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NCAA Division I Season Thread "Fight On!"

  • 16-08-2009 4:00am
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Carroll picked sophomore (2nd year) Aaron Corp to be starting QB last April, but it was reported that frosh (1st year) Matt Barkley was a very close contender for the selection to lead the USC Trojan offense during the 2009 season. Now it's reported that Corp has been injured during practice and is out for at least 2 weeks with a cracked fibula and bruised knee, while Barkley steps in (temporarily?) during practice as QB.

    The sports casters are a-buzz about the chance that Coach Carroll will change his mind and replace Corp with Barkley, but Carroll has not commented on this prospect. If you were Head Coach Carroll, what would you do about this QB starting position only three or four weeks away from San Jose State and Ohio State gridiron contests?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I would personally interview and make the final decision on all cheerleaders.:D

    You needn't worry about it, Carroll will make the right decision. Its hard to call when we don't really know anything about either guy really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    I think Barkley will do the job. I personally think he is better than corp to be honest. Even if Barkley is still a freshman I feel he will do the job nicely. If you watched Barkley at all at Mater Dei HS you can see he has potential and in that UA combine and UA All star high school game. With USC Oline and offense he wont go wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Karlusss


    What's the risk? Go with the freshman and let him lose the job. If he loses it, you have the guy you anointed, and you had the injury as an excuse for not playing him in the first place. If he wins it, happy days, you have your quarterback for the next few years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭Sea Devils


    I've only seen clips of his high school highlights on Youtube but to me Barkley looks pretty decent. Has a pretty quick release, he actually steps into his throws and doesn't just rely on his arm.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    It would appear from these posts that Barkley wins the starting QB position if we were to vote today. Blue was thinking Barkley too (cause he's more handsome... errrrr... I mean he has a better arm... ahhhh... well, you get the picture). We are split here at Troy between the two. Our last QB Sanchez was injured about the same time during summer and went on to do pretty grand. Then again, that injury reduced his scrambling and rushing performance somewhat (maybe just enough to cost us the championship)?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I would personally interview and make the final decision on all cheerleaders.
    For your eagle eye:
    Trojan%20Cheerleaders.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    It would appear from these posts that Barkley wins the starting QB position if we were to vote today. Blue was thinking Barkley too (cause he's more handsome... errrrr... I mean he has a better arm... ahhhh... well, you get the picture). We are split here at Troy between the two. Our last QB Sanchez was injured about the same time during summer and went on to do pretty grand. Then again, that injury reduced his scrambling and rushing performance somewhat (maybe just enough to cost us the championship)?

    The only thing Corp has over Barkley right now is two years worth of practice and a couple of snaps as a Trojan. Not forgetting he was a redshirt freshman so he would have practiced with them even while shirted.

    What Barkley gives is he is fresh from HS and graduated early to attend Trojan Spring Practice back in April. He is also a pure pocket passer who is light on his feet and can move if needs be. He is confident and controls his pocket and isnt phased by the pass rushers. If he carries his HS abilities into USC he will be Heisman winner. Look at his vids and read things on him. I know coaches who have gone up against Mater Dei and they were astonished how goo this kid is.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    For your eagle eye:
    hot-USC-cheerleaders.jpg

    I fixed that for you! :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    I know coaches who have gone up against Mater Dei and they were astonished how goo this kid is.
    If Carroll picks Barkley of Mater Dei as starting QB to lead the Trojans into battle against the Fighting Irish, does that mean we Irish win no matter which team wins?

    Our first string offensive PLAY!
    008129101112009_ucla_at_usc.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    He can make a pass at me!:D See Barkley page: http://www.mattbarkley.org/

    **Just wanted to add a little balance to this USC cheerleader-fest thread eagle eye and tallaghtoutlaws**


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    I think the risk with starting Barkley is September 12 in Columbus Ohio. I like the look of him too but this is a big challenge for any young QB. They play San Jose State first (who they would probably beat without a QB!) and then off to the horseshoe. In any other year I would agree that he should get the job based on the talent he has shown. Even if they had WSU and Washington before OSU it would give him a chance to settle in, but having your first road game against a top 20 team in front of 100,000 plus? Thats tough. And considering how the Pac-10 is viewed as a weaker conference again this year one loss could do in their national title hopes.

    Therefore I can see, despite Barkley's gifts, why Carroll is reluctant to start him so soon. Corps injury might force him to throw him in and he might go out an light up the Buckeyes, but considering how USC's biggest game is in week 2 If all are healthy id go the more experienced route.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Hynzie wrote: »
    Therefore I can see, despite Barkley's gifts, why Carroll is reluctant to start him so soon. Corps injury might force him to throw him in and he might go out an light up the Buckeyes, but considering how USC's biggest game is in week 2 If all are healthy id go the more experienced route.
    That's one side of the debate we are having at Troy. Decisions, decisions! Well, only time (and Pete Carroll) will tell.

    Not sure how the coaches, Harris, or AP polls would change USC's rankings if Corps was officially dropped to 2nd string and Barkley moved to starter QB? Any ideas or guesses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Trojan%20Cheerleaders.jpg
    008129101112009_ucla_at_usc.jpg

    It gets mentioned numerous times every year in every football forum I post in, and everyone knows it to be true; but nonetheless I feel it bears repeating: USC cheerleaders are full of win.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    It gets mentioned numerous times every year in every football forum I post in, and everyone knows it to be true; but nonetheless I feel it bears repeating: USC cheerleaders are full of win.
    LuckyLloyd! The next thing you will be claiming is that the Trojans win because all the opposing team players are paying more attention to our cheerleaders than the game!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Barkley got the nod.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Oh didn't realise this thread was about cheerleaders, would of looked it more often.

    IMG_4179.jpg

    IMG_8269.jpg

    fapawayyoulonelybastard.jpg

    IMG_1309.jpg


    I think I'm in love!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    IMG_8269.jpg

    I know a male cheerleader in a D1 college and this picture is the reason why. :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Oh didn't realise this thread was about cheerleaders, would of looked it more often.
    tallaghtoutlaws! LuckyLloyd! You're leading Chucky the tree astray on this thread! And eagle eye, you started it! Where's the ref? Oh, you lads probably want an instant cheerleader replay if one of those striped shirts blows his whistle and calls a penalty? Typical lads!!!!;)

    Well, I believe in equal opportunity, and this pic looks pretty grand to me of Matt Barkley in practice. Now our starter QB.
    BARKLEY.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭Trampas


    so who is everyone's pick for the BCS this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 intercepter


    I love USC. Got them at 10/1 thanks to a friend of mine tip off. They are now a best price 8's. A lot with depend on their Freshman QB Matt Barkley but coach Carroll appears to have chosen wisely. Week 2 versus the Buckeyes will reveal a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Meh, USC's problem will be maintaining focus through their conference schedule - something that has been beyond them the past couple of years.

    Being honest, it really is too early to make predictions. Pre - season assessments are frequently way out of line with actual squad strength in NCAAF, and consequently it will be very difficult to get a good handle on who has the toughest schedules until we've had three or four rounds of games.

    The only thing I'd be certain of is that there will be controversy on BCS selection Sunday. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    The only thing I'd be certain of is that there will be controversy on BCS selection Sunday. :rolleyes:
    Indeed! But that's been the history of the BCS. The coach's and AP agree for the first 5:

    Coach's Poll
    Rk Team Points
    1 Florida (53) 1466
    2 Texas (4) 1386
    3 Oklahoma (1) 1358
    4 USC (1) 1321 :cool:
    5 Alabama 1134

    AP Poll
    Rk Team Points
    1 Florida (58) 1498
    2 Texas (2) 1424
    3 Oklahoma 1370
    4 USC 1313 :cool:
    5 Alabama 1156

    The Infamous Bad B!ue Poll
    1 Florida
    2 USC:cool:
    3 Oklahoma
    4 Texas
    5 Alabama

    EDIT: If/then statements...

    If the Trojans defeat the Buckeyes on 12 September, then they will lose one game during this season to the easiest team to beat on their schedule.

    If the Trojans lose to the Buckeyes, then they will not be a contender for the championship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    Let the craziness begin! the Sooners lose 14 - 13 to BYU. Sam Bradford injured his shoulder and will miss 2 to 4 weeks. Iowa needed two blocked field goals in a row to beat Northern Iowa and Ohio State nearly went down to Navy!

    Alabama v Virginia Tech was a great game aswell. Hard to beat a big time college football game for pure entertainment and drama!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fight On Trojans!

    Was hiding under the table at Legends of Long Beach (Trojan bar owned by a former USC player) during the first quarter of this season's first game against San Jose State, with our offense stumbling all over the field, executing poorly, and fumbling twice. Thank the gods the Trojan defense executed expertly from the first minute of play, giving up only 3 points. Unlike the offense, the defense was quick and expert, forcing 2 fumbles, and looking even better than last year.

    A complete and total transformation for our offense occurred with the 2nd quarter, when they seized the momentum and the game, scoring 4TDs as if child's play. True frosh teenager QB Matt Barkley got over his college ball nOObness and began to play like the national champ he was when in high school the year before. Although he did a lot of handoffs, he completed 15 of 19. LOOK out! This lad knows how to play-action-pass!

    With a huge lead going into the 4th quarter, Head Coach Pete Carroll worked his 2nd string into play, including injured QB Corp, who performed as if he was fully healed after only 3 weeks of rehab (adding one TD to the scoreboard). It would appear that USC is very strong in the QB department, so don't count on us falling behind in this area due to possible season injuries. We have depth!

    Rushing and passing were textbook well-balanced for SC, with 233 yards passing and 343 yards rushing. Except for a couple fumbles, McKnight and Johnson moved the ball down the field and racked up 2TDs each.

    I know you lads will remind me that San Jose State was a piece of cake, and that next Saturday's away game against the Big 10 Buckeyes will provide a more realistic pic? But did you see what Navy almost did to Ohio State today (31-27 final), huh, huh? Will the Buckeyes drop in the polls?

    Final score Trojans 56, San Jose State 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Jimmy Clausen and ND had a good night. 15 of 18 for 315 yds and 4 TD, 0 int.

    Now them's good numbers. 35-0, too. Will ND be moving up in the polls? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Watched the Irish game and was very impressed although its too early to call just how much they have improved. I watched the Buckeyes game also and they look like they have troubles on defense, they were unable to stop the run consistently and they are going to fall bigtime in the rankings after that defeat.

    I also watched the Sooners and they have big problems on offense, even before Sam Bradford got injured they were not looking good on offense and ran the ball way too much which makes me believe that the coach has little confidence in his receivers.

    I'm very interested to see the rankings after this week. How far will Oklahoma fall? It could be mid teens imo. How high will BYU rise?
    Texas Tech off to a good start after starting unranked. The Irish should move up, and the Buckeyes could crash to the mid teens despite their win.
    The big movers in the top ten will be Oklahoma State and the Nittany Lions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Ohio State were made to look ordinary, but Navy will have a good season this year. SJSU and Nevada will not. ;)

    BYU are a good team. They have all the tough opponents remaining on their schedule at home (Fl St, Utah, TCU, Air Force). Long way to go, but if they are unbeaten on September 20 you can start thinking perfect season = national championship bid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Miami and Fl St tonight on 360. Been a terrible weekend for the ACC (Duke and Virginia beaten by Division 1 - A at home!! / Maryland destroyed by CAL), so it would be in everyone's interests for this to be a cracker.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'm very interested to see the rankings after this week.
    Me too! Buckeyes down, Oklahoma down, BYU up, Irish up, and Texas Tech into the top 25. Still think that Penn State will fall on its face this season, but I may be alone on that call. My USC Trojans will hold at #4 pending the upcoming Buckeye game in a week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I watched the Buckeyes game also and they look like they have troubles on defense, they were unable to stop the run consistently and they are going to fall bigtime in the rankings after that defeat.
    I don't think tOSU will fall as far as you think. They did win the game. Although they did nearly blow a 15 point lead in the waning minutes. The pollsters will probably take a wait and see attitude until after the USC game with some probably wondering if they were looking ahead. They will want to see if Ohio State can at least play close with the Trojans. Also, Navy fields winning teams year after year and often compete well with top teams so people may hold off on pulling the trigger on a free fall. Contrast that with #11 LSU's ugly win against Washington a team that didn't win a single game last year. Teams tend to get penalised more severely for ugly wins later in the season when they've got the landscape more sussed out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Lirange wrote: »
    I don't think tOSU will fall as far as you think. They did win the game. Although they did nearly blow a 15 point lead in the waning minutes. The pollsters will probably take a wait and see attitude until after the USC game with some probably wondering if they were looking ahead. They will want to see if Ohio State can at least play close with the Trojans. Also, Navy fields winning teams year after year and often compete well with top teams so people may hold off on pulling the trigger on a free fall. Contrast that with #11 LSU's ugly win against Washington a team that didn't win a single game last year. Teams tend to get penalised more severely for ugly wins later in the season when they've got the landscape more sussed out.
    My bad, it was nearly as bad as a defeat imo. Somebody said that Navy will be good this year but I don't think so. I think this showed a lot of weakness in the Buckeye's defense, specifically the DL which looked very weak. I think they will drop big time this weak, as in three to four spots, the Sooners should drop to the mid teens especially with an injury to Bradford which could cost them in their next two games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    I think Oklahoma could become a dangerous team in the Big 12 later in the year with a healthy Bradford and with a damper on expectations. All the pressure swings to Texas. They play two cupcakes in Idaho State and Tulsa next. Then Bradford should be back for the Miami game in a month. It will give their inexperienced but blue chip OL time to gel. They've got a good defence and too many weapons to languish in the Big 12.

    The Alabama - VT game was high quality stuff. Upchurch is a beast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    Lirange wrote: »
    I think Oklahoma could become a dangerous team in the Big 12 later in the year with a healthy Bradford and with a damper on expectations. All the pressure swings to Texas. They play two cupcakes in Idaho State and Tulsa next. Then Bradford should be back for the Miami game in a month. It will give their inexperienced but blue chip OL time to gel. They've got a good defence and too many weapons to languish in the Big 12.

    The Alabama - VT game was high quality stuff. Upchurch is a beast.

    Ya if they get Bradford back before Miami they are still alive but they now realistically have zero margin for error. If they lose in Dallas again (or anywhere else) its over for them. Unless we have one of those crazy years where everyone around the Sooners lose and the somehow back their way in with 2 loses like LSU did a couple of years back.

    That Canes, Noles game was crazy good! One of the best games ive seen in a long time! Both teams looked really sharp compared to some of the sloppy play at the weekend. Ponder played great for the Noles but Harris was unbeliveable for Miami! Very cool in a pressure cooker atmosphere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    Hynzie wrote: »
    Ya if they get Bradford back before Miami they are still alive but they now realistically have zero margin for error. If they lose in Dallas again (or anywhere else) its over for them. Unless we have one of those crazy years where everyone around the Sooners lose and the somehow back their way in with 2 loses like LSU did a couple of years back.
    I had Texas ahead of OU in the predictions thread. They had many more returning players than the Sooners this season. Honestly I didn't see Oklahoma winning a national title let alone the Big 12. My point about them is that they're still quality enough to be spoilers for others including Texas. Less pressure could make them more dangerous. I'm also anxious to see if the Big 12 North can improve and make things difficult for a few of the Big 12 South powers. Particularly Nebraska, Kansas, and Missouri. I think Tech will be down this year. They lost more than just the tandem of Harrell and Crabtree. But they always have their system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    Lirange wrote: »
    I had Texas ahead of OU in the predictions thread. They had many more returning players than the Sooners this season. Honestly I didn't see Oklahoma winning a national title let alone the Big 12. My point about them is that they're still quality enough to be spoilers for others including Texas. Less pressure could make them more dangerous. I'm also anxious to see if the Big 12 North can improve and make things difficult for a few of the Big 12 South powers. Particularly Nebraska, Kansas, and Missouri. I think Tech will be down this year. They lost more than just the tandem of Harrell and Crabtree. But they always have their system.

    Oh ya I agree with you there. Im a Longhorns fan and they scare the hell out of me still!!

    I agree about tech aswell they arent USC where they can just reload and contend every year. The system will keep them competitive but they wont be in contention. I think the could get blasted in Austin in a couple of weeks, major revenge game for Texas!

    The north really has to step its game up. Since the Big 12 was formed in 96 they have had only four champions. Missouri look interesting I thought they were way down after losing Maclin and Daniel but they fairly stuck it too Illinois! I think they will be a more of a spoiler than a contender though. To me Nebraska look like the team to come out of the north. Pelini seems to be straightening that program out.

    also New ap poll out

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    USC Trojans move up in Coaches and AP? Ohio St Buckeyes drop? Saturday 12 September match-up should be interesting to watch. Anyone want to call the point spread? (I'm going to guess USC by 10)

    Coaches Poll
    Rk Team Points
    1 Florida 1472
    2 Texas 1407
    3 USC 1352 :cool:
    4 Alabama 1299
    5 Penn State 1145
    6 Oklahoma State 1114
    7 Ohio State 1106
    8 Mississippi 1006
    9 LSU 977
    10 California 935

    AP Poll
    Rk Team Points
    1 Florida 1493
    2 Texas 1424
    3 USC 1355 :cool:
    4 Alabama 1331
    5 Oklahoma State 1201
    6 Mississippi 1095
    7 Penn State 1082
    8 Ohio State 985
    9 Brigham Young 984
    10 California 971


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    USC Trojans move up in Coaches and AP? Ohio St Buckeyes drop? Saturday 12 September match-up should be interesting to watch. Anyone want to call the point spread? (I'm going to guess USC by 10)

    Currently USC -7. I think they will cover easily. Any doubts about the new QB will have been assuaged by Navy's ability to run the ball at will. USC should be able to keep it on the ground and wear out Ohio. Expect most of the scoring to come late in the 3rd / early in the 4th.

    My focus is on the big game in the big house this weekend! Both ND and Michigan looked great against weak opposition. If we can just compete upfront and average 3yrds per carry when we run in the first half I think Clausen and the WR's can get it done. Massive game though. If we can win, then the next game home to Michigan St. We could be 3 - 0 travelling to Purdue where a win could open all sorts of exciting possibilities (still unbeaten on October 17! green jersey time!).

    Hopefully, the players aren't like me, and are firmly focused on this Saturday and this Saturday alone. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "More than 105,000 Buckeyes fans are expected to pack Ohio Stadium to see if Ohio State can avenge last season's embarrassing 35-3 loss to the Trojans and restore a bit of Big Ten Conference pride... Much of the crowd's attention, and noise, will be focused on Barkley.":eek:


    Source: http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-usc-football-fyi9-2009sep09,0,3196505.story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Currently USC -7. I think they will cover easily. Any doubts about the new QB will have been assuaged by Navy's ability to run the ball at will. USC should be able to keep it on the ground and wear out Ohio. Expect most of the scoring to come late in the 3rd / early in the 4th.
    Fully in agreement with this. The Buckeyes couldn't stop the run and USC can mix it up better than most. They have a couple of really good running backs, McKnight seems to be no.1 but there are a couple of other seniors who have been impressive over the last two years.
    That close call last week will have meant a lot of heavy defensive work for the Buckeyes but their D line just looks too weak to stand up to the might of the Trojans.
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    My focus is on the big game in the big house this weekend! Both ND and Michigan looked great against weak opposition. If we can just compete upfront and average 3yrds per carry when we run in the first half I think Clausen and the WR's can get it done. Massive game though. If we can win, then the next game home to Michigan St. We could be 3 - 0 travelling to Purdue where a win could open all sorts of exciting possibilities (still unbeaten on October 17! green jersey time!).

    Hopefully, the players aren't like me, and are firmly focused on this Saturday and this Saturday alone. :)
    This is the first real test for the Irish, we need a big win here to make a mark on the polls early. I'm really hoping that we are up to it, Clausen looked great the last day, and Michael Floyd got most of the yards which means we should have some fun this year with Golden Tate maybe getting less attention than he did for most of last year.
    As you say its all about establishing the run early, if we do that we can take this one comfortably imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    USC Trojans move up in Coaches and AP? Ohio St Buckeyes drop? Saturday 12 September match-up should be interesting to watch. Anyone want to call the point spread? (I'm going to guess USC by 10)

    Coaches Poll
    Rk Team Points
    1 Florida 1472
    2 Texas 1407
    3 USC 1352 :cool:
    4 Alabama 1299
    5 Penn State 1145
    6 Oklahoma State 1114
    7 Ohio State 1106
    8 Mississippi 1006
    9 LSU 977
    10 California 935
    20 Notre Dame:cool:
    AP Poll
    Rk Team Points
    1 Florida 1493
    2 Texas 1424
    3 USC 1355 :cool:
    4 Alabama 1331
    5 Oklahoma State 1201
    6 Mississippi 1095
    7 Penn State 1082
    8 Ohio State 985
    9 Brigham Young 984
    10 California 971
    18 Notre Dame :cool:

    I really find it hard to believe that Ohio State dropped so little after that display.
    On the game, I just see that USC OL being far too powerful for the Buckeyes and being pretty much unstoppable. USC's defense is the key and for me its a result something like last year, maybe slightly closer but USC by at least 17.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Who knew that turning a pistol into a popgun would shake down the thunder? Who would've imagined that bucking some in-state Broncos would lead to such a hailing of victors valiant? With more than 1,700 wins combined and the top two winning percentages in history, Notre Dame and Michigan pegged the anticipation meter by beating Nevada and Western Michigan.

    ncf_g_jclausen1_200.jpg
    Jimmy Clausen looked like a superstar versus Nevada.

    You know what? Silly as it seems, that feels just right. It wasn't so much that the Irish and Wolverines won; it was how they won. Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen was razor-sharp and looked like the leader of a precise offensive attack unit -- not just a scattershot collection of a pretty good passer and receivers.

    Michigan looked, well, the way West Virginia used to look. Isn't that why it hired Rich Rodriguez in the first place? The Wolverines have one quarterback who won't tie his shoes and turns broken plays into the best highlight of the first week, and a starter who is buckled up head to toe in Rich Rod's spread option. Denard Robinson and Tate Forcier were the missing links.

    Now, the buildup surrounding this game mostly befits the foes' glorious status in college football.

    That is until one team's hope turns to despair again Saturday. That's the nature of a rivalry game. It's supposed to break your heart when you lose. Both coaches need to win, although I think Charlie Weis needs it a smidgen more than Rodriguez. I know Rodriguez has controversy swirling around him. But if the Irish lose to a Michigan team guided by two freshman quarterbacks in Rodriguez's second year, I suspect the grumbling will be a little more than just audible from South Bend.

    Unlike recent editions that have been marred by blowouts and sloppy play, I expect Saturday's game to be high on the entertainment scale. The past three meetings have been decided by an average of four touchdowns. The Irish and Wolverines are due to play a classic or at least a near classic. Why not Saturday?

    I know the Irish shut down a dangerous dual-threat quarterback in the Wolf Pack's Colin Kaepernick last week, but I think Michigan's first win did wonders for its confidence. I still expect to see Michigan move the ball against the Irish. That's a huge key to me. How well will the Wolverines control the ball against the Irish? If they don't, they'll have trouble.

    This game represents Clausen's next step in his battle to live up to expectations. If he truly deserves mention alongside Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy this season, he must win this game for his team. Period. I have a time-proven theory about quarterbacks: When you throw more touchdown passes than incompletions, you're playing great. Four touchdowns and three incompletions against Nevada means Clausen was awesome. Complex, isn't it?

    Michigan might be without CB Boubacar Cissoko, who had an interception in the opener. Going down the depth chart isn't a comforting way to deal with Michael Floyd and Golden Tate. So watch the pass rush. If Michigan puts heat on Clausen, it'll have a shot at the biggest win of the Rodriguez era. If not, Clausen could lay another plank in the foundation for his, dare I say it, Heisman candidacy. Lou Holtz brought up the topic during the Final Verdict segment of "College Football Final" last week, and the judge issued a continuance. Clausen has the early look of a guy ready for a special season. We'll see during the next couple of weeks.

    Really looking forward to the game now! Saturday evening I am staying in and watching me some football. :) Kickoff will be 20.30 on ESPN America (I buckled and subscribed to it :().


    Clemson and Georgia Tech tonight. Planning to enjoy watching Tech's whopper triple option offense. Can be very exciting when they get rolling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Gonna watch the Yellow Jackets too. And of course the Irish and a couple of others too. I just hope its a one sided affair so I can watch the Steelers/Titans in peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Clemson and Georgia Tech tonight. Planning to enjoy watching Tech's whopper triple option offense. Can be very exciting when they get rolling.

    Ya Dwyer is a beast and if Josh Nesbitt can improve throwing the ball they could make some noise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I just hope its a one sided affair so I can watch the Steelers/Titans in peace.

    looks like your wish has been granted!

    .........................................

    Killer fake field goal for a td by the yellow jacks!! Man Georgia Tech are fun to watch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This has been a destruction. Paul Johnson is a genius. Clemson do look absolutely horrible though it must be said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    We may have spoke too soon here, clemson are making a comeback!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Hynzie wrote: »
    We may have spoke too soon here, clemson are making a comeback!

    What a game in the end. Why Georgia Tech insisted on passing so much in the second half is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Lets go Irish!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,452 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Notre Dame playing well after a rough start. Just looking at the halftime scores and Texas are struggling against Tulane, while the OK State Cowboys are down 24-7 to Houston:eek:. Gators crushed the other Trojans(Troy) and BC Eagles crushed Kent St.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭Hynzie


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Notre Dame playing well after a rough start. Just looking at the halftime scores and Texas are struggling against Tulane, while the OK State Cowboys are down 24-7 to Houston:eek:. Gators crushed the other Trojans(Troy) and BC Eagles crushed Kent St.

    Yeah they are looking good now. good to see they didnt lose the head early after the missed field goal, step out of bounds that prevented the TD and the kick return.

    The Horns sure are making a mess of this Wyoming game! but they are up by 10 now so hopefully they have it under control.


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