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PS3 Controller better then 360's

  • 08-12-2009 12:49am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭


    I have found a lot of people for a long time now saying that the Xbox 360's controller is better then the PS3s. However I find that the PS3 one is far better. I own all 3 consoles and I find the Wii one very awkward. The 360's one I wouldn't say it's uncomfortable but in comparison to the PS3 one it just doesn't feel as right. Maybe I just have giant hands but the power block just gets in the way of my fingers and does cause discomfort after a certain period. With the PS3 controller on the other-hand I have always felt that the it is the right shape and has the better layout.

    Basically I'm wondering does anyone else in the world, or at least in the boards community, feel the same as me? or am I alone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    I always prefer the ps3 controller because of it's simplicity (no extra buttons on the back or anything), but I prefer the analog stick on an xbox controller because of the way it's curved inwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    My mates always pick at the rubber bits so his end up a bit like that anyway.

    I myself have no preference but tend to lean towards the Playstation controller.

    I have used it since the days of the PSX and even during the 2 weeks my xbox was working I was always more comfortable with the playstation one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    I for a long time was a fan of both the ps3 pad and xbox 360's. I own both. I've had debates with people that prefer one over the other, basically with me sayong they're prqctically the same pads. But now, a year into my ps3 ownership I try avoid buying games on ps3 if they,'re avalable on xbox I'd rather that. The 360 pad is so mich more comfortable I feel. The analog controls on the ps3 tire my hands out fast. I love the PS3 has free online play. But I dread playing FIFA now as my hand cramps. So I'm considering selling my ps3 and getting fifa and an xbox live subsription. I hope nobody that I debated the ps3 and xbox controllers in the past is reading this heh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    I find that they suit certain games, although I'm basing this on the ps2 rather than the ps3 pad mainly, since I haven't played a huge amount of ps3 yet.

    The 360 is perfect for fps games, but for driving I don't like the triggers and love the classic burnout system on ps2 of pulling the stick back to brake and forward to accelerate. I am not however, aware if this is still standard practice for driving games, haven't played one on the ps for years! PS pad was waaay more comfortable for gta4 as well. And I sincerely regret getting tekken 6 on xbox and not playstation, fighting games are horrible on xbox.

    Considering that pretty much everything is either a fps or uses those controls though I guess the xbox wins, but I'm happy with either really.

    Oh and for football and most sports (except the new NHL system) I prefer the ps pad as well so... tough call!

    I will add that I have unnaturally small hands so every pad feels right to me, seems like people with bug hands have an issue with one of the two for some reason.

    So I see it as Dreamcast > xbox = ps3!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    I haven't used an XBox controller for any great time, but even picking it up in the shop, when I was looking at buying a console, it felt all wrong to me. Maybe with usage over time I'd have found it better, but after a PS1 and 2, the PS3 was more natural. Also, big difference between the original six axis and the Dual shock 3 - DS is bigger and heavier, and feels much, much better in the hand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    My hand is sculpted to a PS joypad anything else is just weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Gaeldor68


    My hand is sculpted to a PS joypad anything else is just weird.
    That is basically the perfect description of how I feel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    I must say I love the trigger buttons on the Xbox as your fingers are sort of hooked on to them, really handy for mad sessions in COD, where as the PS3 L2/R2 are crap in comparison. But you can buy triggers to put on them so I guess that problem is solved there.

    The Xbox controller is way too heavy and the battery pack just gets in the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    I personally prefer the PS3 controller. Reason?

    1. I had been using this style of controller for years. It fits into my hands like a glove.

    2. I prefer the weight of the controller as it is light-weight but not flimsy.

    3. The directional pad, though not fantastic, is still a lot better than the 360 version for SFIV.

    4. Charging the controller is very easy. The lack of a battery pack also means that my fingers are not obstructed at the back.

    Anyway, its not like the PS3 controller is without issue, but above is why I prefer it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭CombatCow


    Yeah definitely agree with points 2,3,4. Also The DualShock3 was a big improvement over the sixaxis. The L2 and R2 addon triggers for the controller are much needed tho.


    CC


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    The original PS controller was designed around a d-pad and the 4 face buttons, that controller was glorious.

    I'm not exactly sure when they introduced the analogue sticks but it was after nintendo N64 and maybe around the time of the Dreamcast too.

    They shoe horned the sticks onto the controller and I have never felt they are laid out very well. The controller is still orientated for the pad and face buttons and using the sticks feels a lot more un-natural than many of the more modern stick controllers.

    I think the PS controller design is dated and needs to be updated, especially when it comes to triggers and sticks.

    EDIT: Ah it seems they have addons for triggers, a step in the right direction imho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    CombatCow wrote: »
    The L2 and R2 addon triggers for the controller are much needed tho.
    I hear people say this a lot about the Dualshock, and I don't quite understand it. That being said, I do think that they don't give enough resistance so I modded mine with springs from a ballpoint pen, which feels much better. This is the same reason why I don't like the 360 controller triggers and brackets, they just feel really flimsy, there's little resistance behind them. Perhaps I should give modding my 360 controllers a shot as well. It could just be that I hold the controller differently from some folk.

    I always thought that the 360 controller was better suited for bigger hands, but the OP contradicts that. I'm basing this on the fact that the OH doesn't like the 360 controller as she says it's too big and bulky, I've heard quite a few people say this and they all had smaller hands than me - someone who finds the 360 controller quite comfortable to hold and use. I think that a lot of people may not adjust the way they hold the controller - with the 360 controller I wrap my hands around it tightly whereas with the Dualshock I'm holding it more loosly. There was a thread on NeoGAF about this a while ago that explains what I mean much better (with pictures).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭CombatCow


    Yeah im talking about these specifically, once you try them you wont go back.
    realtrigger2.jpg

    I dont like the 360 triggers, their like something from a nerf gun :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,396 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Always hated the playstation pad since it came out. It was way to small, 4 face buttons meant that capcom games were out of the question and the d-pad is a terrible design. The d-pad is far better than the 360's but it's still terrible. The dual shock was another horrible design with two analogue sticks just bolted on to the controller. It's only really accepted because it's been the controller most people have used in the last 10+ years or so. Just look at it's competition from the previous gen, the Gamecube and Xbox s-controller, much better controllers. It's a terrible design and I'm disappointed with Sony going for it again. The 360 controller loses out with a slightly crappier d-pad but in every other way it's better. It has good heft to it, is the right size and decent analogue sticks.
    Vegeta wrote: »
    The original PS controller was designed around a d-pad and the 4 face buttons, that controller was glorious.

    Eh it was never good. There was outcry at how bad the original PS1 controller was. It was too small, only had 4 face buttons and the d-pad was pathetic. You have to remember that when it came out it was being compared to the excellent snes and megadrive 6 button and the main competitor was the saturns glorious pad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Larkin91 wrote: »
    I always prefer the ps3 controller because of it's simplicity (no extra buttons on the back or anything)

    They have exactly the same amount of buttons :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Topics been done to death at this stage... for me it will be the 360 controller (don't even own a 360, but have 2 of the controllers for the PC). Ergonomically, aesthetically and technically I find it superior to the PS3 controller.

    EDIT: from that neogaf thread, this post is hilarious :D

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18512898&postcount=34


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I despise the PS3 joypad. I own both a 360 and PS3 and will always go for any multi-platform game on the 360 - just because of the joypad. The PS3 controller is outdated and in desperate need of an overhaul. The analogue sticks are spongy and unresponsive with a massive deadzone and the triggers are just awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    They have exactly the same amount of buttons :confused:

    Think he is referring to the Wii controller there. Buttons at the back and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭smokingman


    Having played with many controllers over my long years of gaming, it'll be a long, long time before my Wii-remote and nun-chuk are pried from my cold, dead hands. If I was to pick a conventional controller, I'd go for my Virtual-Boys one...that just melts into my grasp!

    Back on topic, 360 controller is far better than the PS one, yet still both being amateurs... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭smooch71


    Much prefer the feel of the PS3 controller in the hand. Except for the "triggers"

    I get cramps if I use the Xbox one for long periods of time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Otacon wrote: »
    I personally prefer the PS3 controller. Reason?

    1. I had been using this style of controller for years. It fits into my hands like a glove.

    2. I prefer the weight of the controller as it is light-weight but not flimsy.

    3. The directional pad, though not fantastic, is still a lot better than the 360 version for SFIV.

    4. Charging the controller is very easy. The lack of a battery pack also means that my fingers are not obstructed at the back.

    Anyway, its not like the PS3 controller is without issue, but above is why I prefer it.

    1. I've been using various controllers for years, and have always felt that the PS series of controllers were the most uncomfortable to use... They're about as ergonomic as a lump of coal!

    2. Funnily enough, I find them too light and flimsy feeling (the six axis definitely is, anyway)

    3. That's great for 1 game that you'll actually use the D-pad for... For everything else you have to uncomfortably reach for the left stick, instead of having it right under your thumb ala the 360 controller.

    4. Never had an issue with 360 battery pack, and at least they provide a cable long enough to charge while playing

    The 360 controller just does everything better as far as I'm concerned, but then again, this is in the PS forum, so I'm sure I'm in the minority here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭ItsNoAlias


    Much prefer the 360 controller due to my huge hands and it feels... I dunno meatier. PS3 is just to small and the analog bars are in a horrible position. Course the Dpad on the 360 is attrocious so i guess ps wins that round...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    Does anybody use the d-pad for anything other than menu navigation these days though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    koHd wrote: »
    Does anybody use the d-pad for anything other than menu navigation these days though?

    It's uses on the PS3 are limited tbh. Can't say I use it much at all. That being said, I do prefer the D-Pad for Wipeout HD, but that's probably only because I originally played Wipeout with a PS1 controller that didn't have analogues.

    I think the point about it being better for fighting games is moot. Been to a fair few Street Fighter meetups and the PS3 crowd largely use sticks, whereas there are a few in the 360 crowd that play the game, really well, with the 360 controller because of its superior analogue stick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 padraig61091


    Larkin91 wrote: »
    I always prefer the ps3 controller because of it's simplicity (no extra buttons on the back or anything), but I prefer the analog stick on an xbox controller because of the way it's curved inwards.
    yeah i dont like the ps3 analogues either but u can easily swap them around all u need is a screwdrive and a bit of sandpaper or nailfile (and a ps3 and 360 controller of course)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    tman wrote: »
    1. I've been using various controllers for years, and have always felt that the PS series of controllers were the most uncomfortable to use... They're about as ergonomic as a lump of coal!

    I have also owned many different types of controller. NES, SNES, Mega-Drive, N64... I got my 360 Elite less than a year ago. I just do not like the controller. As for the Wii, I need to have my hands next to each other if I am using the Nunchuck to make it feel natural!
    tman wrote: »
    2. Funnily enough, I find them too light and flimsy feeling (the six axis definitely is, anyway)

    The SIXAXIS is too light, no doubt, but I haven't broken one yet. TBH I consider the DS3 as the PS3 controller now so the SIXAXIS doesn't really come into it for me.
    tman wrote: »
    3. That's great for 1 game that you'll actually use the D-pad for... For everything else you have to uncomfortably reach for the left stick, instead of having it right under your thumb ala the 360 controller.

    That includes fighting games, driving games and football games, pretty much every gametype I play besides shooters.
    tman wrote: »
    4. Never had an issue with 360 battery pack, and at least they provide a cable long enough to charge while playing

    I didn't get a charging cable in my pack, unless you're talking about the rechargeable packs you buy separately.
    tman wrote: »
    The 360 controller just does everything better as far as I'm concerned, but then again, this is in the PS forum, so I'm sure I'm in the minority here...

    The OP himself mentioned how most people prefer the 360 controller and was asking if anyone else agreed with his preference, so no, you are not in the minority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Gaeldor68


    Also theres a lot of moaning about the triggers but again I'm a guy who likes to use the old L1 aim and R1 shoot. I just think it's better.

    And I just edited this in as I say Otacon said, too lazy to quote, it that with the Wii controller them being separate part is just freaky. When playing Dead Space: Extinction I have to hold the numchuck to my chest so it won't move round because it just feels too strange
    ItsNoAlias wrote: »
    Much prefer the 360 controller due to my huge hands and it feels... I dunno meatier. PS3 is just to small and the analog bars are in a horrible position. Course the Dpad on the 360 is attrocious so i guess ps wins that round...

    I feel the opposite to be honest, as I said I have big hands and i just feel like the controller gets in the way with the Battery and even my fingers hit off the battery when I pull the triggers, which is really annoying.
    koHd wrote: »
    Does anybody use the d-pad for anything other than menu navigation these days though?

    I know I never do but my friend still uses it to play FIFA with which I think is gas but then again he's a complete wierdo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    I find the 360 far more comfortable to use and more precise for fps games.

    I can remember my hands aching when playing through Resistance 2. Saying that, the foam add-ons really helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Gaeldor68 wrote: »
    I know I never do but my friend still uses it to play FIFA with which I think is gas but then again he's a complete wierdo

    I take exception to that! :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 padraig61091


    koHd wrote: »
    Does anybody use the d-pad for anything other than menu navigation these days though?

    allot of games use it for stuff like picking weapons quick or other actions like that usally you just dont realize that your pressing them because there not a big thing like the analogues which u always have ur finger on i know in metal gear solid u need to use it allot for weapon switching and codec messages


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    I feel the design of the PS3 controller s really starting to show its age and is been kept because it is iconic and has a strong brand loyalty attached to it. the 360 on the other hand is ergonomic and well thought out.

    Having said that the PS3 controller is much better for Fighting games, I pity anyone trying to play SFIV on xbox with that dpad, and how anyone can use the sticks for that stuff is beyond me. the Bumper buttons on the 360 are also pants.

    I'm blessed with small hands so neither causes me any discomfort except in particularly long sessions and even then its only the PS3's incompetent L2 and R2 that cause problems, must get some of those trigger add ons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Eh it was never good. There was outcry at how bad the original PS1 controller was. It was too small, only had 4 face buttons and the d-pad was pathetic. You have to remember that when it came out it was being compared to the excellent snes and megadrive 6 button and the main competitor was the saturns glorious pad.

    From component point of view (saturn d pad for example) the controllers you mention are indeed superior but from an ergonomic point of view I much prefer holding the original PS controller than the snes or the saturn pad. It is more comfortable to hold than both others.

    As you've pointed out before, component design is pretty fcuked these days anyway due to companies having licenses on certain types of d-pad and the likes.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,396 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Having said that the PS3 controller is much better for Fighting games, I pity anyone trying to play SFIV on xbox with that dpad, and how anyone can use the sticks for that stuff is beyond me. the Bumper buttons on the 360 are also pants.

    I pity anyone using the PS3 d-pad for fighting games like street fighter 4. It's bloody awful. The 360 d-pad is useless for them as well. However the PS3 d-pad is only slightly less useless. It's still useless. I remember getting the street fighter anniversary editions for the PS1 and only playing them about twice because it was just impossible with the awful PS d-pad. You need a stick or decent pad to play SF4 properly imo.
    Vegeta wrote: »
    From component point of view (saturn d pad for example) the controllers you mention are indeed superior but from an ergonomic point of view I much prefer holding the original PS controller than the snes or the saturn pad. It is more comfortable to hold than both others.

    I really can't agree less. The SNES and saturn pads are two of the most comfortable pads I've ever used. Anyone that says they prefer holding the PS pad over the saturn one really hasn't got experience using one because you will be hard pressed to find anyone that used a saturn for any lenght of time not praising it probably the best joypad ever made. The PS pad is just too small for me and after extended play sessions I used to get pins and needles in my fingers until I got used to it (well into the PS2 era).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I really can't agree less. The SNES and saturn pads are two of the most comfortable pads I've ever used. Anyone that says they prefer holding the PS pad over the saturn one really hasn't got experience using one because you will be hard pressed to find anyone that used a saturn for any lenght of time not praising it probably the best joypad ever made. The PS pad is just too small for me and after extended play sessions I used to get pins and needles in my fingers until I got used to it (well into the PS2 era).

    And I think you are romanticising the pads, especially the snes pad. The blister machine that it is.

    As I've said the Saturn pad has better components which puts it far above the PS pad in terms of usability but for out and out comfort, it is simply not ergonomically as sound as the PS controller (for my hand size at least)

    I find it conflicting that you criticise the PS controller for being small but praise the snes pad which is of very similar dimensions I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I pity anyone using the PS3 d-pad for fighting games like street fighter 4. It's bloody awful. The 360 d-pad is useless for them as well. However the PS3 d-pad is only slightly less useless. It's still useless. I remember getting the street fighter anniversary editions for the PS1 and only playing them about twice because it was just impossible with the awful PS d-pad. You need a stick or decent pad to play SF4 properly imo.

    You're right of course, anyone wanting to play seriously, especially online will need to get a proper arcade stick. That aint me however so I manage to get by with the pad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    I am too used to the Playstation joypads now that nothing else feels right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    CombatCow wrote: »
    Yeah im talking about these specifically, once you try them you wont go back.
    realtrigger2.jpg

    I dont like the 360 triggers, their like something from a nerf gun :pac:
    Oh yeah, I know what you meant, they're Giotek or something like that, right? What I was asking was what exactly is wrong with the triggers the way they are? Is it just the fact that they curve in? When I read people say that their fingers 'slip off' the triggers I just can't fathom why that would happen. But like I said, perhaps I just hold the controller a bit differently or something along those lines.

    Surely this is all down to personal preference in the end, it bothers me when people speak to you like you don't know any better because you prefer controller X or Y. I'm not convinced that one controller can be empirically demonstrated to be better than another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Bonavox


    CombatCow wrote: »
    Yeah im talking about these specifically, once you try them you wont go back.
    realtrigger2.jpg

    I dont like the 360 triggers, their like something from a nerf gun :pac:

    CombatCow is right. I've got these and if I ever lose them the controller will never feel the same again.

    On the contrary, no mini controller add-ons will stop me from saying the Xbox controller is a lot better than that of it's Playstation brethren/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    GothPunk wrote: »
    Surely this is all down to personal preference in the end, it bothers me when people speak to you like you don't know any better because you prefer controller X or Y. I'm not convinced that one controller can be empirically demonstrated to be better than another.

    That's a very valid point and obviously backed up by posts above. Peoples hands vary in all dimensions so one controller does not fit all.

    There are ever lasting truths though, based solely on functionality and have nothing to do with layout position or size, such as the 360 d-pad being junk. It simply doesn't register an action sometimes. It's not toooo obvious in some games where say equipment is linked to the 4 directions and you just have to push it again and it's not utterly game breaking.

    Apply that to fighting games though and it becomes very unreliable and annoying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    The 360 Pad feels nice and weighty (DS3 did add some weight to it to be fair) and I do love the triggers for FPS. I hate the 'jewelstone' butons though - much prefer the PS and the shapes.

    I don't play many fighting games but I admit to having difficulty pulling off moves that required diagonals in SS2THD..ABCDEFGH.

    I know Fifa forces you to use the Sticks but PES doesn't and I love the directional buttons, they just feel more precise.

    I must get me a set of those triggers but tbh I wish the R2 and L2 were still the same as they were on the PS2, especially for football games. It is simply too far to push down if you want to do a snap curling shot on PES for example.

    I am surprised Retr0, thaqt you found the PS1 pad too light but not the SNES one, I second the blister point with those pads also..although will qualify that with the fact street fighter was prob my most played game on the console.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    GothPunk wrote: »
    What I was asking was what exactly is wrong with the triggers the way they are? Is it just the fact that they curve in? When I read people say that their fingers 'slip off' the triggers I just can't fathom why that would happen.

    Fingers slipping off the triggers was never an issue for me, it wasn't why I bought these addons either. It's a simple example of the principle of a lever. The lip on the trigger addon allows for a greater level of sensitivity when depressing the trigger. It completely changed how well I was able to make minor adjustments to the triggers in games that utilized it, like race games.

    Also, for finger placement, I never have my index and middle fingers on the shoulders (I've never seen anyone who does) and some games require all 4 buttons to be used separately (resistance 2 being an example) I only use my index fingers. These trigger addons allow me to use the first joint on my index fingers for L1 and R1 and then the tip of my index finger for L2 and R2. With the convex design of the triggers, this isn't possible without the addons creating a portruding lip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Gaeldor68


    I feel the design of the PS3 controller s really starting to show its age and is been kept because it is iconic and has a strong brand loyalty attached to it. the 360 on the other hand is ergonomic and well thought out.

    I'm not sure I agree with the whole showing it's age thing tbh, if it was a megadrive controller and you said to me it was showing its age I'd say ok but not the DS3. Did you see the early shots of what the controller was going to be like? a F***ing BOOMERANG! I do like new things and somethings i update because the newer one is sexier but as the saying goes if it ain't broke don't fix it.

    One size fits all rarely fits all, airplane seats the perfect example my knees are half way up the person infronts ass, but both controllers seem to be ok for everyone to a certain extent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Gaeldor68 wrote: »
    I'm not sure I agree with the whole showing it's age thing tbh, if it was a megadrive controller and you said to me it was showing its age I'd say ok but not the DS3. Did you see the early shots of what the controller was going to be like? a F***ing BOOMERANG! I do like new things and somethings i update because the newer one is sexier but as the saying goes if it ain't broke don't fix it.

    Well the fact that it hasn't changed a single bit in 15 years means its missing 15 years worth of ergonomic improvements, the 360 controller was a slight variation on the original xbox controller that was still identifiable as an xbox product and improved the functionality and ease of use of the controller. I'd like Sony to do the same thing and I'd like them to do it this generation please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Gaeldor68


    Well the fact that it hasn't changed a single bit in 15 years means its missing 15 years worth of ergonomic improvements, the 360 controller was a slight variation on the original xbox controller that was still identifiable as an xbox product and improved the functionality and ease of use of the controller. I'd like Sony to do the same thing and I'd like them to do it this generation please.

    Well I wouldn't say not a single bit has changed Triggers? Wireless? PS Button?
    Do you find it uncomfortable? or are you just demanding it to change because the competition changed?
    There are third party controllers that are of various shapes have you tried any of them?
    I'm not too familiar with the original xbox controller but as far as I'm concerned there is no more functionality in the 360 one then the PS3 one.
    I'm not sure if they advances in ergonomics over the past 15 years has been the greatest thing if the latest big thing is the Wii controller.
    As I said they did attempt to change it for this console but there was uproar because people liked the one they have now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,396 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    noodler wrote: »
    I am surprised Retr0, thaqt you found the PS1 pad too light but not the SNES one, I second the blister point with those pads also..although will qualify that with the fact street fighter was prob my most played game on the console.

    The PS1 is light, flimsy and uncomfortable. The SNES one is small and light but just feels better madeand it'comfortable. A SNES controller can withstand a nuclear blast while my PS3 dual shock feelslike it will fall apart after 1 controller tantrum.

    As for the blisters? You can't call yourself a gamer unless you've had a arrow shaped blister on your thumb from the d-pad. Carlsberg don't do blisters but if they did...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Gaeldor68 wrote: »
    Well I wouldn't say not a single bit has changed Triggers? Wireless? PS Button?
    Do you find it uncomfortable? or are you just demanding it to change because the competition changed?
    There are third party controllers that are of various shapes have you tried any of them?
    I'm not too familiar with the original xbox controller but as far as I'm concerned there is no more functionality in the 360 one then the PS3 one.
    I'm not sure if they advances in ergonomics over the past 15 years has been the greatest thing if the latest big thing is the Wii controller.
    As I said they did attempt to change it for this console but there was uproar because people liked the one they have now.

    You've somewhat missed my point, in design terms it hasn't changed a bit, neither wireless nor the PS button make any difference to the design of the pad, the way its held or how the buttons are used. As for the triggers, they have changed slightly, not for the better however.

    The 360 controller improved upon the functionality of the original xbox pad by relocating some of the buttons and changing the shape of the pad slightly, making it easier to hold for longer periods. In my experience the 360 is easier to use for longer, hence increased functionality.

    Don't get me wrong, I like the DS3, it rarely causes me problems aside from the convex thumbsticks, however I feel the 360 pad is superior and it got to be that way through a process of evolutionary design undertaken by microsoft, I would love Sony to do the same simply because I think they could make a better controller if only they wanted to. The boomarang/horseshoe design is not what I am talking about, that was a publicity driven mess that quite clearly was completely unusable as a controller, unsurprisingly it never saw the light of day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    As for the blisters? You can't call yourself a gamer unless you've had a arrow shaped blister on your thumb from the d-pad. Carlsberg don't do blisters but if they did...

    Guilty bloody gear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭atat23


    Last time I used an Xbox controller was last gen, my bro in law had a big one and a small one, with my smaller hands I preffered the smaller controller but the buttons themselves felt really plasticy or something, they just didn't feel like they depressed enough either. Maybe they 360 controllers are different so I can't say.

    So in saying that, I'm obviously going to say I prefer the PS controller because of the size and feel but mainly because I'm use to it.

    I actually hated the Giotek triggers when I first used them, they seemed to stick out too much but now I can't play without them, I find myself pressing too hard though, causing them to dettach from the controller, maybe it's just wear and tear and they have loosened from overuse, time to get some more.

    I also find myself using my Sixaxis more than my dualshock, my dualshock eats the battery power in no time and I prefer to play wirelessly. The sixaxis last longer but even when it runs out I find it hard going back to the dual shock because it suddenly feels so heavy so I end up just plugging the cable into my sixaxis :D

    The Wii controller is fairly awesome, I can't imagine using it for every game, like the turning in FPS's is terrible, it worked well for metroid actually but it was friggin perfect for Zelda. Also the fact you can go old school with the nunchuk dettached is a really nice touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭mcgovern


    I much prefer the 360's controller, I do notice that my arm starts to hurt if I play the PS3 for too long, while all day sessions on the 360 leave my arm/hand feeling grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    mcgovern wrote: »
    I much prefer the 360's controller, I do notice that my arm starts to hurt if I play the PS3 for too long, while all day sessions on the 360 leave my arm/hand feeling grand.

    I'm the same, i've been playing my PS3 a lot ore than my Xbox recently and notice my hands tart hurt/cramp a bit after playing for ages. While i can play all day with an Xbox controlller


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