Who's running? (its that self indulgent time of the year)

bingbing

So which self obsessed morons are gearing up to run for the next SU/TN/CSC/PHIST/General-College-Moronic hack positions next semester?

They waist huge chunks of our money in public, so I guess they're going to have to get use to public scrutinization.

To anyone who says it's too early in the year for this thread, wake up. It's not. These people have been masturbating their egos getting ready for this since first arriving in college. They're about ready to pop and will have started telling people.

I've got few names. Do you?

EGaffney

bingbing wrote: »

(its that self indulgent time of the year)

No it's not, it's not even "the year" yet!

bingbing

Maybe next year will be "the year"! Maybe we won't have useless people whining left right and centre and spending all my money on hoodies and scarfs.

Fo Real

bingbing wrote: »

Maybe we won't have useless people whining left right and centre and spending all my money on hoodies and scarfs.

Oh the irony

seacláid-te

I'd love to see your timetable bingbing!

Brian

Google gets my vote

bingbing

bingbing wrote: »

So which self obsessed morons are gearing up to run for the next SU/TN/CSC/PHIST/General-College-Moronic hack positions next semester?

They waist huge chunks of our money in public, so I guess they're going to have to get use to public scrutinization.

To anyone who says it's too early in the year for this thread, wake up. It's not. These people have been masturbating their egos getting ready for this since first arriving in college. They're about ready to pop and will have started telling people.

I've got few names. Do you?

Hack.

ilovemybrick

bingbing wrote: »

So which self obsessed morons are gearing up to run for the next SU/TN/CSC/PHIST/General-College-Moronic hack positions next semester?

TN isnt an election.

bingbing wrote: »

They waist huge chunks of our money in public, so I guess they're going to have to get use to public scrutinization.

What do they waste? They spend their own money. Also they waist it???

bingbing wrote: »

I've got few names. Do you?

You start by decrying the hacks, then you admit (tacitly) that you are essentially one.

Awayindahils

ilovemybrick wrote: »

TN isnt an election.


What do they waste? They spend their own money. Also they waist it???



You start by decrying the hacks, then you admit (tacitly) that you are essentially one.

Thought you were through with Trintiy?

As for names (and I am so ashamed to admit this) but for some reason I still know at least half a dozen. Mainly due to facebook and the rampant self promotion.

EGaffney

Actually, hilariously, I think I know some too. That's pretty ridiculous.

dan719

I thought everyone knew at this stage who was running, except for a few maybes. Does this mean I am a hack now?:eek:

cantankerous

I think it does. If you know more than a handful of hacks you are spending too much time amongst them (it's contagious you know).

Personally i can't wait to see the back of Mick the Dick, Rob the Knob, Cooke the Crook, O'Broin the Moan and Cashman the...... eh.... Brash Man .

:mad:

gearoidof

I think conan's doing quite a good job so far this year.
Bit too much banner bashing alright, but he IS taking on the beast that is ducac.

Boston

Awayindahils wrote: »

Thought you were through with Trintiy?

As for names (and I am so ashamed to admit this) but for some reason I still know at least half a dozen. Mainly due to facebook and the rampant self promotion.

You can take the boy out of trinity but you can never take his scooorft

dan719 wrote: »

I thought everyone knew at this stage who was running, except for a few maybes. Does this mean I am a hack now?:eek:

You sir are a hack.

I of course will be doing my yearly routine of summing up the candidates for the patrons of this forum.

Denerick

bingbing wrote: »

So which self obsessed morons are gearing up to run for the next SU/TN/CSC/PHIST/General-College-Moronic hack positions next semester?

They waist huge chunks of our money in public, so I guess they're going to have to get use to public scrutinization.

To anyone who says it's too early in the year for this thread, wake up. It's not. These people have been masturbating their egos getting ready for this since first arriving in college. They're about ready to pop and will have started telling people.

I've got few names. Do you?

Thank you! The SU and all the societies are shameless popularity contests, created for the sole purpose of burning money and buffering otherwise weak CVs. They are populated by people with little wit, not much intelligence, but craftiness in abundance. They are cynical institutions which make me sick. The SU says that 'they represent me' but in reality all they do is make me cringe, wasting time and energy on worthless causes which are not representative of the freethinking body in the student population. It should move away from pathetic angst ridden adolescent 'activism' and move towards merely representing us in a boring, legal capacity. That is all I want from my SU, and nothing more.

Ordinary students need to learn to tell these hacks to **** off, they wreck everyone's head and only really represent 1 or 2% of the student body.

Aoibheann

dan719 wrote: »

I thought everyone knew at this stage who was running, except for a few maybes. Does this mean I am a hack now?:eek:

Yup, 'fraid so. :pac:

In fairness, most of them are poorly kept "secrets" at best at this point!

lou91

bingbing wrote: »

So which self obsessed morons are gearing up to run for the next SU/TN/CSC/PHIST/General-College-Moronic hack positions next semester?

They waist huge chunks of our money in public, so I guess they're going to have to get use to public scrutinization.

To anyone who says it's too early in the year for this thread, wake up. It's not. These people have been masturbating their egos getting ready for this since first arriving in college. They're about ready to pop and will have started telling people.

I've got few names. Do you?

By "public scrutinization" do you mean internet trolls posting the same generic complaints about them that aren't even true?

cantankerous wrote: »

I think it does. If you know more than a handful of hacks you are spending too much time amongst them (it's contagious you know).

Personally i can't wait to see the back of Mick the Dick, Rob the Knob, Cooke the Crook, O'Broin the Moan and Cashman the...... eh.... Brash Man .

:mad:

OMG, LOL!
Hate to nitpick on such a stupid post but O'Broin doesn't actually rhyme with moan.

Denerick wrote: »

Thank you! The SU and all the societies are shameless popularity contests, created for the sole purpose of burning money and buffering otherwise weak CVs. They are populated by people with little wit, not much intelligence, but craftiness in abundance. They are cynical institutions which make me sick. The SU says that 'they represent me' but in reality all they do is make me cringe, wasting time and energy on worthless causes which are not representative of the freethinking body in the student population. It should move away from pathetic angst ridden adolescent 'activism' and move towards merely representing us in a boring, legal capacity. That is all I want from my SU, and nothing more.

Ordinary students need to learn to tell these hacks to **** off, they wreck everyone's head and only really represent 1 or 2% of the student body.

FFS, how the hell can you say these people have no wit or intelligence? What are you basing that on?
I love when people say it's like a popularity contest. Yeah, if you can't think of any valid complaints, why not hate them because they have friends in college? How dare they?!
Worthless cases? Hmm... The SU is the number one reason why I won't be paying college fees. I'm not going to bother to defend this claim, but it's 100% true. I'm also glad that the college now has a 24 hour study space. If I was a girl I'm sure I'd welcome reminders to take the pill.

I'm not entirely unbiased here but I'd much rather be one of the people who make the most of their experience at college than the people who bitch about them on the internet.

ALincoln

what is the "phist"?

Brian

It is a portmanteau of Phil and Hist, TCD's two most famous societies.

Denerick

RandomUserName! wrote: »

FFS, how the hell can you say these people have no wit or intelligence? What are you basing that on?

General annoyance with their pathetic electioneering?

I love when people say it's like a popularity contest. Yeah, if you can't think of any valid complaints, why not hate them because they have friends in college? How dare they?!

The implicit logical flaw there is that in your own head you seem to think you've debunked the idea that its a personality contest, and therefore see it as an invalid complaint. I'll let you muse over that for a while.

Worthless cases? Hmm... The SU is the number one reason why I won't be paying college fees. I'm not going to bother to defend this claim, but it's 100% true. I'm also glad that the college now has a 24 hour study space. If I was a girl I'm sure I'd welcome reminders to take the pill.

Lol!!! You really think the reason we don't have to pay fee's is because of the SU? We have the Green party to thank mainly, their commitment to education is what ensured fee's wouldn't be introduced. If the public sector unions, the most powerful single political body in this country outside of the fianna fáil party was unable to prevent the government cutting their wages, what on Gods green earth makes you think a couple of thousand anarchist flag waving children in front of Leinster house made any difference?

24 hour study space - This was a fair enough battle for the SU to fight, but a rare case. And as for the pill reminder, I only hope the SU starts campaigning to remind me to wipe my arse after using the toilet.

I'm not entirely unbiased here but I'd much rather be one of the people who make the most of their experience at college than the people who bitch about them on the internet.

Ooooooooh!. Tight one. I make the most out of my college experience by doing what I'm meant to ****ing do - get my degree. Everything else is secondary, including boozy nights out in town. If progressing in the student union and the upper echelons of the societies is what makes university so memorable for you, then that only speaks volumes about your inner meglomania.

ALincoln

Baza210 wrote: »

It is a portmanteau of Phil and Hist, TCD's two most famous societies.

of course, silly of me to have missed that

I'm actually a member of both, will be v interested to see who runs for positions in each! any speculation yet?

Denerick

ALincoln wrote: »

of course, silly of me to have missed that

I'm actually a member of both, will be v interested to see who runs for positions in each! any speculation yet?

Well I'm sure whomever wins will have a very impressive addition to their CV

ALincoln

bingbing wrote: »

So which self obsessed morons are gearing up to run for the next SU/TN/CSC/PHIST/General-College-Moronic hack positions next semester?

They waist huge chunks of our money in public, so I guess they're going to have to get use to public scrutinization.

To anyone who says it's too early in the year for this thread, wake up. It's not. These people have been masturbating their egos getting ready for this since first arriving in college. They're about ready to pop and will have started telling people.

I've got few names. Do you?

want to put your money where your mouth is? particularly interested in hearing about the hist and phil.

lou91

Denerick wrote: »

General annoyance with their pathetic electioneering?



The implicit logical flaw there is that in your own head you seem to think you've debunked the idea that its a personality contest, and therefore see it as an invalid complaint. I'll let you muse over that for a while.



Lol!!! You really think the reason we don't have to pay fee's is because of the SU? We have the Green party to thank mainly, their commitment to education is what ensured fee's wouldn't be introduced. If the public sector unions, the most powerful single political body in this country outside of the fianna fáil party was unable to prevent the government cutting their wages, what on Gods green earth makes you think a couple of thousand anarchist flag waving children in front of Leinster house made any difference?



24 hour study space - This was a fair enough battle for the SU to fight, but a rare case. And as for the pill reminder, I only hope the SU starts campaigning to remind me to wipe my arse after using the toilet.




Ooooooooh!. Tight one. I make the most out of my college experience by doing what I'm meant to ****ing do - get my degree. Everything else is secondary, including boozy nights out in town. If progressing in the student union and the upper echelons of the societies is what makes university so memorable for you, then that only speaks volumes about your inner meglomania.

It's not a personality contest. Do you really believe that people voting in any election don't take personality into account just a little bit? It's pretty much inevitable, and I don't think it's a bad thing if candidates are sociable and try to know as many people as possible.


Wasn't talking about the protest, moreso the meetings with the Greens that persuaded some of them to actually change their minds. I'm sure you'll think it's incredibly naive, but I actually do believe they had that much influence.



Wasn't being serious about the pill thing. I'll admit that campaign is a little bit stupid.

shay_562

RandomUserName! wrote:

I'm not entirely unbiased here but I'd much rather be one of the people who make the most of their experience at college than the people who bitch about them on the internet.

Word. Bitch about them if they mess up. Giving out about everyone who runs for anything ever is just stupid. Lots of people make the college better by giving up ****loads of their own free time for less benefit than they put into it - if it were all about CV-packing, the summers that the Phil/Hist/SU/TN people put into getting the year's work ready could be better spent in internships; the early mornings and late nights and time around lectures could be spent attending employer events, getting good grades (which plenty of employers look for as much as or more than college involvement), researching the hell out of every graduate opportunity and generally being a better student. Most extra-curricular life is for its own sake, shocking though it may be for some to believe that people might like being a part of societies or the SU for their own non-CV-or-ego-related reasons.

Denerick wrote:

Lol!!! You really think the reason we don't have to pay fee's is because of the SU? We have the Green party to thank mainly, their commitment to education is what ensured fee's wouldn't be introduced.

The Young Green's rep on the GP NEC, and thus one of the people who most informed their view on fees in particular, is one of the biggest 'hacks' in college. Chair of multiple societies over the past two years, Ethical and Environmental Trading Officer of the SU, Hist committee...from small acorn hacks do mighty oak hacks grow. Plus, even aside from that, whatever one's stance on fees you can't argue that the SU (and other SUs across the country) did a good job of raising awareness of it as a public issue.

ALincoln wrote:

I'm actually a member of both, will be v interested to see who runs for positions in each! any speculation yet?

Rules of both societies prevent candidates from (openly) canvassing for votes, and that can be used against them if others canvass on their behalf. Thus, there's really very little open speculation until the nominations are officially announced (probably late March/early April, given the new timetable). I know a few names, but genuinely can't share them as it could land the people in question in ****.

d93c2inhxfok4y

Denerick wrote: »

Well I'm sure whomever wins will have a very impressive addition to their CV

As long as people run for positions like this for the job's sake over anything else, I don't see what's wrong with being happy that it's going on your CV. Hollow CV padding is one thing, but being proud in putting something you worked hard for on your CV is another thing entirely. If someone spent hours getting involved in the Hist/whatever for years, worked hard to make the society better, and ended up as chair/whatever the title is, then power to them putting it on their CV.

Awayindahils

*Looks up at the rest of the thread*

Good Luck Jonathon.

Boston wrote: »

I of course will be doing my yearly routine of summing up the candidates for the patrons of this forum.

And I wont have to get pissed off/explain to the EC what the hell was going on/deny having any knowledge of who you are.

Change is good.

dan719

shay_562 wrote: »

Word. Bitch about them if they mess up. Giving out about everyone who runs for anything ever is just stupid. Lots of people make the college better by giving up ****loads of their own free time for less benefit than they put into it - if it were all about CV-packing, the summers that the Phil/Hist/SU/TN people put into getting the year's work ready could be better spent in internships; the early mornings and late nights and time around lectures could be spent attending employer events, getting good grades (which plenty of employers look for as much as or more than college involvement), researching the hell out of every graduate opportunity and generally being a better student. Most extra-curricular life is for its own sake, shocking though it may be for some to believe that people might like being a part of societies or the SU for their own non-CV-or-ego-related reasons.



The Young Green's rep on the GP NEC, and thus one of the people who most informed their view on fees in particular, is one of the biggest 'hacks' in college. Chair of multiple societies over the past two years, Ethical and Environmental Trading Officer of the SU, Hist committee...from small acorn hacks do mighty oak hacks grow. Plus, even aside from that, whatever one's stance on fees you can't argue that the SU (and other SUs across the country) did a good job of raising awareness of it as a public issue.



Rules of both societies prevent candidates from (openly) canvassing for votes, and that can be used against them if others canvass on their behalf. Thus, there's really very little open speculation until the nominations are officially announced (probably late March/early April, given the new timetable). I know a few names, but genuinely can't share them as it could land the people in question in ****.

This.

And I am definately showing Barra this post.:p I think he will particularly like the phrase 'mighty oak hacks'.

Awayindahils

shay_562 wrote: »

Word. Bitch about them if they mess up. Giving out about everyone who runs for anything ever is just stupid. Lots of people make the college better by giving up ****loads of their own free time for less benefit than they put into it - if it were all about CV-packing, the summers that the Phil/Hist/SU/TN people put into getting the year's work ready could be better spent in internships; the early mornings and late nights and time around lectures could be spent attending employer events, getting good grades (which plenty of employers look for as much as or more than college involvement), researching the hell out of every graduate opportunity and generally being a better student. Most extra-curricular life is for its own sake, shocking though it may be for some to believe that people might like being a part of societies or the SU for their own non-CV-or-ego-related reasons.



The Young Green's rep on the GP NEC, and thus one of the people who most informed their view on fees in particular, is one of the biggest 'hacks' in college. Chair of multiple societies over the past two years, Ethical and Environmental Trading Officer of the SU, Hist committee...from small acorn hacks do mighty oak hacks grow. Plus, even aside from that, whatever one's stance on fees you can't argue that the SU (and other SUs across the country) did a good job of raising awareness of it as a public issue.



Rules of both societies prevent candidates from (openly) canvassing for votes, and that can be used against them if others canvass on their behalf. Thus, there's really very little open speculation until the nominations are officially announced (probably late March/early April, given the new timetable). I know a few names, but genuinely can't share them as it could land the people in question in ****.

Intially thought that this post was by one the crazies and then saw it was by you...*cough* and it still seems crazy*cough* Going to phone you.

The latter bits seem ok...but most hacks get good grades, its what makes them so annoying. (SU sort of bucks this trend but in general, those who achieve most in extra curriculars achieve most in college, and well achieve most in life)

EGaffney

Kiera Flaky Certificate wrote: »

As long as people run for positions like this for the job's sake over anything else, I don't see what's wrong with being happy that it's going on your CV. Hollow CV padding is one thing, but being proud in putting something you worked hard for on your CV is another thing entirely. If someone spent hours getting involved in the Hist/whatever for years, worked hard to make the society better, and ended up as chair/whatever the title is, then power to them putting it on their CV.

Big assumption there in the post that was originally quoted. I don't have my time in the Phil on my CV.

I know people who started getting job offers once they removed "running a large society" from their CVs and put more important things on it.

Suffice it to say that the self-interest in running a society, if it exists, is status-based rather than pecuniary.

Denerick

Awayindahils wrote: »

Intially thought that this post was by one the crazies and then saw it was by you...*cough* and it still seems crazy*cough* Going to phone you.

The latter bits seem ok...but most hacks get good grades, its what makes them so annoying. (SU sort of bucks this trend but in general, those who achieve most in extra curriculars achieve most in college, and well achieve most in life)

They will achieve the same as most of the high skilled denizens of this island - competant but incapable of originality. The irish as a race of people are totally unfit to lead in the modern innovation economy.

shay_562

dan719 wrote:

And I am definately showing Barra this post. I think he will particularly like the phrase 'mighty oak hacks'.

Be my guest - I think he'll like the idea of being a minor internet celebrity. It'll be good training for when he slags off someone's ma in the Dáil and ends up as YouTube fodder.

Awayindahils wrote:

Intially thought that this post was by one the crazies and then saw it was by you...*cough* and it still seems crazy*cough*

I don't think it's especially crazy. And while many of the uberhacks are just ridiculously competent people who get firsts, there are plenty more people who do get less out of their course than they otherwise would for the sake of the other, more enjoyable parts of college life. Not saying that they should have praise heaped upon them and statues erected in Front Square, just that decrying everyone who gets involved with everything ever seems a tad infantile.

Denerick wrote:

They will achieve the same as most of the high skilled denizens of this island - competant but incapable of originality. The irish as a race of people are totally unfit to lead in the modern innovation economy.

So now the problem isn't hacks, it's the entire nation of Ireland and everyone in it? Whatever. Jog on, you racist twatwaffle.

Denerick

So now the problem isn't hacks, it's the entire nation of Ireland and everyone in it? Whatever. Jog on, you racist twatwaffle.

The problem is the average young Irish persons conception of culture. As long as Tommy Tiernan and John Watters are the cream of our 'intelligentsia' I think we'll be resigned to remaining a second rate nation filled with imaginationless hacks, and a populace who haven't read a book since their leaving cert.

And also, I'm a self hating paddy. Not some Brit. I'm allowed to despise the Irish people and everything they stand for. It would be unpatriotic to do otherwise! (I muse here over Yeats and Patrick Kavangh and other great Irishmen of the past, and how they struggled to live in a country who's highest ambition was to 'fumble in their greasy till')

EDIT: It goes back to the 'gombeen man' really. I'm far from the first Irishman to hold these views about our nation at large.

Boston

How very typical.

Denerick

Boston wrote: »

How very typical.

Thanks Boston. I love you too.

SligoBrewer

Denerick wrote: »

Lol!!! You really think the reason we don't have to pay fee's is because of the SU? We have the Green party to thank mainly, their commitment to education is what ensured fee's wouldn't be introduced. .

Lolz. The Green Party, as if they'd ever do anything except lick the balls off Fianna Fáil.

bright

SligoBrewer wrote: »

Lolz. The Green Party, as if they'd ever do anything except lick the balls off Fianna Fáil.

Well, that was enlightening. :rolleyes:

SligoBrewer

bright wrote: »

Well, that was enlightening. :rolleyes:

Highly, hence why I posted it.

The idea suggested by Denerick that the free fees was won by the Green Party and not by the various SU's across the country is pathetic, taking the credit away for what was in the majority a fantastic campaign because of what seems to be personal slants against people on the various representative committees, and instead shoving it on party who have shown themselves to be biggest shams/frauds that ever sat in Government.

Sorry for going a bit OT towards the end.

Denerick

SligoBrewer wrote: »

Highly, hence why I posted it.

The idea suggested by Denerick that the free fees was won by the Green Party and not by the various SU's across the country is pathetic, taking the credit away for what was in the majority a fantastic campaign because of what seems to be personal slants against people on the various representative committees, and instead shoving it on party who have shown themselves to be biggest shams/frauds that ever sat in Government.

Sorry for going a bit OT towards the end.

Do you read newspapers? The reason that fee's were not reintroduced was because the Greens in effect offered an ultimatum to the government on education issues. As pretty and as hypocritical as the SU campaign was, it was not in any way instrumental in preventing the reintroduction of fee's. As I said before, the clamour created by students was incomparable to the damage a public sector strike causes; our country has and is going through remarkable times, and this government has managed to cut public sector wages beyond all international comparisons (Take for example Britain, who has a bigger debt per GDP ratio than us, who agreed to cap pay rises at 1%)

I know its fashionable amongst the student intelligentsia to bash everything in power indiscriminately, but do try to exercise your critical faculties a bit more.

SligoBrewer

Denerick wrote: »

Do you read newspapers?

Yes.

Denerick wrote: »

The reason that fee's were not reintroduced was because the Greens in effect offered an ultimatum to the government on education issues. As pretty and as hypocritical as the SU campaign was, it was not in any way instrumental in preventing the reintroduction of fee's.

You saw this.

I read this.

Then action like this.

Led to Greens/FF saving face like this.

Even though we still have this.

Denerick wrote: »

As I said before, the clamour created by students was incomparable to the damage a public sector strike causes; our country has and is going through remarkable times, and this government has managed to cut public sector wages beyond all international comparisons (Take for example Britain, who has a bigger debt per GDP ratio than us, who agreed to cap pay rises at 1%)

Number of public servants and their ability to disrupt day to business in Ireland > Number of students and their ability to disrupt day to day business.

Denerick wrote: »

I know its fashionable amongst the student intelligentsia to bash everything in power indiscriminately, but do try to exercise your critical faculties a bit more.

I have nothing wrong with power or people who win elections, and indeed I do like to give praise where it's due, and criticise where it's warranted, exercising my critical faculties well in the process.

P.S. Your beautiful and fantastic vocabulary was undone by your incorrect use of an apostrophe. Well done.

Denerick

You're following a self serving narrative. Anyone can do what you did, and just switch the filler words around. It boils down to interpretation at the end of the day, and you're not convincing anyone that students on strike achieve anything of significance, save a lie in for lecturers.

I'm sorry if my vocabulary offends you, oh great guardian of the English language.

SligoBrewer

Denerick wrote: »

You're following a self serving narrative. Anyone can do what you did, and just switch the filler words around. It boils down to interpretation at the end of the day, and you're not convincing anyone that students on strike achieve anything of significance, save a lie in for lecturers.

I'm sorry if my vocabulary offends you, oh great guardian of the English language.

The fact the Ryan even considered third level fees viable shows that the Green Party has as much conviction in an argument as you do and it was the organisation and lobbying of the students that changed their minds. Do you not think that if the unions rolled over the Fianna Fáil/Green Party campaign would have rolled on? Who else was fighting fees consistently over the past year or so? Labour and the Socialists? We all know that Fianna Fáil couldn't give two hoots about alternative views.

I will acknowledge that the Greens did indeed ultimately contribute to the continuation of tuition fees being paid for by the NDP, but not after they flirted to see how far away from their "values" they could stray and hence how it was the unions who saved our bacon so to speak.

Denerick

SligoBrewer wrote: »

The fact the Ryan even considered third level fees viable shows that the Green Party has as much conviction in an argument as you do and it was the organisation and lobbying of the students that changed their minds. Do you not think that if the unions rolled over the Fianna Fáil/Green Party campaign would have rolled on? Who else was fighting fees consistently over the past year or so? Labour and the Socialists? We all know that Fianna Fáil couldn't give two hoots about alternative views.

I will acknowledge that the Greens did indeed ultimately contribute to the continuation of tuition fees being paid for by the NDP, but not after they flirted to see how far away from their "values" they could stray and hence how it was the unions who saved our bacon so to speak.

Can you not see that you believe that because you want to believe that? In stark, realpolitick terms, why would the government care about a constituency who don't turn out to vote and don't do any meaningful economic damage when they strike? Cutting fees would have been an easy victory for the government, causing minimal electoral damage. The only reason it wasn't introduced was because the green party made a pledge to maintain education funding. There is no other logical answer. Why would the students change the minds of the Green party? Of course political parties will throw out political kites to test the air - this is exactly what Ryan did. I'm bored of this discussion so unless you actually introduce something new I'll not bother responding.

RexMundi

Denerick wrote: »

Why would the students change the minds of the Green party? Of course political parties will throw out political kites to test the air - this is exactly what Ryan did. I'm bored of this discussion so unless you actually introduce something new I'll not bother responding.

Perhaps because Greens are the one political party that benefit greatly from the student vote...

Perhaps because at least on ex-TCD SU president is still an active member of their party...

EGaffney

RexMundi wrote: »

Perhaps because at least on ex-TCD SU president is still an active member of their party...

I'd be very impressed if he were, given that my understanding is that he's not in the country.

SligoBrewer

RexMundi wrote: »

Perhaps because Greens are the one political party that benefited greatly from the student vote...

FYP

gearoidof

All ex-TCD SU presidents are out of the country?

EGaffney

gearoidof wrote: »

All ex-TCD SU presidents are out of the country?

Not all ex-TCD SU presidents were Green Party activists. Either way, it's a pretty small sample size.

andrew

I have a radio in my car.

Denerick

last word.

Agent Smith

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