Inferno Ranbat 6

Leprekaun

Right, shall we make it whoever is there first gets the machines then? :P

But like there are SF meets every weekend and there haven't been any forza ones afaik. I guess we can sort something out on the day.

Doctor DooM

Leprekaun wrote: »

Right, shall we make it whoever is there first gets the machines then? :P

But like there are SF meets every weekend and there haven't been any forza ones afaik. I guess we can sort something out on the day.

Forza's XBOX only, right? The PS3's are never that heavily used in there.

I reckon we should book machines in advance, I mean both meets. how many people are not going to play SF because of Forza/ vice versa? I could care less about racing games since Super Monaco GP on the Megadrive tbh

Leprekaun

Ah yes, Super Monaco GP, that game was ahead of its time . Spent hours and hours on that.

Yeah, fair enough. Like I said anyway, I'm pushing for a meet so just waiting to see if any interest builds up over the week.

animaX

I'm ok with either date although the 5th would give me more time to get my new stick ready!

Dreddybajs

Kirby wrote: »

The pause thing is something that I don't really agree with at our level of play. It's always accidental and never malicious. I had somebody pause on me in a tourney and I also accidentally paused on somebody else. Both times we played on without incident.

If somebody paused on me, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Any time it's happened so far to me I've had to problem playing on, but I wouldn't feel bad if anyone insisted on taking the round if I pressed start on someone - eg. last XGC thing I was playing Foamy and he paused during a round to answer his phone and I didn't mind (don't think he was aware of the pause rule in general at that time though). I did the same thing before at a previous tourney in a game vs Hmuya and expected to lose the round for it when I did it, just needed to take the call (he was nice enough to let us go on regardless though).

edit: And Lep, I was just pointing out that as far as I know there's no wankery aspect to that unless you're saying we should reschedule the SF4 meets just based on your calendar. :pac:

bush

Dreddybajs wrote: »

he paused during a round to answer his phone

**** sake :pac: Id take a round for that

Placebo

god forbid real life gets in the way of gaming :rolleyes:
i agree with doom for one, it should be a lenient rule in my opinion.
Unless it happens like it did to sagat at the LAN, think guy pressed it 10 times

Dreddybajs

Well there was no entry fee into that tourney anyway bush so I don't think people were too hardcore about enforcing the rules etc. In future tourneys I'd take the round though, and have no problem with someone else doing it if I paused.

Doctor DooM

Placebo wrote: »

god forbid real life gets in the way of gaming :rolleyes:
i agree with doom for one, it should be a lenient rule in my opinion.
Unless it happens like it did to sagat at the LAN, think guy pressed it 10 times

Thats the kind of thing the rule is there for, tbh. 10 times? Who did that?

Sagat06

Ah we'll leave him nameless, he was on a pad and he was gutted with himself for it happening.

Placebo

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Thats the kind of thing the rule is there for, tbh. 10 times? Who did that?

not sure, i over heard him say it.
if its a casual tournament like last week and my phone rings, i will be pickin that up. I think i once bet RY while on the phone, with one hand using a ps pad, in his defence he had only picked up sf4 at the time

bush

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Well there was no entry fee into that tourney anyway bush

Oh right, big difference. I wouldnt really care about that.

blag

Sagat06 wrote: »

Ah we'll leave him nameless, he was on a pad and he was gutted with himself for it happening.

In the circumstances where it's obviously accidental I'd be inclined to let it go.

The only real issue for me would be a pause during a combo or losing charge because of it,as Doom already alluded to.

I can understand Dreddy letting Foamy off for answering his phone during a tourney match but there was no entrance fee/prize so it'd have been petty.

However,if someone paused to answer their phone in a real touney match I'd take the round,although I know Foamy wouldn't do that in a real match,just an example.

Dreddybajs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEVqjLJgyb4

bush

Ive had my phone ring during matches in the torunaments, I just ring back when im done.
I think there should be an option of disabling pause for vs matches anyway.

Dreddybajs

Yeah, that'd be a nice feature - dunno if it would be possible to also disable the home/Guide buttons though. I'll just have to start remembering to hit the button lock on the SE. :pac:

L31mr0d

I voted 28/11

Don't really mind December though, but would prefer it sooner rather than later.

In regards to pausing, I think the actual players should have some say in the matter. If someone pauses the game by accident during an Ultra animation or something like that it should be up to the other player to decide whether it justified the round being forfeited. Like if someone paused the game during a combo or during a crossup or if it happened more than once then I'd want the round forfeited.

Jim

Cobelcog wrote: »

Sounds good. I should be able to make it down for either of those dates.

Excellent. I finally pulled off c.spike - FADC - ultra btw! But not before Dreddy casually picked up the pad and pulled it off before me

Regarding the pause rule, the rule should be there to settle disputes, but ultimately it should be down to the other player if they want to take the round or not.

ayjayirl

Doctor DooM wrote: »

A charge character is generally thinking 2 or three steps ahead and it's very rare for the sticks position to be unimportant. There should be some deterrant to stop people from abusing that.

That said, I've never and would never demand a forfeit unless it was clearly obvious someone was doing it to throw me off.

good to know:D

Orim

Voted for the 5th.

As said there is a tekken tournament on the 28th and I believe there is a COD tournament on that day as well.

The pause rule is there in case of disputes. While most people will generally let it and just play on or restart, it's nice to have it there for any issues. For example if I hit EX legs while I have Ultra and someone pauses, I'm going to ask them to forfeit that round.

Dreddybajs

Total fluke though Jim, was literally only able to do it once!

Doctor DooM

ayjayirl wrote: »

good to know:D

Do it in a tournament and I WILL make you forfeit, cos it's you.

Sagat06

So I'm pretty sure we can put the pause thing to bed... the common consensus seems to be that it is at the discretion of the 'victim'. I would lean towards this, because only the person it happens to can say if it affected their strategy etc etc... because if its open to majority rules or anything like that you will get people disagreeing and chaos will ensue!!

Dreddybajs

For it to be at the discretion of the other player we need to have a rule on it anyway though. Honestly it's whoever is running the tournament that makes the decision, but they can be lenient if the other player doesn't think it should be punished (which I'm pretty sure is how we've already been doing things).

FoamyMushroom

I wont have my phone turned on during the next tourney or casual so no more pausing hah I thought it was the call for a job... tis why I paused.. lol

Placebo

FoamyMushroom wrote: »

I wont have my phone turned on during the next tourney or casual so no more pausing hah I thought it was the call for a job... tis why I paused.. lol

i think pausers showed be banned from next tourney

Doctor DooM

I think everyone is agreeing.

Sagat06

Dreddybajs wrote: »

For it to be at the discretion of the other player we need to have a rule on it anyway though. Honestly it's whoever is running the tournament that makes the decision, but they can be lenient if the other player doesn't think it should be punished (which I'm pretty sure is how we've already been doing things).

Who's running the tournament should decide if the rule is in place, but having them decide on the severity of a pause and if it should be punished is getting into a real dark area. Plus you would need that person to be officiating on each and every game in case it happens!

Dreddybajs

Yeah, which ideally should be happening anyway (also to enforce double blind selection if that's wished for by the players). The organisers of the compeition should always have the final say on the rules, not the players - like pretty much every respectable competition.

Basically every pause should be punished regardless of circumstance unless the other player speaks up by default. As seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQKT4KVoHM4

Obviously Jodo (Fuerte) is in an incredibly advantageous position, but he broke the rules, and lost the round by default. If the other player had spoken up and said nah, let's just go on, then do it, but otherwise he broke the rule and gets the punishment. Pretty much how it works in every respectable SF tournament afaik.

Sagat06

I concede to your logic Dreddy, my suggestion keeps things too casual.

If you want to be taken seriously you have to do things right!!