Legal Highs: What's your poison?

Pat Sheen

This is not a definitive list of ingredients but hopefully a reasonable stab at the most likely candidates post the BZP ban. All have been found, either alone or in combination, in UK analyses on seized pills as well as on test purchases made from headshops. I would guess that most of the following will remain the actives in legal high pills and powders until they are banned in the UK in the very near future. Likely here too soon thereafter. I have kept the descriptions brief as these substance are all described in much greater detail elsewhere.

Methylone, beta-keto-MDMA. A milder and shorter acting MDMA-like substance. Uncommon in legals. Possibly similar neurotoxic qualities to MDMA but not confirmed.

Ethylone, beta-keto-MDEA. Very similar to above but weaker. Found only rarely in legals. Probably less used due to it's lack of potency compared to methylone.

Butylone, beta-keto-MBDB, like methylone but with an extra carbon, so 4 instead of 3, on the side chain. Less empathic then methylone.

Mephedrone, N,para-dimethylcathinone, p-methylmethcathinone. Stimulant said to have similar effects to MDMA. Seems to have worrying side-effects (heart, blood pressure, circulation) as well as having a strong compulsive quality.

Metamfepramone, N,N-dimethylcathinone. Weak stimulant.

Ethcathinone, N-Ethylcathinone. Stimulant.

Flephedrone, para-fluoromethcathinone, 4-fluoromethacathinone. Reportedly a stimulant. Probably weak.

3-Fluoromethcathinone. Unknown

2-Fluoromethcathinone. Unknown

MDPV, Methylenedioxypyrovalerone, 3,4-methylenedioxyvalerophenone. Stimulant. Some users report very negative effects, even with small doses, such as severe headaches while others can achieve some amount of stimulation without negative side-effects. Said to be horribly compulsive even when little stimulation is felt. Highly likely to induce anxiety at higher doses or prolonged use.

Desoxy, Desoxypipradrol, Diphenyl-2-piperidinemethane. A strong stimulant with a very, very (too) long duration. Compulsive. It gets metabolised slowly so even though the mental effect may have worn off it's present in high levels in the body. Rare found in legals probably because of the significant overdose danger.

D2PM, Diphenylprolinol, Diphenyl-2-pyrrolidinemethanol. Structurally similar to desoxy. Said to be less pleasant, less active and shorter acting. Compulsive.

mCPP, meta-Chlorophenylpiperazine. Relative of BZP. High incidence of migraine headache among users (~10%).

Caffeine. Usually added in unpleasantly high doses.

Ephedrine. Mild stimulant.

Synephrine. Supposedly similar to ephedrine.

Glaucine. Anti-tussive alkaloid. Possible sedative and mild hallucinogen

ronnie3585

Tall buildings.

TheZohanS

Ihadadrine.

Knocks you straight out and you feel really refreshed after it, works best if you have it with islepalone.

brummytom

Nothing, I don't like taking anything that messes me up...

kavoweb

Which of the legal highs would be most likely to contain mephedrone?? i used to enjoy the diablo xxx pills occasionally when they were still bzp based but dont bother with much of anything now. I enjoy the sensory end of things,loved up,buzzed sensations..... any recommendations mate?

Ally Dick

Sniffing a dead crow in a bag or Knorr Aromat

Professey Chin

Life.Feckin druggies

Prof.Badass

So we're just talking about the pills then?

You'd think if they've tested these pills in the uk they would release the results. Kinda wankerish of them tbh.

Also, you forgot about DMAA, meOPP and mCPP.

humanji

Alcohol. For all the bullsh*t about it being bad for you, it still makes me impervious to abuse, makes me more attractive to women and gives me superhuman athletic ability.

Theta

TheZohan wrote: »

Ihadadrine.

Knocks you straight out and you feel really refreshed after it, works best if you have it with islepalone.

Haha

doctor evil

Kittens for me.

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

Pat Sheen

kavoweb wrote: »

Which of the legal highs would be most likely to contain mephedrone?? i used to enjoy the diablo xxx pills occasionally when they were still bzp based but dont bother with much of anything now. I enjoy the sensory end of things,loved up,buzzed sensations..... any recommendations mate?

If I recommended anything I would only be guessing, the manufacturers don't list ingredients.

biko

Beer and cigarettes - Man drugs

sbsquarepants

BZP was horrible next day. Mephedrone kicks ass!!
Hawain baby woodrose seeds pack a fair punch too. Salvia is one to consider doesn't work every time for some reason but when it works, my god it works. Remember too - just cos it's legal doesn't mean it cant kill you (case in point alcohol and tobacco) so be carefull especially with mephedrone, i cant imagine the others doing too much harm but don't quote me on that

Wazdakka

Cheesing

Pat Sheen

vinylmesh wrote: »

So we're just talking about the pills then?

You'd think if they've tested these pills in the uk they would release the results. Kinda wankerish of them tbh.

Also, you forgot about DMAA, meOPP and mCPP.

I reported all those I found had been shown present in analyses. meOPP, like TFMPP is usually used in combination with BZP and is probably not used alone. I didn't find DMAA in any analysis and at best I thinks it is a red herring no stronger than caffeine.

Prof.Badass

Pat Sheen wrote: »

I reported all those I found had been shown present in analyses. meOPP, like TFMPP is usually used in combination with BZP and is probably not used alone. I didn't find DMAA in any analysis and at best I thinks it is a red herring no stronger than caffeine.

meOPP is a listed ingredient in these pills.

DMAA (geranamine) is a listed ingredient in at least these pills.

Also, Mephedrone is really nasty stuff. Lots of complaints of bad side effects. The type that even overdoses of crack or meth don't give you. People complaining of loss of feeling in their hands/feet, their bodies going blue and long-lasting heart problems among other things.
My advice would be to stay the fuck away. From what is known so far, methylone seems like a much safer option.

genericguy

Kitten huffing ftw

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kitten_Huffing

none of those street drugs for genericguy.

CantGetNoSleep

Op, that post is way too long for AH, just tell us how to get off our t1ts, we don't want to be reading your sh1t

g5fd6ow0hseima

Whats the stuff similar to MDMA (minus one molecule im told) which is nicknamed something along the lines of 'meff' or 'meph'? Is it Methylone?

Neamhshuntasach

Ayahuasca, San Pedro cactus or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose. They all do the trick for me. Although i'd only take ayahuasca with a shamen.

cranky bollix

mephrodene - but i dont think ya can get it in headshops.think ya have to get it online - id like to be corrected on that though

Fratton Fred

is it true the chemical name for Viagra is mycoxafloppin?

df1985

i tried poppers recently and i havent laughed that hard in a long time.the feeling is very strange.

My name is URL

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/30357659/South+Park+cheesing.jpg

chin_grin

Life.

Pace2008

Mephedrone and methylone are really, really good, and can be bought easily and cheaply from online RC vendors. As mentioned above though, mephedrone doesn't seem to be safe at all. You can never really have enough of it, so there's a definite risk of addiction, and the evidence so far seems to indicate it's cardiotoxic - my heart definitely wasn't too pleased with me after I took it.

I've had some far-out trips on DXM (cough medicine) but it generally leaves me feeling very dysphoric and I don't touch it anymore.

Salvia's worth taking just for the experience though I've never heard it described as enjoyable by anyone.

Pretty much any other legal drug I've tried has been ineffective or, much more commonly, way too strong, or had horrible side effects that far outweighed any of the positives.

bertie4evr

fap fap fap

sbsquarepants

Salvia's worth taking just for the experience though I've never heard it described as enjoyable by anyone.


I've had a few great experiences on salvia, when it works at all that is.
In general though any of the legal stuff i've tried is a pale imitation of it's less legal cousins, mephedrone being a notable exception but as already stated it's side effects aren't quite known but from personal experience i think the bad stuff you hear about it is probably exagerated, maybe i've just been lucky or maybe it effects different people in different ways but i haven't experienced any bad effects at all - based on using it maybe 10 times in total.

the_syco

None of them, as side from tabacco, and alcohol. They achieve the effects by taking out the illegal ingredients, put in legal ones, and wondering will it have the same effect.

No-one knows the long term effects of the new drugs, as most haven't been tested effectively.

sneakerfreak

kavoweb wrote: »

Which of the legal highs would be most likely to contain mephedrone?? i used to enjoy the diablo xxx pills occasionally when they were still bzp based but dont bother with much of anything now. I enjoy the sensory end of things,loved up,buzzed sensations..... any recommendations mate?

Red doves mate,available online,white gold,available online and in head good stores

http://www.smokedealer.com/index.php/partypills.html?SID=1eb0c317101b0c32e212607bbcda9e97

Pat Sheen

vinylmesh wrote: »

meOPP is a listed ingredient in these pills.

DMAA (geranamine) is a listed ingredient in at least these pills.

Yea, as I said, just the ones found in lab analyses went in the 1st post. Remember, the headshops were telling us that bzp "herbal" pills contained black pepper extract.

aidan_walsh

Alcohol, caffine and dihydrogen monoxide.

Gran Hermano

C8H10N4O2 FTW

Pat Sheen

vinylmesh wrote: »

Also, you forgot about DMAA, meOPP and mCPP.

I've added mCPP, but decided to leave out the others. If you can find analyses detailing them stick in a link. Also added 2 and 3 fluoro-mcats and glaucine and removed or actually renamed methedrone to its correct name metamfepramone.

Rabies

this thread was ....


uh...


downer

curry-muff

Skittles and Coke

crustyjuggler

sneakerfreak wrote: »

Red doves mate,available online,white gold,available online and in head good stores

http://www.smokedealer.com/index.php/partypills.html?SID=1eb0c317101b0c32e212607bbcda9e97

Whats in the red doves ?Mephedrone ? Seriously thinking about purchasing ,

STBR

I'd just like to ask who here thinks that these are in any way less damaging/life-threatening than illegal drugs?

sean0

SirDarren wrote: »

I'd just like to ask who here thinks that these are in any way less damaging/life-threatening than illegal drugs?

I don't think so, depends what "illegal" drug you want to compare them to I guess.I don't know much about them but hash is illegal and its fine so maybe there might be some that are more "damaging/life-threatening" then hash?

Remember kids drugs are bad :cool:

faceman

Friendship, love and Jesus

DarkJager

Sky High (a.k.a Pulse). Awesome ****....

Corkfeen

I've never heard of most of those.:D Sugar and caffeine gives me a major rush, the downer the next day is horrendous though.

Lia_lia

Loadsa sweeties.

zonEEE

SirDarren wrote: »

I'd just like to ask who here thinks that these are in any way less damaging/life-threatening than illegal drugs?

who gives a ****

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DarkJager

strongr wrote: »

who gives a ****

l

Completely agree. Who gives a **** whats in it when its 5 mins down the road and gets the job done with a+ results?

sean0

strongr wrote: »

who gives a ****

l

People actually often discuss that question.Some people want the "happy hippy" type shops closed.Last year there was all that debate over salvia and how it should be made illegal.So its actually a topic which alot of people seem to care about

STBR

strongr wrote: »

who gives a ****

l

Haw LAWDZ such a cooler hey

"deth dunt skare me guise"

DarkJager

SirDarren wrote: »

Haw LAWDZ such a cooler hey

"deth dunt skare me guise"

Ce de Putain?????

zonEEE

DarkJager wrote: »

Completely agree. Who gives a **** whats in it when its 5 mins down the road and gets the job done with a+ results?

straight up like

STBR

DarkJager wrote: »

Completely agree. Who gives a **** whats in it when its 5 mins down the road and gets the job done with a+ results?

Heroin and Cocaine are the same?