Drugs - mod warning post 75!

Fink Goddie

Would it make you dump someone if you found out they used to do them??

krudler

It'd depend, once off experimenting when they were younger is one thing, but if they were habitual users, especially of hard drugs, it would put me off yeah. I know my gf has taken a few puffs of weed since we've been together, one of her mates is a stoner, but that doesnt really bother me. I've never done any kind of drugs myself (illegal ones, before people jump in a remind me alchohol and caffeine are drugs) as I've never had any interest in them, dont even like being drunk, more than sociabally tipsy anyway so the idea of being off my face has never appealed

minidazzler

Nope, wouldn't put me off at all.

I wouldn't date a Junkie, but I have no problem if someone has a history of Drug use.

Kooli

No not if it was in the past.

If they have nothing to do with drugs anymore, it would be a shame to make such a drastic decision based on something they used to do.

Novella

God, no.

If I met someone I really liked, I wouldn't be put off at all if he told me he'd used drugs in the past. I mean, if it was a major addiction, I guess I'd be kinda worried but not for me really, more for him. I wouldn't be put off though. I'm no saint and wouldn't like someone to judge me based on things I've done that weren't exactly wonderful.

Crumble Froo

not at all. especially if it was for use in the past.

i can understand people who have issues with people who are currently using whatever drugs, and in that, i include things like codeine/solpadeine, etc, as issues like money, addiction, health, escapism and character flaws become potential problems, but...

yeah, personally, i'd have no problem being with someone who was using drugs, probably just about any drugs, really, as long as i still thought them to be good people, and didnt feel worried that they might steal from me.

liah

Oh god no. Unless he was addicted to heroin, meth or cocaine. But if it was something like marijuana, hash, LSD, ecstasy/MDMA/other clean party/rave pills, or other harmless drugs I'd have no problem at all. Hell, I'd ask why he isn't still doing them, and if he is, I'd probably join him.They're harmless<linkremoved>

I singled out heroin, meth and cocaine (there's other rough drugs too but I can't be bothered listing all of them; you get the idea) simply because they have high rates of falling back on the drug due to addiction even if addiction has been "overcome" and they are severely mentally and physically damaging.

Lia_lia

No. All my previous boyfriends have been drug users.

If my boyfriend was seriously against drugs I'd be more likely to break up with him.

Unless he's a heroin/meth junkie. Fuck that!

WindSock

Drug user? Doesn't bother me at all. Drug addict is a different story.

It would depend on what he was addicted to, how addicted, what he did do get his drugs and how likely he is to relapse.

I definately wouldn't go near a guy who never touched drugs though.

Lia_lia

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Lia_lia wrote: »

^ You're a girl?!

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Did the sig not give it away?

Novella

Lia_lia wrote: »

^ You're a girl?!

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I thought the very same thing!!!!

metaoblivia

Past drug use wouldn't be much of an issue - almost everyone has used some kind of drug in the past. If he had struggled with addiction in the past, it would depend. I have addicts in my family and it's not a situation I'd be keen on becoming involved in.

But currently, I would expect little to no drug use (and yes, I consider alcohol a drug). I live a very clean lifestyle and I think I would feel most comfortable with someone who was similar (and vice versa. If a guy is really into drugs and that lifestyle - even just experimenting - it's probably a real drag to have a girlfriend who rarely even takes a sip of alcohol).

jellie

Used to do them? No, but id be a bit wary but thats from personal experience.

Still does them.. for me it would depend on what, how often, how if effects them, etc. But if im honest I probably couldnt go out with someone who regularly uses drugs.

My opinion is based on problems I had with an ex over them, so im biased.

dr.bollocko

Confident young lassies who can enjoy their drugs without it getting the better of them a big plus IMO.

helimachoptor

Never done drugs, not even smoked a joint (27btw) grew up seeing drugs in the area and have 0 interest in it. My friends range from having a joint a day to once a year. Said friends have experiment with harder drugs, cocaine and E, and with the state they were in (with one guy blowing 5/6 over a couple of months on powder - sorted now) I wonder why anyone would do it.

If a potential Gf have done E, cocaine, pot in the past it would depend on number of factors, 1 - how long ago and 2 how much they did it.

Its ok saying " oh yeah im cool if she was doink cocaine etc" they may change when she was getting off her face thurs-sund each week and having to use pot to calm the come down.

liah

helimachoptor wrote: »

Said friends have experiment with harder drugs, cocaine and E

E is a less damaging drug than pot, alcohol, tobacco, etc.

The first 4 on that list (heroin, cocaine, barbiturates, meth), I don't think I'd be able to deal with if the guy was a heavy user or a user at all. Far too easy to get addicted to and far too damaging as I mentioned earlier. I don't think I could deal with a guy who was a heavy user of alcohol (number 5) either. I've never encountered anyone on ketamine, benzodiazepines, or amphetamines (well, not within recent memory) so I can't comment on them. Tobacco I'm indifferent to, and anything below that I have no issue with at all, with the exception of solvents, because you'd have to be fairly desperate to get into them.

Pot, E, LSD, grand, and I'd probably join in. Not as a regular thing but a bit of craic when I'm bored of alcohol, which doesn't take much, as I don't particularly like its brand of high.

Like many of you have said, I'd be a bit weirded out if I went out with a guy who'd never tried drugs and was against them. It just shows me that they haven't done any research on the topic and are a bit closed off; I like a guy who isn't afraid to try new things and formulates opinions based on research and experience rather than the majority opinion. If they tried it and it wasn't for them, that's no problem with me, so long as they don't try to constrict my (fairly infrequent as it is) usage.

Jesus Wept

WindSock wrote: »

I definately wouldn't go near a guy who never touched drugs though.

Really?
How curious.

Lia_lia

liah wrote: »

E is a less damaging drug than pot, alcohol, tobacco, etc.

Yeah, I've never understood why people class ecstasy as such a "hard" drug. It's not addictive at all. Guess it's a class A, or whatever.

liah

Lia_lia wrote: »

Yeah, I've never understood why people class ecstasy as such a "hard" drug. It's not addictive at all. Guess it's a class A, or whatever.

I think it's because it has a fairly profound observable high, despite having little to no damaging or lasting effects. The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

Same would go for LSD; many think that if it's having an observable effect on you and gives such a dramatic high, it must be damaging to you in some way.

Lia_lia

liah wrote: »

The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

Or by drinking too much. The thought of that used to freak the crap out of me.

Crumble Froo

liah wrote: »

I think it's because it has a fairly profound observable high, despite having little to no damaging or lasting effects. The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

Same would go for LSD; many think that if it's having an observable effect on you and gives such a dramatic high, it must be damaging to you in some way.

similarly, one of the worst things you can do on e is drink too much water, as is the instinct to do when you're sweating a lot, etc.

at the same time though, ever seen someone out of it after injecting opiates? less observable effect, specially if they wear sunglasses, i find it easier to tell if someone's drunk than if someone's stoned. anyone i know who uses opiates like that, are generally quite functional (though possibly more likely to nod off :P ) and quite normal too, while they're stoned, with the exception of being exceptionally mellow. yet opiates are also class a, and are what most people here are saying would be the line they would draw.

Xiney

Past "soft" drug use wouldn't bother me.

But I wouldn't date someone who smokes cigarettes (can't stand the smell) or pot (again, the smell, but also the laziness. holy **** the laziness.) I wouldn't date someone who drinks to excess regularly.

It's likely that I wouldn't ever date someone who had ever tried cocaine, heroin, crystal meth. But that's probably more to do with the types of people who generally do those drugs and the types of people that I generally tend to go for. There aren't that many geeks who have an old heroin habit. (And I mean real geeks, not just scensters who are like, so geeky, because they like, totally wear fake horn rimmed glasses)

helimachoptor

liah wrote: »

E is a less damaging drug than pot, alcohol, tobacco, etc.

The first 4 on that list (heroin, cocaine, barbiturates, meth), I don't think I'd be able to deal with if the guy was a heavy user or a user at all. Far too easy to get addicted to and far too damaging as I mentioned earlier. I don't think I could deal with a guy who was a heavy user of alcohol (number 5) either. I've never encountered anyone on ketamine, benzodiazepines, or amphetamines (well, not within recent memory) so I can't comment on them. Tobacco I'm indifferent to, and anything below that I have no issue with at all, with the exception of solvents, because you'd have to be fairly desperate to get into them.

Pot, E, LSD, grand, and I'd probably join in. Not as a regular thing but a bit of craic when I'm bored of alcohol, which doesn't take much, as I don't particularly like its brand of high.

Like many of you have said, I'd be a bit weirded out if I went out with a guy who'd never tried drugs and was against them. It just shows me that they haven't done any research on the topic and are a bit closed off; I like a guy who isn't afraid to try new things and formulates opinions based on research and experience rather than the majority opinion. If they tried it and it wasn't for them, that's no problem with me, so long as they don't try to constrict my (fairly infrequent as it is) usage.

You'd take LSD for the craic??
A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.

Crumble Froo

helimachoptor wrote: »

You'd take LSD for the craic??
A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.

i think an important thing about taking just about any drugs, alcohol included, is to do it in a safe setting. druggie 101 really.

dearg lady

nope wouldn't bother me in the slightest, similiar to a few other posters, I'd probably prefer someone who has at least experimented as they would generally be more open minded...or maybe it's just the circles I move in, the kind of blokes I happen to meet!

liah wrote: »

I think it's because it has a fairly profound observable high, despite having little to no damaging or lasting effects. The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

Same would go for LSD; many think that if it's having an observable effect on you and gives such a dramatic high, it must be damaging to you in some way.

Ya know, that's a point that never occured to me before, and now you've said it, it make such sense!! it's almost like a Catholic guilt thing, well if it makes me feel this good, there must be a horrible price to pay!

helimachoptor

Crumble Froo wrote: »

i think an important thing about taking just about any drugs, alcohol included, is to do it in a safe setting. druggie 101 really.

Padded cell :DI understand what you're saying, but this guy is an intelligent guy really good job, smokes a bit of dope to de-stress, went off with a few lads and partners to amsterdam and nearly wound up dead.

The problem is if you take drugs in a social setting pub/club etc and everyone you're with is doing the same, where's the sensible person to keep an eye on you

liah

helimachoptor wrote: »

You'd take LSD for the craic??
A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.

See, this is what I mean by people who don't understand drugs..

ANYTHING can be bad if used in the wrong hands. I'm not dumb enough to take a hallucinogenic such as LSD or mushrooms and go wandering around by a tram. I'd do it with my mates in my living room, or out in an open field under the stars or something. The guy you worked with was an idiot for going wandering around when in that state and clearly had no sense of responsibility when it comes to drugs.

helimachoptor

dearg lady wrote: »

nope wouldn't bother me in the slightest, similiar to a few other posters, I'd probably prefer someone who has at least experimented as they would generally be more open minded...or maybe it's just the circles I move in, the kind of blokes I happen to meet!

I'd have to disagree with that, my 3 good mates who have ranged from snorting coke, to E to smoking regular dope are about as far from open minded as you get, doing drugs =/ open mindedness.

helimachoptor

liah wrote: »

See, this is what I mean by people who don't understand drugs..

ANYTHING can be bad if used in the wrong hands. I'm not dumb enough to take a hallucinogenic such as LSD or mushrooms and go wandering around by a tram. I'd do it with my mates in my living room, or out in an open field under the stars or something. The guy you worked with was an idiot for going wandering around when in that state and clearly had no sense of responsibility when it comes to drugs.

I understand them plenty I just don't do them, I go for beers yes I get in some states I dont go walking in front of cars jumping off buildings etc.

No he didnt go wandering around, he was sitting in the hosterl with 6/7 other people took some LSD freaked out ran around Amsterdam and nearly got killed.

Crumble Froo

helimachoptor wrote: »

Padded cell :DI understand what you're saying, but this guy is an intelligent guy really good job, smokes a bit of dope to de-stress, went off with a few lads and partners to amsterdam and nearly wound up dead.

yeah, drugs in a public area in a foreign city that speaks a different language... not something i'd ever be inclined to do, and im not exactly a 'really good job, smokes a bit of dope to de-stress' kinda person.

The problem is if you take drugs in a social setting pub/club etc and everyone you're with is doing the same, where's the sensible person to keep an eye on you

personally, i dont tend to take drugs in social settings like pubs or clubs. occasionally clubs, ill admit, but not since i was living in ireland. (about two yeras ago now). adn then,it's most likely to be e, which doesnt really mess iwth my judgement too much (y'no, not likely to run under bus).

liah wrote: »

See, this is what I mean by people who don't understand drugs..

ANYTHING can be bad if used in the wrong hands. I'm not dumb enough to take a hallucinogenic such as LSD or mushrooms and go wandering around by a tram. I'd do it with my mates in my living room, or out in an open field under the stars or something. The guy you worked with was an idiot for going wandering around when in that state and clearly had no sense of responsibility when it comes to drugs.

this, pretty much.

Crumble Froo

helimachoptor wrote: »

I'd have to disagree with that, my 3 good mates who have ranged from snorting coke, to E to smoking regular dope are about as far from open minded as you get, doing drugs =/ open mindedness.

i suppose it depends on what we're talking about being open minded about...

i know i'd definitely be more comfortable around someone who had at least tried drugs, or didnt hate them... or id feel really i duno, awkward, or judged or something.

liah

helimachoptor wrote: »

I understand them plenty I just don't do them, I go for beers yes I get in some states I dont go walking in front of cars jumping off buildings etc.

No he didnt go wandering around, he was sitting in the hosterl with 6/7 other people took some LSD freaked out ran around Amsterdam and nearly got killed.

Which is why you always have a sober mate with you when you do any sort of hallucinogenics so you don't do stuff like this. Like I said, he was irresponsible, end of. And just because YOU don't go walking in front of cars doesn't mean other people don't when you're drunk, so why would I go walking in front of cars when on LSD just because someone else does? You say you understand them but you clearly don't understand the culture behind them; responsible drug users always have a sober buddy when they do drugs that have effects like that. If they can't get a sober buddy, they don't do them. End of.

It's possible to be responsible with drugs just as much as it's possible to be irresponsible with drugs. It's how, when, and where you use them that counts. Don't tar me with the same brush as your workmate. I'm not him and I wouldn't make that mistake. None of my friends have made that mistake, either.

rainbow kirby

I wouldn't mind recreational use, but if they had a problem with drugs that would put me right off. I don't take anything, but I don't really mind if other people do as long as they are sensible about it.

helimachoptor

liah wrote: »

Which is why you always have a sober mate with you when you do any sort of hallucinogenics so you don't do stuff like this. Like I said, he was irresponsible, end of. And just because YOU don't go walking in front of cars doesn't mean other people don't when you're drunk, so why would I go walking in front of cars when on LSD just because someone else does? You say you understand them but you clearly don't understand the culture behind them; responsible drug users always have a sober buddy when they do drugs that have effects like that. If they can't get a sober buddy, they don't do them. End of.

It's possible to be responsible with drugs just as much as it's possible to be irresponsible with drugs. It's how, when, and where you use them that counts. Don't tar me with the same brush as your workmate. I'm not him and I wouldn't make that mistake. None of my friends have made that mistake, either.

I am not tarring anyone with any brush, I have seen plenty of people do stupid stuff while drunk, I've seen a guy off his face on coke thinking rats we're coming through the wall and then headbutt said wall and fracture his skull.

I have also seen friends who will have a couple of joints at a session and be perfectly fine. so forgive me for aksing what may seem like a dumb question... if 5 of you are having a session one person gets designated as the sober one??

I'm sure they are responsible recreational drug users out there, so far I have yet to meet one (internet people excluded of course liah)

Anyway, the last thread regarding drugs went off course and mods got banned so back on topic

for me its a personal choice, would I date someone who was doing LSD/Coke/E once a month, most likely not. Would I date someone who went out every weekend and got some drunk they had no recollection of what happened no I wouldnt.


@ Crumble foo, why would you feel awkward around a partner who hasnt tried drugs?

I think a lot of it will come down to what a person deems as recreational drug use and what they deem as habitual.

liah

helimachoptor wrote: »

I am not tarring anyone with any brush, I have seen plenty of people do stupid stuff while drunk, I've seen a guy off his face on coke thinking rats we're coming through the wall and then headbutt said wall and fracture his skull.

I have also seen friends who will have a couple of joints at a session and be perfectly fine. so forgive me for aksing what may seem like a dumb question... if 5 of you are having a session one person gets designated as the sober one??

I'm sure they are responsible recreational drug users out there, so far I have yet to meet one (internet people excluded of course liah)?

You don't know them because you're not into them, I'd imagine. You only notice the bad apples because they are bad, you're less likely to notice the good ones because they won't be doing stupid stuff in public and putting their lives in danger. Far more likely to fly under the radar; if you don't notice it it doesn't mean it's not there, it just means.. you don't notice it.

To be honest, I've seen far more drunk people doing stupid, irresponsible, life-threatening stuff than I ever have with drug users. But I'm not going to go and say the majority of them are irresponsible because of it, I just accept that drinking isn't my scene and so I'm not going to notice the responsible ones as much, as bad ones are more likely to stick out in your mind.

You've probably met many, helimachoptor, you just haven't realized it.

helimachoptor

liah wrote: »

You don't know them because you're not into them, I'd imagine. You only notice the bad apples because they are bad, you're less likely to notice the good ones because they won't be doing stupid stuff in public and putting their lives in danger. Far more likely to fly under the radar; if you don't notice it it doesn't mean it's not there, it just means.. you don't notice it.

To be honest, I've seen far more drunk people doing stupid, irresponsible, life-threatening stuff than I ever have with drug users. But I'm not going to go and say the majority of them are irresponsible because of it, I just accept that drinking isn't my scene and so I'm not going to notice the responsible ones as much, as bad ones are more likely to stick out in your mind.

You've probably met many, helimachoptor, you just haven't realized it.

Its a valid point, but I would also contest that the reason you see more people doing drunk stupid stuff is because you will encounter a lot more people drunk than stoned good or otherwise.

One final question if I may, where would you draw the line with a partners drug use, would 10 joints a day be too much, 2/3 E's Fri + Saturday etc.

Crumble Froo

helimachoptor wrote: »

@ Crumble foo, why would you feel awkward around a partner who hasnt tried drugs?

i potentially would. it's a part of my life, and not something i disclose very openly in public/real life. when im on different drugs, my personality/actions often change, and in my experience, people will often try to analyse that, or judge that. it's hard to really relate to properly without direct experience.

as well, quite often, people's reasons for not using them include disapproval, to some degree or another, whether it's the principal of altering your mind, or because you believe that people do stupid/dangerous things on them, or because it's illegal, or fear of addiction... there's very often a disapproval element in there, and i dont like for people close to me to disapprove of me/my lifestyle.

dearg lady

helimachoptor wrote: »

I'd have to disagree with that, my 3 good mates who have ranged from snorting coke, to E to smoking regular dope are about as far from open minded as you get, doing drugs =/ open mindedness.

oh absolutely, it'll depend on the person, that's why I said generally and not always, and it's just my personal experience. It may also be the kind of people I'm drawn to, I would tend towards open minded people more so, and that's open minded about everything, not just drugs related topics!

liah

helimachoptor wrote: »

Its a valid point, but I would also contest that the reason you see more people doing drunk stupid stuff is because you will encounter a lot more people drunk than stoned good or otherwise.

One final question if I may, where would you draw the line with a partners drug use, would 10 joints a day be too much, 2/3 E's Fri + Saturday etc.

A joint a day keeps the doctor away. Anyway, I don't know what would constitute too much pot or hash. Over the last month I had about 2-5 joints a day, give or take, and this week I've had none with no problems. Prior to that I'd gone months without it. Prior to THAT I'd have one every week or two. Marijuana isn't a particularly destructive drug, nor does it have many negative side effects. It's not the amount they smoke, it's whether or not they NEED the smoke that draws the line. If they can survive without it after smoking a lot every day (like I have) then it's no problem, but if they freak out without it and spend money they shouldn't on it because they're addicted, then I have a problem with it.

E's grand for weekends at the club, 2-3 should be fine on the weekend, I don't really do it often though so I can't say. It depends on the person and how much they can handle, too, as I've known two people who take pills from the same bag where one takes one pill and gets off his face and the other takes 5 and feels nothing.

Drugs are a personal thing. Everyone should know their own personal limitations, just like alcohol. Start thinking of drugs like weed/hash, LSD, and E like you do alcohol and you'll understand, but if you think of them as a separate category (when they're not: they're ALL drugs, socially acceptable or not) it's just not going to work and you'll never really "get" it.

Alcohol's your drug of choice. It suits you, you get along with it, you know how to use it. Weed is my drug of choice. It suits me, I get along with it, I know how to use it. It's the exact same thing.

helimachoptor

liah wrote: »

Drugs are a personal thing. Everyone should know their own personal limitations, just like alcohol. Start thinking of drugs like weed/hash, LSD, and E like you do alcohol and you'll understand, but if you think of them as a separate category (when they're not: they're ALL drugs, socially acceptable or not) it's just not going to work and you'll never really "get" it.

Alcohol's your drug of choice. It suits you, you get along with it, you know how to use it. Weed is my drug of choice. It suits me, I get along with it, I know how to use it. It's the exact same thing.

I've a friend who's smoked pot for a good 12 years now, we've had this argument many times(without a winner ), he doesnt drink much but has smoked 5+ per day everyday since he started, and he has yet to his explain his preference for having joints over beers in such clarity.

Liah + Crumble Foo appreciate the straight talking on the thread.

Xiney

Rather than extolling the virtues of this drug or that drug, how about we get back on the topic of whether they're deal breakers?

Crumble Froo

helimachoptor wrote: »

I am not tarring anyone with any brush, I have seen plenty of people do stupid stuff while drunk, I've seen a guy off his face on coke thinking rats we're coming through the wall and then headbutt said wall and fracture his skull.

and i watched a drunk guy set fire to his own pubes last weekend, while another drunk guy decided to sleep under the van we were using to get around... thanks be to fcuk he woke up when we turned the engine on.

I have also seen friends who will have a couple of joints at a session and be perfectly fine. so forgive me for aksing what may seem like a dumb question... if 5 of you are having a session one person gets designated as the sober one??

with weed, i wouldnt be inclined to designate a sober one... but with hallucinogens, hell****ingyes.

I'm sure they are responsible recreational drug users out there, so far I have yet to meet one (internet people excluded of course liah)

like liah said, you'd be surprised how many you'd meet on an average day that dont warrant your attention at all. where i work, i encounter plenty of injecting drug users, and i tell you now, the majority, you would probably never know were drug users, or even if they were stoned while you talked to them.

Anyway, the last thread regarding drugs went off course and mods got banned so back on topic

for me its a personal choice, would I date someone who was doing LSD/Coke/E once a month, most likely not. Would I date someone who went out every weekend and got some drunk they had no recollection of what happened no I wouldnt.

why do you class acid/coke/e once a month in the same category as someone who got so drunk they coudlnt remember what they'd done every week?

I think a lot of it will come down to what a person deems as recreational drug use and what they deem as habitual.

even habitual use, i could easily deal with. a good friend of mine couldnt start the day without a fcuking heap of solpadeine. ive freinds who couldnt contemplate getting out of bed if their methadone script hadnt come through, others who can't sleep without a joint at night. none of that use i would call 'recreational', but certainly not grounds to dump them/avoid them.

helimachoptor wrote: »

One final question if I may, where would you draw the line with a partners drug use, would 10 joints a day be too much, 2/3 E's Fri + Saturday etc.

personally, i wouldnt draw the line on the actual amount/frequency of the use, but on the effects it was having. i couldnt live on several joints a day, because i just dont function stoned, but i have good freinds who do. so if someone like me was to smoke 10 joints a day, yeah, that would have big implications on the relationship. it really is down to inviduals and circumstances, imo.

edit: sorry for getting off topic... ill bow out of this now, unless something's directed specifically at me, or i have something extremely relevant to say

Snowie

helimachoptor wrote: »

You'd take LSD for the craic??
A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.

I tock LSD
I had a ****ing good time, nothing bad happened, I just laughed my ass off for a very long time while listening to my walk man and seeing some really strange stuff.

I tock pills
I had a good time

I tock mdma it was great.

I tock magic mushrooms
I had a really good time besides froma mate who banged his head on a tree stump and trying to explain to our mates parents why there guest had was covered in blood and the ivy on trees looked like snakes that was really cool

I smoked more hash then i care to think about, I had an ok time.

I smoked weed and had a good time.


granted Drugs are bad and can fvck you up. But its your current mentality at the time some people I know take pills and they do mad things they can't handel the drug same way some people I know go really weird on drink, To me Im at the point ive been drug free for the first time for over 14 years I'm enjoying not being out of my bin all the time.

but you really gotta realise, that on some drugs including alcahol you loose control if you can handel that then, thats your own problem....

see the problem is you've seen one bad side of the apple, Ive seen some what good side except for my mate who did have a rough time it will never take me of the fact that nothing bad happened to me

thats not to say if you poped some acid youd be ok because i dont know you or what your like I beleave if you even goin gdown that route you need to be with in a very trusting group of friends whols a look after you B not freek you out to much....

Tho having said that ive seen the other side of the coin on how drugs can and are very distructive to peoples life...

But to anwer the Ops question,

while yes Ive been taken a lot of drugs in the past I'd prefer not to be
with a girl whos on drugs that way I wont have it in my face in my senctuary.

excuse the bill hicks styel comments...

Oh and mods and admin if i went a bit far on that pm me and I'll EDIT.

tommmy1979

So what i'm getting from this thread is that.. For a guy to be considered open minded he has to have experimented with particular drugs in the past?

liah

tommmy1979 wrote: »

So what i'm getting from this thread is that.. For a guy to be considered open minded he has to have experimented with particular drugs in the past?

I don't think that's quite what we're getting at.. it's just like.. we'd prefer them to have tried it if it was offered, to understand it better. So if he made a point of denying the drug, it'd be a bit odd to us, you know? Fine if he was feeling ill or whatever, but if it was just because he had this idea in his head that "nope, I don't do drugs even though I've never tried them, end of" it would turn us off because he's making a decision about something without understanding the drug, its effects on him, etc.

At least, that's what I think, and I think it's what others are getting at, but I can't speak for them so they can correct me.

Edited to say, it's like saying you don't like oranges without ever having tasted oranges. If you offered an orange to someone, and they said they didn't like it, and then told you they'd never tried it before, you'd say "well then how do you know you don't like it?"

Orizio

tommmy1979 wrote: »

So what i'm getting from this thread is that.. For a guy to be considered open minded he has to have experimented with particular drugs in the past?

Absurd isn't it?

Moreover, this 'try everything once to be open-minded' nonsense is just that. I don't have to swallow rat poison to know it would be an extremely bad thing to do - its irrational to argue that you have to physically experiment with a substance to understand that substance's effects.

Crumble Froo

Orizio wrote: »

Absurd isn't it?

really? is that what you're getting from this thread?

just because someone has an open mind about, say, drugs, doesnt necessarily mean they have an open mind about... say, gay rights, or kinky sex, or political reform.

Lia_lia

I didn't mean that at all. I meant I wouldn't go out with someone that is completely against drugs and goes on about how harmful they are all the time.

Fair enough if someone was offered a joint or whatever and didn't want to smoke it, grand. Doesn't make them not open minded. I just hate it when people lecture on about how bad drugs are when they don't really know anything about the drug.

Orizio

Lia_lia wrote: »

I didn't mean that at all. I meant I wouldn't go out with someone that is completely against drugs and goes on about how harmful they are all the time.

Fair enough if someone was offered a joint or whatever and didn't want to smoke it, grand. Doesn't make them not open minded. I just hate it when people lecture on about how bad drugs are when they don't really know anything about the drug.

It rather sounds like you have problem with annoying people in general then, views on drugs and whatever else aside.

liah

Orizio wrote: »

Absurd isn't it?

Moreover, this 'try everything once to be open-minded' nonsense is just that. I don't have to swallow rat poison to know it would be an extremely bad thing to do - its irrational to argue that you have to physically experiment with a substance to understand that substance's effects.

Big difference between rat poison and marijuana. One obviously kills you. The other is a well-researched drug that has been consumed by humans for thousands of years and has little in terms of negative side effects, and it is impossible to die from smoking too much in one sitting.

It's that we find it fairly hypocritical when one drinks alcohol and refuses a joint if it's being passed around saying "ah no, I don't do drugs." :rolleyes: