Motor tax fine and confiscation

learnerplates

My motortax is out by 30 days and I got caught last night for it, the guard said a 60euro fine but I didn't get the detail on how it should be paid, he mentioned a summons!! does anyone know the procedure.


He also mentioned that if the motortax had been out for more than 2 months he would have taken the car there and then, is 2 months now the maximum time without motortax.

EPM

Sounds like he was just using some common sense. There could be a very legitimate reason for it being a month out but2 months would be pulling the p1ss a bit so therefore he'd take more action then.

niceirishfella

You'll get a fixed penalty notice in the post.......pay it prompty, and you'll avoid a court appearance.

vectra

niceirishfella wrote: »

You'll get a fixed penalty notice in the post.......pay it prompty, and you'll avoid a court appearance.

And keep the tax up to date. No excuse for tax being out 30 days to be honest :rolleyes:

unkel

Technically, the Garda can confiscate the car if the tax is out by 2 months. In practice they tend not to do this, but if you're known to them, if you're rude, or if your tax is out by a long time, you might not be so lucky

omega man

What do you do if you just bought a car and are waiting for the VRC? Can i tax the car (from when i bought it) without the VRC? The tax on the car expired last June and i bought it last month (from a dealer).

vectra

omega man wrote: »

What do you do if you just bought a car and are waiting for the VRC? Can i tax the car (from when i bought it) without the VRC? The tax on the car expired last June and i bought it last month (from a dealer).

Happened me one time
Bought a car.
Drove it to town next day and parked it
came back and there were 3 tickets on my windscreen
No Tax
No Tax displayed.
No insurance disc displayed

Went to the station to explain and was told it sohuld not be on the road until in order.
Garda that slapped me was understanding and told me to appeal it to the super explaining the circumstances.
all charges were dropped with a letter saying to be more careful in future.

niceirishfella

vectra wrote: »

Happened me one time
Bought a car.
Drove it to town next day and parked it
came back and there were 3 tickets on my windscreen
No Tax
No Tax displayed.
No insurance disc displayed

Went to the station to explain and was told it sohuld not be on the road until in order.
Garda that slapped me was understanding and told me to appeal it to the super explaining the circumstances.
all charges were dropped with a letter saying to be more careful in future.

Interesting story.....so, the muppets expect us all to wait for a fortnight till the cert arrives from Shannon?:rolleyes:

Savman

niceirishfella wrote: »

Interesting story.....so, the muppets expect us all to wait for a fortnight till the cert arrives from Shannon?:rolleyes:

I don't understand your thinking, Traffic Cop walks by car with no Tax or Insurance, and keeps walking? I wanna live where you live!

-Chris-

niceirishfella wrote: »

Interesting story.....so, the muppets expect us all to wait for a fortnight till the cert arrives from Shannon?:rolleyes:

Someone doing their job is not a muppet.

Also bearing in mind that the "muppet" in question then proceeded to advise vectra how to get the fines quashed, I think you're being a bit harsh...

Esel

Just to clarify, it's 'more than two months'. so, two full month have to had elapsed.

learnerplates

I got clarification from the guards today.

Anything over 2 months and the guard has the legal right to confiscate the car there and then, it's upto the guard.

Motor tax that's out of date will result in a 60euro fine, the fine comes as a "fixed penalty notice", posted to you, which can be payed in any post office. If this is not paid then it'll be a court appearance.

And on the comment "No excuse for tax being out 30 days to be honest " there are lots of reasons, like out of the country or moved house and not getting the renewal letter, very easy indeed.

Anan1

learnerplates wrote: »

And on the comment "No excuse for tax being out 30 days to be honest " there are lots of reasons, like out of the country or moved house and not getting the renewal letter, very easy indeed.

So keep the car on private property until it's taxed and there won't be a problem.

dutchcat

vectra wrote: »

And keep the tax up to date. No excuse for tax being out 30 days to be honest :rolleyes:

mind you dont fall off that high horse you're up on there,it's along way down;)

vectra

learnerplates wrote: »

And on the comment "No excuse for tax being out 30 days to be honest " there are lots of reasons, like out of the country or moved house and not getting the renewal letter, very easy indeed.

No there aint.
No Tax means it is not supposed to be on public road
Simple.

dutchcat wrote: »

mind you dont fall off that high horse you're up on there,it's along way down;)

Dont hold your breath.
never did and never will drive with no tax/insurance.
So go back to your corner and rest in peace. :rolleyes:

Anan1

dutchcat wrote: »

mind you dont fall off that high horse you're up on there,it's along way down;)

Ah, that old chestnut again.

dutchcat

Dont hold your breath.
never did and never will drive with no tax/insurance.
So go back to your corner and rest in peace. :rolleyes:[/quote]
sure you're a great fella altogether,when tou arrive in the real world give us a shout d...head

Anan1

dutchcat wrote: »

sure you're a great fella altogether,when tou arrive in the real world give us a shout d...head

Banned for a week for personal abuse

Whitewater-AGS

learnerplates wrote: »

and not getting the renewal letter, very easy indeed.

Oh yes the best excuse of all, since when is it the responsibility of the motor tax office to tell you when the tax on the car your driving is up

-Chris-

I thought that was part of law - once you've posted it, your responsibility ends. It's then the receiver's problem.

niceirishfella

-Chris- wrote: »

Someone doing their job is not a muppet.

Also bearing in mind that the "muppet" in question then proceeded to advise vectra how to get the fines quashed, I think you're being a bit harsh...

I was referring to the slow return of documents to new owners etc from shannon and the "sometimes" over reaction from guards (some of whom are muppets) when they encounter a person with no tax who may have had the car just a week or two.
And sure Harsh is my middle name - so please, mod properly and no name calling (calling me harsh - ):D -

niceirishfella

Anan1 wrote: »

Banned for a week for personal abuse

ahhh here, swingin' WAY too much weight here, he has'nt really abused anyone.:o

Whitewater-AGS

-Chris- wrote: »

I thought that was part of law - once you've posted it, your responsibility ends. It's then the receiver's problem.

Your taking it up wrong, saying the motor tax office never sent you out a renewal is no excuse for not having tax its up to the driver to check/know when their tax is up.

And as far as I know there is nothing in law that says when you post it, its no longer your responsibility.

-Chris-

niceirishfella wrote: »

And sure Harsh is my middle name - so please, mod properly and no name calling (calling me harsh - ):D -

Niceharshfella, is it? Can I see some hidentification please?

niceirishfella wrote: »

ahhh here, swingin' WAY too much weight here, he has'nt really abused anyone.:o

Calling someone a D*ckhead isn't abuse? Don't backseat mod please NHF...

niceirishfella

Easy Tiger..........Easy there., Breath in, and out, in and out............

-Chris-

Whitewater-AGS wrote: »

Your taking it up wrong, saying the motor tax office never sent you out a renewal is no excuse for not having tax its up to the driver to check/know when their tax is up.

Definitely - driving in a public place without a valid tax disk displayed (or whatever the offence is) is totally separate from any other postal issue.

Whitewater-AGS wrote: »

And as far as I know there is nothing in law that says when you post it, its no longer your responsibility.

It think it may be contract law rather than criminal law, or I may be remembering it wrong - the postal rule. It's been a while...

I rescind my comment :P:D

-Chris-

niceirishfella wrote: »

Easy Tiger..........Easy there., Breath in, and out, in and out............

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mark1974

vectra wrote: »

Happened me one time
Bought a car.
Drove it to town next day and parked it
came back and there were 3 tickets on my windscreen
No Tax
No Tax displayed.
No insurance disc displayed

Went to the station to explain and was told it sohuld not be on the road until in order.
Garda that slapped me was understanding and told me to appeal it to the super explaining the circumstances.
all charges were dropped with a letter saying to be more careful in future.

Dont hold your breath.
never did and never will drive with no tax/insurance.
So go back to your corner and rest in peace. :rolleyes:[/quote]

Make up your mind Vectra :rolleyes:

niceirishfella

-Chris- wrote: »

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you pussy..........:D

just kiddin witcha........no offence intended as ever:)

learnerplates

vectra wrote: »

No there aint.
No Tax means it is not supposed to be on public road
Simple.

Well done Vectra, state the obvious, I know the law. People make mistakes like expecting a renewal letter...life.

Anan1

niceirishfella wrote: »

ahhh here, swingin' WAY too much weight here, he has'nt really abused anyone.:o

1. Calling another poster a d...head has always been a bannable offence.
2. If you disagree with a mod's decision then feel free to PM them but don't try to start a discussion about it in the thread.