No wheat, no dairy.

pikachucheeks

Hi everyone,

I went to the doctor today and because of sinus and allergy issues, I'm being told to give up both wheat and dairy.

Dairy-wise, it's not so bad, because I tried to keep dairy in my diet to a minimum. I'd have chocolate, or cheese, the occasional time but that's about it!

Wheat is going to be a bit more difficult, however. I love bread!

However, for the sake of my health, I'm going to take this seriously and kick them both to the curb!

Does anyone have any tips on what I can use for substitutes, or on particular foods I should add to my diet, to keep me full and keep pesky cravings at bay?

LimeFruitGum

I was talking to a girl in work today, who is going to WW and she has been told to stay off bread too. She thought it was going to be really hard to give it up, but she has found that it is going OK and she doesn't miss it as much as she thought she would.
Instead of a sandwich or a roll for lunch, she brings in homemade veg soup. She's allowed to eat a couple of water biscuits or some Crackerbread. That probably sounds really meh, but it does the job for her anyway.
Good luck

HardyEustace

I've found the susan jane murray website absolutely fantastic.

Great resource and all for free as well.

cruizer101

The reason for giving up wheat is probably due to the gluten in it.

There are gluten free alternatives of a lot of stuff, buckwheat pasta has no gluten, there is also gluten free bread available, you should find both in the health food section of the supermarket, although i think thye may cost a bit more.

You can also buy gluten free flour and you should be able to make your own bread and pasta with it.

Also Oats are gluten free, if you blitz up oats in the blender you get a flour which I've made pancakes out of, and you might well be able to make Oat bread and Oat pasta out of it too, but i'm not sure.

El_Dangeroso

Hi There,

I do the wheat/dairy free thing from time to time and I stay wheat free all of the time.

The hardest thing is lunch but the best strategy I've found is ploughman style salads with HB eggs, avacado, chopped chicken, tomatoes, homemade potato salad, lettuce and dressing.

Or you can make the flaxseed bread, I posted about it before but can't find it as the search is down.. I think of the shop bought ones, bear in mind there is a lot of additives and crap in most of them so not the healthiest - but ok once in a while, the best one I've tried is tesco's gluten free, although none of them taste remotely like the real thing and some of them are downright awful considering that they are not cheap at all.

You can also make a crustless quiche which is basically a big thick omlette you can fill with lots of different veg and make the night before, I usually line the tin with streaky bacon to stop it sticking.

You can substitute coconut cream for dairy cream in things like curries and such.. I even attempted some coconut ice-cream once.. didn't turn out too bad!



Everyone has that sinus thing at the moment it seems, few of my friends have had it for a few weeks.

Pembily

I am always wheat and dairy free... It takes getting used to but once get used to it!!!

The sarah jane murray link above is amazing, havn't made anything yet but her recipes are savage

Bread - gluten free is not the best especially if you are a bread person (I am) spelt / rye are much better - O'Connors do a lovely spelt and honey bread - you wouldn't even know its not wheat, they also do a lil roll!!! Dunnes Livewell range multi seed bread rolls are gluten free and lovely!! They also do chocolate criossiants that are dairy and gluten free just found them today and am delighted, hope they are tasty!!! Aldi / Lidl do a soda type rye bread - its kinda a sourdough bread!! Bread is kinda a personal thing so what you like really comes from experimenting. All the yeasty breads will be dairy free but not the soda ones, I love soda breads so always make my own, I also make fab cranberry & coconut spelt scones that are lovely and wheat, dairy and sugar free!!!

Pasta - again spelt is nicer but Dunnes do one for 99c that is quite nice!!!

My lunch is always soup or salad, oat cakes are lovely, they come in flavours and biscuit form too!!!

Dunnes also do wheat free soya sauce that is pretty much the same a normal soya sauce, the best gravy to get is Free & Easy Gluten Free Vegetable Gravy, it's very tasty!!!


Best of luck, its not too hard, just takes adjustment and planning!!!!

Cadiz

Pembily wrote: »

I am always wheat and dairy free... It takes getting used to but once get used to it!!!

The sarah jane murray link above is amazing, havn't made anything yet but her recipes are savage

Bread - gluten free is not the best especially if you are a bread person (I am) spelt / rye are much better - O'Connors do a lovely spelt and honey bread - you wouldn't even know its not wheat, they also do a lil roll!!! Dunnes Livewell range multi seed bread rolls are gluten free and lovely!! They also do chocolate criossiants that are dairy and gluten free just found them today and am delighted, hope they are tasty!!! Aldi / Lidl do a soda type rye bread - its kinda a sourdough bread!! Bread is kinda a personal thing so what you like really comes from experimenting. All the yeasty breads will be dairy free but not the soda ones, I love soda breads so always make my own, I also make fab cranberry & coconut spelt scones that are lovely and wheat, dairy and sugar free!!!

Pasta - again spelt is nicer but Dunnes do one for 99c that is quite nice!!!

My lunch is always soup or salad, oat cakes are lovely, they come in flavours and biscuit form too!!!

Dunnes also do wheat free soya sauce that is pretty much the same a normal soya sauce, the best gravy to get is Free & Easy Gluten Free Vegetable Gravy, it's very tasty!!!


Best of luck, its not too hard, just takes adjustment and planning!!!!

Spelt is a wheat. It's an older species of wheat and for some reason people who are wheat intolerant can find it more digestable but it does contain gluten.

Rye bread usually does not contain wheat, but some varieties do contain some wheat flour. But you can usually tell, as if it's whitish, pillowy bread, it's bound to contain wheat.

Pembily

If you are told to go off wheat for allergies generally you can tolerate spelt!!!

Yes some spelt / rye breads contain wheat but not the one's i suggested!!!!

El_Dangeroso

I do think it is a personal tolerance thing. I can't tolerate spelt at all unfortunately. I'd go completely wheat-free for at least a month then maybe try the spelt and see how you feel.

Lots of things have hidden wheat in them too so you have to become a bit of a label detective and remember gluten free does not always mean wheat free either.

If you do have a real intolerance it's worth it though. The feeling of increased energy and mental clarity is amazing. I lost about half a stone doing nothing different except giving up wheat.

Cadiz

Pembily wrote: »

If you are told to go off wheat for allergies generally you can tolerate spelt!!!

Yes some spelt / rye breads contain wheat but not the one's i suggested!!!!

The spelt bread and pasta you mention would certainly contain wheat, what with spelt being a wheat an' all :rolleyes:

If gluten is the issue (though the OP does not say whether it is) then spelt is unlikely to be suitable (as it does contain gluten).

OP - Rice pasta or buckwheat pasta aren't so bad, if that helps. Good luck - life without wheat or dairy is a challenge.

Pembily

Cadiz wrote: »

OP - Rice pasta or buckwheat pasta aren't so bad, if that helps. Good luck - life without wheat or dairy is a challenge.

It's only a challenge if you allow it to rule your life!!! There are so many alternatives out there now it doesn't need to be a challenge!!!!

Dunnes Livewell are - wheat, gluten and dairy free!!! Full wheat made from rice flour...

Cadiz

Soya icecream is very do-able non-dairy option

(slathers a hunk of baguette with Nutella; mentally thanks powers-that-be for allergy-free status and digestive health)

kaykay27

Pembily wrote: »

I am always wheat and dairy free... It takes getting used to but once get used to it!!!

The sarah jane murray link above is amazing, havn't made anything yet but her recipes are savage

Bread - gluten free is not the best especially if you are a bread person (I am) spelt / rye are much better - O'Connors do a lovely spelt and honey bread - you wouldn't even know its not wheat, they also do a lil roll!!! Dunnes Livewell range multi seed bread rolls are gluten free and lovely!! They also do chocolate criossiants that are dairy and gluten free just found them today and am delighted, hope they are tasty!!! Aldi / Lidl do a soda type rye bread - its kinda a sourdough bread!! Bread is kinda a personal thing so what you like really comes from experimenting. All the yeasty breads will be dairy free but not the soda ones, I love soda breads so always make my own, I also make fab cranberry & coconut spelt scones that are lovely and wheat, dairy and sugar free!!!

Pasta - again spelt is nicer but Dunnes do one for 99c that is quite nice!!!

My lunch is always soup or salad, oat cakes are lovely, they come in flavours and biscuit form too!!!

Dunnes also do wheat free soya sauce that is pretty much the same a normal soya sauce, the best gravy to get is Free & Easy Gluten Free Vegetable Gravy, it's very tasty!!!


Best of luck, its not too hard, just takes adjustment and planning!!!!

Pembily u mention O'Connors above-where can i find this shop is it in Dublin city center?

Pembily

kaykay27 wrote: »

Pembily u mention O'Connors above-where can i find this shop is it in Dublin city center?

K as far as the website says it is only in Clare, Galway, Limerick! But I got that spelt and honey bread in a place in Cork too. Can't think of the name of the brand but it has a lil bee on it!!!

Dunnes do a yeast one but has a bit of wheat in it, as do M&S and Superquinn but both have bit of wheat!!! I am sure there is a small bakery in Dublin that will do a nice Spelt loaf... I also get a baguette in Ennis, it's fab

Sadly it just takes research...

Baking it is an option if you have time and can't find an alternative!!!

Pembily

Cadiz wrote: »

Soya icecream is very do-able non-dairy option

Blended with aftereight the vanilla soya ice cream is savage :D:D:D:D

Khannie

Did the doctor say why you should give up wheat and dairy?

I try to avoid wheat generally. Oats can be used as a substitute in a lot of cases (even ground into flour and used for baking, depending on the recipe). I'm not sure if they have gluten in them or not. I don't have any food issues that I'm aware of so I've never looked into it.

El_Dangeroso

Khannie wrote: »

Did the doctor say why you should give up wheat and dairy?

I try to avoid wheat generally. Oats can be used as a substitute in a lot of cases (even ground into flour and used for baking, depending on the recipe). I'm not sure if they have gluten in them or not. I don't have any food issues that I'm aware of so I've never looked into it.

Oats don't have gluten naturally but the risk of cross-contamination due to similar storage facilities etc is so high that celiacs are advised to avoid it.

reamie

Went on wheat and dairy free diet, solved alot of problems for me. Was popping rennies like sweets had ibs and sinus. Lost a load of weight on diet. ALso took gultamine good for recovering from food intolerances. Its tough but have odd cup of tea with milk and totast sometimes.

Pembily

reamie wrote: »

Went on wheat and dairy free diet, solved alot of problems for me. Was popping rennies like sweets had ibs and sinus. Lost a load of weight on diet. ALso took gultamine good for recovering from food intolerances. Its tough but have odd cup of tea with milk and totast sometimes.

Glutamine is great for healing your gut and is quite cheap too :)

I don't actually like the taste of milk in my tea anymore!! The only dairy thing i miss is icecream...

Khannie

Pembily wrote: »

The only dairy thing i miss is icecream...

You can get pretty decent soya ice cream. I got a good one in superquinn before. Not sure I could tell the difference if I were blindfolded tbh.

Khannie

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Oats don't have gluten naturally but the risk of cross-contamination due to similar storage facilities etc is so high that celiacs are advised to avoid it.

Even the organic oats you can buy? How does this cross contamination occur? Are you talking about the oats being stored in the same bulk container where wheat had once been for example? Surely even that would result in only a teeny tiny amount of gluten.

The OP hasn't said she's a coeliac anyway. All this gluten stuff is just assumptions.

El_Dangeroso

Khannie wrote: »

Even the organic oats you can buy? How does this cross contamination occur? Are you talking about the oats being stored in the same bulk container where wheat had once been for example? Surely even that would result in only a teeny tiny amount of gluten.

The OP hasn't said she's a coeliac anyway. All this gluten stuff is just assumptions.

Yeah, it just takes a particle to trigger an immune reaction in some celiacs. One of my friends is celiac and can't even have chips fried in the same oil as batter.

The storage, packing and processing facilities are usually where cross contamination occurs.

I don't know for certain if she's been diagnosed but I'd say just intolerance too.. if you were a celiac, you'd probably know all about it. I've heard figures of up to 70% people having some form of wheat intolerance but these people are not going to have an auto-immune reaction to gluten like a celiac would.

pikachucheeks

Khannie wrote: »

Did the doctor say why you should give up wheat and dairy?

Yup!
Basically, for as long as I can remember, I haven't been able to smell because my nose is so blocked up.
I just always feel stuffed up and congested. She thinks the reason for this is down to allergies. I've seen other people about it before and they said the same.

My dad is highly allergic to both wheat and dairy, and I don't respond well to either myself. For example, if I ate bread, an hour later, I'd feel bloated, sluggish and even more congested. It's just not a comfortable feeling. So, the doctor suggested that I might be genetically allergic to the same things my dad is ... it's a long list!

I had my bloods tested about five years ago, and the only thing it showed up I was allergic to was house dust and pollen... but I'm having them re-done next week. There's also the option of a skin test, apparently?

Thanks so much for all your feedback and help, so far. I've been off both for four days and I've been ok so far! Just eating lots of fruit and vegetables to keep myself full.

Pembily

pikachucheeks wrote: »

Yup!
Basically, for as long as I can remember, I haven't been able to smell because my nose is so blocked up.
I just always feel stuffed up and congested. She thinks the reason for this is down to allergies. I've seen other people about it before and they said the same.

My dad is highly allergic to both wheat and dairy, and I don't respond well to either myself. For example, if I ate bread, an hour later, I'd feel bloated, sluggish and even more congested. It's just not a comfortable feeling. So, the doctor suggested that I might be genetically allergic to the same things my dad is ... it's a long list!

I had my bloods tested about five years ago, and the only thing it showed up I was allergic to was house dust and pollen... but I'm having them re-done next week. There's also the option of a skin test, apparently?

Thanks so much for all your feedback and help, so far. I've been off both for four days and I've been ok so far! Just eating lots of fruit and vegetables to keep myself full.

Apologies now but a test won't show up the wheat allergy!! It's more an intolerance to wheat, coelicas are allergic to wheat!! If it is only wheat you have to avoid it makes eating alot easier!!!

You can eat - oats, spelt, rye!!!

Niamh_

Spelt and Rye are good substitutes if it is just wheat as they are easier to digest than wheat. Corn is gluten free but many wheat allergy sufferers cannot tolerate it. Oats can often be cross contaminated with wheat too.
For pastas etc get Buckwheat or Spelt pasta from health shops etc. If gluten is the problem buckwheat will still be okay. As will brown rice.
I don't know anything about the dairy sorry. If it is lactose that's the problem you may be able to tolerate yogurt as the lactase(sp?) is mainly destroyed in the making of yogurt. Hope some of this is a help.

PrettyInPunk

Pikachu i suffer quite similarly to you, i am constantly stuffed up, sniffing, real allergy symptoms and i did notice when i ate really healthily( no wheat or dairy) it subsided. Im quite congested at the moment and ive been eating pretty ****tily, i think im gonna take a leaf out of your book and give up wheat and dairy again. Did the doctor say they are linked to these kinds of allergies?

Niamh_

PrettyInPunk wrote: »

Pikachu i suffer quite similarly to you, i am constantly stuffed up, sniffing, real allergy symptoms and i did notice when i ate really healthily( no wheat or dairy) it subsided. Im quite congested at the moment and ive been eating pretty ****tily, i think im gonna take a leaf out of your book and give up wheat and dairy again. Did the doctor say they are linked to these kinds of allergies?

Do you use full fat milk? There is more lactose in them and that can often cause phylum.

El_Dangeroso

Niamh_ wrote: »

Do you use full fat milk? There is more lactose in them and that can often cause phylum.

Is there? I would have thought there would be more in skimmed as a percentage as the fat is removed, no?

Khannie

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Is there? I would have thought there would be more in skimmed as a percentage as the fat is removed, no?

Definitely more lactose per 100ml in skimmed milk than whole milk.

edit: Confirmed this in my fridge.

cosnochta

Pembily wrote: »

Apologies now but a test won't show up the wheat allergy!! It's more an intolerance to wheat, coelicas are allergic to wheat!! If it is only wheat you have to avoid it makes eating alot easier!!!

You can eat - oats, spelt, rye!!!

Allergy tests will show up an allergy to wheat. I should know, I have had tests done for both coeliac's disease and wheat allergies and I have a serious wheat allergy but I am not a coeliac. I have been on a wheat-free diet for over 3 years and feel great for it. Coeliacs are not allergic to wheat, they are allergic to the gluten that is found in wheat and also other grains.

Spelt is a form of wheat, so if the OP has been advised to stay off wheat, then I would suggest they also stay off spelt. As a previous poster suggested, OP, you could try introducing spelt after you have been completely wheat-free for a good while and see if you can tolerate it. I know that I was advised not to try spelt by my specialist. I did try it anyway, and found that I could not tolerate it.

Another word of advice, it could take a number of months for your body to adjust, so I would recommend the OP to stick religiously to the wheat-free diet for around three months as it could take this long for the benefits to be noticeable. Since going wheat-free, my energy levels have gone through the roof, my asthma and hayfever are virtually non-existent and my severe tummy troubles have settled.

cosnochta

pikachucheeks wrote: »

Hi everyone,
Wheat is going to be a bit more difficult, however. I love bread!

However, for the sake of my health, I'm going to take this seriously and kick them both to the curb!

Does anyone have any tips on what I can use for substitutes, or on particular foods I should add to my diet, to keep me full and keep pesky cravings at bay?

My specialist told me that you often crave the things you are allergic to. While the diet may be a challenge at first, you will soon find that you no longer miss wheat. My diet used to be solely bread, pasta and pizza, but now the thought of eating them makes me feel a little sick.

Diet advice:
Rice cakes are versatile. They are yummy with jam or chocolate spread. Equally tasty with pate.

Nairns do very nice oat biscuits in three different flavours. Tasty and filling.

Harvest Crunch granola bars are handy for a snack.

Tesco Free From range has the nicest wheat-free bread that I've tried. Don't bother with the multi-grain stuff as it falls apart, but the white sliced pan (better as toast) and baguettes are fine.

Porridge, corn flakes and rice crispies are fine for breakfast. Some meusli is ok, but check the ingredients.

Tinned tomato soup is safe. Most other tinned soup is not. I usually make my own veg soup using Kelkin stock cubes (wheat-free, most stock cubes are not).

Tesco and Dunnes wheat-free pasta are fine. Nobody I know can tell that they are wheat-free. Get the penne or the fusili, the spaghetti just clumps together when you are cooking it.

If you usually use jars of cooking sauces, then you'll need to check the labels. Generally, bolognese sauces are ok, most chinese style sauces are not (due to the soya), a lot of indian style sauces are fine too. Aldi do some nice sauces and their allergy information is very clearly printed on all their labels.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'll post again if I think of anymore tips.

Best of luck and I hope that you feel much better soon.

cosnochta

pikachucheeks wrote: »

However, for the sake of my health, I'm going to take this seriously and kick them both to the curb!

Just wondering how this is going for you. Probably too early to have a noticeable improvement in your symptons but keep at it.

Best of luck

jdivision

Just to say that rice cakes are dreadful for you in that you'll feel hungry quickly afterwards so avoid them.

cosnochta

jdivision wrote: »

Just to say that rice cakes are dreadful for you in that you'll feel hungry quickly afterwards so avoid them.

I haven't found that when I eat them. Also, if you are on a wheat-free diet, there's not much to choose from so it's nice to have a bit of variety.

Another option is the original Ryvita, but they can be a bit boring after a while.

Aldi and Lidl often sell rye bread. The taste and texture are very different than 'normal' bread, but it's fine once you get used to it.

Forgot to say before, that popcorn is a handy snack.

LimeFruitGum

Just got some plain Nairn's oatcakes, they're quite handy for the lunchbox.

jdivision

cosnochta wrote: »

Another option is the original Ryvita, but they can be a bit boring after a while.

Aldi and Lidl often sell rye bread. The taste and texture are very different than 'normal' bread, but it's fine once you get used to it.

Can you eat rye when you're avoiding wheat? I certainly don't but might be open to correction.
Eating protein and good fats is best way to keep full. I find that if I buy rice cakes I'll eat half the box in front of the TV and still be hungry. I'd also question if granola bars are ok to eat.

Cadiz

jdivision wrote: »

Can you eat rye when you're avoiding wheat?

Rye is not a wheat, so ryvita and rye bread (having checked the ingredients as can sometimes contains wheat flour too) are fine for wheat allergy or intolerance. But I've no idea re gluten issues if it's suitable.

Pembily

Cadiz wrote: »

Rye is not a wheat, so ryvita and rye bread (having checked the ingredients as can sometimes contains wheat flour too) are fine for wheat allergy or intolerance. But I've no idea re gluten issues if it's suitable.

Rye, spelt, oats granola are ok for a wheat free diet but not a gluten free diet!!!! You can get gluten free oats and then make your own granola and flapjacks!!!

Cadiz

Pembily wrote: »

Rye, spelt, oats granola are ok for a wheat free diet but not a gluten free diet!!!! You can get gluten free oats and then make your own granola and flapjacks!!!

I don't think that's entirely correct on the spelt front, it's generally recommended that you avoid it at least initially, as I understand it.

cosnochta

Pembily wrote: »

Rye, spelt, oats granola are ok for a wheat free diet but not a gluten free diet!!!! You can get gluten free oats and then make your own granola and flapjacks!!!

Spelt is a type of wheat and therefore not suitable for a wheat-free diet. Many people seem to be able to tolerate it which is lucky for them, but at the end of the day it is still wheat.

The specialist who diagnosed my wheat allergy gave me this information, so I would trust that he knows what he is talking about.

HardyEustace

Is it gluten or wheat that a lot of irish people are allergic or have an intolerance to?

metamorphosis

HardyEustace wrote: »

Is it gluten or wheat that a lot of irish people are allergic or have an intolerance to?

Afaik, and i'm open to correction, most people in some shape are intolerant to wheat. However, most people do not feel any side effects of it in their diet to realise this and many people do not make the connection that some of their gastro probs may be related to wheat. Gotta love wheat though.

El_Dangeroso

Yep, you can only be truly allergic to the protein in a food.

Gluten = allergy
Wheat = intolerance.

cosnochta

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Yep, you can only be truly allergic to the protein in a food.

Gluten = allergy
Wheat = intolerance.

This is not true. You can be allergic to any of the different components of wheat.

You can get more information about this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_allergy

El_Dangeroso

Sorry, yes you are correct, but it is only the other proteins that you can be allergic to, and it would be rare to be allergic to the other proteins in wheat and not to gluten.

cosnochta

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Sorry, yes you are correct, but it is only the other proteins that you can be allergic to, and it would be rare to be allergic to the other proteins in wheat and not to gluten.

Again, this is not true. You can also be allergic to the serine proteinase inhibitors. These are not proteins.

Also, it is actually quite common to be allergic to something in wheat, but not to gluten.

This misconception often comes about when people confuse a wheat or gluten allergy to coeliacs disease (which is actually an autoimmune disorder of the small intestine).
http://www.coeliac.org.uk/coeliac_disease/what_is_it/default.asp

El_Dangeroso

cosnochta wrote: »

Again, this is not true. You can also be allergic to the serine proteinase inhibitors. These are not proteins.

Are you sure? I thought serine proteinase inhibitors (serpins) were proteins:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpins

cosnochta wrote: »

Also, it is actually quite common to be allergic to something in wheat, but not to gluten.

Interesting, do you have access to have any stat's on that? I know the 1% figure for celiacs but haven't seen data on wheat allergy without celiac disease.

pikachucheeks

cosnochta wrote: »

Just wondering how this is going for you. Probably too early to have a noticeable improvement in your symptons but keep at it.

Best of luck

Thanks very much

It was my 21st last weekend, so I had a few small slip ups, but I'm back on track now

I actually do feel better already, I'm not half as blocked up or "stuffy" as I used to be.

Thanks so much to everyone for your suggestions and advice, really appreciate the feedback

I'm considering starting one of those food diary things, so I'll let you know if I do and you can tear my diet to shreds!

cosnochta

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Are you sure? I thought serine proteinase inhibitors (serpins) were proteins:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpins

Don't know how to put it into quotes, but this is taken from the Serine Proteinase wikipedia entry:
Serine proteases or serine endopeptidases (newer name) are proteases (enzymes that cut peptide bonds in proteins) in which one of the amino acids at the active site is serine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serine_proteinase

As far as I know, serpins and serine proteases are not the same thing. Then again, I'm not a scientist or a doctor, so I could be misunderstanding things!

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Interesting, do you have access to have any stat's on that? I know the 1% figure for celiacs but haven't seen data on wheat allergy without celiac disease.

I'm afraid I don't have any stats. I have a wheat allergy but not coeliacs disease. I am also not allergic to gluten. This was diagnosed by a specialist after months of tests. He told me that there are many people that have undiagnosed wheat allergies, and that of those people that are referred to him a higher percentage have a wheat allergy than coeliacs disease.

Interestingly enough, he said that Irish people have a higher predisposition to having a wheat allerg, and more specifically people who have roots in Kerry (Dingle and Blasket areas) have an even higher predisposition again! Funnily enough, my ancestors hail from the blaskets, so who knows!

El_Dangeroso

Ah yes, serine proteases aren't proteins but serine protease inhibitors are..I can't pretend to fully understand it myself either.. still learning!

As far as I know though the definition of a food allergy is an immune response to a protein.

V. interesting on the wheat but not gluten allergy front. Most people lump it in with celiac disease, myself included

Does that mean you can have rye or barley with no issues?

cosnochta

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

V. interesting on the wheat but not gluten allergy front. Most people lump it in with celiac disease, myself included

Does that mean you can have rye or barley with no issues?

Until I was diagnosed I would have also lumped wheat and gluten allergies together with coeliacs disease. In fact, I thought they were all the same thing. I've learned a lot since then!

Yes, I can have rye and barley with no issue, but can't tolerate spelt or semolina.