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STS-129,Atlantis - 12/11/09

  • 22-09-2009 11:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭


    Oh yes indeedy,Discovery may have only gotten back to KSC but processing of Atlantis for STS-129 is well advanced. Atlantis will be heading on an 11 day mission to the ISS. There's pics of the ET and SRB's being mated today at KSC at the link below. She's due to roll out to 39a sometime around October 13th.

    More images here:http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=204


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    This will be the-
    160th American manned space flight
    129th shuttle mission
    31st flight of Atlantis
    31st shuttle mission to the ISS
    104th post Challenger mission
    16th post Columbia mission
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    God speeed Atlantis!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    They haven't given a launch time yet, have t hey? It would seem daft if they had! Here's the mission [front] page:

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts129/index.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Lord Lucan You are Very bold for starting the STS-129 thread Already!!(secretly i LOVE it)gives us time for many pre-flight tears to shed as the STS programme comes to an end,We have approx a year before we will have to enter detox:)

    Beeker You dark horse(starting the Ares-1-x thread:))
    good facts about the STS on this one(i read one time that the best estimated LOV&C by NASA was 1 in 100 before the first one flew.
    amazing that the iss was built in such relativly short amount of missions!!!!
    also compare that origional estimate by NASA to LL,s link on the Extending the Shuttle thread,the guy NASA resented now estimates it at 1 in 8)
    and really at the end of Your stats i thought you were going to add........and a Partridge in a pear tree:D

    Kevstar You should punch Lord Lucan on the nose for Stealing what has become a tradition of YOU starting the STS,s threads(if you can find him:D)and believe it or not NASA DO have a launch time for STS-129 and thankfully it will be much more European time friendly!Date: Nov. 12 +
    Mission: STS-129
    Launch Vehicle: Space Shuttle Atlantis
    Launch Site: Kennedy Space Center - Launch Pad 39A
    Launch Time: 4:04 p.m. EST
    Description: Space shuttle Atlantis will deliver components including two spare gyroscopes, two nitrogen tank assemblies, two pump modules, an ammonia tank assembly and a spare latching end effector for the station's robotic arm to the International Space Station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    so thats 9pm our time, will it pass over us again after lift off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    Easter Standard Time (EST)? - Ah bugger - They were using EDT before. So, what's this then... ...That would make it 10:04PM British/Irish Summer Time (B/IST)? Or will we be back to GMT at that stage? If so, it'll be 9:04PM as skelliser implies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    Just noticed this site and it seems cool enough: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    Kevster wrote: »
    Easter Standard Time (EST)? - Ah bugger - They were using EDT before. So, what's this then... ...That would make it 10:04PM British/Irish Summer Time (B/IST)? Or will we be back to GMT at that stage? If so, it'll be 9:04PM as skelliser implies.

    lol, ya that bst can wreck your head sometimes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    skelliser wrote: »
    lol, ya that bst can wreck your head sometimes!

    lol , couldnt we just do irish time and make it pass over when we want it to , hey Beeker , you got any good contacts in Nasa LOL :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Kevster wrote: »
    Easter Standard Time (EST)? - Ah bugger - They were using EDT before. So, what's this then... ...That would make it 10:04PM British/Irish Summer Time (B/IST)? Or will we be back to GMT at that stage? If so, it'll be 9:04PM as skelliser implies.

    Could be worse Kev! every now and then NASA use Central Standard Time(CST)which is 1 hour further west in the states,add to that the US in general puts its clocks back sometimes two weeks&sometimes a month diffriently to us............................:confused:

    and to add to the confusion although Launchs are controlled at the Kennedy Space Centre(good place to launch is Florida as if craft is lost it falls into sea)

    It is THEN in the hands of mission control in Heuston,TEXAS.
    WHY the hell is that?
    because PoloTHICKins would never leave NASA alone!
    It just so happened that Prez L B Johnson the vice president and ex Senator from Texas was sworn in once Kennedy was declared dead!
    by strange co-incidence mission control ended up in Texas:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I am afraid Irish Launch time give or take an hour is still much of a muchness in terms of us seeing the post launch flyover like the previous two missions.

    Sunset on Nov 12th is at 5:30pm Irish time. A 9pm flyover 3.5-4 hours later will put the shuttle which will be about 200 miles above at that point well within earths shadow I would imagine.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    Calibos wrote: »
    I am afraid Irish Launch time give or take an hour is still much of a muchness in terms of us seeing the post launch flyover like the previous two missions.

    Sunset on Nov 12th is at 5:30pm Irish time. A 9pm flyover 3.5-4 hours later will put the shuttle which will be about 200 miles above at that point well within earths shadow I would imagine.

    Yeah the launch is scheduled for 16:04 EST {Eastern Standard Time} which will be 21:04 here in Ireland so it will not be visible I'm afraid.

    I'll have a chat with my contacts in NASA and see if they will launch earlier;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Beeker wrote: »
    I'll have a chat with my contacts in NASA and see if they will launch earlier;)

    And while you're at it Beeker tell them she has to go Nov. 12th or i'll lose the plot altogether!:p


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    lord lucan wrote: »
    And while you're at it Beeker tell them she has to go Nov. 12th or i'll lose the plot altogether!:p

    I forgot are you still planing to get out for the launch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Beeker wrote: »
    I forgot are you still planing to get out for the launch?

    Yeah i am. Im flying over Nov. 10th. I'm trying not to think about it too much,still plenty of time for various niggles to appear and push back the launch.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    lord lucan wrote: »
    Yeah i am. Im flying over Nov. 10th. I'm trying not to think about it too much,still plenty of time for various niggles to appear and push back the launch.
    I wish you the very best of luck, Fingers crossed it works out my friend!
    Look forward to photos afterwards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Beeker wrote: »
    I wish you the very best of luck, Fingers crossed it works out my friend!
    Look forward to photos afterwards!

    I've fingers,toes and everything else crossed!!:p


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    Heres a copy of an old post by me to wet you appetite!!

    I'd like to share with you an experience I had last November in Florida. I traveled over to witness the launch of the Space Shuttle Endeavour. The shuttle programme began on April 12th 1981, this launch was the 124th launch, and in that time there were two disasters, Challenger on January 28th 1986 and Columbia on February 1st 2003.
    The general public get to view the launch from about 12 miles away along the Indian River. I was lucky enough to get a ticket to view from inside the Kennedy Space Centre from about 6 miles. Nobody can view from closer that 3 miles and for a very good reason, the shuttle has the explosive power of a nuclear bomb while on the pad.

    To get a good spot you need to stake a claim to a position hours before, so I arrived with my camping chair, book and mp3 player 8 hours prior to launch. A large TV screen was set up to give full coverage of the countdown in the hours before so we could follow what was going on. 3 and a half hours to go and the astronauts are strapped in and the hatch closed. Two hours prior to launch and it started to get dark, this was going to be a night launch. As the final countdown began a large crowd had gathered at the viewing site. T- 9 minutes, final checks are under way at launch control. I check my camera and make sure I have spare batteries. T – 5 minutes getting close now, onboard fuel cells started to provide electricity for the orbiter during its flight. T- 3 minutes engine steering and orbiter flight control systems are checked. T – 1 minute, I’m in the unreal stage, could this really happen? I have planned this trip for many years and know that over 50% of all launches are delayed for one reason or another. Would my luck hold? T-31 seconds, looking good now as Endeavours computers take over control of the final countdown. There are so many systems to check and monitor now, that humans cannot do it fast enough so the computers make the decisions. T- 10 seconds 9,8,7,6 command given for the shuttles 3 main engines to start. They start at 6 seconds before launch in order to have time to reach 100% thrust, computers check that they have reached 100% and are running normally, if not launch is aborted as has happened many times in the past.
    Einstein was right about time being relative, the next 6 seconds take an eternity 3…people start to stand up…2…I’m on my feet camera ready…1, the time has arrived at last, I have waited 24 years for this very moment. 0….onboard computers send the firing command to the shuttles 2 solid rocket boosters. 7 million pounds of thrust is released as the shuttle lifts off the pad. The sky lights up like a brilliant sunrise.
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    By the time the shuttle clears its launch tower it is already travelling in excess of 100 miles per hour. What a sight! It climbs quickly into the night sky like a huge ball of fire. TV views and photos come no where near showing the reality of it, it is incredible, The flames are bright orange not white as the TV images show.
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    Within 40 seconds it breaks the sound barrier. Slowly you start to hear the sound. Light travels faster that sound so you see it before you hear it, a deep rumble in the sky, like velvet being ripped, it seems to be tearing the sky apart, then you feel it first in the ground as it shakes beneath you and then the sound waves hit you in the chest. It’s like someone slapping you or drumming you on the chest.
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    At 2minutes 11 seconds you see a flash as the boosters fall away to land in the Atlantic.

    picture031mediumvd8.jpg

    The sky was cloud free so I was able to watch it all the way to engine shutdown at 8 minutes 20 seconds. The shuttle was then 150 miles high and 1000 miles out over the Atlantic travelling at 17500 miles per hour that’s 5 miles per second. Amazing that you could still see the engines when it was 1000 miles away. 5 minutes later it passed the south coast of Ireland and 75 minutes after that it was back over Florida. 90 minutes to circle the planet.

    picture036mediumlt4.jpg

    What an experience, what a night! There is something amazing about watching people leave the planet. Pity it took 3 hours to drive back to the hotel just 8 miles away.

    Good luck Lord Lucan!!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Where were you staying Beeker,Titusville?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    lord lucan wrote: »
    Where were you staying Beeker,Titusville?

    The ramada Inn Titusville. Cheap but chearfull!

    http://www.ramadaksc.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    Beeker wrote: »
    I wish you the very best of luck, Fingers crossed it works out my friend!
    Look forward to photos afterwards!

    lord lucan , I second that , best of luck and bring back plenty of pics :D

    Hope all goes well !!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    Beeker wrote: »
    Heres a copy of an old post by me to wet you appetite!!

    I'd like to share with you an experience I had last November in Florida.



    Beeker , thanks for that post , must have been amazing to experience a liftoff , enjoyed reading about it , Tnx
    Stargate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Beeker wrote: »
    The ramada Inn Titusville. Cheap but chearfull!

    http://www.ramadaksc.com/

    I've provisionally booked a Holiday Inn Select at Orlando airport. I don't drive(not cars anyways) so i'm going down the gray line route. They do a pick up from that hotel so it's handy enough.

    I may try buy an LTT when it goes on sale as there's more restrictions on the tour tickets,it'll be handy as back up if there's a scrub.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    Stargate wrote: »
    Beeker wrote: »
    Heres a copy of an old post by me to wet you appetite!!

    I'd like to share with you an experience I had last November in Florida.


    Beeker , thanks for that post , must have been amazing to experience a liftoff , enjoyed reading about it , Tnx
    Stargate

    Oh yeah what an experience! That was my second shuttle launch and would love to see another. Better than sex.....well.....yeah it is!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    I'll pretend I'm not seething with jealousy :D I was at KSC when Atlantis was rolled out to 39A for its previous flight STS125 but it wasnt launching for another few weeks so I missed the best part. I am aiming to see a live launch before the death of the space shuttle next year. Till then, STS129 et al, will be watched online, at ungodly hours of the night!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Beeker wrote: »
    Stargate wrote: »

    Oh yeah what an experience! That was my second shuttle launch and would love to see another. Better than sex.....well.....yeah it is!:D


    Beeker whats sex like?:o:o:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Beeker whats sex like?:o:o:o

    Lol.:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Beeker wrote: »


    Beeker whats sex like?:o:o:o


    LoL @ ynotdu , Beeker youd better watch out hahaha :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Beeker wrote: »


    Beeker whats sex like?:o:o:o

    We are all waiting on Beekers answer LOLOLOL :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Stargate wrote: »
    ynotdu wrote: »

    We are all waiting on Beekers answer LOLOLOL :D:D:D

    He has PM,d me to say he will be taking photo's over the weekend and will post them once approved by a mod;):D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭calchas


    that was cool. thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    And a longer video which shows what goes on behind the scenes at Dryden.

    http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/archive/sts-125/day14/replay15.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Here's a look inside the Astrovan which brings the astronauts from Crew quarters to the pad.

    http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/archive/sts-128/replay4.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Nice ones LL! I had never seen a shuttle being berthed to a 747 before,quite an operation(these guys can do ANYthing they turn their minds to!)

    I wonder does anybody know are the pilots of the jumbo NASA or USAF?

    eerie view from the inside of the Astronaut transport vehicle(almost the last sight they see before they arriave at their possible gallows)it also helps to get an overall view of KSC(for instance i did not realise they pass by the VAB to reach the pad)

    glad You went to the effort to post them,quite honestly it never occured to me to even search for those video's.

    hope anybody reading the thread posts even the most trivial(to them)facts,figures,thoughts,photo's,video's as it is all of interest to me(hopefully others too,but i can only speak for myself!:))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Nice ones LL! I had never seen a shuttle being berthed to a 747 before,quite an operation(these guys can do ANYthing they turn their minds to!)

    I wonder does anybody know are the pilots of the jumbo NASA or USAF?

    Here's their blog!:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Here's a video(it's pretty long) called 'Astronauts as filmmakers'. It's footage filmed by the crew of Atlantis on STS-125 on the Hubble repair mission. Some great footage in it,worth watching both for the footage and the astronauts thoughts on it all.

    http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/archive/ns/replay7.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    For detailed facts and figures and some cool pictures the official NASA press kit for each STS mission is required reading. Here's a link to the press kit for the last mission,STS-128 as an example.

    http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/379392main_STS-128_Press_Kit.pdf

    The press kit for STS-129 won't be out until around halloween or so.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Beeker wrote: »


    Beeker whats sex like?:o:o:o

    Sorry was not on-line over the weekend!
    I read in a book that sex is great!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Beeker wrote: »
    I read in a book that sex is great!:D

    The Karma Sutra!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    Beeker wrote: »
    ynotdu wrote: »

    Sorry was not on-line over the weekend!
    I read in a book that sex is great!:D

    LoL @ Beeker , must be some read Beeker , youve been missing a while hehehehe :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Hi,ya Beeker,well if it is true that the Karma Sutra is Your paper/diagram form of porn then i guess your video porn collection is of STS-69?:D:D

    Lord Lucan i could not view the NASA pdf(its a fault on my laptop)I DID watch the Astronauts as filmakers in its entirety though.You know i think that flight to Hubble will be forever my favourite one.The crew are as funny in your vid as they were on the flight itself,pity Megan was'nt there as she was SO funny as well.I know most crews tend to bond,but they in particulor seemed to do so more than most,the whole flight was full of courage,improvisation and Craic!
    Spectaculor view of lift-off from the just seperated srb!!!
    The last goodbye pat on the hubble(theres never a crying emocian when i need one!:))The humour about the Star Trek movie being beamed up for crew entertainment,and then finally the slides of the first pictures back from the newly repaired Hubble,CLASSIC!(you should also post it to filmaking thread as i think they would love the IMAX chat?

    Well for Launch Junkies dont forget that the ISS-21 mission crew are being launched tomorrow morning at 08.14 on a Soyuz with NASA tv coverage starting at 07.30!

    Godspeed Soyuz TMA-16:)
    I know,i know it does not have the same ring as Godspeed STS-129 but at this stage beggers can't be choosers:D
    Oh and btw what was THIS on sts-115:eek:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTuZh-McVbQ&feature=PlayList&p=55F4C06DC6C3D408&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Hi,ya Beeker,well if it is true that the Karma Sutra is Your paper/diagram form of porn then i guess your video porn collection is of STS-69?:D:D

    Lord Lucan i could not view the NASA pdf(its a fault on my laptop)I DID watch the Astronauts as filmakers in its entirety though.You know i think that flight to Hubble will be forever my favourite one.The crew are as funny in your vid as they were on the flight itself,pity Megan was'nt there as she was SO funny as well.I know most crews tend to bond,but they in particulor seemed to do so more than most,the whole flight was full of courage,improvisation and Craic!
    Spectaculor view of lift-off from the just seperated srb!!!
    The last goodbye pat on the hubble(theres never a crying emocian when i need one!:))The humour about the Star Trek movie being beamed up for crew entertainment,and then finally the slides of the first pictures back from the newly repaired Hubble,CLASSIC!(you should also post it to filmaking thread as i think they would love the IMAX chat?

    Well for Launch Junkies dont forget that the STS-21 mission crew are being launched tomorrow morning at 08.14 on a Soyuz with NASA tv coverage starting at 07.30!

    Godspeed Soyuz TMA-16:)
    I know,i know it does not have the same ring as Godspeed STS-129 but at this stage beggers can't be choosers:D
    Oh and btw what was THIS on sts-115:eek:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTuZh-McVbQ&feature=PlayList&p=55F4C06DC6C3D408&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21
    STS 69 was a great flight! :) Always a great number!!!!
    That footage is of the upper stage from a satellite just launched from the Shuttle. I would guess a PAM motor from one of the pre Challenger flights. It has been mixed with audio from a different flight discussing some orbital debris spotted by the crew. Both video and audio are not connected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Beeker! You reprinted my mistake of saying STS-21 instead of ISS-21 crew:o:o:o:o:o:o

    The thing about Soyuz launchs is that they always GO on time!
    so few sensors on a Soyuz they only abort when their assss is on fire:eek::)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    ynotdu wrote: »
    Beeker! You reprinted my mistake of saying STS-21 instead of ISS-21 crew:o:o:o:o:o:o
    Correct:o:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    well if ya add 21 to 69 the Craic would be NINTY!:)(hope thats not just a Dublin expression:))


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    ynotdu wrote: »
    well if ya add 21 to 69 the Craic would be NINTY!:)(hope thats not just a Dublin expression:))
    Nah that's a universal one! The Soyuz launch is at 08:14 Irish time tomorrow morning live on NASA TV.
    Nice early start on my day off:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Beeker wrote: »
    Nah that's a universal one! The Soyuz launch is at 08:14 Irish time tomorrow morning live on NASA TV.
    Nice early start on my day off:)
    Davajte zdelajim etot forum, ja za!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    STS 129 progressing at the Kennedy Space Center this week;
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    Payload bay doors being closed in the Orbiter processing facility.

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    STS 129 tank and boosters stacked and waiting for Atlantis to be attached next week in the vehicle assembly building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    Apart from Youtube , theres a lot of great stuff on Liveleak , such as

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eb9_1252724418

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1bf_1253552390

    And of special interest to Beeker and LL :D

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=47d_1251520960

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eff_1247339070

    Stargate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Thanks Stargate,some good stuff on there!:cool:


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