoking, and that I am not giving up anything just getting my life back.
    Also got Paul McKenna's stop smoking audio on download not as good as AC but it gives you alternate tip's that may help if you need it.
    Good luck to anyone stopping and just remember your giving up only one thing DRUG ADDICTION !!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Its a small thing but I think quitting on the dot of midnight new years day really helped me.

    Throughout the last year I've know to the minute how long its been that i've quit, i just look at the date.

    And I had it in my mind that if I failed I'd have to wait until the next new years day which was unacceptable to me and helped give me some strength.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    sqlpod wrote: »
    Stopping New Years Day, heads in the right place , thanks to Saint allen Carr downloaded audio and just let him explain the stupidity of smoking, and that I am not giving up anything just getting my life back.
    Also got Paul McKenna's stop smoking audio on download not as good as AC but it gives you alternate tip's that may help if you need it.
    Good luck to anyone stopping and just remember your giving up only one thing DRUG ADDICTION !!!

    Best of luck to you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭sqlpod


    Thanks Mike, and although my wife and I are not quiting on the stroke it wont be long after as we have a little ceremony to perform, just to embed it into ourselves,
    God how these horrid things take you over, but now it's time too take over and prove its only MIND over MATTER...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,916 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Just to say - I'm not an anti smoker by any means (off them since August 22nd 2009 - 4 months :D) but this article helped me as did the link underneath it.

    The Golden Rule is "Never take another Puff" (courtesy Joel Spitzer quit smoking guide)

    To many, cold turkey conjures up visions of torturous pain, suffering and general drudgery. In fact, it is easier to stop smoking using the cold turkey method than by using any other technique. Cold turkey induces less suffering and creates a shorter period of withdrawal. Most important, cold turkey is the approach by which the smoker has the best chance of success.

    Smokers must recognize that they are drug addicts. Nicotine is a powerfully addictive drug. Once the smoker has smoked for a fairly long time, the body requires maintenance of a certain level of nicotine in the bloodstream. If this level is not maintained, the smoker will experience varying degrees of drug withdrawal. The lower the level, the greater the intensity. As long as any nicotine remains in the bloodstream the body will keep craving its full complement. Once the smoker quits, the nicotine level will eventually drop to zero and all physical withdrawal will cease. Cravings for an occasional cigarette may continue, but this is due to past psychological conditioning and not to a physical dependence.

    Cutting down on cigarettes or use of nicotine replacement strategies throws the smoker into a chronic state of drug withdrawal. As soon as the smoker fails to reach the minimum requirement of nicotine, the body starts demanding it. As long as there is any nicotine in the bloodstream, the body will demand its old requirement. Smoking just one or two a day or wearing a patch which is gradually reducing the amount of nicotine being delivered will result in the smoker not achieving the minimum required level, creating a chronic state of peak drug withdrawal.

    This state will continue throughout the rest of the smoker's life unless one of two steps is taken to rectify it. First, the smoker can stop delivering nicotine altogether. Nicotine will be metabolized or totally excreted from the body and the withdrawal will stop forever. Or, the smoker can return to the old level of consumptions accomplishing nothing.

    Therefore, cold turkey is the method of choice. Once the smoker stops, withdrawal will end within two weeks. If you smoke, we can help you over this crucial period of time. Once it is past, you can rest assured that you will never need to smoke again. Then, to stay off you will simply need to remember to Never Take Another Puff!


    Read this FREE E-Book - it worked for me:

    http://whyquit.com/NTAP_large_print_212_pages.pdf


    The best way I can explain the feeling is being "Free" - I even get a buzz out of the fact that when I'm travelling by plane I'm not thinking "when/where can I get a smoke?!"

    Best of Luck to everyone trying - the first 3 days are the worst, then it gets easier!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 bmw316


    smoking like mad for the last 5 months those 5 euro packs of crap me heart nearly came up my throat today will have to give up now i have seen the light i did not think i make it through today that kink is very good so here goes i give it a shot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Good luck! One day at a time, get through the three days and it'll start to get easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭ulysses32


    Hi all,

    I am on Day four of the quit. I am using patches and things are going okay. Day three(yesterday was brutal), things improved today. Anybody else using patches?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭poster


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Cadyboo


    Hi, Im hoping to give up monday. Im on nights that week so it is going to be tough. I can manage no problem when Im in work for 3.5hours, then its break time and suddenly Im dying for a smoke. I know its in my head, so I just need to get it out of my head!!
    I was off them a few years ago for 10 months, so I know I can do it. My fear is knowing I can NEVER smoke again, and thats what makes me crack. Am going to try the minute at a time thing that I have read about in another thread.
    Just saw an ad for nicotine mini mints, anyone seen it? What do you think?
    The very best of luck to all who are making 2010 the year they change their lives forever. Hope to hear how it is going for you all!!!
    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I've used the patches and gum and lozenges at different times..

    I found the patches were too much of a constant dose. Smoking is really about highs and lows and the patches didn't give me that. I was also having really intense vivid dreams.

    The gum was great, but the best I've found is the lozenges(that's what they call them here in the us). They last about fifteen mins so they're most similar to cigs in their delivery of nicotine.

    I passed one year on jan1st and I really don't think I could have done it without them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Cadyboo wrote: »
    My fear is knowing I can NEVER smoke again, and thats what makes me crack.

    Oh god I know that feeling!

    The evil little nicotine receptors in your brain are playing games with you. The good thing is those crisis periods only last a few minutes and if you can get through that your winning.

    Hang in there and it will get easier.

    Best of luck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Lawros Tache


    Cadyboo wrote: »
    Hi, Im hoping to give up monday. Im on nights that week so it is going to be tough. I can manage no problem when Im in work for 3.5hours, then its break time and suddenly Im dying for a smoke. I know its in my head, so I just need to get it out of my head!!

    This is the perfect example of just how much of the smoking thing is HABIT. If you can find something else to do at those times when you would normally be smoking (break-times, after a meal, first thing in morning etc.) then you're halfway there. For me, my giving up coincided with changing jobs.(used to be a barman) I didn't realise what an advantage this was until my ex-boss asked me back to give him a dig-out for a night. I was grand all night, no bother, until it was half 11 and time for my break. I couldn't believe how strong the craving was! So strong that i had to leave the pub for my break and stand outside! THIS WAS THREE YEARS LATER!!
    Cadyboo wrote: »
    My fear is knowing I can NEVER smoke again, and thats what makes me crack.

    This was huge for me too, i never wanted to smoke again, but at the same time just couldn't handle the vastness of never, ever being able to smoke again and falling back into the habit.
    My solution, and i understand this isn't for everyone, was to carry a pack around with me everywhere. When i gave up i had 16 smokes left in the box and i carried them around with me for about 3 months in my jacket pocket. Every time i changed jackets, i put them in the next jacket so they were always at hand like a sort of comfort-blanket. I knew i could always have one if i really wanted (and on a couple of occasions actually had one in my mouth, but didn't light it...) so for me, the panic and the "never ever having one again" just faded away. After three months i felt i was strong enough to get rid of 15 of them and just kept 1 in the box until a year had passed. Then one day i realised i had forgotten to transfer the box to my new jacket and had in fact washed the pack in the jacket over a week earlier! Knew i was ok then. Maybe not ideal for everyone, but deffo helped me. For what it's worth, i'm 9 and a half years off them now but still get the odd, slight craving. Dont think it ever fully goes away so dont beat urself up too bad if you're still getting cravings in a few months...


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    Cadyboo wrote: »
    Hi, Im hoping to give up monday. Im on nights that week so it is going to be tough. I can manage no problem when Im in work for 3.5hours, then its break time and suddenly Im dying for a smoke. I know its in my head, so I just need to get it out of my head!!
    I was off them a few years ago for 10 months, so I know I can do it. My fear is knowing I can NEVER smoke again, and thats what makes me crack.


    The best advice I can give you is to take ONE day at a time. One day. Just tell yourself you won't smoke today. That's it. You'll also have a sense of satisfaction when you get into bed every night after another day smoke-free.
    If you start thinking about the weekend and your friend's party and the summer holidays and next Christmas you'll freak out.
    One day at a time, it's the ONLY way to go.

    Nothing and nobody can make you crack but yourself, and you're well able to do this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Cadyboo



    This was huge for me too, i never wanted to smoke again, but at the same time just couldn't handle the vastness of never, ever being able to smoke again and falling back into the habit.
    My solution, and i understand this isn't for everyone, was to carry a pack around with me everywhere. When i gave up i had 16 smokes left in the box and i carried them around with me for about 3 months in my jacket pocket. Every time i changed jackets, i put them in the next jacket so they were always at hand like a sort of comfort-blanket. I knew i could always have one if i really wanted (and on a couple of occasions actually had one in my mouth, but didn't light it...) so for me, the panic and the "never ever having one again" just faded away. After three months i felt i was strong enough to get rid of 15 of them and just kept 1 in the box until a year had passed. Then one day i realised i had forgotten to transfer the box to my new jacket and had in fact washed the pack in the jacket over a week earlier! Knew i was ok then. Maybe not ideal for everyone, but deffo helped me. For what it's worth, i'm 9 and a half years off them now but still get the odd, slight craving. Dont think it ever fully goes away so dont beat urself up too bad if you're still getting cravings in a few months...
    I might try that alright as I will have some left in the morning. Got an inhaler thing to have something to do with hands.
    Thanks so much for all your support!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Steo46


    I smoked my last just before midnight on Arthur's day. I know I will never smoke again. I had a few hairy moments where I was going through my pockets looking for the fags but I just thought about the health benefits and the financial gain and that got me through so far. Good luck to everybody who are quitting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭dollyk


    read the whyquit book. it was great, have to say ive read every book on addiction i could get my eyeballs on. this quit is by far the easiest quit ive ever done. but i wont forget that one puff can knock this all back to day one ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ramb73


    Try Alan Carr - worked for me, my husband and many friends - now off them over 5 years!!! http://www.allencarrseasyway.co.uk/mall/departmentpage.cfm/AllenCarr/_164022


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Ahsurelookit


    Podgeandrodge, that was a great post. I am off them 3 days, cold turkey. That post has reaffirmed what I was thinking. Ive bought the gum just incase I got really bad but I dont want to use it as I just want the nicotine gone from my body. So far so good, apart from the lightheadedness when I have a craving, but I can deal with that! I have been building myself up for this since early december and started when I bought my new car by giving up smoking while driving- was prob the place I smoked most, ya know the usual set of traffic lights where you light up etc, etc I would suggest it to people who want to give up, eliminate places of habit one by one.

    My boyfriend is finding it really tough to give them up though, hes having mood swings, road rage, the lot!!! I will have to show him that article later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Hi my name is Dollie and I am an addict!

    There I've said it! I gave up for four years and went back on them about six years ago. I came across this forum a few days ago. Since going back on them I would only smoke socially or when I felt very stressed. So I convinced myself that since I had been able to give up for four years, and since I don't smoke daily, that I was in control. Wrong!

    Reading the threads in this forum I've realised that I really am addicted.

    I've had health problems in the past related to smoking and really, I know in my heart, cutting down is not enough.

    I decided I'd re read Allen Carr, which I read the first time around a few days ago after coming across some advice on this forum. But I haven't been able to get into town to buy it because of the snow.

    Yesterday, because I was trying to keep warm and find stuff to do, I started cleaning out shelves and cupboards, that I probably haven't touched in a few months. Lo and behold- what was staring at me only Allen Carr's book!

    I'm taking this as a sign. I was smoking New Years Eve and the night after and I really wanted one since but I know when I get back into the swing of things (haven't been out or at work since because of the weather) I'll be wanting one.

    But I really, really want to be a non-smoker again.

    I know I can't even have a drag - because that's what got me started again last time.

    Could this be the year, when I finally quit properly for once and for all?

    Good luck to everyone else who is trying


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Hi dolliemix
    I really hope you succeed, its tough , its has to be one of the toughest things you'll ever do and its ongoing, so many feckin battles happening, it creeps up on you when you least expect it.
    I was 30 a day , gave them up so many times and still ended back smoking, always short term. :mad::mad:
    Am into my fourth month now and its great, but even has I WRITE NOW Iam thinking about having a cig but not has bad has it was two days ago, its down to two days or one day I remember when it was every 15 minutes, 25 minutes and on and on.
    I really hope you do it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Hi guys

    I had my first big test about two hours ago. Something kind of crappy happened. I was standing beside a shop after the crappy thing happened and thought I really need a cigarette. It's funny it's the first time in over a week I've had that feeling. Anyway I got on my bike instead.

    Now I don't even want one and feel much better now that I didn't give in. If I had given in I would felt crap about the crap thing and felt even more crap about giving in. And would have felt even crappier about the crap thing because it had made me give in. If you my drift....:)

    Now I feel great that I didn't give in and I know that crap things can happen and I don't smoke after them.

    So I've identified danger zone Number 1: When crappy things happen. - I am vulnerable but I will not give in because smoking will only make that crappy feeling worse.

    I can't give in this time I just can't. Let all the crappy things happen - but at least the fact that I don't smoke is going to make me feel just great :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Day 12

    This is getting harder!

    Tomorrow will be a big test. I will be consuming alcohol.
    Wouldn't it be great if I wake up on Friday with no nicotine in my system?

    How is everyone else doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭ulysses32


    Hi guys,

    Coming to the end of day 14 here and feeling quite good. i know what you mean dolliemix, about the alcohol, haven't been out for a beer since the quit and don't think I'm ready for that test yet! Let us know how you get on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Just back from night out and first big test. I passed! Two glasses of wine later and no nicotine. (Although I did buy a burger on the way home which I never do).

    I kept it at two glasses of wine to stay safe. I wonder would I have given in after three?

    It wasn't too hard to be honest. Last time I gave up you was before the smoking ban so I don't know how I managed. It's a bit easier maybe with the smoking ban because I would have to physically move myself if I wanted to smoke.

    I do miss the banter outside though!

    Maybe it's just in my head but the cycle home seemed easier than normal

    So on to Day 14.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Another good evening. Three glasses of wine and no nicotine. At one point I had the best excuse in the world to have one and immediately thought, i need a cigarette for calm. But then I thought about the horrible taste and the fact that I'm finding it easier to cycle so I didn't give in. And here I am at home smoke free but very drunk!

    This is all coming back to me. I remember the last time I gave up I used to get really drunk on less alcohol than when I smoked. And now its happening again. Can anyone else relate to this?

    Anyway - Day 15 - half a month. My original target of three weeks is fast approaching. I'm glad I went out drinking. I was going to avoid it. But I feel super strong now that I know I can do the drinking thing and not smoke :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Ulysses32

    Just noticed your post there. Hope you're doing ok.It feels great really but it's so hard at the same time.

    Terenc

    Thanks for the good wishes. Four months? Wow!! I'll try and keep alert for the 'unexpected' temptations. Do you feel great? You should. I wonder will I still be posting here in 3 and a half months time, like you, giving advice to a newbie?! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Today was easy. Just reminded myself that i 'used' to be a smoker! I don't think I craved a cigarette once today.

    Not going to get complacent though. The evil addiction is bound to test me when I least expect it

    Day 17 :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Mr Yellow


    dolliemix wrote: »
    Just reminded myself that i 'used' to be a smoker

    Well done & i like the positive attitude.

    People out therre envy you. Best wishes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Mr Yellow wrote: »
    Well done & i like the positive attitude.

    People out therre envy you. Best wishes

    Thanks.

    I saw your posts in the November thread. Are you still off them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    dolliemix wrote: »
    Just back from night out and first big test. I passed! Two glasses of wine later and no nicotine.

    Wow congratulations! Thats a major test to pass. I had a friend who was a pharmacist and he explained to me the chemistry of how alcahol quadruples the intensity of nicotine cravings. The two substances are opposite and complimentary and so the desire to smoke rises and in addition your decision making is messed with by the alcahol. The majority of my fails at quitting were alcahol related.

    But you made it so thats great!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Wow congratulations! Thats a major test to pass. I had a friend who was a pharmacist and he explained to me the chemistry of how alcahol quadruples the intensity of nicotine cravings. The two substances are opposite and complimentary and so the desire to smoke rises and in addition your decision making is messed with by the alcahol. The majority of my fails at quitting were alcahol related.

    But you made it so thats great!

    For now anyway!

    Thanks for that explanation. Funnily enough, I tend to get overly logical when I'm drunk so this info should definitely help!

    And well done you for getting over a year. Thats some achievement :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    You'll get an added strength when you get further into it, a kind "i cant go through this **** again" strength, when you realise the emotional price of quitting. At least i did anyway...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Mr Yellow


    dolliemix wrote: »
    Thanks.

    I saw your posts in the November thread. Are you still off them?

    unfortunately i failed, after 2 damn months, just had so much sh*te going on i gave in!!! Building myself up for my next & final attempt tho, need to decide when


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Mr Yellow wrote: »
    unfortunately i failed, after 2 damn months, just had so much sh*te going on i gave in!!! Building myself up for my next & final attempt tho, need to decide when

    They(Carr?) say nine weeks is a really dangerous trigger time for some reason. Maybe the nicotine receptors in your brain are going through one last spasm who knows.

    Jump right back on the wagon and in time the slip will hardly matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Mr Yellow


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    They(Carr?) say nine weeks is a really dangerous trigger time for some reason. Maybe the nicotine receptors in your brain are going through one last spasm who knows.

    Jump right back on the wagon and in time the slip will hardly matter.

    Hey InTheTrees

    Yea, ive read allan carr books a few times now!!
    Not sure about the 9 week thing, however i do know a few people who failed around this time limit also.

    Thanks for the words of inspiration, must get clean asap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭CityCentreMan


    For anyone out there who is struggling at the moment - stick with it - it will be worth it. I am off now more than 5 years and every day I am reminded of how lucky I am to be cured from smoking - you are not giving something - you are escaping from hell!

    If you are using the Allan Carr book, keep reading & re-reading it!

    When you cant read it - go over the points in your head...
    1) What were the silly influences that caused you to start in the first place?
    2) What benefits do you get from smoking? - Appearance? Attractiveness? Smell? Health? Financial? Cool?
    3) Do the mental arithmithic - 2 Packs per day X 8 Euros per day X 7 Days per week X 4 Weeks Per Month X 12 months Per Year X the last 15 years.....
    4) Go thru the health issues in your head...Lung Cancer, Throat Cancer, Cancer of the Mouth, Heart Disease, Clogged Arteries, More Teeth Decay, Emphesemia, Various ENT issues, Lack of fitness, reduced sexual performance, etc etc
    5) Think of the positive impact of giving up...More money, improved health, no bad breath, less stained teeth, reduced smoke skin aging, longer life, better sex (still not as often as I would like!!), not having to go outside for a smoke, no worrying when you can get the next smoke, being free, FREE , free , FREE ....Being free from the curse of smoking is the best thing of all.......Keep it up everyone and if you do get led astray dont give up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    Really helpful thread. My story so far only been smoking about 5 years and a few serious things cropped up in the last 6 months that have made me re think everything about smoking. My points and experiences are similar to what city center man has already said. However here are some more that really hit home...

    I planned on giving up in 2010 regardless.
    My brother was in a throat cancer ward over xmas. He doesn't smoke and barely drinks (first sign). Seeing people with no voiceboxes and tubes coming out of their necks so they could get air to their lungs after half their throats being surgically removed, a lot of these people had only a pen and paper to communicate (Sign 2)
    I am a very open person and I like to enjoy whatever it is I do and I rarely think about consequences as long as I am happy. These things I have witnessed over the last few months have been instrumental in coming to terms with the fact that You cant be happy with everything you do and no matter what I thought happens happens in the future that my health was always going to suffer from smoking.

    I gave up on the first and haven't smoked since. The first 10 days were easy. I couldn't believe it but its got slightly tougher since. I still have not had a cig but I am staying strong. I hope everyone else in the same boat is.

    I was in a taxi last sat and the driver had no voicebox, removed as a result of smoking. Used an electronic voice device to speak. This was just another sign and reason for me why people should not smoke if you value your health. Think about this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    battser wrote: »
    Really helpful thread. My story so far only been smoking about 5 years and a few serious things cropped up in the last 6 months that have made me re think everything about smoking. My points and experiences are similar to what city center man has already said. However here are some more that really hit home...

    I planned on giving up in 2010 regardless.
    My brother was in a throat cancer ward over xmas. He doesn't smoke and barely drinks (first sign). Seeing people with no voiceboxes and tubes coming out of their necks so they could get air to their lungs after half their throats being surgically removed, a lot of these people had only a pen and paper to communicate (Sign 2)
    I am a very open person and I like to enjoy whatever it is I do and I rarely think about consequences as long as I am happy. These things I have witnessed over the last few months have been instrumental in coming to terms with the fact that You cant be happy with everything you do and no matter what I thought happens happens in the future that my health was always going to suffer from smoking.

    I gave up on the first and haven't smoked since. The first 10 days were easy. I couldn't believe it but its got slightly tougher since. I still have not had a cig but I am staying strong. I hope everyone else in the same boat is.

    I was in a taxi last sat and the driver had no voicebox, removed as a result of smoking. Used an electronic voice device to speak. This was just another sign and reason for me why people should not smoke if you value your health. Think about this!

    Wow that is scary. Sorry to hear about your brother. How is he doing?

    I guess that could be any of us this time next year if we go back on them. I'd feel so guilty if I put my family through that, when I have the option now to remain strong and not give in.

    I had another strong craving today at work, but I had no cigarettes near me and wouldn't have had time to go out purchase any, so I continued on, and forgot about them. I ended up just dealing with the mini crisis. I guess in the past smoking would have been an added stress, as I would have had to find a way to get the cigarette and then return to the mini-crisis anyway!

    It is crazy really that you feel you're relieving stress by smoking, when in reality you're just adding to it.

    I would have had a few more on the way home then, cos they were there!

    Now I am sitting happy, smoke free, taste buds working, clean hair and clothes. But most of all I'm so frigging proud of myself that the days are adding up more than I expected myself.

    I just can't wait for the three week mark, when I get to set another target! But all the time knowing I'm just taking one day at a time!

    Well done Baster and City Centre Man. It does really help to know there are others out there like me!

    Mr Yellow, it would be great to see you on board again. Remember you were inspiring me at first!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    dolliemix wrote: »
    It is crazy really that you feel you're relieving stress by smoking, when in reality you're just adding to it.

    One of the Carr factoids really made an impression on me.

    The feeling that a cigarette is relaxing you is actually because when you haevnt smoked in a while (15mins? 20mins?) the withdrawl symptoms start making you edgy and irritable, so when you smoke you are in fact becoming more relaxed but only because you're delaying the withdrawl a little more. So you're actually smoking to stay normal, and thats all.

    Its like an alcaholic saying having a drink relaxes them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Mr Yellow


    Hey guys & gals

    @Battser - hope it works out for the best for your brother

    @ Dollie mix - hopefully, i'll be one of you soon enough again. Must crack out Mr Allan Carrs book soon! Hopefully, my inspiration will come from you guys

    When tempted, rejoice that you are not addicts to the worlds greatest killer. Turn to the reasons why you want to stay clean, not why you should spark up again, we all know its what we trully do not wnat to do!


    KEEP IT UP :cool:


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