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The first move

  • 05-11-2009 4:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭miss_feminem


    Sorry if this has been done to death before but ...

    Ladies, how do you feel about making the first move?

    Do you expect men to do all the "chasing"?

    Personally, I asked my b/f out - he thought I was messing at first but eventually realised I was serious.

    And gentlemen, how would you react if a lady made the first move?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I would love if a woman made the first move personally. I am quite, shy isn't the correct word but I guess nervous might be. I find it hard to build the courage to even talk to a girl I don't know and when I do I say stupid things.

    But if someone starts talking to me, I am usually pretty good with witty remarks back and wahtnot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭miss_feminem


    I would love if a woman made the first move personally. I am quite, shy isn't the correct word but I guess nervous might be. I find it hard to build the courage to even talk to a girl I don't know and when I do I say stupid things.

    But if someone starts talking to me, I am usually pretty good with witty remarks back and wahtnot.

    That's the other question. Do you find women to be a bit intimidating? I know a few lads who think that women will just say no (or worse) if they approach them so they don't bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    That's the other question. Do you find women to be a bit intimidating? I know a few lads who think that women will just say no (or worse) if they approach them so they don't bother.

    No, I don't. I love women, and in general I am not intimidated by them.

    I am just someone with quite low self-esteem alot of the time. (Except when naked which is weird I think :P) And I am deadly afraid of rejection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭miss_feminem


    No, I don't. I love women, and in general I am not intimidated by them.

    I am just someone with quite low self-esteem alot of the time. (Except when naked which is weird I think :P) And I am deadly afraid of rejection.

    Well maybe intimidating is a bit strong a word.

    Haha, well I'd suggest not approaching women naked even if it does make you more corfortable ;) :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Well maybe intimidating is a bit strong a word.

    Haha, well I'd suggest not approaching women naked even if it does make you more corfortable ;) :P

    You only suggest that because you haven't seen me naked ;)

    Ah, I can get over it on occasion but usually much too scared.


    I would love a woman to approach me because it belays all these fears and shows she is Assertive. I like Assertive!!!


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    I want to be woo-ed.

    I would lose interest if a man needed me to chase after him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    Personally, I'm terrified of making the first move. I find the thought of approaching a guy (in any environment) quite daunting.

    I know it's silly, but I'm scared of being rejected or laughed at. Every time I think about approaching a guy, part of me goes back to negative past experiences that knocked my confidence and just puts me off.

    I admire anyone who has the guts to go up to someone they like and start a conversation or ask them out.
    I don't think I'd ever be brave enough!

    Because of my understanding of how difficult it can be to approach someone, I'm always nice to people who approach me, whether I have an interest in them or not. It's nice to be polite and give someone the time of day, considering they've made the effort to approach you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    happend to me last weekend put a smile on my face i started the convo she got forward and deiced i was isrestable.. :pac:

    Its nice to see when women get forward..when there hangin out of you so seductivly kinda sexy to.... so yeah..

    I thin if women want = right they got make an effort to :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    I've made a few first moves in my time. I'm not totally comfortable with them, just because you normally don't know if the other person is involved with someone, and I would hate to infringe, even if it was in total ignorance.
    I've never had a guy be mean or react badly though. That said, it's also never led to a relationship and only led to date once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    I've made the first move a good few times. Actually, most of the time now that I think about it.

    I'm very forward. The rejection is hard to take but I have no patience and hate messing around. I prefer to take control of my own life.


    Here's a couple of examples (though I guess technically I didn't make the very first move in the first one as I was fairly sure he was interested).

    I got chatting to a guy in a bar and it turns out he lives next door to a friend of mine. I had to leave in a hurry so didn't get the chance to say goodbye or swap numbers but was fairly sure he was interested. It was coming up to Easter so I got an easter card, wrote a quick message saying it had been lovely talking to him (explained who I was) put my number on it and dropped it in his letter box :D He replied and we saw each other for a few weeks.
    My last long term relationship, we were good friends first and shared a house. I got drunk one night and got back in from clubbing, went up to his bedroom and got into bed fully clothed beside him for a cuddle. We went out for 7 years.

    I'm fairly brazen. Sometimes it scares boys off, sometimes they love it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Any key?


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I want to be woo-ed.

    I would lose interest if a man needed me to chase after him.

    +1 :)

    the chase is the best part. I tried the approch once on a lad I really fancied only to find he had a girlfriend.Morto......never again.

    I have a new found respect for all men since that day and always humour a lads If they approach now regardless.Sure If you don't practice flirting you might forget how ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Shaws


    This is what I want to know

    There is this guy who works on my floor, I don't really have much contact with him, so I kinda, sorta made up a query to ask him, to start the flow. So last week there was a bit of flirting going on and I asked him where he went out and he said some crap place so I said I'd have to bring him out with me some night to show him how it's done, bla bla, he said he might take me up on my offer....
    ....so anyway, then this wk I emailed him again, continuing on from last wk but I didn't get much response, so then I sent him some forward mails, with a question, like oh did you get this one bla, bla, but then he'd reply ya or no basically.

    So then today, I was going to email him my number and ask him out but then I chicken out.

    What will I do? Will I ask him out or is it too late for this wknd or will I wait for next wknd or will I just give up!!!

    Please help!!:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭RealEstateKing


    would absolutely love it if girls came on to them. Or at least if they make it more obvious that they want you to come onto them - thats one thing that is culturally lacking here in Ireland: Many of our native ladies give you zero 'vibe' to let you know they're interested (even when they are) , they are often either putting out a defensive vibe or are just sort of 'blank', you know, polite and nice, but with no indication of interest or not.

    Thus, of course, you feel a bit like you're going out on a limb when you have to make the first move.

    As a result of this rather frosty culture being the norm, I think that vast majority of Irish guys would be overjoyed if the ladies showed a little more interest.

    Generally speaking, a little unknown thing about men (Irish or otherwise) is this: If an attractive guy comes on to a girl in the wrong way - i.e. is too sleazy/too shy/says the wrong thing/or does it at the wrong time or the wrong place, the woman may as a result not find him attractive.

    With men, we either find you attractive or we dont, if you're nervous, spill your drink on a guy/or make a total klutz out of yourself, if we find you attractive it wont make a bit of difference. So what have you got to lose?

    I think lots of girls over-complicated these things, by assuming that men think like women and that thus there are all sorts of hidden complexities going on in how we respond. There arent, we either find you attractive or we dont. If you're attractive, you insecurities will seem charming and cute to us and it wont matter what clumsy method you use to come on to us, you'll score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    Strangely, the idea that a girl could actually approach the guy in a pub/club situation only occured to me the other day! I've never made the first move before, kinda want to try it out now though! No idea what I'd say though!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Mariana Delightful Computer


    I have no interest in game playing, letting a man "do the chasing". I get a shock every time I hear (unfortunately often) 'oh I couldn't ask a guy out! i just couldn't! *simper* "
    There's no need about it, either ask someone you fancy out or don't. And if you don't, don't sit around for ages agonising "didn't he like me?"
    God, I really have no patience for that rubbish.
    I also don't know how people post about not being able to deal with rejection as if guys don't have to deal with it all the time.
    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I want to be woo-ed.

    I would lose interest if a man needed me to chase after him.

    So how do you deal with the converse? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭Censorsh!t


    I'm not a confident person, and have quite low self esteem, so I think making the first move is almost out of the question for me! I'm too scared to be rejected really.

    I know that I could make it clearer to people i like, in fairness. But, it is pretty hard to try be confident when you're not.

    Plus, I like guys making a good effort =) Not that I expect it of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭winking weber


    Bluewolf I'd agree with you but unfortunately, it rarely seems to work like that.

    I've asked guys out before or made it clear that I'm interested but I'm beginning to think that an element of game playing is often necessary and you cant seem too available. A lot of men like to think theres a prize to be won.

    So while I'm proactive about getting to know people and making contact, I'll be slow enough to actually ask anyone out again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I don't expect men to do all the chasing at all. That said, I am really shy and I'd find it extremely difficult to approach a guy I didn't know.

    I wouldn't say I'm the sort of person who needs a guy woo-ing me. If I find a guy I like and we're at the friend stage of things, I'm generally not too bad at taking things from there. It's just the first approach I am terrified of!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I used to have no problem making the 1st move and starting a conversation at least until about a year n a half ago.Never really came across many bitchy girls but even a lot of polite rejections still get the head down.
    Now its a damn rare occasion I make the 1st move and takes me a while to get to that stage so id be both shocked and delighted at a girl making it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Dothehustle


    yes i would love girls to make the first move something very sexy about a confident girl plus i am very shy and feel very awkward going up to girls i dont know and trying to make small talk
    and yes i hate small talk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭XxXciaraxXx


    If you like something go get it! I am very straight forward with stuff! I made the first move with my now o/h, five years later we bought a house together and are planning our wedding!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'm beginning to think that an element of game playing is often necessary and you cant seem too available. A lot of men like to think theres a prize to be won.
    I would agree. I would also say its mostly insecure men. The guys who wont make the first move are often the guys who'll freak out if the woman does. The guys who think they're in "control", ditto. Again insecurity.

    Secure men aren't that pushed who makes the move. Its the end result that counts.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    The way I look at it is, I'll make the first move if it feels right. I'll be upfront and to the point and forward if it feels like the right thing with the right person.

    In RL i'd be fairly upfront, direct and to the point anyway. So if I guy is put off by me making the first move, well I doubt he'd be able for me long term. I need someone who is able to take me pretty much as I am, directness and all! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Mackleton


    So a hypothetical scenario here then:

    A nice looking girl is out on the town, she's dancing with the girls and spots a nice looking guy over by the bar.
    I want to know how the following course of action would be received by said nice looking guy:

    A) She gives him the eye then looks away, she does this again, maybe she does it a third time but nothing more. What does he do?

    B) She casually walks up and says "Hi there, what's your name? What do you think of this place? etc and finally asks "Do you have a girlfriend?"

    Now supposing he has a GF, how does he handle this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Mackleton wrote: »
    So a hypothetical scenario here then:

    A nice looking girl is out on the town, she's dancing with the girls and spots a nice looking guy over by the bar.
    I want to know how the following course of action would be received by said nice looking guy:

    A) She gives him the eye then looks away, she does this again, maybe she does it a third time but nothing more. What does he do?

    B) She casually walks up and says "Hi there, what's your name? What do you think of this place? etc and finally asks "Do you have a girlfriend?"

    Now supposing he has a GF, how does he handle this?

    In the first case what does he do? No GF, then he (he being me) in this scenario checks to see if there is something on my shirt. Seeing nothing, I convince myself there must be something!
    have a GF, Realise she's giving me the eyes and curse myself for having morals! :(

    Second Situation.
    No GF, chat her up.
    Yes GF. Politely but discreetly drop that he has a GF. Be VERY VERY Nice about turning her down, it takes balls to chat someone up!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Mackleton


    In the first case what does he do? No GF, then he (he being me) in this scenario checks to see if there is something on my shirt. Seeing nothing, I convince myself there must be something!
    have a GF, Realise she's giving me the eyes and curse myself for having morals! :(

    Second Situation.
    No GF, chat her up.
    Yes GF. Politely but discreetly drop that he has a GF. Be VERY VERY Nice about turning her down, it takes balls to chat someone up!!!

    Nicely handled;)

    I'm asking coz two friends of mine were the inspiration for those on our last night out (both girls)

    Girl A, even though she is stunning and really nice to boot, got totally ignored.
    Girl B, who is pretty but nicer than girl A, got spectacularly rejected, as in he basically smirked and said, excessively loudly in my opinion, "Sorry love, I'm washing my hair tonight!" (Cue idiot friends laughing in the background)

    I witnessed all of this because I was standing talking to a guy close by. The poor girl was mortified, needless to say that will be her last attempt at chatting anyone up! I swear some guys have all the sensitivity of a clothes peg!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Mackleton wrote: »
    Nicely handled;)

    I'm asking coz two friends of mine were the inspiration for those on our last night out (both girls)

    Girl A, even though she is stunning and really nice to boot, got totally ignored.
    Girl B, who is pretty but nicer than girl A, got spectacularly rejected, as in he basically smirked and said, excessively loudly in my opinion, "Sorry love, I'm washing my hair tonight!" (Cue idiot friends laughing in the background)

    I witnessed all of this because I was standing talking to a guy close by. The poor girl was mortified, needless to say that will be her last attempt at chatting anyone up! I swear some guys have all the sensitivity of a clothes peg!

    Aw please tell me this didn't happen in Cork? Please???

    What a cnut!!! Washing his hair in a shower of the golden kind!!!

    I have heard lads mocking girls after the fact, but straight to her face!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    Mackleton wrote: »
    So a hypothetical scenario here then:

    B) She casually walks up and says "Hi there, what's your name? What do you think of this place? etc and finally asks "Do you have a girlfriend?"

    Now supposing he has a GF, how does he handle this?

    In my 24 years in this life I have never heard of any girl making such an approach in Situation B.

    My personal experiences are all different and from them all I realised one thing. Being yourself will bring more success than going "On the pull"
    I never approach a girl with the entention of pulling them. If I somehow start talking to them or they approach me and say something I will always just be myself and if we are attracted and it works then it works! Im a firm believer in whatever happens happens for a reason!!!

    As for Women asking blokes out! Winking Weber has hit the nail on the head! If a girl has a problem with getting what they want they should do nearly everything to tell him without having to ask and dent your confidence. The rest is fate!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    I would love if a woman made the first move personally. I am quite, shy isn't the correct word but I guess nervous might be. I find it hard to build the courage to even talk to a girl I don't know and when I do I say stupid things.

    But if someone starts talking to me, I am usually pretty good with witty remarks back and wahtnot.

    I'm the exact same. I'm a shy little pup and I'd much prefer if the girl came upto me.

    However alla this post:
    Fago_25 wrote: »
    ...And I asked a girl I like out. She said yeah. Date on Friday woo. :)

    Sorry ladies. ;)

    I finally asked a girl out, which is totally out of character for me. She said yeah, but as of today, she bottled it. I'm proud of myself for doing it though.

    Now I'm not that afraid of asking a girl out or making the first move on a night out.

    Just do it. If she/he rejects, get on with it, and approach another person.

    As someone, somewhere, sometime said
    "If you're not in it, you can't win it"

    A girl I asked out a while ago asked me why I asked her out. I said that and she LOVED it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Generally, I like a girl who has the confidence to make the first move and when it's happened in the past, I've been pretty impressed.

    Lately, I don't like it so much. But that's often cos I'm scared that the girl would want it to 'go somewhere' and I'm not mad on being not single right now. But that's a separate issue, really.

    I guess I do like a bit of a chase but I don't wanna be chasing my tail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    Mackleton wrote: »
    So a hypothetical scenario here then:

    A nice looking girl is out on the town, she's dancing with the girls and spots a nice looking guy over by the bar.
    I want to know how the following course of action would be received by said nice looking guy:

    A) She gives him the eye then looks away, she does this again, maybe she does it a third time but nothing more. What does he do?

    B) She casually walks up and says "Hi there, what's your name? What do you think of this place? etc and finally asks "Do you have a girlfriend?"

    Now supposing he has a GF, how does he handle this?


    I'd go for option C. I'm brazen but not that brazen!

    Option C / she goes over to the bar to order a drink and squeezes past where he is standing to get to the bar, preferably having to ask him to move nicely so she can get in. She orders 3 or more drinks and pays, picks up 2 and asks him to watch the other one. Drops the drinks over to her friends and goes back for the rest.
    If he is in away way interested he'll talk to her when she gets back. If not, no harm. Move onto the next one.

    Alternatives are asking them can you put your coat on the chair beside them, asking for a light, asking where the bathrooms are, asking where the hot spot in town is (even if you know all these things or have them already ):D

    To me, thats making the first move. I wouldn't like the direct approach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!



    But that's often cos I'm scared that the girl would want it to 'go somewhere'

    I guess I do like a bit of a chase but I don't wanna be chasing my tail.

    Is that 'coz you're to akin to you username?

    I guess I do like a bit of a chase but I don't wanna be chasing my tail.

    Like him?

    chasingtail1.jpg


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    bluewolf wrote: »

    So how do you deal with the converse? :confused:

    If I had particularly noticed someone, but they were confident enough to make a move. I would give it serious consideration purely because I was impressed by their cahones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭miss_feminem


    Many of our native ladies give you zero 'vibe' to let you know they're interested.

    LOL :D I know soooo many women who think they're making it blatantly obvious (without actually saying it) that they're interested in a guy, but the guy just doesn't seem to realise this. Is it true that hints don't work with men and just being direct and speaking out is the best approach?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭miss_feminem


    Mackleton wrote: »
    Nicely handled;)

    I'm asking coz two friends of mine were the inspiration for those on our last night out (both girls)

    Girl A, even though she is stunning and really nice to boot, got totally ignored.
    Girl B, who is pretty but nicer than girl A, got spectacularly rejected, as in he basically smirked and said, excessively loudly in my opinion, "Sorry love, I'm washing my hair tonight!" (Cue idiot friends laughing in the background)

    I witnessed all of this because I was standing talking to a guy close by. The poor girl was mortified, needless to say that will be her last attempt at chatting anyone up! I swear some guys have all the sensitivity of a clothes peg!

    But women do this all the time as well. I've seen girls throw drinks in guys faces just because they went up to them and said hello. It's tough on both sides which is why I don't think either side should be expected to do all the work :D


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    ash23 wrote: »
    I'd go for option C. I'm brazen but not that brazen!

    Option C / she goes over to the bar to order a drink and squeezes past where he is standing to get to the bar, preferably having to ask him to move nicely so she can get in. She orders 3 or more drinks and pays, picks up 2 and asks him to watch the other one. Drops the drinks over to her friends and goes back for the rest.
    If he is in away way interested he'll talk to her when she gets back. If not, no harm. Move onto the next one.

    Alternatives are asking them can you put your coat on the chair beside them, asking for a light, asking where the bathrooms are, asking where the hot spot in town is (even if you know all these things or have them already ):D

    To me, thats making the first move. I wouldn't like the direct approach.
    The problem there is that while most women would see that as obvious a helluva lot of men wouldn't. Even though I'd be pretty good at spotting that sort of thing, I wouldnt spot it if I wasnt looking for it if you know what I mean?

    Ask me for a light = ah shes looking for a light. The coat thing would completely pass me by without other signals. Looking for the loo = ah she needs a piddle, its over there on the left. The hot spot in town would have the most chance I reckon outa that lot. As for watching her drink at the bar? Well I must have the sexual magnetism of a bull, NOT :D because it would be a rare enough night where that wouldn't happen. 50/50 anyway. It would be a very rare night where with the exception of the hotspot convo, the others wouldn't happen. Jeez I must be missing openings all the time.:D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The problem there is that while most women would see that as obvious a helluva lot of men wouldn't. Even though I'd be pretty good at spotting that sort of thing, I wouldnt spot it if I wasnt looking for it if you know what I mean?

    Ask me for a light = ah shes looking for a light. The coat thing would completely pass me by without other signals. Looking for the loo = ah she needs a piddle, its over there on the left. The hot spot in town would have the most chance I reckon outa that lot. As for watching her drink at the bar? Well I must have the sexual magnetism of a bull, NOT :D because it would be a rare enough night where that wouldn't happen. 50/50 anyway. It would be a very rare night where with the exception of the hotspot convo, the others wouldn't happen. Jeez I must be missing openings all the time.:D

    Agreed. That's some overly subtle 'hints' right there. You'd really need to add in something else to that to get a (normal) guy to hook. Otherwise you're just gonna get chatted up by a guy who would have chatted you up anyway because he's been walking around chatting up every other girl he's seen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    Ah well Wibbs, thats just the ice breaker. It has to be followed up of course!!!

    For eg
    Asking him to watch the drinks.
    You head back to get the remaining one and then start up a conversation "oh thanks a million for minding the drinks, can I ask you a quick question? Myself and my friends are wondering where the best spot to head to after this is?" Him "oh club xyz"
    Her "oh great, are you going there after this?"
    Him "yes/no"
    Her "oh great, maybe I'll see you there?" or "oh well, thats a shame".
    At that point you walk and let him come running. Or not :D


    As for the coat thing, well same thing. You ask can you leave your coat. He says yes. You follow that up with some silly banter like "oooh, you're not going to charge me for that are you?" or "do I not get a ticket? What sort of cloakroom are you?" :D


    It's all in the banter!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    Meant to add, I think the best chat up I ever had was when a guy came over and pinched my arse. I turned around, about to clock him one, and the look on his face was priceless. He was so apologetic and said that some girl who looked just like me had grabbed his arse in the smoking garden and he was sure it was me (he knew me through friends).

    No idea if it was a line or not. Nothing happened that night but every time I saw him out after that I'd pinch his arse "for a laugh". ;) We ended up dating for a couple of months.
    So apparantly arse pinching by girls works too (even if I reaped the rewards of someone elses efforts!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    ash23 wrote: »
    Ah well Wibbs, thats just the ice breaker. It has to be followed up of course!!!

    For eg
    Asking him to watch the drinks.
    You head back to get the remaining one and then start up a conversation "oh thanks a million for minding the drinks, can I ask you a quick question? Myself and my friends are wondering where the best spot to head to after this is?" Him "oh club xyz"
    Her "oh great, are you going there after this?"
    Him "yes/no"
    Her "oh great, maybe I'll see you there" or "oh well, thats a shame".
    At that point you walk and let him come running. Or not :D


    As for the coat thing, well same thing. You ask can you leave your coat. He says yes. You follow that up with some silly banter like "oooh, you're not going to charge me for that are you?" or "do I not get a ticket? What sort of cloakroom are you?" :D


    It's all in the banter!

    Just the part I put in bold there, that would come across to me as a polite way of saying thanks and bye? I'd always heard about women are subtle when chatting up and men are a bit slow to notice but nearly all the examples on the thread would pass us guys by completely cos they sound more like someone being friendly, with no other overtones. Meh, best places to chat to someone are if there's a big queue at the bar or the smoking section IMO


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    Just the part I put in bold there, that would come across to me as a polite way of saying thanks and bye? I'd always heard about women are subtle when chatting up and men are a bit slow to notice but nearly all the examples on the thread would pass us guys by completely cos they sound more like someone being friendly, with no other overtones. Meh, best places to chat to someone are if there's a big queue at the bar or the smoking section IMO

    Jaysus, I dunno what more a girl can do. I'll have to start bringing out a wooden club, hitting guys over the head and dragging them back to my cave :D

    Gotta say, my tactics have never failed. Maybe I'm a bit more obvious in person, body language obviously plays a huge part too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭ZzubZzub


    I never thought about this! Never really understood women being afraid to chase their prey! ;)

    I made the first move with my fella. I had just been dumped really harshly (by text no less, after cheating!) after 4 years. We had worked together, and also with my now boyfriend. Always thought he was really sound and HAWWWWT but I was with the ex so that's as far as my thoughts went.

    When me and the ex broke up, I really wanted a shag. (Yes, I'm very classy!) so pursued this guy. I sent him a text "meant for someone else" so he knew I was single. On a work night out, we ended up kissing all night long, went back to his and we've been together over a year despite the fact I'm now studying in England!

    I have a few males friends who get terrified at the prospect of a girl approaching them! I dunno. It confuses me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Just the part I put in bold there, that would come across to me as a polite way of saying thanks and bye? I'd always heard about women are subtle when chatting up and men are a bit slow to notice but nearly all the examples on the thread would pass us guys by completely cos they sound more like someone being friendly, with no other overtones. Meh, best places to chat to someone are if there's a big queue at the bar or the smoking section IMO


    I think you're reading it as a statement as opposed to a query. Pretty sure there'd be that upward intonation at the end to let the guy know you wanted to see him there :D


    As for making first moves... if you don't ask, you don't get ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    I may have to make a complaint about this issue to the 'Equality Authority'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭MAB83


    I love when girls make the first move. I think it's great. Why not, if you like a guy and he's being too shy or taking too long then go for it!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Mariana Delightful Computer


    ash23 wrote: »
    to the bar, preferably having to ask him to move nicely so she can get in. She orders 3 or more drinks and pays, picks up 2 and asks him to watch the other one. Drops the drinks over to her friends and goes back for the rest.

    While the incidence of spiking is probably very low, would you really wanna try this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    so at what stage does a girl think it's fair to drag a guy along?? as in how much chasing is needed and well, why is it needed??
    i'm asking this cos of what was happening to me for about the past 6 months, a girl i met a couple of times in ireland last year (when i was living in a different country) who originally made the first move with me, used to text or call a lot, and then suddenly stop for a month or 6 weeks. when i gave up on her i'd go out and just by poxy luck, she'd text me out of the blue when i was on a date or something which just screwed my head for that date.
    anyway, when i moved home she started texting again out of the blue (completely ignoring the few months where there wasn't a word out of her) and since i had no ties at all, i asked her to meet up. this turned into a few working late or had to go home for family excuses, so in the end i just asked her straight out if she wanted to meet up or not, but not to be headfooking me. she said no, and we left it at that. until she called a week later to say she felt guilty and asked to meet me (that was about 6 weeks ago). i said grand, but didn't make a big deal out of it. but i stayed quiet on the whole texting, only then to get a text from her asking if i was ignoring her. mainly her texts were asking for advice cos of what i work at.
    by the way, we still haven't met!!

    now this girl knows i like her, she also knows that i'm pretty shyte at chatting someone up (even though i have punched WAAAAAYYY above my weight in the past!!) so she's wrecking my head. i haven't heard from her at all this week which is pretty unusual, so either her problem that she was asking about has cleared up, or she's finally realised that she was being a complete fooker to me.
    so... why do girls act like that?!! i chased, and chased. then when i didn't i got baited and made to look like the guilty one for not chasing. where does she stop?!!!

    and as for getting the guy to mind the drink, it reminds me of a clip from the it crowd, where the really geeky guy was asked to mind a girl's drink, and sniffed it and asked 'why does this smell of rohypnol?!!!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I think this thread has fcuked up my head more then any ive ever read :confused::confused:
    Now I dunno what to do :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I think this thread has fcuked up my head more then any ive ever read :confused::confused:
    Now I dunno what to do :(

    If you have the confidence, make the first move.

    If not.......well, I'll get back to ya when I know what to do myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Jako8


    I would love if a woman made the first move personally. I am quite, shy isn't the correct word but I guess nervous might be. I find it hard to build the courage to even talk to a girl I don't know and when I do I say stupid things.

    But if someone starts talking to me, I am usually pretty good with witty remarks back and wahtnot.

    What he said.


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