Anyone else still holding out?

humanji

funkyjebus wrote: »

]
Not at all mate, if a game doesn't have features you want then you don't hold out or boycott it, thats stupid. You get something else or make do.

If you wanted a car, and you liked everything about it, but it didn't let say have a/c would you boycott the manufacture so that they might listen to your crys.

No you deal with no a/c or keep looking for another car. Thats life, sh1ts never perfect, don't moan and cry about it. Where do you stop, Tesco didn't have my flavour of Jam....BOYCOTT!!

Silly, Silly, Silly

If you want a correct analogy, imagine you went and bought a car. A fancy new BMW with all the bells and whistles. After a while, the car is old and you want to buy a new one. The last BMW you had was great, so you think about getting another one. You go the the dealer only to find that the new BMW has no engine. Instead it has a hole in the floor for you to stick your feet through like a Flintstones car.

Your idea is to simply buy another car from somewhere else.

The boycotters idea is to buy a another car from somewhere else while also telling the dealer that the reason you're not buying the new BMW is because it has no engine, which is one of the main draws of the old car.

See? The difference is that by kicking up a stink it lets IW know what the problem is. Otherwise they'd just have low sales and no idea that anyone had a problem with it.

funkyjebus

humanji wrote: »

If you want a correct analogy, imagine you went and bought a car. A fancy new BMW with all the bells and whistles. After a while, the car is old and you want to buy a new one. The last BMW you had was great, so you think about getting another one. You go the the dealer only to find that the new BMW has no engine. Instead it has a hole in the floor for you to stick your feet through like a Flintstones car.

Your idea is to simply buy another car from somewhere else.

The boycotters idea is to buy a another car from somewhere else while also telling the dealer that the reason you're not buying the new BMW is because it has no engine, which is one of the main draws of the old car.

See? The difference is that by kicking up a stink it lets IW know what the problem is. Otherwise they'd just have low sales and no idea that anyone had a problem with it.

No I prefer my analogy. Your is like getting the game opening the box and there is no disc inside. Doesn't work if you ask me.

So can I ask how you are letting IW know? Actually I don't care, I'm goning to go play some MW2 and enjoy myself.

robby^5

Holding out myself, will buy it if dedicated servers are brought in alongside IWnet... which btw I think is a good feature, I'd use when one of usual servers had no one playing or was down etc.

humanji

funkyjebus wrote: »

No I prefer my analogy. Your is like getting the game opening the box and there is no disc inside. Doesn't work if you ask me.

So can I ask how you are letting IW know? Actually I don't care, I'm goning to go play some MW2 and enjoy myself.

Actually, I've bought the game and am loving it. I was trying to explain the point or others that feel that telling the company why you're not buying the game is better than simply not buying the game. One way will let IW know what is wrong with it and one way won't.

And I think you took my analogy too literally.

r3nu4l

I've deleted some PC versus Console drivel. Keep the thread on-topic, thanks

Steffano2002

Steffano2002 wrote: »

You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.

Indeed, but seeing as his opinion is based on his experience of actually playing the game, and yours isn't (I'm assuming you haven't played it), then who's opionion do you reckon holds more water?

luas_dublin wrote: »

the TLDR of it is ,
If you're a console gamer it's great.
If you're a PC gamer avoid.

No, its not. There are plenty of PC gamers on this thread telling people that its a great game.

Lord Nikon

There's nothing out there to compete(in my opinion) with COD4. PC gamers look forward to MF2 because they were expecting more of the same.

More of the same is, exact same layout including dedi servers/console/mods, because seriously that's what kept COD4 popular for so long.

A few tweaks should have been thrown in, new maps, new weapons, etc. This is what people want, not full on game changes.

MF2 will not have the sell-by-date as COD4, for reasons shown above.

PS. Console FPS players will never be as dedicated as PC FPS players. PC is completely different, and better.

r3nu4l

Firstly, enough with the PC vs Console stuff, LAST WARNING

neuromancer wrote: »

More of the same is, exact same layout including dedi servers/console/mods, because seriously that's what kept COD4 popular for so long.

A few tweaks should have been thrown in, new maps, new weapons, etc. This is what people want, not full on game changes.

So, in effect, all you want is for IW to release some DLC maps and weapons for COD4...

As we're mostly online players here and just discussing the online farce we tend to forget that MW2 also has a single-player mission and a huge amount of people are buying it just for that!

Now despite the fact that this forum and others are made up of dedicated PC players who want nothing more than a Promod version of this game you should remember that there are still millions of PC gamers who have no interest in Promod and are quite happy with the game. Promod are very much in the minority as are those who aren't happy with the changes. Sure, it's a vocal minority and it has mobilised well but it's still nevertheless the minority.

However, those that choose to hold out should be respected for that protest as it might just make developers think again next time around or may make them cash in and charge extra for a version that contains all the features that are now missing from the game :pac:

For those of you who are holding out...would you pay more for a version that allowed you all the features that have now been taken away?

Hercule

if we got dedicated servers, mod tools, a reliable anticheat, a functional console - I would run to the shops and buy the game now, id pay €60 for it and wouldnt blink (knowing full well I would get 100s of hours out of it (it looks fantastic))

But its not going to happen :rolleyes: so instead I will look forward to Battlefield BC2, Heroes of Newerth and Alien vs Predator

the_syco

Stil in two minds about it. May get the off-line demo from skidrow, or the disc from HMV. Will probably get it on Friday, and install it at Gamecon. Was thinking about holding out, but BF43 and Bad Company 2 aren't out until next year, so going to buy it to see how it handles.

I'm told that there are wallhacks, and aimbots already released for this. If the history of how sh|te VAC is, I don't see these problems being fixed anytime soon. But every cloud has its sliver lining, right? Maybe if it's so easy to hack, someone may make a dedicated server for it. Unlikely, but I live in hope.

Lord Nikon

r3nu4l wrote: »

For those of you who are holding out...would you pay more for a version that allowed you all the features that have now been taken away?

Yes, I would pay 70 squids easy. 60euro for COD4 and 900 hours play later, I think it's paid for itself easy.

the_syco

neuromancer wrote: »

Yes, I would pay 70 squids easy. 60euro for COD4 and 900 hours play later, I think it's paid for itself easy.

€40 in HMV, but sold out in Liffey Valley, Henry Street, Grafton Street and Blachardstown Shopping Centre Have a €20 voucher for HMV, so it'll cost me €20 for it. Sadly, won't have it for the LAN. As neuromancer said, yes, if it had dedicated server and punkbuster, I'd pay an extra €20 for it.

BeansBeans

Deleted User wrote: »

Indeed, but seeing as his opinion is based on his experience of actually playing the game, and yours isn't (I'm assuming you haven't played it), then who's opionion do you reckon holds more water?




No, its not. There are plenty of PC gamers on this thread telling people that its a great game.

Ah please its a pathetic excuse for a game, 4 hour single player with generic story. Dont use the multiplayer excuse either it doesnt cut it with so many cutbacks. Besides if they wanted a proper multiplayer game they shouldnt have insulted us with that sp and followed the example of Battlefield 2/2142/1942 or Warhawk with a properly fleshed out large scale multiplayer.

joseph brand

neuromancer wrote: »

Yes, I would pay 70 squids easy. 60euro for COD4 and 900 hours play later, I think it's paid for itself easy.

Is that all??

Lord Nikon

joseph brand wrote: »

Is that all??

Time played or price willing to pay?

Blazer

still laughing over whoever posted "suck a lemon douchebag"

Cuddlesworth

humanji wrote: »

If you want a correct analogy, imagine you went and bought a car. A fancy new BMW with all the bells and whistles. After a while, the car is old and you want to buy a new one. The last BMW you had was great, so you think about getting another one. You go the the dealer only to find that the new BMW has no engine. Instead it has a hole in the floor for you to stick your feet through like a Flintstones car.

Your idea is to simply buy another car from somewhere else.

The boycotters idea is to buy a another car from somewhere else while also telling the dealer that the reason you're not buying the new BMW is because it has no engine, which is one of the main draws of the old car.

See? The difference is that by kicking up a stink it lets IW know what the problem is. Otherwise they'd just have low sales and no idea that anyone had a problem with it.

I like the analogy but I'm going to take it a bit further.

Imagine you went and bought a car. A fancy new BMW with all the bells and whistles. After a while, the car is old and you want to buy a new one. The last BMW you had was great, so you think about getting another one. You go the the dealer to find that the new BMW looked even better then your last. So you throw your money at the salesman and drive off.

On the way home you notice that little things you took for granted would be there like air-con and power steering but aren't. As you start to think about it you realise you have been ripped off but can't do anything about it as if you had checked you would have found this out.

The next time you go to buy a car your going to go elsewhere. And the percieved image of the product drops down a few pegs in peoples eyes.


This game is going to be huge on the PC for IW and they are going to do it again with the next one. And its then that they will relise that people don't like have things they took for granted taken away.


In case anybody asks, I like my pc and console games but I prefer to play fps games on my pc. I decided not to buy this game, a few of my friends did. The ones that have been gaming on the pc a while have decided they don't like it. The flow of the games are ruined, the constant drops outs of the host being a huge problem. The new pc gamers who also have xbox's seem to like it. I can understand why, they are used to that **** system from the xbox and don't really know any better.

partyatmygaff

I'm getting it for the PS3 as it suits consoles better, I'm still going to play COD4 on the pc alongside with cs source and BF2, the only reason those now almost 6 year old games are still being played (Hell even CS 1.6 is still played by alot of people and thats over 10 years old) is purely for the customization allowed. Battlefield 2 were the first to introduce a ranking system and that is why it was and still is so successful, The maps were huge, You had dedicated servers and the gameplay itself was superb in every single way, it didn't need any single player campaign to sell itself, Though BF2 was the buggiest game I had ever played and it took me 6 tries to get into a game it was still a great game. CSS needs no introduction when it comes to its customization, the whole online play of CSS defines what multiplayer PC FPS games should all aspire to be, Nothing has topped CSS yet. In this day and age when a console game on the PS3 (MAG) can have a total of 256 players at one time why can't a pc game have more than 18?

robby^5

http://kotaku.com/5403286/what-modern-warfare-2-boycotters-are-playing

Oh dear...this isnt going well.

Liamario

I think this image says it all about this "boycott"

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6062/1258035395841.jpg

I mean did people really believe the boycott would last?

Bhoy_

Onearmedbandit wrote: »

My obvious ignorance? If you look at my posting history you will see I have previously posted on the topic. I am aware of the various items that were on COD4 that are not on the current version. My point is that even in the case of the PC version it does not make it a poor gaming experience.

I am sure that the game would be a better one with the previous functionality that COD 4 had and I admire your principles but I don't agree that it is an "insult to gaming" as you so put it.

Sorry If I offended you. I really can't comprehend how you can't see this as a insult to PC gaming at the very least. Next they will make you use a controller and no keyboard and mouse (over exaggeration win).

It might not be a poor gaming experience, but it's nothing I'd expect of a sequel. You learn from mistakes and your accomplishments. Their online play was almost perfect in CoD4.

In saying that I've only had limited experience with the game, but the reason I really hate Xbox FPS's (expect for the clunky aiming) is the match making/host system they use. The reason I play on the PC.

Steffano2002

Mhhh... How can I reply to people who think we're missing out by not buying MW2...

Well, first off, if you think we're missing out then you basically haven't got a clue about what it is we look for in FPS Games. Unlike you I don't play CoD "for the laugh" (it happens, especially when we do a boards bash). I see this as an "eSport". This is the way "we" (the people who will not buy this game) see these "games". "We" have a huge community. We play in ladders, cups and tournaments and we try to be the best at it.

You guys on the other hand just want a fun game to play with your mates and have fun. Well we have fun by having more serious competitions.

Funny thinkg is, I understand your point of view and I understand why you bought MW2. But could you please do the same for us? Why do I have to read things such as "to label the game as crap is just pathetic", "to brand MW2 crap without playing it is just mindless and blind ignorance", "missing out because of a stupid reason", "Its a bit of a joke TBH", "Telling like it is to all the sulking girls" etc etc.

Lads, you just don't "get it". The majority of us have been playing CoD since Day 1 in clans with our own dedicated server that we pay for. What IW / Activision did with MW2 is inexcusable as far as we're concerned.

So stop judging us. Respect our decision and move on.

Toosey

whatever guys..I dont play any games on pc and really dont care all I know I loved modern warfare 1 and 2 has so far been brilliant...If the new one doesnt float your boat just play the last COD4 as even though the new one is good I still think COD4 is on a par with it..clasic...

PogMoThoin

Liamario wrote: »

I think this image says it all about this "boycott"

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6062/1258035395841.jpg

I mean did people really believe the boycott would last?

How many bought it though?

Dcully

Why do I have to read things such as "to label the game as crap is just pathetic", "to brand MW2 crap without playing it is just mindless and blind ignorance"

Well it is stupid for someone to judge the game and say it sucks when they havent played it, i mean thats just plain silly.
Did you ever stop to think there may be a very good game lurking in there?

So stop judging us. Respect our decision and move on.

Exactly my point, you and a few more on here say its a crap game because it hasnt got dedi servers,the rest of us have moved on and gone and got the game and are enjoying it.
Constant sneering of the game from some on boards when they havent played it is not respecting the decision of those that purchased.

Lads, you just don't "get it". The majority of us have been playing CoD since Day 1 in clans with our own dedicated server that we pay for.

I get it alright.
Yes im one of this majority you speak of.
Im simply getting on with it and enjoying the game for what it is - fun , nothing more nothing less

Steffano i think most on here fully agree with you and others plight with MW2 but sometimes it gets tiresome to see people that never played the game call it rubbish.
Thats my point in a nutshell,now lets all get along

Burgo

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1022952

Bhoy_

Dcully wrote: »

Well it is stupid for someone to judge the game and say it sucks when they havent played it, i mean thats just plain silly.
Did you ever stop to think there may be a very good game lurking in there?



Exactly my point, you and a few more on here say its a crap game because it hasnt got dedi servers,the rest of us have moved on and gone and got the game and are enjoying it.
Constant sneering of the game from some on boards when they havent played it is not respecting the decision of those that purchased.



I get it alright.
Yes im one of this majority you speak of.
Im simply getting on with it and enjoying the game for what it is - fun , nothing more nothing less

Steffano i think most on here fully agree with you and others plight with MW2 but sometimes it gets tiresome to see people that never played the game call it rubbish.
Thats my point in a nutshell,now lets all get along

I don't think you interpreted what he said the way he meant it. I think he isn't calling MW2 a bad game, but instead, what you think is fun; casual rounds with friends, unlocking the your next upgrade or the single player, is different to his. Steffano, like myself, enjoy competition in our games and eventhough I never really got into the competitive side of CoD4, I played CS:S, bf2 and 2142 quite competitively. I was looking forward to MW2, a new beginning, to find a new clan and start to some skirmishes and then on to league/cup games. Without Dedicated servers this isn't going to happen or is going to be very difficult/awkward to setup.

bassbomber

hahahahahaha your gonna get ur ass handed to you on a plate for making a quote like that insult???? jesus no if anything u are the insult to this fine game ignorance my friend is aa dangerous thing

Steffano2002

bassbomber wrote: »

hahahahahaha your gonna get ur ass handed to you on a plate for making a quote like that insult???? jesus no if anything u are the insult to this fine game ignorance my friend is aa dangerous thing

Banned for a month for having nothing interesting to say...

wayne040576

Burgo wrote: »

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1022952

Ah Yes. More people "boycotting" the game by downloading pirated versions of it. Sends a great message. And basically makes a mockery of anyone left who is really boycotting and not pirating the game. As I tried to explain in my 3 previous posts that have mysteriously vanished.