WITcard

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 12:40pm #1

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MitchKoobski · 20-12-2009 2:34pm

walk 30 secs up from the spar shop to the AIB Bank.
get change.
top up.
buy pens.

and handling cash in the gallery and spar just brings us into the whole problem of security blah blah blah never gonna happen.

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 3:41pm

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AdMMM · 20-12-2009 3:56pm

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I love the idea of the WIT card.

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 4:00pm

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MitchKoobski · 20-12-2009 4:15pm

i think the WIT card is pretty handy.
the proposal is already after being put foward for all of the top up points to accept smaller coins, but theyre never going to have any cash option for the gallery or spar.

its all a matter of security.
if there was cash in a till, there has a to be a minimum of two people working on the tills to prevent theft by one employee. then theres the thought of someone just running in off the street and trying to rob the spar.
if theres a change machine anywhere the same thing happens. it would have to be emptied at the end of everyday just like a till, and all that money in one place just goes along with the risk of theft.
with the WIT card they dont have to worry about any of that. they only need one person at the counter to swipe a card, and they can open and close by themselves.

and if you know in the morning that you're going to need change for the WIT card, then why not just get change on your way into college in the morning?

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 4:20pm

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imported_guy · 20-12-2009 4:27pm

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OMG I THINK YOURE ON TO SOMETHING HERE!!!!!!1111oneone, they probably top up online :P or might have a machine in like a staff room or something (do they exists? i know some/most lecturers have their own office), i hate the wit card too i think we should have the cash option.

MitchKoobski · 20-12-2009 4:29pm

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thats becuase they're not real people.

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 4:32pm

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sashafierce · 20-12-2009 4:38pm

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imported_guy · 20-12-2009 4:38pm

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ive only seen one of my lecturers ever eating etc in a canteen (it was in the industrial estate campus and they accept cash there :rolleyes:)

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 4:44pm

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imported_guy · 20-12-2009 4:49pm

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pff hes a sound guy :P* not a snob at all :P

* my opinion may change on 2nd of febuary :P

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 5:08pm

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bp_me · 20-12-2009 5:11pm

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Direct debit from AIB a/c via the ATM machine in the Atrium. Job done

sashafierce · 20-12-2009 5:14pm

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imported_guy · 20-12-2009 5:20pm

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imported_guy wrote: »

pff hes a sound guy :P* not a snob at all :P

* my opinion may change on 2nd of febuary :P

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sashafierce · 20-12-2009 5:23pm

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imported_guy · 20-12-2009 7:37pm

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not very good at reading between the lines are we :rolleyes:

my lecturer :P shock/horror :O

wits2 · 21-12-2009 12:34pm

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LOL.. oh god..

Tom O'Toole the head of the school of business (the "snobby lectures") eats in the canteen regulary.. loads of the lecture eat there & have meetings there..
The gallery being card only is good.. it keeps it for students, staff and guests only. no screaming school kids runnin around it..
WIT was one of the first colleges to bring in that type of card, and its envyed in alot of colleges, being able to have the key to my apartment, get a discount on food, get a discount in most clothes shops, access the lib (when they fix the doors) and not have to carry cash around, all on one card is pretty handy. Anyway there was talk that there goina program the machines to take 20c & 50c soon so that will be pretty handy..
Anyway.. anybody that wont walk to the aib/dome/canteen & ask for change... is just laaaazzzzyyyyy :P

holla! · 21-12-2009 1:27pm

MitchKoobski wrote: »

its all a matter of security.
if there was cash in a till, there has a to be a minimum of two people working on the tills to prevent theft by one employee.

Incorrect. There only needs to be one person on the tills. Theft is prevented by the use of cameras and staff searches at the end of the day.

MitchKoobski wrote: »

if theres a change machine anywhere the same thing happens. it would have to be emptied at the end of everyday just like a till, and all that money in one place just goes along with the risk of theft.

But there's thousands of euros in the WIT Card machines with students topping up every second. Is that not more risky than having a change machine?

It has its few advantages like not having to carry cash but can be a major inconvenience sometimes. One of my lecturers refuses to use his card!:D I think that the whole issue of "discounts" on stuff is ridiculous, it's only an excuse to keep the prices higher for using cash! You wouldn't see that with any shops in town if you used your laser/credit card instead of cash! If people have to constantly get change from bank/dome/canteen, they are eventually going to refuse to give change because they will run out of it! I think that the card should only be used to identify you, borrow books from the library and access some restricted rooms.

MitchKoobski · 21-12-2009 11:52pm

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Incorrect. There only needs to be one person on the tills. Theft is prevented by the use of cameras and staff searches at the end of the day.

who's going to carry out the staff searches? Who's the other person that will go back over the cameras everyday?
theyll have to hire a second person.
a second person they need for security and handling cash.

Its not that they'll be stealing from the tills, its that they will count the money wrong at the end of the day or pocket even the smallest bit of change without the camera seeing.

Campus Services have already said there has to be two people behind the counter.It was discussed in the first class rep council this past semester i believe.

AdMMM · 22-12-2009 12:17am

They've almost got it right with the WIT card. The most compelling argument for the WIT card is convenience. However, it's also this area that it often falls down in. Instead of eliminating queues, it only serves to move them as anyone who has to navigate through the wall of people in the business building between 12 and 1.

Progress has been made with the introduction of mobile top-ups and the heavy promotion of the other methods of topping up (i.e. ATM and Internet) but it will take a few years for any affect to be seen as old habits die hard and most current students will carry on using the same method to top up as long as they're in the college.

WIT really is miles ahead of every other college when it comes to the features and diversity of its student ID card. The eventual goal is for One Card Solutions to roll out their cards to institutions around the country and offer a "universal" card that can be used in all participating colleges (i.e. I could use my WIT Card to buy things in UCC for example).

Campus Services have already said there has to be two people behind the counter.It was discussed in the first class rep council this past semester i believe.

I think it would be naive to take this claim for granted. All the tills in the college are automated and all staff have their own ID so that transactions can be attributed to them. Reports can be run on the spot and any discrepancies in the figures investigated immediately.

sashafierce · 22-12-2009 12:43am

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wits2 · 22-12-2009 1:19pm

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lol "some people" ... look, in fairness you are the one complaining about a very good service wit provides just because you didnt have 60c change, seriously, its lazyness on your behalf because instead of tryin to go and get change, ask somebody / go somewhere you didnt, instead you decided to rant about it on this.. them places arent over loaded with student looking for change because most students are more prepared.
You then decided to talk about the "snobby lectures" which you are completly wrong about, whats next??
So anyway.. why didnt you run over to SU, they have a little stationary shop there and they take cash !!

sashafierce · 22-12-2009 2:28pm

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imported_guy · 22-12-2009 9:23pm

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theres a few class reps on here, and this is a pretty good idea tbh, should be bought up at their meetings, but college is on a tight budget just like yourself and these ideas mean getting new (potentially expensive) machines.

sashafierce · 22-12-2009 9:26pm

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imported_guy · 22-12-2009 9:35pm

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tbh i dont have a high opinion on our current student union leaders and same with alot of the reps, when they had the training in new ross i heard it ended up in a big piss up etc, very very productive...lol, and these are the people you should really be talking to and are meant to be solving our problems (i personally have bought up issues to some reps im not a rep but i told them about the parking lights near the gym didnt work etc, they still arent fixed AFAIK, and same with near the gallery now they are broken as well) so i mean i understand where your comming from but this is WIT, last year we had to pay for our own paper so we can make new drawings etc for our course work, the photo copying/printing is way to expensive (its free in alot of colleges)

your lucky its your last year some of us have to deal with it for another while.

sashafierce · 22-12-2009 9:49pm

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MitchKoobski · 23-12-2009 6:39pm

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tbh i dont have a high opinion on our current student union leaders and same with alot of the reps, when they had the training in new ross i heard it ended up in a big piss up etc, very very productive...lol, and these are the people you should really be talking to and are meant to be solving our problems (i personally have bought up issues to some reps im not a rep but i told them about the parking lights near the gym didnt work etc, they still arent fixed AFAIK, and same with near the gallery now they are broken as well) so i mean i understand where your comming from but this is WIT, last year we had to pay for our own paper so we can make new drawings etc for our course work, the photo copying/printing is way to expensive (its free in alot of colleges) your lucky its your last year some of us have to deal with it for another while.

training was productive, we didnt start drinking until 5!

you cant blame the reps and the council for not solving every little problem thats brought to them in fairness. its 50/50.
for every small thing someone wants fixed, it puts back progress on a bigger problem.

as regards to a change machine, as i said before this has been brought up and suggested by reps and currently being looked into. its the only alternative campus services would agree to consider.

miss enzo · 09-01-2010 5:25pm

the thing that wrecks my head about the WIT card is that those of us doing adult education have to pay €15 for a card... what a rip!!! Im paying like €4k for a course and they wont even give me a stinking card!!! its a disgrace!

ive refused to buy one... and ive sat 3 sets of exmas and never once been pulled up on not having one... which i find weird since in UL if u didnt have a card out for your exams you were sent to the admin office to get a letter to say you are who you say you are.

sashafierce · 09-01-2010 5:30pm

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holla! · 13-01-2010 3:19pm

Only one WIT Card machine at the well??? = madness!

stick-dan · 13-01-2010 4:56pm

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Only one WIT Card machine at the well??? = madness!

so top up online jeeze:rolleyes:

Minto · 13-01-2010 5:55pm

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so top up online jeeze:rolleyes:

Cos when you're going to lunch with your friends and are in a rush, you all have time to get to a computer to top up online! And before you say it, the top up computer in the Gallery has never been working anytime I went to use it! Not having a go at ya Dan, just think you weren't looking at the whole picture!

Sully · 13-01-2010 6:45pm

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Cos when you're going to lunch with your friends and are in a rush, you all have time to get to a computer to top up online! And before you say it, the top up computer in the Gallery has never been working anytime I went to use it! Not having a go at ya Dan, just think you weren't looking at the whole picture!

Has a point there

stick-dan · 14-01-2010 12:21am

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Cos when you're going to lunch with your friends and are in a rush, you all have time to get to a computer to top up online! And before you say it, the top up computer in the Gallery has never been working anytime I went to use it! Not having a go at ya Dan, just think you weren't looking at the whole picture!

are you all so lazy as to not top up at the start of the week or even the night before, it's college now boys, your mammy wont do everything for ya.

Sully · 14-01-2010 12:22am

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are you all so lazy as to not top up at the start of the week or even the night before, it's college now boys, your mammy wont do everything for ya.

She should tho.

sashafierce · 14-01-2010 12:32am

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Minto · 14-01-2010 1:27pm

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are you all so lazy as to not top up at the start of the week or even the night before, it's college now boys, your mammy wont do everything for ya.

Maybe we are different, but I prefer to have my money in a way I can spend it wherever I like i.e. not on my WITcard, so I only top up when I am going to spend it. Judging by the queues between classes and especially at one o clock in the Well, most of WIT do likewise!

Sully · 14-01-2010 1:42pm

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Maybe we are different, but I prefer to have my money in a way I can spend it wherever I like i.e. not on my WITcard, so I only top up when I am going to spend it. Judging by the queues between classes and especially at one o clock in the Well, most of WIT do likewise!

If we could withdraw money from the card - then I would have no problem putting a bit of money on at the start of the week. But there are times when I am short of cash and its all on my WITCard, so I tend to put smaller amounts in when needed. Even if it is a pain!

bigjigwig77 · 14-01-2010 3:50pm

I do the same.

But it is an absolute pain when there's money on the card and none in your wallet!

stick-dan · 14-01-2010 4:31pm

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ah to be fair the money doesnt expire so if you have put on too much you can use it next week thats not even an argument.

Minto put 20 quid on a monday see how long its lasting you should know what you are buying like. I'm sure in four years in the college you have a pattern of where you get food and a rough approximate guess of the cost.

steven22 · 14-01-2010 10:56pm

Not many know this, but the top up machine in the library accepts smaller coins, i dont think it accepts copper or maybe not 10c but definately the rest.

Also find the Q aint too bad in the library.

Sasha please stop complaining, we have all been in sh*tty inconveniant situations like you with your 60c, just learn from it and be better prepared the next time. I don't think you need to complain and call for an overhaul of an otherwise excellent system. Also you can top up your WIT card via your mobile, something called mobiload

I love my WIT card

AdMMM · 18-01-2010 11:41pm

Is it just my imagination, or has a topup machine disappeared from the Well?

Sully · 19-01-2010 1:35am

AdMMM wrote: »

Is it just my imagination, or has a topup machine disappeared from the Well?

Indeed it has. I assume it will return soon - probably just faulty?

bigjigwig77 · 20-01-2010 9:46pm

steven22 wrote: »

Not many know this, but the top up machine in the library accepts smaller coins, i dont think it accepts copper or maybe not 10c but definately the rest.

Also find the Q aint too bad in the library.

Thanks for the tip! Didn't even know there was a top up machine in the library.

Sully · 09-02-2010 12:23pm

Just a heads up. If your WITCard is not working for the library and WITCard Office are looking for you to buy a new one then you should go into the WITSU office and speak to a sabbatical officer. They will be able to get a replacement card for you at no extra cost.

sashafierce · 09-02-2010 12:59pm

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