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Leaving Cert Chemistry
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11-09-2009 8:45pm#1
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Unless they changed the course from 09 LC then the experiments count for no percentage of your final grade.
I didn't even have a lab copy.
Not all medical schools require chemistry and yes it is very doable to get an honour in one year - I assume that if you're going for medicine it should be well within your capacity anyway.
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Homicidal_jesus wrote: »no you dont have to do them even though its says there mandatory i have friends who did there leaving in a private school and they just go over the theory of them they never actually do them!
I'm assuming you mean grind school, there's a distinction
They are mandatory, if you get inspected and you dont not have write ups done (And presumably a teacher to say you have actually done the experiments) you will not be allowed to sit the exam0 -
So it's not mandatory for those in grind schools?I'm assuming you mean grind school, there's a distinction
They are mandatory, if you get inspected and you dont not have write ups done (And presumably a teacher to say you have actually done the experiments) you will not be allowed to sit the exam0 -
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I'm assuming you mean grind school, there's a distinction
They are mandatory, if you get inspected and you dont not have write ups done (And presumably a teacher to say you have actually done the experiments) you will not be allowed to sit the exam
no i mean private not grind i do no theres a difference:D
ya thats true but the school is told in advance when there are inspectors coming so you could just do them before they arrive0 -
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Like an idiot I didn't pick chemistry, want to do medicine, it is now the start of fifth year and I need to take it up.
I'm planning on getting a private teacher for an hour a week.
I already do 7 other HL subjects and need to get a C3 or higher.
Is this in any way doable?
Are you in 5th year doing the LC in 2010 or 2011? If it's 2010 you will find it tough, the course is long and you may need more than one hour a week. I would say at least two. Actually I would recommend 2 hours a week for the two years. That's what I normally do when teaching students chemistry outside school.You do know that you have to do all the experiments aswell which are percentage of your grade! And chemistry is very difficult...im not sure one hour a week will do you and then how are you going to do your experiments?
Not true. Where did you get that idea from?The experiments in Chemistry are not a percentage that get before the exam, there are however 3 questions on the paper guaranteed based one experiments and the associated calculations. (The institute are offering a course now where you can do the experiments now afaik)
I would strongly advise you to reconsider doing Chemistry outside of school without the facility of a lab, Chemistry experiments are much harder to bluff through, the colour changes etc are much easier to remember if you've seen it in real life.
+1 on everything here. You must answer questions on at least 2 of the mandatory experiments (25%) in total and you have the choice of answering the third question, which brings total up to 37.5%. Experiments can also come up on second part of paper. In theory if you knew your experiments inside out you could pass LC Chemistry. It does help to actually do them though. You're far more likely to remember them if you've done them, and especially if you made a mess of it on the day!I never really saw the benefit of doing the experiments. You can learn more from a revision book IMO
No way, learning off the method for an experiment from a book is no way a substitute for actually doing the experiment.It's not like they check. Suppose everyone learns differently!
They do check.They do check though, just there's so many schools in this country, if I was minister for education it'd be something on my list, experiments are important in Science (imo anyway).
I know for the JC Science practicals, lab copies have to be kept in the school. Dept sends someone out to a random selection of schools and checks that the copies exist and experiments have been done. There's 10% going for the practicals in JC Science. They can do the same for Biology and Chemistry. In practice very few schools probably get inspected. Personally I think that all copies should be inspected as students and teachers know the chances of copies being checked are very slim, if copies had to be submitted with the exam paper on the day of the Chem/Bio exams much like the History special topics, JC Science practicals booklet, CSPE project, just to prove the experiments were done, it would stop people skipping the practicals.Homicidal_jesus wrote: »like others have said there not worth any percentage in your expieriment copy theres just 3 experiment related questions on the paper and you MUST do 2 of them
no you dont have to do them even though its says there mandatory i have friends who did there leaving in a private school and they just go over the theory of them they never actually do them!
and yes i would say its quite do-able..theres a fair bit there..but there are topics that come up every year ie.thermochemistry which you can learn and have basically a guaranteed question
Well they are supposed to do them, as I've said above. Personally I would think any chemistry teacher worth their salt would do practical classes to benefit their students.I'm assuming you mean grind school, there's a distinction
They are mandatory, if you get inspected and you dont not have write ups done (And presumably a teacher to say you have actually done the experiments) you will not be allowed to sit the exam
yes, in theory this is correct, although I've never heard of it happen. I hate the way the Dept come up with ideas and then there's no follow through. As I said above, copies should be submitted with exam, even if there's no marks going for it, just to prove they were completed. No copy, no marks.An inordinate amount of people dont know....
I kinda doubt your story though, I really doubt that the department would pay for a teacher to teach a subject in a school so ill equipped. If Spurious pops along, she will probably clear this up.
There possibly are old labs not very well equipped. At the same time, 35% of the marks in JC Science are mandatory so I would imagine that labs in all schools are functional to some extent and therefore it should be possible to conduct chemistry experiments.
And back to the OP.. if you're going to do chemistry outside school with a teacher and just do the theory part, I'd probably advise that you sign up for the practical chemistry course in Maynooth in January. It's a one day course and get's booked out very fast, they do all the main/most important experiments on the LC Chemistry course, some you get to do and some are demonstrated. They provide you with a booklet of notes as well with it and you would get what I think is important practical experience.0 -
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