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Diesel...What would you choose with 7k?

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    #32
    nogoodnamesleft
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭nogoodnamesleft


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ..as distinct from Passat's which have neither style NOR substance....:rolleyes:


    ..always a good thing, irrespective of the brand...

    ...you're not supposed to. CANBUS requires proper equipment - you cant just lash on a Multimeter and hope it all goes well.
    As for not including multiplexing, well get used to it, there won't be a car on the planet without it, shortly. All new Germans use it..........

    ...indeed. New ones seem to be terrible.

    Told you: Germans.

    Im quiet familar with the concept of CANBUS i was meerly explaining how it works in lay mans terms. Even with non CANBUS cars (for example odb2) the 1st thing you do to diagnose a fault is to run a diagnostic on it.

    It would be incredibly difficult to tap cables or ribbon cords in some cases with a multimeter to check for extremely small voltages especially with electronics. Considering the extra resistance and attenuation you would introduce on the electronic circuit by approaching it in this manner especially with certain french cars as they have enough trouble as it is :D


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    #33
    DF1
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭DF1


    Are toyota electrics as complicated as the french or germans ?


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    #34
    nogoodnamesleft
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭nogoodnamesleft


    Totally off topic but:

    All car electrics operate on the same principal, wiring looms ,switches etc and still do to a certain degree.

    However car manufacturers and now turning to multplexing (i.e. combining different signal voltages on the same wire to operate devices) instead of running seperate electric cables for each device. The principal of multiplexing has been used in computers for years in the form or Buses its now being applied to cars.

    The benefits for car manufactures its that production cost is lower, less wiring and faster to manufacture.


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    #35
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    You might just about squeak an Accord diesel for that money or a wee bit more. A mate brought an 04 one in from the UK for about 6k incl VRT.

    Failing that the Mondeo.


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    #36
    Dave147
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Have an Audi A4 for sale here if you want it.

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=163079&cat=500

    She's on Irish plates now, but those are the original pics.


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    #37
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Dave147 wrote: »
    Have an Audi A4 for sale here if you want it.

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=163079&cat=500

    She's on Irish plates now, but those are the original pics.

    9 years old, 140k miles:eek:, no leather for €7k... you're having a laugh, right?!


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    #38
    gleep
    Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭gleep


    Tragedy wrote: »
    Never heard of problems with the renault diesel engines, generally its fiddly electrics that are shoddy(and not in later cars).

    Not saying the S40's linked were bad spec, but compared to the laguna they are.

    Laguna Sky's have:
    - Glass electric sunroof
    - Climate control air conditioning
    - Auto parking brake
    - Rear proximity sensor
    - Alloy wheels
    - Rear spoiler
    - Electric windows and mirrors
    - Hands free door opening and ignission

    And if I'm not mistaken(which I could well be), it looks the laguna sky linked also has cruise control and steering wheel mounted stereo controls.


    Disclaimer: All of the above extras and gizmos will fail, and for some bizarre reason your car may not start if when the elec mirrors, parking sensors are broken. As someone else has already said, THE LAGUNA IS CHEAP FOR A GOOD REASON!


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    #39
    Dave147
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    JHMEG wrote: »
    9 years old, 140k miles:eek:, no leather for €7k... you're having a laugh, right?!

    Sorry I wasn't aware it was December 2010. Where did you get your calendar? These TDI audi's don't come with leather, only 1.8's and 2.5's have it as an option. Car is in absolute mint condition with full S line kit, 2006 Audi Navigation Plus system, 4 excellent tyres, FSH, timebelt done.

    So no, I'm not having a laugh.


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    #40
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Dave147 wrote: »
    Sorry I wasn't aware it was .. 2010.
    4 weeks away.

    Sorry, but it seems very expensive.


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    #41
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,147 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Dave147 wrote: »
    Sorry I wasn't aware it was December 2010. Where did you get your calendar? These TDI audi's don't come with leather, only 1.8's and 2.5's have it as an option. Car is in absolute mint condition with full S line kit, 2006 Audi Navigation Plus system, 4 excellent tyres, FSH, timebelt done.

    So no, I'm not having a laugh.

    Sorry mate and no disrespect to you or your car but in just under a month it is will be 9 years old, that's all a buyer will see and be prepared to wait if necessary. Alot of garages are selling used cars now at January 2010 prices.

    A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it not what the owner thinks it's worth.


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    #42
    nogoodnamesleft
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭nogoodnamesleft


    Dave147 wrote: »
    Sorry I wasn't aware it was December 2010. Where did you get your calendar? These TDI audi's don't come with leather, only 1.8's and 2.5's have it as an option. Car is in absolute mint condition with full S line kit, 2006 Audi Navigation Plus system, 4 excellent tyres, FSH, timebelt done.

    So no, I'm not having a laugh.

    Really? here is a 1.9tdi 130bhp with leather.


    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A4/1.9TDI-S/200946195866773/advert?channel=CARS

    and a considerably cheaper one on gumtree also 01 although I would be checking the mileage with a fine tooth comb.

    http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/19/46914619.html

    Edit: Just curious.....your car is on 140k miles as stated in your advert and you have just changed the timing belt. Timing belt on the tdis are recommended to be changed every 60k miles or every 4years along with Timing belt tensioners and waterpump. So it should be on its 3rd belt, if it wasnt id be asking serious question regards what other maintenance jobs were not completed if I was a prospective buyer. Just my 2c.


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    #43
    potsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭potsy11


    Wow....I think we may be going off topic a little...but loving it all the same!!

    Thanks everyone for their feedback. Been looking at the UK sites also and listening to various other influences....

    I know this is a smaller car but what do you think? I dont believe there are too many 1.9 in ireland. I rang the garage and this is a Cat -d car. It was stolen and then recovered. Insurance company had paid out on the claim so it was auctioned off to the current dealer. Going to get a mechanic to ahve alook at it me thinks.

    Any opinions? I should get this back all in (flights, vrt etc) for 6500.

    http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200949347436938/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/vauxhall/model/astra/price-to/5000/seller-type/trade_adverts/transmission/manual/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/engine-size-cars/1-7l_to_1-9l/price-from/3000/fuel-type/diesel/radius/30/page/1/postcode/b263qj?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2Fusedcars%2Fpostcode%2Fb263qj%2Fradius%2F30%2Fmake%2Fvauxhall%2Fmodel%2Fastra%2Fprice-to%2F5000%2Fseller-type%2Ftrade_adverts%2Ftransmission%2Fmanual%2Fmaximum-mileage%2Fup_to_80000_miles%2Fengine-size-cars%2F1-7l_to_1-9l%2Fprice-from%2F3000%2Ffuel-type%2Fdiesel%2Fpage%2F1%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc&anchor=advert200949347436938&logcode=p


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    #44
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    Dave147 wrote: »
    Sorry I wasn't aware it was December 2010. Where did you get your calendar? These TDI audi's don't come with leather, only 1.8's and 2.5's have it as an option. Car is in absolute mint condition with full S line kit, 2006 Audi Navigation Plus system, 4 excellent tyres, FSH, timebelt done.

    So no, I'm not having a laugh.

    It's incredibly poor value at 7k to be honest, and over valued.


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    #45
    TM RACING
    Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭TM RACING


    SABB 9-3 Tid are good value at the minute


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    #46
    DF1
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭DF1


    What makes of cars dont use this multiplexing carry on ?


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    #47
    nogoodnamesleft
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭nogoodnamesleft


    DF1 wrote: »
    What makes of cars dont use this multiplexing carry on ?

    All older cars use the traditional way of electrics
    VAG brought in CANBUS in and around 2005 for example with the Passat (B6 Platform) and the Golf (Mk 5).

    French manufactures were one of the 1st to use it as mentioned previously one of my collegues has a 2002 citroen c5 and it has CANBUS technology.


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    #48
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    DF1 wrote: »
    What makes of cars dont use this multiplexing carry on ?

    Morgan maybe! :)


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    #49
    HashSlinging
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    Damn, none of the cars in this thread have shifted at all except the 156, thats a first. The 6 - 8k price range must be what's holding people off.

    I've a bad habit of going through old threads to see whats sold, some of the older cars 00 - 01 2 - 4k are walking off the car lots.


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    #50
    furtzy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭furtzy


    Friend in the trade says the only things selling for him at the moment are exactly that €6k -€8k diesels


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