31 students arrested after Christmas party in the City

RobitTV

Gardaí in Waterford arrested 31 students last night and in the early hours of this morning for a range of public order offences and Fighting in the city.
It is understood the students were out celebrating their annual Christmas Day event when the arrests were made.


Most of the arrests took place in the city centre, Lismore Park and Templars Hall housing estates.

Gardaí say they will be talking to authorities at Waterford Institute of Technology in relation to the matter. Gives the Gardai something to do lol

Sosa

RobitTV wrote: »

Gardaí in Waterford arrested 31 students last night and in the early hours of this morning for a range of public order offences and Fighting in the city.
It is understood the students were out celebrating their annual Christmas Day event when the arrests were made.


Most of the arrests took place in the city centre, Lismore Park and Templars Hall housing estates.

Gardaí say they will be talking to authorities at Waterford Institute of Technology in relation to the matter. Gives the Gardai something to do lol

I was out running last night,passed muldoons-Rubys crossroads and there was loads of messing going on,a selection of them decided to run down the road with me,soon shook them off,wasnt a joke for them after about 100 metres,that was around 7:30...

irishvamp90

I went down from limerick to my friend last year and it was shocking,the loat of students acting like complete scumbags was unreal.Not saying it was all W.I.T students it was a mix of w.i.t.,people down from other colleges and just alot of wasters from other countys to get drunk cheap mid week.We got attacked by some waster from kilkenny,whothe guard told us had lots of drunk offences in kk and waterford but seemed all respectable

ziedth

Out of the four odd christmass days I went too,

1. Girl got glass beside me in the Dome yeer man just threw his pint over his shoulder ala begbie in trainspotting.

2. A Girl got raped on the quay.

3. A guy git run over by a lorry after from what I heard he climed onto it at a red ligght.

4. An all out riot broke out and they had to pull the fire alarm in the dome to get everyone out.

5. An apartment got thrashed I mean thrashed in manor village the lads who lived there got evicted and fined something like 11k.

6. I was half jumped outside abbra forr no reason only the fact the guards where there i'm sure I would have got my ass kicked.

Problem is its not "christmass day" anymore that was canceled by the college after incident 1. there is NOTHING they can do about it as its just a randomly picked wednesday in december every year and not offical.

Oh and of course BLOODY STUDENTS :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Tellox

overall, it's just a messy, messy night.. and there's nothing that can be done about it, since there's no real organisation involved.

Myself, I wound up in work today with pink polkadot socks.

irishvamp90

Im in lit,im getting my free fee's but its shocking the amount of scobes/scum/chavs that are going to college it really has downed the value of going

Stokolan

On my way home yesterday I came onto paddy browns road via the cork road and there was about 10 guards outside The Park Inn about 5:30. If the trouble was starting that early it must have been a crazy night in town.

RobitTV

Next Year the Gardai will be Prepared If the gardai Arrested 31 people this year what is it going to be like next year??

zeppe

Well it looks like the guards were a bit tougher this year which is good.
They could do with some riot police too at this stage though, this kind of behaviour should not be tolerated. I was in the old RTC from 90-92( f**k, 17 years ago!) and there was nothing like this carry on. I'd love to know what exactly has changed. More money, cheaper alcohol, cocaine?
I know I'm getting old and digressing a bit but I worry for the safety of my children in this country nowadays..

Dr. Baltar

As a student myself, I've got to say that this kind of behaviour sickens me. Sure I go out and have a laugh and get drunk ect. but there is a line between fun and fun at someone elses expense. It's sad that a minority such as this brings the reputation of all students in Ireland down.

brendansmith

I went to WIT and hung around with lads from Wexford and Tipp there. There were absolutely insane. I think there is something about growing up in the country, they seemed to think they could anything and it was ok like fighting bouncers, ripping stuff of walls, kicking full wheelie bins out onto the road and thats the mild stuff. :eek:

ziedth

Dr. Baltar wrote: »

As a student myself, I've got to say that this kind of behaviour sickens me. Sure I go out and have a laugh and get drunk ect. but there is a line between fun and fun at someone elses expense. It's sad that a minority such as this brings the reputation of all students in Ireland down.

I have often stood up for students on here, I work in UCC and I do feel they get a raw deal at times. BUT it is not a small minority on christmass day. if anything it seems to be 50/50.

Sure on regular student nights it can be 99% of them are only drunk/have to be brought home but for some reason this day at least for every year I was in WIT all bets where off.

Very worrying trend IMO.

jimmyw

WIT want to have the college upgraded to a uni?Not with this carry on. God help the residents.

j walsh

I was working in Oxygen night club last night and in fifteen years of doing door work, It was one of the worst nights that I've ever worked, I wouldn't say people causing trouble was 50/50 as there's an awful lot of nice students out there but there was some amount of scum bags out last night, I saw so many incidents where people just walking past people and bumping into them and getting smacked in the head and then all hell breaks loose, it was happening all night long, They really gave the majority students a bad name.
The amount of them that had no respect for property, others, bouncers and more so gardai was unbelieveable.....
I think there was a full moon last night as well so that would play a part in the madness. don't laugh I'm serious....Along with drinking all day as well of course...

Elbows22

j walsh wrote: »

I was working in Oxygen night club last night and in fifteen years of doing door work, It was one of the worst nights that I've ever worked, I wouldn't say people causing trouble was 50/50 as there's an awful lot of nice students out there but there was some amount of scum bags out last night, I saw so many incidents where people just walking past people and bumping into them and getting smacked in the head and then all hell breaks loose, it was happening all night long, They really gave the majority students a bad name.
The amount of them that had no respect for property, others, bouncers and more so gardai was unbelieveable.....
I think there was a full moon last night as well so that would play a part in the madness. don't laugh I'm serious....Along with drinking all day as well of course...

Oh the memories of working in oxygen for college christmas . To be fair a lot of the trouble around last night was from people coming to waterford for the christmas day and not students themselves. Im not backing up students because personally i hate them (different breed of people altogether) but from what ive seen and heard this was the case. Park inn had to be closed and cleared out at 4 ish on the day - they do this every year - students early in the day then close and reopen for regulars later on about 8. Apparently a young lad was hit by a car outside madigans at the end of the nite with the girls driving the car doing a runner. Crazy night but just your typical Wednesday nights just a little bit busier. Theres talk of banning college christmas days in the wit altogether but i can't see this working as they will all go out in there numbers on the first Wednesday of December as this is traditionally the day set out for it.
Some of the madness last night - riots in rubys, oxygen and harveys and people urinating everywhere including up against bars,cars and well basically everywhere - madness - some of them just need a good kick in the a**e. Templars Hall is just gone rediculious but to be honest residents should have thought about where they were moving to before they moved into the biggest student housing estate in the city -no excuse i know but sure what did they expect??

seanybiker

Feck it I was gonna go into town and all. Damn hicks

shapez

Can someone give an outline of exactly what kind of mayhem went on? Are we talking drunk & disorderly offenses, fights etc. I did hear of a couple who were caught having sex in the front lawn of a house in Lismore Park at 12.30 in the afternoon. :rolleyes:

Mr check raise

shapez wrote: »

Can someone give an outline of exactly what kind of mayhem went on? Are we talking drunk & disorderly offenses, fights etc. I did hear of a couple who were caught having sex in the front lawn of a house in Lismore Park at 12.30 in the afternoon. :rolleyes:

Damn i missed it!

gscully

shapez wrote: »

Can someone give an outline of exactly what kind of mayhem went on? Are we talking drunk & disorderly offenses, fights etc. I did hear of a couple who were caught having sex in the front lawn of a house in Lismore Park at 12.30 in the afternoon. :rolleyes:

I believe there was a caller on to Billy McCarthy saying that a man and his daughter were stopped at traffic lights somewhere in the evening and a student repeatedly exposed himself to the girl. When told to stop by the father, he replied that he likes them young! :mad:

shapez

gscully wrote: »

I believe there was a caller on to Billy McCarthy saying that a man and his daughter were stopped at traffic lights somewhere in the evening and a student repeatedly exposed himself to the girl. When told to stop by the father, he replied that he likes them young! :mad:

Whoa. Sounds like the whole town was something out of a Resident Evil movie. :eek:

jonnyfingers

gscully wrote: »

I believe there was a caller on to Billy McCarthy saying that a man and his daughter were stopped at traffic lights somewhere in the evening and a student repeatedly exposed himself to the girl. When told to stop by the father, he replied that he likes them young! :mad:

I drove home from work at 4pm and at the roundabout on Paddy Brown's Road by the college I saw nearly 10 people get knocked down. Students who were absolutely wasted were walking through moving traffic, completely oblivious. I said to myself that there was definitely going to be some sort of crash sooner or later..

Lo and behold I drove by the same spot around 6pm a car was being removed from the junction of Paddy Brown's Road and Sunrise Crescent. The whole front of it was smashed. I was told later that a drunk driving student had enough of queuing in traffic, decided to drive up on to grass next to the road to pass out traffic and swiftly drove straight into a tree. The drunk driving student part hasn't been confirmed but the car definitely hit the tree.

jimbojazz

Yip, saw that as well around 6.15 when I was dropping my son up to boxing. Car smashed in on grass verge just down from Bad Bobs. Two youngish girls around 18 -19 being questioned by Garda.

Later when I was collectiing him at about 7.45 there were two cars at the island across from AOL on main Cork Road at the traffic lights pulled up on the grass and about 8 or 9 youths gathered around the cars - looked like one had also hit a tree.

But cant confirm what their occupation was.

Also noticed the unmarked Garda cars patrolling the Lismore Park areas and a number of Gardai on the corner of the Park Inn.

In my opinion the ones that were arrested that were students should be expelled and made an example of and maybe this would be a future deterrent.

Paddy@CIRL

jimbojazz wrote: »

In my opinion the ones that were arrested that were students should be expelled and made an example of and maybe this would be a future deterrent.

Agree with you on that one. Send them home with no registration or fees refunded with no further chance to ever attend the WIT again.

Nolanger

That's what happens when they let the riff raff into 3rd-level. Education-for-all me hole!

gscully

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

Agree with you on that one. Send them home with no registration or fees refunded with no further chance to ever attend the WIT again.

Agreed! Amazing how they can march in protest about tuition fees, complaining that they'll have no money, yet they spend an absolute fortune on drinking and partying, and obviously have no concept of value if they can treat their cars so recklessly...not to mention the little value they have for human life!

calerbass

Howdy, to say that its only a minority is wide of the mark, more like the majority. My sister has a house in Templars Hall and i can tell you if you went in their on a wednsday night it would nt be just one or two houses. What she is putting up with there is just unbelievable. She previously brought one landlord to court through going to the court clerk and lodging a complaint under the noise pollution act. The landlord was continously hostile and refused to sort the problem which led him to court. He was living across the road with students so how do you deal with the likes of him, this guy owned five houses and was from limerick. He got what he deserved in court and was warned if he found himself back in the court over the samer problem within a year he would get 30 days in prison.

She like all the other genuine residents should not have to put up with what goes on there, they can have all the stewards in yellow jackets they want policing housing estates but as long as their is no direct disciplinary action in the college for students behaviour outside of it, it will never be sorted. The law is an ass because the guards cant act but if you go up to john st and act the monkey you ll be arrested. People should make their voice heard when their campaigning for a university, local councillors with their mickey mouse videos on you tube saying how great it would be to have university status my ass. I hope it never happens.

dlofnep

I wasn't out because I knew this kind of carry on would go on. It always does. Bunch of sheep feel the need to go out at get off their face before lunchtime. I was talking to a taxi driver last night and he said he was giving loads of them taxis home at 4PM because they were already twisted.

actuallylike

ziedth wrote: »

Oh and of course BLOODY STUDENTS :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Not really fair with your label 'student' there, they're just young scumbags that happen to be students, the fact that they're students obviously has nothing to do with it. I'm a student (mature) and I resent every time a student does something out of college, people blame it all on students.

mike65

Its on Liveline!

www.rte.ie/radio1

kayaksurfbum

Guy from Lismore park on Joe duffy now.

redarmyblues

brendansmith wrote: »

I went to WIT and hung around with lads from Wexford and Tipp there. There were absolutely insane. I think there is something about growing up in the country, they seemed to think they could anything and it was ok like fighting bouncers, ripping stuff of walls, kicking full wheelie bins out onto the road and thats the mild stuff. :eek:

If you exchange the Counties of Mayo and Roscommon for Wexford and Tipp the exact is true for Sligo, throwing life preservers into the river is a big one with the Galoots here.

CantGetNoSleep

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Guy from Lismore park on Joe duffy now.

Yeah you're furious are you

shapez

Listening to Joe Duffy. Some people didn't even scratch the surface of what kind of events happened on Wednesday.

Sully

mike65 wrote: »

Its on Liveline!

www.rte.ie/radio1

Was it on Liveline earlier this week?

mike65

Don't think so but I haven't heard it every day. (check Liveline thread on radio forum)

markok84

it's dem bloody stew-dents joe!

TheFlatulator

I think a lot of whats your saying is hypocritical... These students are your brothers and sisters who go to college or are you friends or your relatives. So what have ye done to stop it bar bi*ch and whine....

What you need to do come down on them like a ton of bricks if you find out some one you know was doing that otherwise you are just pi**ing the wind.

Yes there are people out there that are scumbags but labling students as scumbags but where are there parents why they not given them the common sense to be nice. We are all accountable for this, so it will only get resolved when you yourself stand up and make your voice heard. It can done, when I was a student they wanted to ban christmas in 2001 and 2002, I took part in a demonstration and I also helped to stop anybody acting the maggot.

The same can be said for most people of waterford, when they out and get drunk, why not ban ruby, muldoons and all other pubs from serving because the irish publicans are greedy and thats why this allowed to happen. Why don't you target them, and then target the over active drink problem the irish nation has because you all have made this acceptable.

Do what I did when some some pi**ed against my front door, follow them and call the guards and lead them to your position and give a statement and have them charged...

JohnC.

It's our fault? God forbid these students, who are allegedly adults, take some responsibility for themselves.

TheFlatulator

Where did they learn the behaviour from? Where did they get the acceptance of such actions?

We've allowed this to happen, are you as a future parent allow you kids to do this? I know I won't and I know my parents didn't... So ask yourself who do you know is a student. Then ask yourself, are they behaving like scumbags, if they are what have you done about it.

The fact is they won't take responcibility for themselves, so who should, I will, i'll stand up to them.

Sully

TheFlatulator wrote: »

I think a lot of whats your saying is hypocritical... These students are your brothers and sisters who go to college or are you friends or your relatives. So what have ye done to stop it bar bi*ch and whine....

No relation of mine out there that night, that I can say for sure. In fact, any of my friends that went out that night were not acting in any shape or form that was to cause trouble.

What you need to do come down on them like a ton of bricks if you find out some one you know was doing that otherwise you are just pi**ing the wind.

I can think of several of my close friends who would do exactly that in such an event, and try to cop them on during the night in question. At the end of the day, while we can try, its not always going to make the right impact.

Yes there are people out there that are scumbags but labling students as scumbags but where are there parents why they not given them the common sense to be nice. We are all accountable for this, so it will only get resolved when you yourself stand up and make your voice heard. It can done, when I was a student they wanted to ban christmas in 2001 and 2002, I took part in a demonstration and I also helped to stop anybody acting the maggot.

Well, seeing as it was a student night out and a large majority out there were students (or of that age group) - its a somewhat fair assesment to make. I witneessed the ****e on John St. and they were mostly students (or of that age group). Not every student is a scumbag, fair enough, but "31 arrests" is nothing compared to the trouble that actually went on that night.

The event should be banned or controlled better - every year it gives a bad name to the city, gives hell for the Guards, local businesses and residents. With rapes and big accidents (some causing deaths) as a result of such occasions - it can no longer be deeemed acceptable and should be stopped.

[quote[The same can be said for most people of waterford, when they out and get drunk, why not ban ruby, muldoons and all other pubs from serving because the irish publicans are greedy and thats why this allowed to happen. Why don't you target them, and then target the over active drink problem the irish nation has because you all have made this acceptable.[/quote]

Well, on every night of the week or busy weekend when Waterford people and visitors go out on the piss it does not create as much havoc and stress that Christmas Day (and Rag Week in some respects) causes to the people of Waterford and the Guards. The trouble caused throughout the general drinking occasions throughout the year is very very small compared to that caused by the students going out on a full daily binge starting early in the morning working their way up to the early hours of the next morning.

Do what I did when some some pi**ed against my front door, follow them and call the guards and lead them to your position and give a statement and have them charged...

A bit more to it then that, tbh. The incident should not have occured in the first place.

Sully

TheFlatulator wrote: »

Where did they learn the behaviour from? Where did they get the acceptance of such actions?

We've allowed this to happen, are you as a future parent allow you kids to do this? I know I won't and I know my parents didn't... So ask yourself who do you know is a student. Then ask yourself, are they behaving like scumbags, if they are what have you done about it.

The fact is they won't take responcibility for themselves, so who should, I will, i'll stand up to them.

Parents have a huge role to play in this also, sure. But at the end of the day these people are now considered adults and should be well able to make judgement calls on when enough is enough (drink wise) and what not to do on a night out.

The only way this is ever going to be resolved is if the Guards take a VERY strict policy on this. Put in a number of restrictions for local pubs/clubs to curb the whole daily binge and clubs opening early to cash in on the pissed students. A large presense and be prepared to tell local businesses to "close up" if things get out of hand. A happy medium as such.

pebblesman

Ok I think its horribly unfair to brand these 31 people in the same catagory as every student. Im in college in GMIT and we had our Christmas day party yesterday and yes i was drunk and so was 90% of the college but the night went along well without any hassle and that seems to be the same as every other event in the college. There are some people who do get out of hand but you dont have to be a student for that to happen.

Galway is a student city and Im sure that is fairly similar in Waterford. Galway would be nothing without the students and i see that with every bit of noise made by a minority and it is a minority is always pumped up into something its not. I remember last year there was supposed to have been a riot in our student village and without even thinking you have politicians ringing into radio stations callin for these students to be expelled without even knowing the full story. These are people futures they were just going to flush down the drain.

The college have not got the athority to expell these students from the college anyways as they are over 18 off college grounds and both WIT and there students union said it wasnt a college event....

Sully

pebblesman wrote: »

The college have not got the athority to expell these students from the college anyways as they are over 18 off college grounds and both WIT and there students union said it wasnt a college event....

Incorrect. The college, to the best of my knowledge, have always had powers to root out this type of thing. They are using them against students causing trouble in student estates.

pebblesman

Sully wrote: »

Incorrect. The college, to the best of my knowledge, have always had powers to root out this type of thing. They are using them against students causing trouble in student estates.

Yes they can bring disciplinary action on anybody living in student accommodation but cannot expell anybody living in private rental. Its completely out of their hands

gordo666

i love the fact that people seem to be tarring the vast majority of students out that night with the same brush really. i'm a student myself, and i was out with a group of 10 or 15 friends (all students) on that night, after drinking most of the afternoon and evening, but did not cause a bit of trouble, and i'm sure roughly 90% of people could say the exact same thing.

i'm not disputing the fact these hooligans that destroyed the town and have made the rest of us that were enjoying the festivities need to be punished, because obviously they got arrested because they done wrong, and i'm sure some of them need to learn to cop on and grow the hell up... but i do not like the fact that there are people giving out about ALL students in WIT, especially when it has been claimed that only 1 or 2 of those arrested were actually students in WIT, with the rest being people visiting from other parts of the country, or possibly even locals

just for the record, i'm a waterford lad myself, so i am annoyed at the state of the place after it all, but i've seen saturday nights that have been just as bad, if not worse... and they aren't discussed for days on billy mccarthy or on liveline.... it just appears that since it's to do with the college everyone jumped at the opportunity to give out and have a moan about the students

so at the end of the day:

:mad: yes, it was disgraceful how filthy town was left after it all

:mad: yes, anyone that has vandalised the place needs to be punished, and don't think anyone can say otherwise

:cool: HOWEVER people need to realise that this happens more often than they think in waterford, and that saturday nights (where all the students come home from around the country to visit mammy and daddy) can be just as bad, if not worse.... we either just don't hear about it, or people tend to gloss over it because people don't want to acknowledge the fact that their precious little boy or girl could be stupid enough to get drunk and do something bold!!

CantGetNoSleep

If 90% of people did not cause a bit of trouble, 10% is still far too many to be causing trouble. Say there were 3000 people out that night, 300 of them causing trouble is far too many, it shows that there is a very significant proportion of scumbags in WIT - don't try to blame it on other students, FAS or people who arent students or whatever - WIT is a bit of a scum hole at this stage and that is a fact. Thank fcuk it will never be a University

blue-army

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Say there were 3000 people out that night, 300 of them causing trouble is far too many, it shows that there is a very significant proportion of scumbags in WIT

:rolleyes:
Apparently only 1 of the 31 arrested was a student in WIT, so that's a bit harsh now...

timmywex

The problem with the christmas day in waterford is that loads of people come down from dublin to visit friends for the night or whatever, thats what creates the problems!

I know plenty of people in WIT but i know far more that went down for the night out.....

phil16phil

I am a mature student studying a full time day course in WIT and the queue outside the dome that morning had to be seen to be believed. I,m not for one moment condoning what happened Wednesday. But people need to be reasonable.

The students are... by and large good people and good for the city. Blanket brandishing all students as scumbags, calling for the college to expel students over something that happens in town and bringing the University argument into the equation is unhelpful.

By all means highlight the issues but do it in a manner that is reasonable.

CantGetNoSleep

blue-army wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Apparently only 1 of the 31 arrested was a student in WIT, so that's a bit harsh now...

Where is this one student being arrested figure coming from?

And if it is true (yeah right) it doesn't excuse the amount of trouble the scumbags caused on Wednesday night, it just shows more of them got away with it

homolumo

time to get rid of Christmas Day, it started off with the good intention of raising money for charity then the drinking took priority and now it is out of hand. WIT has a big part to play in this and even though closing the Dome would just mean drinking elsewhere it should close for the day. It all
comes down to money and considering the incidents that have occurred over the years it beggars belief that WIT still plays a part in it. Looking at the bigger pic it is all just symptomatic of the Irish attitude towards drinking.