TEKKEN 6 BR in Dublin, IRELAND 28th November

mantys

Dublin thread about Tekken 6 BR.

Tekken 6 BR is going to be released on the consoles on 30th October!!! To celebrate this event, we invite you to take a part in our first monthly tournament in Tekken 6 BR!

Dates considered are 21st November or 28th November (exact date will be confirmed here!) so do not hesitate and come to meet new players, test your skills, try the new characters or watch the most devastating combos as the best players in Ireland meet for the first time to fight for a Tekken Title!

Player of ALL levels are WELCOME!!!

The tournament will take place in EXTREME Internet Cafe, 30/31 Lower Liffey Street, Dublin 1!!! Entrance fee will be confirmed here later, depending on the number of participants!

Tournaments will later take place on a regular basis every month depending on the number of players, Team Tournaments available as well!

chopperbyrne

mantys wrote: »

Dublin thread about Tekken 6 BR. Meet new players, come to tournaments to test your skills and to see the most devastating combos!

Who are these new players?

Where would one meet them?

Where and when are the tournaments held?

mantys

Rules (will elaborate later):

* first to 3
* 60 seconds per round
* first stage is random, loser chooses next one
* everyone plays everyone, or single/double eliminations (depending on the number of players)
* PS3 version
* maybe you'll be required to bring your own controller
* shoulder buttons allowed
* if Azazel is pick-able= he's banned (therefore Mokujin as well)

For any other information, do not hesitate to mail me

mantys@tekken.cc

or to chat, look at
www.tekkenzaibatsu.com, go to forums, Europe match finder, King of Iron Fist Tournament Ireland!

Xinkai

1st to say i'll be there, if i can use my stick

mantys

After everything goes good, tournaments will be held every month on a regular basis. There is no sponsors at the moment, that will be sorted out later. If you know about any, do post it here or mail me.

Especially Irish players are welcome to form an Irish Team if possible.:)

Orim

mantys wrote: »

* everyone plays everyone

That will take forever if you get a decent number. For example at the last street fighter tourney 25 people showed up. Now my maths could be wrong but assuming each match is 3-1 then thats 2400 games that need to be played. And from there it seems like it would quite tough to decide winners and what-not. I would highly advise a groups into single/double elim brackets.

Anyway if I'm not busy then I'll pop along to fill up numbers. Tekken is the 3-D one, right?

mantys

All depends on the number of participants. If there is more than 10 players, we will use another system with elimination matches. No problem with that. Just keep posting your ideas here!

Dreddybajs

Good luck with this, won't be entering myself, but anything that builds the Irish fighting game scene sounds good to me.

Sagat06

Yeah good luck with this, if I was anything more than a button basher at this I would consider it!!

Leprekaun

I may enter this, depending on how good I can get my Jin going but regardless, I'm far from being any good at Tekken so will have to practice a bit yet.

A-Trak

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Good luck with this, won't be entering myself, but anything that builds the Irish fighting game scene sounds good to me.

+1

As I've never even played a round of Tekken on any format this wouldn't be for me.

Good luck though, hope it's successful for you.

Doctor DooM

Lets be honest, we'll be there playing SF on the day anyway guys


Good luck with this. I know a few tekken people so I will pass on the word. Not my game though!

Orim

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Lets be honest, we'll be there playing SF on the day anyway guys

Speaking of which, maybe some kind cross-game competition between the two sets of players?

Also mantys you should PM Sabre0001 here or contact him through esports.ie. When you have a full set of rules and everything is set then you can get a good notifiction on the website

K.O.Kiki

Does "First to 3" mean 1 match, best 3/5 rounds; or best 3/5 matches?

Anyway, I'll jump in, might as well test my Saulabi with this game

Sabre0001

HMUYA wrote: »

Speaking of which, maybe some kind cross-game competition between the two sets of players?

Also mantys you should PM Sabre0001 here or contact him through esports.ie. When you have a full set of rules and everything is set then you can get a good notifiction on the website

Good to know the constant harrassment works!

Doctor DooM

HMUYA wrote: »

Speaking of which, maybe some kind cross-game competition between the two sets of players?

Would probably be horribly unfair, as our game has been on general release long enough for most of us to become pretty competent at it...



yeah, we should definitely do this

Jim

Tekkan is not my game, but might pop down on the day and have a nose.

mantys

OK guys, as this is a first tournament ever I organize myself, I decided to limit the number of participants to 16!

Here is the list at the moment:
1) The Domonator
2) God-fisted Kaz
3) Mantys
4) ReddragonJack
5)...

If you are interested, please post your nick name and a the mostly character you'd play in the tournament.

I had to do this cut, because I don't want things to get out of my hands during the first tournament. I hope you understand.
I will set the rules and the date of the tournament later on this page or on www.tekkenzaibatsu.com

Doctor DooM

mantys wrote: »

OK guys, as this is a first tournament ever I organize myself, I decided to limit the number of participants to 16!

Here is the list at the moment:
1) The Domonator
2) God-fisted Kaz
3) Mantys
4) ReddragonJack
5)...

If you are interested, please post your nick name and a the mostly character you'd play in the tournament.

I had to do this cut, because I don't want things to get out of my hands during the first tournament. I hope you understand.
I will set the rules and the date of the tournament later on this page or on www.tekkenzaibatsu.com

You should talk to Leprekaun or Azza, they've run tournaments before.

Also if you pm me closer to the day I will put up a forum announcement. As said before, anything which is good for the fighting game community this forums behind.

Same goes for anyone running a tournament btw.

mantys

RULES:

We are going to use double eliminations in this tournament. (Winner/Loser brackets)!
What do you think? Any comments welcome!

chopperbyrne

mantys wrote: »

RULES:

We are going to use double eliminations in this tournament. (Winner/Loser brackets)!
What do you think? Any comments welcome!

With just sixteen players it'll be over very quickly and some people will only get two matches for their entry fee (how much will that be by the way?)

If you run two groups of eight and then a double elim for the top eight, it'd be better.

Not quite sure how many games that works out as so four groups of four might be more feasible.

mantys

There will be two rounds of double eliminations, then a Final Round (winners) and Losers Round (losers) so everyone gets to play more matches. Free play and challenges available for the rest of the tournament!

chopperbyrne

mantys wrote: »

There will be two rounds of double eliminations, then a Final Round (winners) and Losers Round (losers) so everyone gets to play more matches. Free play and challenges available for the rest of the tournament!

So you're running a triple elimination tournament then?

I hope you know how to work out those brackets!

mantys

If a player is eliminated for the second round, he'll drop to LOSER bracket (a special one) and they'll be allowed to play other LOSERS at the end, just to allow them to play more.:D
The same goes for the winners, if it's not totally obvious...:D

And YES I can work the brackets!

Retr0gamer

[insightful comment]Tekken is shit [/insightful comment]

Doctor DooM

mantys wrote: »

If a player is eliminated for the second round, he'll drop to LOSER bracket (a special one) and they'll be allowed to play other LOSERS at the end, just to allow them to play more.:D
The same goes for the winners, if it's not totally obvious...:D

And YES I can work the brackets!

Triple might take forever dude. I'd go with double.

also, thanks for the helpful comment, Sakura! :P

Orim

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Would probably be horribly unfair, as our game has been on general release long enough for most of us to become pretty competent at it...



yeah, we should definitely do this

Ah but you never know. Some of their players may have been playing Street Fighter and could rock us, even with the mighty Guile Air-Throw.

Mantys that sounds very complicated. I would agree with chopper. I think the easiest way to do it would be to have 4 groups of 4 and have the top two from each group into an 8 man double elimination bracket.

I will put my name down but please note that I'm not very good. I'm just putting my name to try and fill numbers for you. If there is more interested people then you can go ahead and take my name off the list.

K.O.Kiki

K.O.Kiki (PSN:kikimaru024) -- Bryan FURY

chopperbyrne

Actually, four groups of four drawn randomly with everyone going through to a double elimination bracket could be done too.

The group standings could decide seedings for the elimination stage.

1st places play 4th places
2nd places play 3rd places

Doctor DooM

HMUYA wrote: »

Ah but you never know. Some of their players may have been playing Street Fighter and could rock us, even with the mighty Guile Air-Throw.

Mantys that sounds very complicated. I would agree with chopper. I think the easiest way to do it would be to have 4 groups of 4 and have the top two from each group into an 8 man double elimination bracket.

I will put my name down but please note that I'm not very good. I'm just putting my name to try and fill numbers for you. If there is more interested people then you can go ahead and take my name off the list.

Nothing beats the air throw!1!

Is Heihachi in this one? I guess if I was giving it a shot I'd rock good ol pointy hair.

Orim

Chuns air throw sucks or I suck, I can never remember which.

I think Heihachi is in it but I'm not sure my knowledge is limited. Is he the granddad character?

Can someone tell me who a terry type character is? That's who I'll play.

Doctor DooM

HMUYA wrote: »

Chuns air throw sucks or I suck, I can never remember which.

I think Heihachi is in it but I'm not sure my knowledge is limited. Is he the granddad character?

Can someone tell me who a terry type character is? That's who I'll play.

I second main Chun and her air throws pretty nasty too, sorry

Heihachi is indeed the grand-dad.

I think Paul is the munchy character in Tekken?

mantys

Guys, actually Patrick (XTheWitchX) won the last SC4 tournament and he rocks online in SF4 as well. You can watch some of his videos on youtube.com, just type XTheWitchX.

The Winners/Losers brackets at the end will be there only for the players to play more games.
There will be two teams of 8 players each, they'll play double elimination, and after there will be final 8 to play the second double elimination from them. Is that ok? To me it doesn't seem complivated.

@Doctor DooM: You should enter, it will be fun!

Here is the list at the moment:
1) The Domonator
2) God-fisted Kaz
3) Mantys
4) RedDragonJack
5) Hmuya
6) K.O.Kiki
7) Xinkai
8) Leprekaun
9) ...

Not definite.

K.O.Kiki

Yeah, gotta tell Witch about this, he'll be ecstatic.

chopperbyrne

mantys wrote: »

The Winners/Losers brackets at the end will be there only for the players to play more games.
There will be two teams of 8 players each, they'll play double elimination, and after there will be final 8 to play the second double elimination from them. Is that ok? To me it doesn't seem complivated.

It is complicated.

Needlessly so.

Two teams of eight???

Seriously, post up a spreadsheet or diagram of how the tournament will be played please.

mantys

OK. 16 player will be divided into two groups, let's say A and B. Both groups will play double eliminations. Players who were eliminated two times will drop to LOSER brackets. Players who won (4 from each group) will form FINAL Group and will play another double elimination. Remaining players will join LOSERS bracket for their matches(but they obviously don't matter, just to keep them playing).
So after first double eliminations, there will be two new groups: LOSERS and WEINNERS. And they will play another double eliminations. So the winner from A group meets winner from B group, if they don't get eliminated, you never know. (bad match-ups happen:D)

chopperbyrne

That still doesn't make sense.

If the groups are double elimination, then you have four winners after just one round of matches, but you say four "winners" from each group will go through(thus making it single elimination).

You've also said you drop to losers after two losses, that's triple elimination.

Seriously, diagrams are required here.

Orim

mantys wrote: »

OK. 16 player will be divided into two groups, let's say A and B. Both groups will play double eliminations. Players who were eliminated two times will drop to LOSER brackets. Players who won (4 from each group) will form FINAL Group and will play another double elimination. Remaining players will join LOSERS bracket for their matches(but they obviously don't matter, just to keep them playing).
So after first double eliminations, there will be two new groups: LOSERS and WEINNERS. And they will play another double eliminations. So the winner from A group meets winner from B group, if they don't get eliminated, you never know. (bad match-ups happen:D)

Okay. I see what you are doing but you do appear to over-complicating things with the LOSER bracket. If this doesn't matter then do not include it. As long as their is consoles available then people will continue to play. A losers bracket only makes sense if there is a chance for them to work their way back in the competition.
The simple way to say it is you are running two qualifiers for an eight man double elim tournament. Each qualifier is a double elimination tournament which will give you players A1,A2,A3,A4 and B1,B2,B3,B4. Those numbers relate to their position in the qualifier and allows you to seed the main tournament.
Now there is two problems with this system :
1) It spilts the tournament and spilts your players. Some players don't feel like they are part of the "main" tournament.
2) This system is only good for the best players. For the worst players (the one who loses everything) he gets to play TWO actual tournament games.

Now Chopper posted a great system for a 16 man tournament.
4 groups of four. Everybody plays in the group in order to build a seeding for the double elimination part.
Every player goes into the 16 man double elimination tournament and dukes it out for the big prize.

If we contrast ths with the problems from the original system:
1) Everybody is part of the main system. No division everyone playing for the same goal.
2) Most important, in this system the worst player gets to play FIVE games that are competitive.

If you really want to run this monthly you need to encourage the worst players. The players who are good and win will most likely come back again. However the bad player needs to see that it can fun. He needs to be invested in the tournament. That will not happen with two games in a qualifier tournament.

I mean this to come across in a constructive manner. By all means run the tournament any way you want but this is my two cents on your format.

mantys

HMUYA thank you thank you thank you! Finally somebopdy understands! I just wanted the losers to play more.
That 4x4 is much better. Can you explain it more? Thank you so much, I'll probably have to do it that way, so everbody can play.

chopperbyrne

mantys wrote: »

HMUYA thank you thank you thank you! Finally somebopdy understands! I just wanted the losers to play more.
That 4x4 is much better. Can you explain it more? Thank you so much, I'll probably have to do it that way, so everbody can play.

Everyone is drawn randomly in four groups of four.

Everyone in Group A plays each other.

Same for Groups B, C and D.

You use the standings from these groups to decide who plays who in the first round of double elimination.

Everyone who finished first in their group will play all the fourth place finishers.

The second place finishers will play the third place finishers.

Then the double elimination bracket just plays itself out.

Orim

What Chopper said. This will be especially easy if you can get the 16 players before the day of the tourney as you can have the groups ready to run.

mantys

This is the list so far:

6 PLACES REMAINING!

1) The Domonator
2) God-fisted Kaz
3) Mantys
4) RedDragonJack
5) Hmuya
6) K.O.Kiki
7) Xinkai
8) Leprekaun
9) Triademan (K.O.I.F.)
10) Tequila[Wings]
11) ...

If there is 17 players, I will withdraw from the tournament as I will have more time to administrate things and one more player will have a chance to play.;)

Date is 28th November, 15:00 SHARP; registrations for remaining places 10-15 minutes sooner!!!

mantys

Here is the list at the moment:

5 PLACES REMAINING!

1) The Domonator
2) God-fisted Kaz
3) Mantys
4) RedDragonJack
5) Hmuya
6) K.O.Kiki
7) Xinkai
8) Leprekaun
9) Triademan (K.O.I.F.)
10) Tequila[Wings]
11) LUKASAN
12) Ken
13) ...

cmpunk

Put me in for this haveing played tekken inyears last one was tag on the ps 2

Orim

mantys wrote: »

If there is 17 players, I will withdraw from the tournament as I will have more time to administrate things and one more player will have a chance to play.;)

Date is 28th November, 15:00 SHARP; registrations for remaining places 10-15 minutes sooner!!!

Mantys if there is extra players then I will drop out and help you run the tournament if you want. As I said I won't be the best player so it's better better players like yourself get to play.

Also I'm fairly certain that Doom wants to play in this tournament, so you should probaly put his name down.

Newaglish

Can I put down Newaglish (probably Asuka Kazama) and common_parlance (Lee Chaolan)?

Cheers!

K.O.Kiki

Honestly, you shouldn't have a limit on how many people can enter. Just make some of the groups a 5-person group, the first stage will bring it to 8 players regardless.

Newaglish

ANd also one more non-boardsie (Dave545) who will be playing as yet an undecided character!

chopperbyrne

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Honestly, you shouldn't have a limit on how many people can enter. Just make some of the groups a 5-person group, the first stage will bring it to 8 players regardless.

Yeah don't have a limit, just let the top 16 players go through. The people in the larger group will be getting an extra game anyway.

Doctor DooM

HMUYA wrote: »

Mantys if there is extra players then I will drop out and help you run the tournament if you want. As I said I won't be the best player so it's better better players like yourself get to play.

Also I'm fairly certain that Doom wants to play in this tournament, so you should probaly put his name down.

mantys I would take this offer.

I don't want to confirm I can play til I find out if I will be in Germany or not

mantys

No problem guys, I am increasing the number to 20 as I believe that some players will not show up anyway.

Here is the list at the moment:


3 PLACES REMAINING!

1) The Domonator
2) God-fisted Kaz
3) Mantys
4) RedDragonJack
5) Hmuya
6) K.O.Kiki
7) Xinkai
8) Leprekaun
9) Triademan (K.O.I.F.)
10) Tequila[Wings]
11) LUKASAN
12) Ken
13) Hithere10
14) Newaglish
15) common_parlance
16) Dave545
17) Doctor DooM
18) ...

There will be 4 groups of 5 players before double eliminations.

Help is welcome here! :eek: