Phoenix Park Castleknock Gate to close

Jip

MIP wrote: »

Just wait 'til tomorrow morning! :eek:

I look forward to it ! I'll be on the bike, Mondays are the fresh clothing supply run for the office.

BostonB

I didn't hear anything about the 11am either. Only heard about it on the Dub City radio.

GSF

Quick question - will Castleknock Gate still be open to pedestrians & cyclists or is it completely closed off?

Jip

Pedestrian and cyclists can use it, presumably by the current pedestrian entrance.

celticbest

trad wrote: »

I blame celticbest. He started it.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055679018

Hi Trad,

I never looked for the installation of a permanent r'about on Chesterfield Avenue. All I wanted was the surface of Chesterfield Avenue to be upgraded!

This is possible to do without any road closures.

Do you remember about 4 to 5 years ago they resurfaced the North Circular road from the Park Gate to Aughrim Street. They did not need to close the road to do this, they stripped the top surface and then re-laid a new surface and all this was done without the road being closed as they did it by using rolling blocks on the road.

Also is 9 weeks not a bit excessive to install a roundabout on a road??

trad

Posted in jest. Both threads were running at the same time. The road is in a bad way and badly need repair. The OPW is a very slow moving beast and I'd say it had been on the cards for some time. The NCR is managed by Dublin City Council, a road authority with responsibilities to motorists whereas the OPW is not.

BostonB

I think they are fixing the drainage problems at that roundabout too.

That said they did very little today.

daymobrew

celticbest wrote: »

Also is 9 weeks not a bit excessive to install a roundabout on a road??

As BostonB says, there are serious drainage issues at that roundabout and these are being fixed at the same time.

9 weeks is a pessimistic estimate. 5 weeks is the optimistic timeframe.
I do agree that they should be working 24/7 (or near enough). The nearest neighbours are a good distance away (with plenty of trees between them) so noise should not be a big problem.

Jip

Well the N3 between Auburn Avenue and the Halfway House appeared to be its normal self today after the mess that was yesterday, but by all accounts it was a mess everywhere else around the park.

How hard is it for people to read road signs ? I was in the park yesterday evening and the amount of morons that were going around the road closed signs to try exit at Ashtown Gate was ridiculous, one twat go almost right up to the gate before a garda stopped him and made him turn around.

MIP

Thankfully I was on the road early enough to avoid the worst of it, left Laurel Lodge at 7.45 and took an hour to get in so about 15-20 mins worse than usual. Heard a lot of people were much worse off though.

Turned right off the Castleknock Road at Myo's and entered the Park at Knockmaroon Gate. Was ok apart from the stretch between Castleknock College/Farmleigh Woods and the gate which was bedlam and didn't move for about 10 mins and then only slowly so took about 20 mins to travel that little bit. Just glad I wasn't trying to get out of Carpenterstown as people couldn't turn right at the lights at Castleknock College/Farmleigh Woods because of this.

Heard on the radio it was taking about 20 mins to get from Castleknock Gate to Ashtown Gate, that about right? Were there Gardai at Ashtown Gate keeping it moving?

Am sure it'll all change again tomorrow anyway as those who got stuck this morning try different routes.

BostonB

Ditto lots of people trying to get out whites gate.

Heroditas

Does anyone know what it's like going into the park via Ashtown Gate and exiting at Knockmaroon now that the system has been changed? I go home that way every evening and usually it's ok but last year it was a nightmare when they were carrying out the roadworks at Chapelizod. I imagine it's become even more of a rat run now that people can't leave via the Castleknock gate?

BostonB

I think everyones just avoiding the park. Ive gone through on the bike around 6.30 and There doesn't seem to be much through traffic. Dunno what it's like at the gates though.

manster

Anyone know if a motorbike will fit through the gap at Whites Gate - don't want to use Castleknock Gate as it is for cyclists & pedestrians only.

BostonB

Some bikes use it, but I doubt a wide bike would get through. Just be aware theres lots of pedestrians, joggers and cyclists using that. From experience they just step through without looking. As its at the bottom of a hill cyclists usually whip through at a fair speed and you can be surprised by someone appearing in the gateway.

manster

Just came through White's Gate tonight on my motorbike - plenty of room.

BostonB

Take it easy will ya. Some rip through it then roar off away from it. They'll close it or put turnstile at it if that continues.

OnLooker

Whats the traffic like in Chapelizod in the mornings now? I will be leaving around 7.15 - 7.30 in the mornings.

I am starting a new job out on the naas road next Monday.

thomasj

I pity those people coming from clonsilla/hartstown/blakestown heading iinto town.

The roadworks on Blakestown way alongwith that joke of a traffic signal beside Lidl was having people stuck in that area for upto 30-40 minutes this morning!

Throw in the Navan Road and the old cabra Road and we were seeing massive tailbacks this morning. I would love to know how people got on on the 39 bus this morning? :eek:

BostonB

It would probably only take 60 mins or less to cycle it from the Blanch center.

Blanch center > Coolmine > Riverwood > Phoenix Park > etc.

Nevyn

I can't believe they waited for the schools to be back before starting on the road works on the blakestown road.

OnLooker

Any idea how long it would take to get through Carpenterstown & Chapelizod?

BostonB

If you listen to 103 Dublin city in the morning it would give you some idea. I'm guessing it must be at least 30 mins on a bad day. I don't go that way myself.

BostonB

They are closing Luttrellstown/Carpenterstown road in front of castleknock college for a week. Theres signs up for it on the road.. I assume they are resurfacing it. Nothing on Fingals Website.

MIP

BostonB wrote: »

They are closing Luttrellstown/Carpenterstown road in front of castleknock college for a week. Theres signs up for it on the road.. I assume they are resurfacing it. Nothing on Fingals Website.

While Castleknock Gate is closed? You really have to admire the joined up thinking and forward planning in operation in Dublin West traffic planning. :mad:

BostonB

I didn't get a good look at the signs. But I think its Oct 19~25.

Heroditas

BostonB wrote: »

I didn't get a good look at the signs. But I think its Oct 19~25.

Waiting until the following week when the schools are off would be far too sensible :rolleyes:

daymobrew

BostonB wrote: »

They are closing Luttrellstown/Carpenterstown road in front of castleknock college for a week. Theres signs up for it on the road.. I assume they are resurfacing it. Nothing on Fingals Website.

You should email the Roads Department with questions on the work, including the timing i.e. why not a week later.

The recent resurfacing of other parts of this road, and of Roselawn Road, was done at night. Maybe this work will be done by night too.

As a cyclist, resurfacing of this road is very welcome. The road was opened a few years ago, to bring water mains to the apartments on Whites Road. They did a terrible job recovering the opening and this, unsurprisingly, lead to the crap state we see now. IMO this was a failing of FCC, failing to insist that the road be returned to a good state after the water main work was done.

BostonB

Agreed it's the worst part of my commute. The Tarmac is very coarse on one side vibration on the bike is brutal. The other side is just falling apart. It needs to be wider too.

daymobrew

MIP wrote: »

While Castleknock Gate is closed? You really have to admire the joined up thinking and forward planning in operation in Dublin West traffic planning. :mad:

Heroditas wrote: »

Waiting until the following week when the schools are off would be far too sensible :rolleyes:

No need to panic - it is to be closed at night, 8pm to 6am according to Boston B.