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Drugs - mod warning post 75!

  • 16-12-2009 05:46PM
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    Would it make you dump someone if you found out they used to do them??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    It'd depend, once off experimenting when they were younger is one thing, but if they were habitual users, especially of hard drugs, it would put me off yeah. I know my gf has taken a few puffs of weed since we've been together, one of her mates is a stoner, but that doesnt really bother me. I've never done any kind of drugs myself (illegal ones, before people jump in a remind me alchohol and caffeine are drugs) as I've never had any interest in them, dont even like being drunk, more than sociabally tipsy anyway so the idea of being off my face has never appealed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Nope, wouldn't put me off at all.

    I wouldn't date a Junkie, but I have no problem if someone has a history of Drug use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    No not if it was in the past.

    If they have nothing to do with drugs anymore, it would be a shame to make such a drastic decision based on something they used to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    God, no.

    If I met someone I really liked, I wouldn't be put off at all if he told me he'd used drugs in the past. I mean, if it was a major addiction, I guess I'd be kinda worried but not for me really, more for him. I wouldn't be put off though. I'm no saint and wouldn't like someone to judge me based on things I've done that weren't exactly wonderful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    not at all. especially if it was for use in the past.

    i can understand people who have issues with people who are currently using whatever drugs, and in that, i include things like codeine/solpadeine, etc, as issues like money, addiction, health, escapism and character flaws become potential problems, but...

    yeah, personally, i'd have no problem being with someone who was using drugs, probably just about any drugs, really, as long as i still thought them to be good people, and didnt feel worried that they might steal from me. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Oh god no. Unless he was addicted to heroin, meth or cocaine. But if it was something like marijuana, hash, LSD, ecstasy/MDMA/other clean party/rave pills, or other harmless drugs I'd have no problem at all. Hell, I'd ask why he isn't still doing them, and if he is, I'd probably join him.They're harmless<linkremoved>

    I singled out heroin, meth and cocaine (there's other rough drugs too but I can't be bothered listing all of them; you get the idea) simply because they have high rates of falling back on the drug due to addiction even if addiction has been "overcome" and they are severely mentally and physically damaging.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No. All my previous boyfriends have been drug users.

    If my boyfriend was seriously against drugs I'd be more likely to break up with him.

    Unless he's a heroin/meth junkie. Fuck that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Drug user? Doesn't bother me at all. Drug addict is a different story.

    It would depend on what he was addicted to, how addicted, what he did do get his drugs and how likely he is to relapse.

    I definately wouldn't go near a guy who never touched drugs though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ^ You're a girl?!

    Oops.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    ^ You're a girl?!

    Oops.

    Did the sig not give it away?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    ^ You're a girl?!

    Oops.

    I thought the very same thing!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Past drug use wouldn't be much of an issue - almost everyone has used some kind of drug in the past. If he had struggled with addiction in the past, it would depend. I have addicts in my family and it's not a situation I'd be keen on becoming involved in.

    But currently, I would expect little to no drug use (and yes, I consider alcohol a drug). I live a very clean lifestyle and I think I would feel most comfortable with someone who was similar (and vice versa. If a guy is really into drugs and that lifestyle - even just experimenting - it's probably a real drag to have a girlfriend who rarely even takes a sip of alcohol).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,503 ✭✭✭✭jellie


    Used to do them? No, but id be a bit wary but thats from personal experience.

    Still does them.. for me it would depend on what, how often, how if effects them, etc. But if im honest I probably couldnt go out with someone who regularly uses drugs.

    My opinion is based on problems I had with an ex over them, so im biased.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Confident young lassies who can enjoy their drugs without it getting the better of them a big plus IMO.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Never done drugs, not even smoked a joint (27btw) grew up seeing drugs in the area and have 0 interest in it. My friends range from having a joint a day to once a year. Said friends have experiment with harder drugs, cocaine and E, and with the state they were in (with one guy blowing 5/6 over a couple of months on powder - sorted now) I wonder why anyone would do it.

    If a potential Gf have done E, cocaine, pot in the past it would depend on number of factors, 1 - how long ago and 2 how much they did it.

    Its ok saying " oh yeah im cool if she was doink cocaine etc" they may change when she was getting off her face thurs-sund each week and having to use pot to calm the come down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Said friends have experiment with harder drugs, cocaine and E

    E is a less damaging drug than pot, alcohol, tobacco, etc.

    The first 4 on that list (heroin, cocaine, barbiturates, meth), I don't think I'd be able to deal with if the guy was a heavy user or a user at all. Far too easy to get addicted to and far too damaging as I mentioned earlier. I don't think I could deal with a guy who was a heavy user of alcohol (number 5) either. I've never encountered anyone on ketamine, benzodiazepines, or amphetamines (well, not within recent memory) so I can't comment on them. Tobacco I'm indifferent to, and anything below that I have no issue with at all, with the exception of solvents, because you'd have to be fairly desperate to get into them.

    Pot, E, LSD, grand, and I'd probably join in. Not as a regular thing but a bit of craic when I'm bored of alcohol, which doesn't take much, as I don't particularly like its brand of high.

    Like many of you have said, I'd be a bit weirded out if I went out with a guy who'd never tried drugs and was against them. It just shows me that they haven't done any research on the topic and are a bit closed off; I like a guy who isn't afraid to try new things and formulates opinions based on research and experience rather than the majority opinion. If they tried it and it wasn't for them, that's no problem with me, so long as they don't try to constrict my (fairly infrequent as it is) usage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    WindSock wrote: »

    I definately wouldn't go near a guy who never touched drugs though.

    Really?
    How curious.


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    liah wrote: »

    Yeah, I've never understood why people class ecstasy as such a "hard" drug. It's not addictive at all. Guess it's a class A, or whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    Yeah, I've never understood why people class ecstasy as such a "hard" drug. It's not addictive at all. Guess it's a class A, or whatever.

    I think it's because it has a fairly profound observable high, despite having little to no damaging or lasting effects. The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

    Same would go for LSD; many think that if it's having an observable effect on you and gives such a dramatic high, it must be damaging to you in some way.


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    liah wrote: »
    The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

    Or by drinking too much. The thought of that used to freak the crap out of me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    liah wrote: »
    I think it's because it has a fairly profound observable high, despite having little to no damaging or lasting effects. The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

    Same would go for LSD; many think that if it's having an observable effect on you and gives such a dramatic high, it must be damaging to you in some way.


    similarly, one of the worst things you can do on e is drink too much water, as is the instinct to do when you're sweating a lot, etc.

    at the same time though, ever seen someone out of it after injecting opiates? less observable effect, specially if they wear sunglasses, i find it easier to tell if someone's drunk than if someone's stoned. anyone i know who uses opiates like that, are generally quite functional (though possibly more likely to nod off :P ) and quite normal too, while they're stoned, with the exception of being exceptionally mellow. yet opiates are also class a, and are what most people here are saying would be the line they would draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Past "soft" drug use wouldn't bother me.

    But I wouldn't date someone who smokes cigarettes (can't stand the smell) or pot (again, the smell, but also the laziness. holy **** the laziness.) I wouldn't date someone who drinks to excess regularly.

    It's likely that I wouldn't ever date someone who had ever tried cocaine, heroin, crystal meth. But that's probably more to do with the types of people who generally do those drugs and the types of people that I generally tend to go for. There aren't that many geeks who have an old heroin habit. (And I mean real geeks, not just scensters who are like, so geeky, because they like, totally wear fake horn rimmed glasses)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    liah wrote: »
    E is a less damaging drug than pot, alcohol, tobacco, etc.

    The first 4 on that list (heroin, cocaine, barbiturates, meth), I don't think I'd be able to deal with if the guy was a heavy user or a user at all. Far too easy to get addicted to and far too damaging as I mentioned earlier. I don't think I could deal with a guy who was a heavy user of alcohol (number 5) either. I've never encountered anyone on ketamine, benzodiazepines, or amphetamines (well, not within recent memory) so I can't comment on them. Tobacco I'm indifferent to, and anything below that I have no issue with at all, with the exception of solvents, because you'd have to be fairly desperate to get into them.

    Pot, E, LSD, grand, and I'd probably join in. Not as a regular thing but a bit of craic when I'm bored of alcohol, which doesn't take much, as I don't particularly like its brand of high.

    Like many of you have said, I'd be a bit weirded out if I went out with a guy who'd never tried drugs and was against them. It just shows me that they haven't done any research on the topic and are a bit closed off; I like a guy who isn't afraid to try new things and formulates opinions based on research and experience rather than the majority opinion. If they tried it and it wasn't for them, that's no problem with me, so long as they don't try to constrict my (fairly infrequent as it is) usage.


    You'd take LSD for the craic??
    A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    You'd take LSD for the craic??
    A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.

    i think an important thing about taking just about any drugs, alcohol included, is to do it in a safe setting. druggie 101 really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    nope wouldn't bother me in the slightest, similiar to a few other posters, I'd probably prefer someone who has at least experimented as they would generally be more open minded...or maybe it's just the circles I move in, the kind of blokes I happen to meet!
    liah wrote: »
    I think it's because it has a fairly profound observable high, despite having little to no damaging or lasting effects. The most damage you can do to yourself while on E is just not drinking enough water leading to dehydration, and if you're smart you'll pre-plan and have a bottle with you at all times.

    Same would go for LSD; many think that if it's having an observable effect on you and gives such a dramatic high, it must be damaging to you in some way.

    Ya know, that's a point that never occured to me before, and now you've said it, it make such sense!! it's almost like a Catholic guilt thing, well if it makes me feel this good, there must be a horrible price to pay! :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    i think an important thing about taking just about any drugs, alcohol included, is to do it in a safe setting. druggie 101 really.


    Padded cell :DI understand what you're saying, but this guy is an intelligent guy really good job, smokes a bit of dope to de-stress, went off with a few lads and partners to amsterdam and nearly wound up dead.

    The problem is if you take drugs in a social setting pub/club etc and everyone you're with is doing the same, where's the sensible person to keep an eye on you :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    You'd take LSD for the craic??
    A guy i worked with took LSD in amsterdam a couple of years ago, started hallucinating and was about 1.5 seconds from being mauled by the cast iron wheels of a tram, now i know your reply will be "sure look what people do when they're drunk etc" Thats fine but I wouldnt be so blaise about taking LSD for the craic.

    See, this is what I mean by people who don't understand drugs..

    ANYTHING can be bad if used in the wrong hands. I'm not dumb enough to take a hallucinogenic such as LSD or mushrooms and go wandering around by a tram. I'd do it with my mates in my living room, or out in an open field under the stars or something. The guy you worked with was an idiot for going wandering around when in that state and clearly had no sense of responsibility when it comes to drugs.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    dearg lady wrote: »
    nope wouldn't bother me in the slightest, similiar to a few other posters, I'd probably prefer someone who has at least experimented as they would generally be more open minded...or maybe it's just the circles I move in, the kind of blokes I happen to meet!

    I'd have to disagree with that, my 3 good mates who have ranged from snorting coke, to E to smoking regular dope are about as far from open minded as you get, doing drugs =/ open mindedness.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    liah wrote: »
    See, this is what I mean by people who don't understand drugs..

    ANYTHING can be bad if used in the wrong hands. I'm not dumb enough to take a hallucinogenic such as LSD or mushrooms and go wandering around by a tram. I'd do it with my mates in my living room, or out in an open field under the stars or something. The guy you worked with was an idiot for going wandering around when in that state and clearly had no sense of responsibility when it comes to drugs.


    I understand them plenty I just don't do them, I go for beers yes I get in some states I dont go walking in front of cars jumping off buildings etc.

    No he didnt go wandering around, he was sitting in the hosterl with 6/7 other people took some LSD freaked out ran around Amsterdam and nearly got killed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    Padded cell :DI understand what you're saying, but this guy is an intelligent guy really good job, smokes a bit of dope to de-stress, went off with a few lads and partners to amsterdam and nearly wound up dead.

    yeah, drugs in a public area in a foreign city that speaks a different language... not something i'd ever be inclined to do, and im not exactly a 'really good job, smokes a bit of dope to de-stress' kinda person.
    The problem is if you take drugs in a social setting pub/club etc and everyone you're with is doing the same, where's the sensible person to keep an eye on you :)

    personally, i dont tend to take drugs in social settings like pubs or clubs. occasionally clubs, ill admit, but not since i was living in ireland. (about two yeras ago now). adn then,it's most likely to be e, which doesnt really mess iwth my judgement too much (y'no, not likely to run under bus).

    liah wrote: »
    See, this is what I mean by people who don't understand drugs..

    ANYTHING can be bad if used in the wrong hands. I'm not dumb enough to take a hallucinogenic such as LSD or mushrooms and go wandering around by a tram. I'd do it with my mates in my living room, or out in an open field under the stars or something. The guy you worked with was an idiot for going wandering around when in that state and clearly had no sense of responsibility when it comes to drugs.


    this, pretty much.


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