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Bus / Luas crash

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    #32
    Mimikyu
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    #33
    KC61
    Registered Users Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruptions/

    Service Disruptions
    Thursday 17th September - updated 06:30

    Dublin Bus wishes to advise customers that due to an incident on O’Connell Street cross city bus services will be disrupted until further notice.

    Northbound buses are currently bypassing O’Connell Street, their neartest stops after crossing O'Connell Bridge are Parnell Street and Parnell Square then back to normal routing.

    Airlinks are departing from Busaras direct to the airport.

    Southbound buses are following their normal routing.

    http://www.luas.ie/page.php?name=Luas_Red_Line_Service_Change_Thursday_September_17_2009



    Luas Red Line : Thursday September 17 2009

    The Luas Red Line is operating this morning Thursday September 17 2009 between Tallaght and Smithfield Stops only.

    All Luas tickets are valid on Dublin Bus.

    We apologise to Luas passengers for any inconvenience.

    Should you wish to speak with a member of Luas Customer Care please Freephone 1800 300 604.

    Thank you,

    Luas Customer Care.


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    #34
    KC61
    Registered Users Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    Thursday 17th September - updated 07:40

    Dublin Bus wishes to advise customers that O’Connell Street has been reopened and bus services are running as normal


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    #35
    bob bobbing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭bob bobbing


    Is there anyone on boards.ie who was on either vehicle and if so what was it like were you hurt and WHO was to blamr


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    #36
    Greenman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭Greenman


    Riskymove wrote: »
    why ever not?

    +1


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    #37
    egan007
    Registered Users Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    It's like 9/11 all over again


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    #38
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Why?:confused:


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    #39
    parsi
    Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    A right balls up alright. Whatever the reason, don't expect anyone to be held accountable.

    What a crass comment.


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    #40
    rednik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭rednik


    As you would expect the thread in AH has a lot worse comments and dumb speculation. As a driver of the luas I just hope my colleague is ok.


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    #41
    I.S.T.
    Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭I.S.T.


    rednik wrote: »
    As you would expect the thread in AH has a lot worse comments and dumb speculation. As a driver of the luas I just hope my colleague is ok.

    Yes, I hope he makes a speedy recovery.

    Quick question, are there seat belts for the driver and if so, are you required to wear them?


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    #42
    rednik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭rednik


    There are no seat belts and there are no front facing cameras on these trams.


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    #43
    dereko1969
    Closed Accounts Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dereko1969


    parsi wrote: »
    What a crass comment.

    well said parsi, it's all about dwcommuter and his various axes to grind!


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    #44
    r3nu4l
    Registered Users Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    rednik wrote: »
    There are no seat belts and there are no front facing cameras on these trams.

    Wut? Wow! :eek: So I imagine the unions will now be demanding seat belts...although I'm puzzled as to why they didn't previously?


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    #45
    angel01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭angel01


    rednik wrote: »
    As you would expect the thread in AH has a lot worse comments and dumb speculation. As a driver of the luas I just hope my colleague is ok.

    That is exactly what puts me off this site.


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    #46
    The Skulls
    Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭The Skulls


    Has just been on the 2fm news at midday, CIE chairman was interviewed; the CCTV footage on the bus shows the bus had a FULL GREEN LIGHT to proceed, so Veolia have some questions to answer. Maybe next time people should wait for the facts to emerge before making accusations. And for the record i was on the Luas in question yesterday but got off at Jervis street. I'm just glad no one has died & wish a speedy recovery to all who are injured.


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    #47
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    The Skulls wrote: »
    the CCTV footage on the bus shows the bus had a FULL GREEN LIGHT to proceed, so Veolia have some questions to answer. And for the record i was on the Luas in question yesterday but got off at Jervis street. I'm just glad no one has died & wish a speedy recovery to all who are injured.

    Ah ha, I was just about to ask this question myself!

    So if the Bus had a full Green light, then the Tram must have broken his Red light? or ........................


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    #48
    Our man in Havana
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    Trams don't have red lights to obey. They have a white stop signal.
    Signal-Halt.png


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    #49
    The Skulls
    Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭The Skulls


    Trams don't have red lights to obey. They have a white stop signal.
    Signal-Halt.png

    That is correct; now we just have to wait & see what veolia & the gardai have to say, apparently the garda investigation is concluded already which could indicate that its very much cut & dried as to who did what.


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    #50
    shltter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭shltter


    The Skulls wrote: »
    Has just been on the 2fm news at midday, CIE chairman was interviewed; the CCTV footage on the bus shows the bus had a FULL GREEN LIGHT to proceed, so Veolia have some questions to answer. Maybe next time people should wait for the facts to emerge before making accusations. And for the record i was on the Luas in question yesterday but got off at Jervis street. I'm just glad no one has died & wish a speedy recovery to all who are injured.

    So all the Twitter witnesses appear to have been full of ****. I hope they are as quick to post an apology to the bus driver as they were to blame him.

    That was the story I heard yesterday and thank god for forward facing cameras it's a pity the Luas doesn't have them because perhaps it was a signalling error but with no camera hard to prove much easier to just blame the driver.


    Hope everyone makes a full recovery.


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    #51
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    shltter wrote: »
    So all the Twitter witnesses appear to have been full of ****. I hope they are as quick to post an apology to the bus driver as they were to blame him.

    Plenty were saying yesterday that the bus had a green light.


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    #52
    rameire
    Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭rameire


    does the luas not have a Black Box,
    thus all details of signals and speed will be recorded

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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    #53
    BrianD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    The Skulls wrote: »
    Has just been on the 2fm news at midday, CIE chairman was interviewed; the CCTV footage on the bus shows the bus had a FULL GREEN LIGHT to proceed, so Veolia have some questions to answer. Maybe next time people should wait for the facts to emerge before making accusations. And for the record i was on the Luas in question yesterday but got off at Jervis street. I'm just glad no one has died & wish a speedy recovery to all who are injured.

    I don't think Veolia said anything and the general public are entitled to say what they saw (or thought they saw) through any means they choose.

    Dublin Bus have themselves pre-empted the investigation so they must be pretty sure of the ground they stand on.


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    #54
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    rameire wrote: »
    does the luas not have a Black Box,
    thus all details of signals and speed will be recorded
    No such thing sadly. Trams don't have CAWS or ATP.


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    #55
    bg07
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    I would imagine that there would a garda CCTV camera or one in easons or supermacs etc that would have captured the Luas signal


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    #56
    lostexpectation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    its seems like its cie vs veolia today rather then luas vs bus


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    #57
    micawber
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭micawber


    Possible that bus began entering junction on green, halted because of either pedestrians or due to garda car coming through on emergency call, and then restarted to clear junction at which stage lights had changed and Luas was coming through?


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    #58
    bazzer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭bazzer


    BrianD wrote: »
    Dublin Bus have themselves pre-empted the investigation so they must be pretty sure of the ground they stand on.

    There are/were separate investigations from Dublin Bus, Veolia and the Gardai, so I can't see how Dublin Bus have pre-empted anything. They have simply released their own findings.


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    #59
    a_ominous
    Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭a_ominous


    A green light does not give someone right of way or actually mean 'go'.
    The driver has to always exercise caution and proceed only if the way is clear. This is to cater for situations where you have signal failures or unusual circumstances.
    Rules of the road

    I don't know what rules apply in case of Luas but I'd expect that they'd have to obey ROTR as road users.


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    #60
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    micawber wrote: »
    Possible that bus began entering junction on green, halted because of either pedestrians or due to garda car coming through on emergency call, and then restarted to clear junction at which stage lights had changed and Luas was coming through?

    But the LUAS just doesn't automatically stop and go of it's own will. The driver has to start and stop it... So if the LUAS did see a bus stopped in the middle of the junction why didn't he break?


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    #61
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    lostexpectation wrote: »
    its seems like its cie vs veolia today rather then luas vs bus

    Or even Tram V Bus > its interesting to see how the word 'Tram' is slowly being dropped (in Ireland).

    Just a thought.


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