Official Poll: Have debates on boards.ie influenced how you will vote on Lisbon II?

nesf · 06-09-2009 11:41pm #1

Have fun voting.

Edit: Anyone found to be messing with the results of this poll (i.e. Yes or No campaigners falsely voting as "Was Yes/No now No/Yes") will be treated harshly. Either vote honestly or save us the trouble of having to ban you.

sink · 06-09-2009 11:46pm

What about was no, now yes and was yes now no?

nesf · 06-09-2009 11:49pm

sink wrote: »

What about was no, now yes and was yes now no?

Bah, I knew I forgot some. Added.

K-9 · 06-09-2009 11:52pm

This could do well if it's an announcement, not just a EU Forum thread.

K-9 · 06-09-2009 11:54pm

An interesting addition would be:

Was Yes leaning, but it made me Yes definitely

and

Was No leaning and made me No definitely.

nesf · 07-09-2009 12:01am

K-9 wrote: »

An interesting addition would be:

Was Yes leaning, but it made me Yes definitely

and

Was No leaning and made me No definitely.

Right, done. That's as many options I can add (the max is 10).

I'm looking into having the admins do a custom poll for the forum, but don't know if that will be possible yet.

Stark · 07-09-2009 12:01am

K-9 wrote:

An interesting addition would be:

Was Yes leaning, but it made me Yes definitely

and

Was No leaning and made me No definitely.

That's probably covered by "undecided" I reckon. If we keep adding options for every obscure possibility then we'll end up having an option for "Was no, shagged the missus, was a bit happier so was yes, then a froggy bumped into me on the street, was no again, then got a two euro quarter pounder on the eurosaver menu at macdonalds, so voting yes"

K-9 · 07-09-2009 12:10am

Stark wrote: »

That's probably covered by "undecided" I reckon. If we keep adding options for every obscure possibility then we'll end up having an option for "Was no, shagged the missus, was a bit happier so was yes, then a froggy bumped into me on the street, was no again, then got a two euro quarter pounder on the eurosaver menu at macdonalds, so voting yes"

Was that a Yes point or No point?

That could persuade me.

Think this should be moderated heavily, no Debate, just a vote.

The reason I mentioned those two, was, it it does come up on the forum.

marco_polo · 07-09-2009 12:10am

Stark wrote: »

That's probably covered by "undecided" I reckon. If we keep adding options for every obscure possibility then we'll end up having an option for "Was no, shagged the missus, was a bit happier so was yes, then a froggy bumped into me on the street, was no again, then got a two euro quarter pounder on the eurosaver menu at macdonalds, so voting yes"

I'm biting my tongue about the absence of 'Was Atari Jauguar now Yes'

nesf · 07-09-2009 12:13am

K-9 wrote: »

Think this should be moderated heavily, no Debate, just a vote.

People are free to talk about the poll. Anyone starting to campaign in this thread or discussion campaign issues etc will have their posts deleted.

The Big Red Button · 07-09-2009 12:14am

I was leaning no, now definitely yes.

Not entirely due to Boards though. Just went to the effort to take maybe 3-4 hours to educate myself on a referendum which may affect my future. It's doable!

procure11 · 07-09-2009 10:40am

This Post has a striking resemblance to Lisbon II.Not satisfied with outcome of the first poll so we vote again.I was no and I am still no.

In the event that the no side have the majority in Lisbon II and we are made to vote again,I would then have no choice to vote yes to save myself and other tax payers some of our money.

Martin 2 · 07-09-2009 10:57am

procure11 wrote: »

This Post has a striking resemblance to Lisbon 11.Not satisfied with outcome of the first poll so we vote again.I was no and I am still no.

In the event that the no side have the majority in Lisbon 11 and we are made to vote again,I would then have no choice to vote yes to save myself and other tax payers some of our money.

I think you mean Lisbon II or is Lisbon 11 just a Freudian slip:)

passive · 07-09-2009 4:56pm

It's kinda hilarious how many of the votes are missing from the "Was No, am still No" pile which are lumped suspiciously in the "Was Yes, am now No" pile... Something that anybody who can and has read any of the discussions on the European Union forum, and the relative standards of debate, knows cannot possibly be a true proportion.

Yes & Yes from me, but a more educated, and exhausted, and depressed yes...

Lockstep · 07-09-2009 5:05pm

I'm the only person who "Was no, now yes"

Scofflaw · 07-09-2009 5:09pm

kickoutthejams wrote: »

I'm the only person who "Was no, now yes"

Ah, we just haven't seen turgon or democrates in a while, more's the pity. They declared for Yes rather a while ago - although of course they may have relented.

cordially,
Scofflaw

nesf · 07-09-2009 5:12pm

procure11 wrote: »

This Post has a striking resemblance to Lisbon II.Not satisfied with outcome of the first poll so we vote again.I was no and I am still no.

In the event that the no side have the majority in Lisbon II and we are made to vote again,I would then have no choice to vote yes to save myself and other tax payers some of our money.

Not at all. I fully expect to see a No win on this poll, given that the No side outnumber the Yes side by a fair margin on this forum going by posters.

Lockstep · 07-09-2009 5:16pm

nesf wrote: »

Not at all. I fully expect to see a No win on this poll, given that the No side outnumber the Yes side by a fair margin on this forum going by posters.

To be fair, I noticed a hell of a lot more Yes voters the first time around and the No side still won.

It really seems to be getting close.

passive · 07-09-2009 5:17pm

nesf wrote: »

Not at all. I fully expect to see a No win on this poll, given that the No side outnumber the Yes side by a fair margin on this forum going by posters.

How does that balance out if you disclude anyone who joined in september 2009 and has never posted outside this forum?

nesf · 07-09-2009 6:13pm

passive wrote: »

How does that balance out if you disclude anyone who joined in september 2009 and has never posted outside this forum?

It would be interesting, no doubt.

kn · 07-09-2009 6:26pm

nesf wrote: »

Edit: Anyone found to be messing with the results of this poll (i.e. Yes or No campaigners falsely voting as "Was Yes/No now No/Yes") will be treated harshly. Either vote honestly or save us the trouble of having to ban you.

How the hell would you know how any poster actually voted in Lisbon 1, or if they even voted? What about people responding to the poll whom are not Irish citizens and are not entitled to vote, or Irish citizens living abroad and therefore are unable to vote?

That posting is a bit childish and taking an internet poll a bit too seriously. Plus there are so many options I wonder whats its reall value is?

nesf · 07-09-2009 6:28pm

kn wrote: »

How the hell would you know how any poster actually voted in Lisbon 1, or if they even voted?

It's aimed at people who've been campaigning on boards.ie for a Yes or No since before Lisbon I. Obviously it can't apply to new posters.

hatrickpatrick · 07-09-2009 8:40pm

I voted Yes last time, was undecided for a long time about Lisbon II and having been on this board for a few months debating it I am not firmly in the No camp. That may change again before referendum day, but the more I read from Yes campaigners the more certain I become that Lisbon runs contrary to my views on both democracy and republicanism.

PopeBuckfastXVI · 08-09-2009 9:18am

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ibut the more I read from Yes campaigners the more certain I become that Lisbon runs contrary to my views on both democracy and republicanism.

Are you sure it's not that certain 'Yes' campaigners run contrary to your views on both democracy and republicanism, and that Lisbon maybe doesn't?

Mr. Presentable · 08-09-2009 4:00pm

What about, no, the debates have not influenced me, and it is none of your business how I intend to vote? That's the only option I'd take.

Or, yes, the debates have influenced me, and it is none of your business how I intend to vote?

marco_polo · 08-09-2009 4:04pm

nipplenuts wrote: »

What about, no, the debates have not influenced me, and it is none of your business how I intend to vote? That's the only option I'd take.

Or, yes, the debates have influenced me, and it is none of your business how I intend to vote?

It is a private poll? And you have come to the EU forum in order to not discuss how you are going to vote?

jhegarty · 08-09-2009 4:27pm

Interested to see :

Was Yes, am now No 13 14.94%
Was No, am now Yes 3 3.45%

I would have thought the debate was very leaning to yes since the date was confirmed.

On the other hand the polls on boards seem to lean to no (A&A excepted). So maybe the 'yes' side like debate , the 'no' side polls.

Stark · 08-09-2009 4:29pm

The politics.ie guys have a campaign to skew the results of the poll.

ShooterSF · 08-09-2009 5:23pm

Was no, still no. Don't see it changing but I'm glad to see some people are being swayed by the discussion on the boards. Go boards!

jhegarty · 08-09-2009 5:50pm

Stark wrote: »

The politics.ie guys have a campaign to skew the results of the poll.

In which direction ?

meglome · 08-09-2009 6:03pm

jhegarty wrote: »

In which direction ?

Oh very much for a No. I'd say there's about 5-10 people that are pretending to be about 30.

Official Poll: Have debates on boards.ie influenced how you will vote on Lisbon II?

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