Lisbon II - The A&A Thread

lostexpectation

what wasn't highlighted in this campaign was the religious conservatives on the yes side (bertie) who, were promised (by barrosso) that Ireland wouldn't be prosecuted for maintaining the opt out for religious orgs to discriminate in education.

thus impeding proper secular education.

MGLman

Hi All,

I am not an expert on this topic and just wanted to get good crip about what it is and what are the benefits.

Surely, it benefits Ireland and Irish citizens and whole EU. But in terms of the Non-Irish/Non-EU citizens and residents, are there any benefit to them? For instance, will there be less paper works and more efficient services in terms of the immigration issues and travel issues within EU?

Apologies for coming into completely orthognal issues to those are in the thread. However, any good and thoughtful insights about the treaty is much appreciated. Thanks again.

Dades

No

You'd be better adviced posting about the after-effects of Lisbon in the European Union forum.

The thread you've just posted in is kinda flavoured by the forum you're in.

MGLman

Dades wrote: »

You'd be better adviced posting about the after-effects of Lisbon in the European Union forum.

The thread you've just posted in is kinda flavoured by the forum you're in.

Oops, I did not check the forum. Thanks

Dades

No

MGLman wrote: »

Oops, I did not check the forum. Thanks

No probs, g'luck!

robindch

No

Some good news at last from Mr Ganley:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0602/libertas.html

RTE wrote:

Libertas leader Declan Ganley has applied to have the party wound up in Ireland.

Documents lodged with the Companies Registration Office yesterday, show that Mr Ganley has applied for the Libertas Party and the Libertas Foundation to be voluntarily struck off. Both have the same address in Moyne Park in Tuam, Co Galway.

In an application to the CRO, Mr Ganley said both companies had never traded and will not be trading in the future.

PeterIanStaker

No

Excellent news, I hope thats the last we ever hear or see of Sturmbannenfuhrer Ganley.

Dades

No

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Excellent news, I hope thats the last we ever hear or see of Sturmbannenfuhrer Ganley.

Until the referendums. :pac:

PeterIanStaker

No

Dades wrote: »

Until the referendums. :pac:

Why would the American military/industrial complex be interested in blasphemy/rights of the child referenda? I hope he stays in his bunker, white cat Bruce Arnold on lap.

MikeC101

No

I have a feeling Ganley will return.

The Civil Partnership bill could give the impetus to form an unholy alliance of Libertas / Christian Solidarity / Family Solidarity / Youth Defence types - maybe Justin Barrett will reappear.

Wouldn't that be lovely.

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Why would the American military/industrial complex be interested in blasphemy/rights of the child referenda? I hope he stays in his bunker, white cat Bruce Arnold on lap.

Despite the military / industrial complex links (or because of them?) Libertas and Ganley also have links with the Christian fundies - they supported Christian Solidarity (I think) candidates before, the lovely Caroline Simons is fond of a bit of God action.

And I almost forgot, they think the Legatus funboys are a great bunch of lads altogether! (And might even have gotten a few dollars from them, maybe, but they won't deny or confirm nuthin')

PeterIanStaker

No

MikeC101 wrote: »

I have a feeling Ganley will return.

The Civil Partnership bill could give the impetus to form an unholy alliance of Libertas / Christian Solidarity / Family Solidarity / Youth Defence types - maybe Justin Barrett will reappear.

Wouldn't that be lovely.



Despite the military / industrial complex links (or because of them?) Libertas and Ganley also have links with the Christian fundies - they supported Christian Solidarity (I think) candidates before, the lovely Caroline Simons is fond of a bit of God action.

And I almost forgot, they think the Legatus funboys are a great bunch of lads altogether! (And might even have gotten a few dollars from them, maybe, but they won't deny or confirm nuthin')

You forgot Cóir - maybe they could come on board too, paying their staff €1.84 an hour of course!:rolleyes:

Footage from last Libertas conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU

MikeC101

No

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

You forgot Cóir - maybe they could come on board too, paying their staff €1.84 an hour of course!:rolleyes:

So I did! They've probably all been drafted into the EU super army by now anyway.

Think of how good their posters will be this time around!

PeterIanStaker

No

MikeC101 wrote: »

They've probably all been drafted into the EU super army by now anyway.

no they got aborted then brought up by gay couples:D

Sam Vimes

No

Dades wrote: »

Until the referendums. :pac:

Don't you remember? Lisbon means we'll never have another referendum :rolleyes:

Turtwig

No

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Don't you remember? Lisbon means we'll never have another referendum :rolleyes:

Oh thank fuck.:)

ShooterSF

Not going to vote

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Don't you remember? Lisbon means we'll never have another referendum :rolleyes:

Sure when would we find the time Sam what with all of us working 3 or 4 jobs since the economic boom after the yes vote

robindch

No

ShooterSF wrote: »

Sure when would we find the time Sam what with all of us working 3 or 4 jobs since the economic boom after the yes vote

Still and all, it was very nice of the European Central Bank to stump up the cash the government used to bail out the Irish banks last year, eh?

Galvasean

No

So, anyone know who's responsible for those posters in Dublin saying, "Where are all of our Lisbon jobs now?!!?" (conveniently overlooking the €1.84 minimum wage and the automatic draft into the EU superarmy)
Wonder if it's the same people who out up the poster I saw at Vicar St. claiming that the government was 'dumbing us down with innoculations, flouride and chemicals sprayed in the sky'....

Coriolanus

No

Whenever I see a whacked out poster, I just assume it's the Socialists.

Dades

No

Galvasean wrote: »

So, anyone know who's responsible for those posters in Dublin saying, "Where are all of our Lisbon jobs now?!!?" (conveniently overlooking the €1.84 minimum wage and the automatic draft into the EU superarmy)

Well to be fair to the Lisbon detractors - the hospitals are trying to abort our babies. :pac: