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  • 20-09-2009 6:53pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭


    Pretend you live in dublin and have a job in the city centre. The year is 2025 and you cannot leave your job. You need somewhere to live and are faced with two choices;

    1. Live in a high rise apartment complex within walking distance from the city centre or,

    2. Spend 3 hours in a car every day travelling to and from the arse end of meath.

    What do you pick?

    high rise living...... 78 votes

    I'm all for it
    0% 0 votes
    A house is a house, location isn't that important
    73% 57 votes
    I'd rather die than see dublin turn into a proper city
    26% 21 votes


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Well that's a toughie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    pretend...you very funny


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Pint


    Both

    An apartment for commuting during the week and a house to retire to at the weekends.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Pretend you live in dublin and have a job in the city centre. The year is 2025 and you cannot leave your job. You need somewhere to live and are faced with two choices;

    1. Live in a high rise apartment complex within walking distance from the city centre or,

    2. Spend 3 hours in a car every day travelling to and from the arse end of meath.

    What do you pick?

    Your in a tough one!

    You can work all day and rest, then get up and do the same thing again for the next four days.
    Day 6 and 7 you will just collapse and try to recover your energy anyway.

    Do this for 25/30 years, what are you left with mortgage-wise?
    An apartment in Dublin or a home in the country which either - after its hopefully paid off, you can give two fingers to the Dublin job?

    Which one do you consider working towards?
    Either way, you will be doing the same hours at work, the extra hours there and forth might be considered a form of further payment for the better of the two situations.

    Can you stay with a friend sometimes in Dublin and share?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    Medium density housing is one of the major curses of the Irish economy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Pretend you live in dublin and have a job in the city centre. The year is 2025 and you cannot leave your job. You need somewhere to live and are faced with two choices;

    1. Live in a high rise apartment complex within walking distance from the city centre or,

    2. Spend 3 hours in a car every day travelling to and from the arse end of meath.

    What do you pick?

    How about an apartment in the arse end of Meath?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Biggins wrote: »
    Can you stay with a friend sometimes in Dublin and share?

    No, you are in a long term relationship and want to live with your partner. Children are likely to involved somewhere down the line.

    Also, I probably should have made it clearer. Option 2 in the poll is the house with the hour and a half commute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    If you want kids and a dog it an apartment is going to be a bit cramped.

    If kids might be coming down the line i'd say: Lease an apartment and start to think about buying a house in a couple of years for when kids come along.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    It would depend on personal circumstances tbh,married,kids etc. But in saying that i couldnt see myself living in an appartment,i prefer my own house,dunno why maybe cause it was drilled into me by my mum since i was younger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 REAL LIFE HOOD


    dublin has lots of space it would never be high density.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    dublin has lots of space it would never be high density.

    Yep Dublin has sooooo much space,thats why people commute every day from meath,louth,wicklow,wexford etc. Theres not that much space left now thanks to the urban sprawl that developers caused during the "celtic pussycat"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    If you want kids and a dog it an apartment is going to be a bit cramped.

    If kids might be coming down the line i'd say: Lease an apartment and start to think about buying a house in a couple of years for when kids come along.

    Even with the huge commute?

    It's a 3 bedroom apartment of a suprisingly decent size (not huge, but not cramped either).
    Is it really that bad to raise kids in an apartment?

    How far out would the house have to be for you to choose an apartment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Off-topic I know cos the OP is about a hypothetical city centre job, but why does all talk of long commutes always presume that everyone commutes long distances to work in the city centre from the suburbs. I'm in my third job since 2001 and none of them have involved a straight outward or inward journey from the city.

    On-topic: I'm all for high-rise living but not in the miserable dog-boxes that pass for apartments here. I also prefer living a bit further out so you have a mix of quiet living with space, but can still socialize and shop in the city.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Its about time Dublin starts developing high rise buildings...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cianos wrote: »
    Medium density housing in the wrong place is one of the major curses of the Irish economy.
    fyp

    Properly designed suburbs with integrated transport to the city centre & places of work would help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    whats a proper city, all you highrise lovers ... one word nama, the developers fuked it up themselves

    do you guys want to live here

    http://vice.typepad.com/vice_magazine/2009/04/japan-my-trip-to-battleship-island.html

    bladerunner was **** hole not an aspiration


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 maggiemae


    Apartments have a better sense of security than houses out in the country.
    Houses in the country will give you space to have a garden.
    You have to maintain the garden
    You can weigh the pros and cons for ages but at the end of the day if you have a family they will have a better lifestyle in the country house than they will in the city center apartment.
    You commuting though will mean that you will never personally be able to enjoy the benefits of the countryside.. Your potential kids will enjoy it though when they aren't missing their parents


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    GTFO of Ireland is what I'd do. Especially in 2025...

    Seriously though I'd pick the apartment because Dublin's the only place in Ireland thats decent enough to live in. Even then it's a kip...


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Even with the huge commute?

    It's a 3 bedroom apartment of a suprisingly decent size (not huge, but not cramped either).
    Is it really that bad to raise kids in an apartment?

    How far out would the house have to be for you to choose an apartment?

    YES YES YES

    I live in a very large 3 bed apartment. It's lovely. There's nothing about it not to like. The dart is 150 metres away. There are only 11 apartments in the block.

    My 5 year old daughter has noone to play with. There is a communal garden but it's not like there are other kids in it. I hate it for her. It's horrible. Seeing as it's not worth what I paid for it though I won't be selling. Instead, I'm going to rent it out after christmas and rent a nice house somewhere nearby. It's not fair to raise kids in apartments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    an apartment,please.
    city centre.
    i don't want to spend 2-3 hours everyday in traffic.
    life's too short.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,389 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Ignoring the convience of having an apartment in Dublin City Centre. A house would be too big for little old me:D a nice apartment is all I want. But then again, the OP never mentioned what conditions the house or apartment would be in, so for all we know we could proberly be put into a dump of a place. But nonetheless an apartment would be fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    YES YES YES

    I live in a very large 3 bed apartment. It's lovely. There's nothing about it not to like. The dart is 150 metres away. There are only 11 apartments in the block.

    My 5 year old daughter has noone to play with. There is a communal garden but it's not like there are other kids in it. I hate it for her. It's horrible. Seeing as it's not worth what I paid for it though I won't be selling. Instead, I'm going to rent it out after christmas and rent a nice house somewhere nearby. It's not fair to raise kids in apartments.

    Surely if other people were doing it then your daughter would have someone to play with?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    I come from flats..... Need i say more! If i had a choice i would always say a house but I can see your point.

    To save 3 hours I would buy an apt and spend the 3 hours bringing the 6 kids that p1ss on the landing to the park:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    I'ld feel more safe living in a decent apartment (with security and all) with many people around me than living all alone in a house where anyone can break in anytime and no one would really care!

    Also I don't need too big a place to live. A 2 bed apartment would be perfect for me. But i'ld like it to be clean, modern and with a decent view!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Commuting is awful. Definitely apartment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I couldn't live with either, if thats the choices.

    To the person who said they couldn't live in the countryside, were anyone could just break in, have you ever lived somewhere rural? The biggest reason is the neighbors, they keep an eye on my house, as do i for theirs, I've lived in a 7 story apartment block and i would never do it again, i didn't feel safer at all. If i was still there today i'd blow my brains out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Oliver1985


    It would have to be the appartment for sure!! I did 3 hours commuting for 2 years in a job 5 days a week! Well in good starting out but it gets a major pain now!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭IzzyWizzy


    YES YES YES

    I live in a very large 3 bed apartment. It's lovely. There's nothing about it not to like. The dart is 150 metres away. There are only 11 apartments in the block.

    My 5 year old daughter has noone to play with. There is a communal garden but it's not like there are other kids in it. I hate it for her. It's horrible. Seeing as it's not worth what I paid for it though I won't be selling. Instead, I'm going to rent it out after christmas and rent a nice house somewhere nearby. It's not fair to raise kids in apartments.

    You know, I was brought up in a lovely big house with a huge garden with loads of space to play. And I hated it. It was a typical house in the country, quite isolated, no next door neighbours, nobody to play with. As a teenager it was even worse - hardly any buses so I had no independence at all, I was stuck in the house every summer with nothing to do. It had a really detrimental effect on my social skills and confidence. I would have absolutely loved to have lived in a city, on an estate or in a block with loads of other people, to have been able to get the DART or bus into town whenever I wanted. I know not everyone in a house is this isolated and that many live in estates, but it's not as simple as saying houses are better than apartments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,389 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I'ld feel more safe living in a decent apartment (with security and all) with many people around me than living all alone in a house where anyone can break in anytime and no one would really care!

    Also I don't need too big a place to live. A 2 bed apartment would be perfect for me. But i'ld like it to be clean, modern and with a decent view!

    whoa whoa slow down, an apartment with two beds AND a decent view. Someone wants to live on the wildside;)

    Seriously though a nice apartment with a safe enviornment would be nice


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    In 2025 we'll all be living in hover houses.


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