Phoenix Park Castleknock Gate to close

holly_johnson

Was driving into work this morning and I saw a sign saying that the Castleknock Gate into the park will be closed from Sept 28th to Nov 30th for roadworks!
This is going to cause a lot of problems I think.
Could they not have done this during the summer??

joolsveer

Would it not be more disruptive in the Summer rather than the Winter? I am sure that fewer people use the park for recreation in the Winter.

holly_johnson

joolsveer wrote: »

Would it not be more disruptive in the Summer rather than the Winter? I am sure that fewer people use the park for recreation in the Winter.

Perhaps, but I was speaking from a commuter point of view. The traffic is mental enough in the park and Castleknock without this.

trad

I blame celticbest. He started it.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055679018

Jip

Is it for that long ? I spotted when it's closed from on the sign but never caught exactly until when, I thought it was only until Sept 30th ?

Godge

Jip wrote: »

Is it for that long ? I spotted when it's closed from on the sign but never caught exactly until when, I thought it was only until Sept 30th ?

it is from Sep 28 to nov 30. Saw it on all three signs, one of the advantages of travelling by moped is you are slow enough to read all the signs.

Godge

Can't find any information about the closure on either the opw website or the phoenix park website

BostonB

I've seen it on the signs in the Park. Seems like a long time for a simple project. Why they couldn't have done it before schools went back and the daylight was longer. Muppets.

Why do they need to do it at all?

Jip

I went through the Castleknock Gate yesterday evening and the electronic sign has now gone. So are we all under some mass hallucination or have they cancelled/postponed the works ?

Having said that I did see lads from a construction company on the road, probably an advanced survey or something.

munsterbear

I rang OPW and couldn't get an answer. What works will be carried out?

BostonB

The electronic signs are still all over. I wonder what muppet decided to do this now the schools ate back and traffic is increasing. So stupid. I don't see why the pedistrian gate would be closed.

Waste of money this.

daymobrew

I rang the Phoenix Park office (the number mentioned on White's Gate wrt repainting all gates).

The gates will be closed for 5-9 weeks (the latter figure is to allow for unforeseen issues). The temporary roundabout at Mountjoy Cross is being replaced with a permanent one.
There are also considerable drainage issues at the junction and these will be addressed at the same time.

The funding for the project only came available recently, hence the seemingly

Information will be posted to the Phoenix Park web site today. I suggested that this update contain as much info as possible so that the office won't be inundated with calls (most callers are very irate apparently).

They will email me some info later (probably a duplicate of the info due on the site) and I will post it here.

Maybe Dublin Bus and Irish Rail should be out promoting their services in the run up to the closure.

I did ask if the new permanent roundabout would impact the motor races. Apparently I'll have to talk to the foreman to get an answer to that.

daymobrew

Web site updated now.

Castleknock Gate Closure
Mountjoy Junction, Phoenix Park, Dublin 8.

For safety reasons the temporary roundabout at Mountjoy junction will be replaced with a permanent roundabout facilitating vehicles, cyclists and pedestrians.

In order to facilitate this essential work, Castleknock Gate will be closed to vehicular traffic from Mon, 28th September for a maximum of nine weeks and will re-open on 30th November 2009. Cyclists and pedestrians can use the Castleknock pedestrian gates as normal.

The following traffic arrangements have been agreed with the Gardaí and will be put in place for the duration of this project.

Roads
Furze Road - open to vehicles both ways linking Chesterfield Avenue to the Ordnance Survey Road/Knockmaroon Gate. Access to Ordnance Survey and Farmleigh from the Furze Road.

Odd Lamp Road - open to vehicular traffic both ways linking Chesterfield Avenue to the Back Road.

Both these roads will be open for the duration of the works 24 hours a day.

Gates
Cabra Gate - open 24 hours - Exit only from Phoenix Park
Ashtown Gate - open 24 hours - Entry only to Phoenix Park

Directional signage will be in place for the duration of these works.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Map: Map indicating changes.

daymobrew

The map image has been changed to a PDF showing the closures.

BostonB

Man its going to be a nightmare. What a diasaster.

munsterbear

At least the two gates are being made one way. The ashtown gates are much too dangerous as it is with traffic from all directions trying to get through there.

triple-M

im not 100% familiar with this area but does the closure mean more traffic will be using the gridlocked N3/blanchardstown roundabout ?

munsterbear

Traffic from Carpenterstown may head through Chapelizard but that's already bad. Rest that comes through Castleknock village will head down Blackhorse Ave or Navan Rd. I for one will be cycling more. At the moment try to cycle 3/4 times a week. But no way I'm sitting in that traffic. Quick note to drivers, try remember the cyclists and leave a bit of room between path and your car.

BostonB

munsterbear wrote: »

Traffic from Carpenterstown may head through Chapelizard but that's already bad. Rest that comes through Castleknock village will head down Blackhorse Ave or Navan Rd. I for one will be cycling more. At the moment try to cycle 3/4 times a week. But no way I'm sitting in that traffic. Quick note to drivers, try remember the cyclists and leave a bit of room between path and your car.

Same here. my 2/3 times a week will now be 5 times.

What they need at ashtown is a roundabout. Even with it going to oneway.

munsterbear

Good idea, and the room is there for it.

ROK ON

At least they have changed Cabra and Ashtown gates to entry only/exit only. About time too. Where they have done this previously (Islandbridge/Chapelizod), I feel that it has made a difference to traffic conjestion in the area.

daymobrew

munsterbear wrote: »

Traffic from Carpenterstown may head through Chapelizard but that's already bad. Rest that comes through Castleknock village will head down Blackhorse Ave or Navan Rd.

Traffic through Castleknock village can enter at Ashtown Gate and make their way onto the main road via North Road/Odd Lamp Road.

munsterbear wrote:

I for one will be cycling more. At the moment try to cycle 3/4 times a week. But no way I'm sitting in that traffic.

I hope that the closure will get more people to try cycling, though at 3/4 times a week, you are probably already a 'convert'.

munsterbear

A convert indeed. And sure great for keeping fit. After damage to knees I can't jog as much so the cycling is great.
I wonder if the plans for bus lanes on Castleknock road are going ahead. It could be a few months of discontent for drivers through Castleknock.

MIP

munsterbear wrote: »

At least the two gates are being made one way. The ashtown gates are much too dangerous as it is with traffic from all directions trying to get through there.

It's going to be a disaster at Ashtown gate as all the traffic that normally enters through the regulated traffic lights at Castleknock gate will be diverted that way, and as people wait to turn right (either in through Ashtown Gate or down Blackhorse Avenue) it will back up to Castleknock village. Unless there's a Garda placed at that junction I can see complete and utter carnage/gridlock.

Fcuking joke of a country where significant decisions such as this are made at the last minute as "funding becomes available".

BostonB

+1 ashtown

manutd

JUST TO SAY THIS IS TOMORROW Just a warning for the people who forgot or didn'y heard about it.

http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/news/story.asp?ID=1491

BostonB

Not a day to drive if you've any other way of getting to work.

crótach

Drove in this morning, flashing signs everywhere saying castleknock gate closed. Got to the gate thinking I'll be diverted to Ashtown gate, but no.. gate's open, cars are driving in...

So I followed everyone else... No closure, everything's as normal.. except for the flashing signs.. go figure?!

MIP

crótach wrote: »

Drove in this morning, flashing signs everywhere saying castleknock gate closed. Got to the gate thinking I'll be diverted to Ashtown gate, but no.. gate's open, cars are driving in...

So I followed everyone else... No closure, everything's as normal.. except for the flashing signs.. go figure?!

Not happening 'til 11am. This evening and tomorrow morning are going to be fun, not! :eek::eek::eek:

Jip

crótach wrote: »

go figure?!

As said above, it's from 11am.

However, the Navan Road inbound was backed up from the Halfway House roundabout as far as the Auburn Avenue Roundabout. I don't think I've ever seen traffic backed up that bad before. I'm guessing that this is alot of people who didn't realise the closure was from 11am looking for alternative routes all taking the Navan Road.

MIP

Jip wrote: »

As said above, it's from 11am.

However, the Navan Road inbound was backed up from the Halfway House roundabout as far as the Auburn Avenue Roundabout. I don't think I've ever seen traffic backed up that bad before. I'm guessing that this is alot of people who didn't realise the closure was from 11am looking for alternative routes all taking the Navan Road.

Who would have guessed?
Just wait 'til tomorrow morning! :eek: