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Celebrating the demise of cruel stag hunting
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Personally, I don't think that there is any point debating this topic. You will always have stereotypical views of people as I read earlier, calling people who shoot deer barbaric and culshies.
I think that people usually who do so call such things barbaric and stupid never really understand what occurs. In most situations, first of all deer are shot. Yes it is a sport and yes it is a source of enjoyment for others. Have any of the people who condemn it been up any of the mountains in the Midlands lately anyway. You have deer at the moment in peoples gardens, farmland and roadways. Without them being culled they would run riot, damage people's livelihoods and even put public safety in danger with regard to road accidents. So how do people propose to control them when numbers grow to uncontrollable numbers, deer condoms, abortion of calves etc? I suppose might create a few jobs
Not only that but if someone has not attended a stalk how can one judge. When stalking occurs the deer dies instantly, in a more humane manner than it does in a slaughter house. More so what is wrong with hunting them for meat. Just because something doesn't come from Tescos doesn't necessarily mean it is wrong. This concept maybe alien to someone livnig in a city, but not to everyone. No one can judge.
As with regard to someone saying it damages the environment, well, the manufacture of an Ipod is more harmful to the environment, in production and power than stag hunting. Not saying ban that, just saying everyone contributes, so why stop something that is helping the environment maintain equilibrium.
Also no one recognises how well monitored and regulated it is in this country. We actually do one thing right. In that instant when someone abuses their right to hunt, they suffer the consequences.
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Personally, I don't think that there is any point debating this topic. You will always have stereotypical views of people as I read earlier, calling people who shoot deer barbaric and culshies.
I think that people usually who do so call such things barbaric and stupid never really understand what occurs. In most situations, first of all deer are shot. Yes it is a sport and yes it is a source of enjoyment for others. Have any of the people who condemn it been up any of the mountains in the Midlands lately anyway. You have deer at the moment in peoples gardens, farmland and roadways. Without them being culled they would run riot, damage people's livelihoods and even put public safety in danger with regard to road accidents. So how do people propose to control them when numbers grow to uncontrollable numbers, deer condoms, abortion of calves etc? I suppose might create a few jobs
Not only that but if someone has not attended a stalk how can one judge. When stalking occurs the deer dies instantly, in a more humane manner than it does in a slaughter house. More so what is wrong with hunting them for meat. Just because something doesn't come from Tescos doesn't necessarily mean it is wrong. This concept maybe alien to someone livnig in a city, but not to everyone. No one can judge.
As with regard to someone saying it damages the environment, well, the manufacture of an Ipod is more harmful to the environment, in production and power than stag hunting. Not saying ban that, just saying everyone contributes, so why stop something that is helping the environment maintain equilibrium.
Also no one recognises how well monitored and regulated it is in this country. We actually do one thing right. In that instant when someone abuses their right to hunt, they suffer the consequences.
My two cents.
You seem to be talking about deer stalking, as opposed to stag hunting , which is the subject of this thread.0 -
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Still not on staghunting
but to respond re foxes - I for one am out in the country, and I'll tell you that we are overrun with rats thanks to the near elimination of foxes in this area. Foxes mainly hunt rats, and if they take the odd lamb (it would have to be a tiny one), well that's a blow for the farmer, but then the lamb is hardly destined for a pretty end.
My experience of the hunt where I live is having a pack of hounds tearing uncontrolled through my garden twice last year, terrorising my pets and child. There is nothing you can do to stop them. There are plenty of farmers who don't want hunts on their land, they do a huge amount of damage.0 -
Still not on staghunting but to respond re foxes - I for one am out in the country, and I'll tell you that we are overrun with rats thanks to the near elimination of foxes in this area. Foxes mainly hunt rats, and if they take the odd lamb (it would have to be a tiny one), well that's a blow for the farmer, but then the lamb is hardly destined for a pretty end.
My experience of the hunt where I live is having a pack of hounds tearing uncontrolled through my garden twice last year, terrorising my pets and child. There is nothing you can do to stop them. There are plenty of farmers who don't want hunts on their land, they do a huge amount of damage.
I'd love to see an area in the british isles where foxes have been nearly eliminated. I have lived in areas where there have been plenty of foxes and the rat population was also in healthy numbers.
Foxes will take almost anything for food, which includes ducks, chickens, an occasional lamb, dog food, pig feed, cattle feed, and almost any other animal feed etc etc. I've never known rats to be top choice for foxes, and certainly never known foxes to be instrumental in keeping the rat population down.0 -
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